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Re: Defeatist Compromising Commentary From Reason Magazine
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 27 Sep '01

27 Sep '01

One-way pagers are a great anonymous way to signal, especially since Web interfaces were offered. With coded messages, originated from public access terminals and disguised as phone numbers, a lot of command and control is practical. At 07:32 PM 9/26/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote: On Wednesday, September 26, 2001, at 06:15 PM, Nilsphone(a)aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2001-09-26 17:21 Pacific Daylight Time, > freematt(a)coil.com writes: > > > "Between Cato arguing for victim disarmament > and Reason arguing that "right to liberty is preceded by the right to > life," I say we just kill them all and let Rand sort them out." If > you find Ms. Young's comments against encryption disturbing please > write to Nick Gillespie <gillespie(a)reason.com> Editor-in-Chief of > Reason Magazine and David Nott <davidn(a)reason.org> President, Reason > Foundation.] > > > > I think Reason got it wrong. Crypto technology might simplify a > terrorist's life a little, that is all. If there are no secure channels, > terrorists can meet in person. The "GO" order can be done in the clear, > "lets go" needs no encryption. Alternatively, low volume comm > between people who know each other, and can meet beforehand, > can easily be done using one time pad, which are drop dead easy to > use, foolproof (as long as you dont lose or re-use them) etc, but not > suitable for mass communication. I can write a one-time-pad program > in minutes that does it all for you. You need a source for the pads, > GM-tubes > are best, rooms full of lava lamps and a digital camera have been used. > Not very hard, can be set up at a central location, once, and then the > pads > distributed by hand. (This latter is a must and the catch in mass > communications.) > > Nils Andersson > (long time Reason subscriber, from the beginning in the 70-s) > They fucking DID meet in person! There is not one iota, not one shred, of evidence that Atta and and his 20 or so co-conspirators used "crypto" in any form! (Including image file steganography, the form I invented in 1989-90 and which Kevin Kelly profiled in his book "Out of Control," based on interviews in 1992. I mention this because several journalists have been writing b.s stories aoubt Osama using "steganography, files hidden in images.' B.S.) And even had Atta and Company used crypto, which there is no evidence whatsoever of, this would be no more justification for "key escrow" or "backdoors" than the use of curtains by Al Capone to hide his activities was grounds for "transparency escrow" modes in curtains or for banning sealed envelopes. Most crime takes place out of sight of law enforcement. So? Atta and his co-conspirators met in apartments, motel rooms, and sent overnight letters. Unless the bozos at Reason are arguing for opening of all mail, for microphones in motel rooms, for "1984" levels of apartment surveillance, there is nothing that could have been done to stop the planning. This is all just very basic stuff, written about by some of us in the mid-80s. That so many journalists are just now "discovering" the crypto issue is symptomatic of our times.

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Re: Microsoft the new Smith & Wesson?
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 27 Sep '01

27 Sep '01

Damn, I wonder if someone on the launch team will leak a copy? ----- Original Message ----- >> I can't belive that some hungry lawyer hasn't filed a case >> accusing Microsoft, though their Flight Simulator software, of >> aiding and abetting the terrorists. Is it true they pulled >> their latest version which could fly into skyscrapers? Might >> become a ghastly collector's item. > >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010917/tc/attacks_microsoft_2.html > > >Monday September 17 7:43 PM ET >Microsoft Delays Flying Game Launch > >REDMOND, Wash. (AP) - Microsoft Corp. plans to delay the launch of a new >version of Flight Simulator, its popular computer game that allows players >to fly airplanes over New York City and other metropolitan areas, because >of last week's terrorist attacks. > >``It's just an inappropriate time to release the product,'' Microsoft >spokesman Matt Pilla said Monday from the company's Redmond headquarters. > >No new launch date has been set for Flight Simulator 2002, which was >originally due out in October. > >In existing versions of Flight Simulator, players can pilot aircraft >ranging from gliders to jetliners over much of the world, with detailed >scenery of airports and cities, including New York and the World Trade >Center towers. Should an aircraft strike a building or other structure, >the program shows the plane has crashed, but the buildings do not blow up. > >Microsoft announced Friday it would remove depictions of the World Trade >Center's twin towers from the new version. > >The company also will put out a software patch that allows people to >remove the towers from existing versions of the game (...)

