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Re: America needs therapy
by Harmon Seaver 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

Eugene Leitl wrote: > On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > > Not true at all. Biodiesel is being marketed in the US today at > > competitive prices, and obviously, like anything else, economies of > > scale would bring down that price. Ethanol is another one. Brazil run > > Biodiesel and bioethanol are horribly inefficient as far as conversion of > solar energy and agricultural area is concerned. Large scale agriculture > is not exactly environmentally neutral. They're extreme niche or gimmick > fuels at best. Where do you get that from? Are you saying that farmers aren't growing canola oil at a profit? Farmers are also growing corn and that corn is turned into ethanol at a profit. http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol.html > Ethanol is a highly efficient fuel. A study by > the Institute of Local Self-Reliance in the > US found that using the best farming and > production methods, "the amount of energy > contained in a gallon of ethanol is more than > twice the energy used to grow the corn and > convert it to ethanol". > > The US Department of Agriculture says > each BTU (British Thermal Unit, an energy > measure) used to produce a BTU of > gasoline could be used to produce 8 BTUs > of ethanol. > > The non-profit American Coalition for > Ethanol says ethanol production is > "extremely energy efficient", with a positive > energy balance of 125%, compared to 85% > for gasoline, making ethanol production "by > far the most efficient method of producing > liquid transportation fuels". > > If you are refering to the paper done by Pimental, that study was seriously flawed (so much so that one might think it was paid for by big oil) and thoroughly debunked. See: http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_energy.html -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 hseaver(a)cybershamanix.com http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html

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Re: Brinworld: citizens with speed-radar
by Nomen Nescio 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

> According to collected data, the average speed in 30 mph zones ranged > from 35.5 to 46 mph. In the 35 mph zones, the average speed was about 43 > mph. The highest speed, clocked by Colonial Estates East Citizens on > Patrol group, was 62 mph in a 30 mph zone. Too bad this wasn't California. According to that states laws, if a survey shows that average driver speeds are substantially higher than the posted speed limit, the speed limit must be raised. It would have been a sweet irony if these busybodies had ended up with 60 MPH posted speed limits on their residential streets.

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Brinworld: citizens with speed-radar
by Khoder bin Hakkin 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2001/10/01/arlnews/fw010408-… ARLINGTON - Alice Pelfrey has taken aim at speeders in her neighborhood, and her efforts have really slowed them down. Armed with a police radar gun and a clipboard, Pelfrey and other Plaza Heights Citizens on Patrol members have been tracking violators as part of an Arlington Police Department pilot program designed to reduce speeding violations in neighborhoods. "As long as we were doing it, they were slowed down and they stayed slowed down for a while," Pelfrey said. "If we keep it up, they're going to get the idea that we're set up and that somebody is going to be watching." The East Arlington Police Station test program involving Plaza Heights, Colonial Estates and Valley View Citizens on Patrol groups ended this month. Modeled after an Arlington County, Va., program, resident groups are loaned radar guns and trained to log the speeds and license plate numbers of violators in their neighborhoods. The data helps the Police Department determine where more patrol officers or speed limit signs are needed, Lt. Carolyn Allen said. The program is expected to become citywide next year, she said. "The citizens have told us their concerns about traffic and speeding," Allen said. "This is a way for them to get involved in their own neighborhoods and do something about it." The groups, clearly identified as speed monitors with signs and jackets, set up in areas approved by the department. The information collected is turned in to the Police Department, which then mails warning letters to those caught stating the speed, date and location of the violations. During the six neighborhood monitoring operations, the department notified 125 people. "More than likely, once they get a letter they're going to think twice about coming down this street speeding because they're not going to know whether we're there or not," Pelfrey said. Although violators in the test program received only warnings, Allen said she plans to station plainclothes police officers with the groups so that speeding violators can be stopped and issued citations. According to collected data, the average speed in 30 mph zones ranged from 35.5 to 46 mph. In the 35 mph zones, the average speed was about 43 mph. The highest speed, clocked by Colonial Estates East Citizens on Patrol group, was 62 mph in a 30 mph zone. "People came up and said they were really glad to see us," said Linda White, a Colonial Estates group coordinator. "In the beginning, we expected people to be negative, and that really hasn't happened." Pelfrey said her group only had one negative experience - when a person drove by and gave members an obscene hand gesture. But most of the feedback was positive, she said. "We had a lot of people in the neighborhood that waved and honked their horn," Pelfrey said. "A lot of people said 'Go for it. Set up in our yard if you want to.' "

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by Juan Carlos 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

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Re: Lesson from WTC: Question Authority
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

On 9-11 I was awake at 5:30 AM PST reading the paper and watching CNN. Predictably I was glued to the news until past noon. When I finally made it into work I was here about an hour or two when I was told that someone had phoned in a bomb threat. The official advice from the PD was essentially "you can stay in the building if you want to." I stayed just long enough to let everyone know. The consensus was exactly this - "fuck it, we're outta here." I couldn't think of a single reason to take a chance even if it was most likely just some goofball over at the insurance company who felt he should have the day off like everyone in the WTC. I think everyone is so used to a nice, safe, cushy existence that crises are not recognized and urgency is seen as foolish. Mike

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by info＠giganetstore.com 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

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Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd)
by Subcommander Bob 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

At 04:08 PM 9/30/01 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: >> >> This is IMHO naive. Have you ever been in a brawl? > >Have you ever been in a brawl where one side (or both) has friends? > Balkans, just before WWI. Poison gas followed that one (too).

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Re: America needs therapy
by Jim Windle 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:33:41 Declan McCullagh wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 09:55:34AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: >> Besides which, the true cost of gasoline at the pump would be >> $10-15 @ gallon without all the gov't subsidies to the oil industry. > >I think this canard has been debunked on the list in the last week. > One more bit of debunking. According to the EIA the US uses on average over 8 million barrels of gasoline a day. The petroleum industry defines a barrel as 42 gallons. That's 336 million gallons a day or 123 billion gallons a year. If each gallon is subsidized by $10+ per barrel, the annual sudsidy from the government to the oil industry would be, at a minimum, $1.23 trillion a year. Total GDP in 2000 was only $9.2 