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27 Sep '01

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Re: How ID Cards might be made de facto mandatory, but not de jure mandatory
by Randy 26 Sep '01

26 Sep '01

-----Original Message----- From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com <cypherpunks(a)lne.com> Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 10:52 PM Subject: How ID Cards might be made de facto mandatory, but not de jure mandatory >On Wednesday, September 19, 2001, at 07:00 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: > >> I recall there being fairly high, if not supreme, court >> decisions in the past confirming that you never have to >> identify yourself to the police. Other than when driving a >> car, of course, as that's a "privilege" not a right. So how >> are they going to force these mandatory ID cards on people? >> > If a LEO thinks you've commited a crime, they can bust you, and ultimately have to charge you with something, or let you go. If, OTOH, you're simply regarded as a whacko, you can be institutionalized, perhaps forever. Try convincing a LEO that a) you're not crazed, and b) you don't have to tell him/her your name. Seeya. >(When I say "will require" I mean that other legisla tion will require >that the libraries, companies, rental agencies, etc. inspect them. Those >who don't have them simply won't be able to rent cars, use libraries, >get driver's licenses, cash checks, etc.) So the assholes simply move on to sleeping on the courthouse steps, paying cash, buying throwaway cell phones from the local convenience store, and stealing cars. They stole whole fucking airplanes full of humans; they'd likely not have a moral problem stealing a car or paying a crack fiend to do it in their stead. WTF, if you're going to DIE for the cause, who needs a hotel room? If we are to believe the news-holes, alot of the folks behind this used-to-be/are/will be sleeping in caves anyway. > >1. Libraries will require the card before giving access to public >terminals (or perhaps even to books...) > >2. Hotels, airlines, car rental and storage locker companies will >require them. > >3. States will require driver's licenses to be cross-linked with these >ID cards. > >4. Gun purchases, ammunition purchases, hunting licenses, fishing >licenses, etc. cross-linked. > >5. Use the banking system or money order/check-cashing systems in any >way. Including filing taxes. > >...and so on. > >It's unlikely that these ID cards will be demanded on the street >("Papers, please!"). But the cards can be mandated for nearly every >other aspect of economic life. Sort of sounds like the "final solution to the homeless question".... > >The Supreme Court will not have to even rule on these cross-linkings. > >It should be fine for someone to _not_ have such an ID card, provided he >does not want to rent or buy a car, get a driver's license, buy >ammunition, check into a hotel, rent a mailbox, open a bank account, >cash a check, or file tax forms. > >None of them are cases where the state, ostensibly, is requiring names >to be attached to writings or pamphlets. Nor are they cases where >internal movement requires a passport. (These are some of the reasons >past courts have thrown out mandatory identification laws.) Properly >done, a cop will never have to demand the ID card, so the issue of it >being mandatory becomes untested in courts (I'm speculating a bit >here...). Well, yeah, "properly done", in the eyes of some, would probably allow the cop to scan your smart-card from fifty yards. No "felony stop" tactics req'd. > >I'm not endorsing these moves, of course, just speculating on how the >courts may acquiesce to such an ID card. Don't mistake this post as having disagreed with you in any way.....not at all. Just adding my U$D.02 > >And, of course, another 911-like event could make the Supreme Court >reverse itself.\ There's no shortage of people that hate our guts and are willing to die for the cause.........a long time after we're all dead and gone people will be causing us the maximum grief that they can at home, abroad, and probably low-earth-orbit and beyond, as technology allows. If all they could cause us was nail-fungus or pre-mature greying of our hairs, that is what they would do. Such is not the case. > > >--Tim May > Randy

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26 Sep '01

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Free wireless networking movement gathers speed
by Steve Schear 26 Sep '01

26 Sep '01

[As has been mentioned before, neighborhood networks could offer one element of an anonymous ISP for secure email, web access and VoIP telephony. Have any list members established access points?] Free wireless networking movement gathers speed By Ephraim Schwartz and Mark Jones September 26, 2001 12:03 pm PT A GRASSROOTS EFFORT to deploy free wireless networking access zones threatens to undermine the multibillion-dollar campaigns of wireless network vendors preparing to offer state-of-the-art 3G (third-generation) wireless services in major metropolitan areas. http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/09/26/010926hnfreewireless.xml?…

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ACTION: SUCCESS! Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001
by Black Unicorn 26 Sep '01

26 Sep '01

The hearing for markup of the Anti Terrorism Act of 2001 has been cancelled by direction of the Chairman and has not been rescheduled at this time.

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RE: Preparedness
by dmolnar 26 Sep '01

26 Sep '01

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: > I don't know if David is posting from Cambridge/Boston, but on the 15th > I drove through the Callahan tunnel (major road tunnel under the harbor, > and main route to Boston airport). No stops, no noticable extra security. Oh! I'm sorry for not making that clear. I am posting from NYC. Despite the Harvard e-mail address, I am in NYC and will be here for the year. -David

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Sorry to see you go.
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26 Sep '01

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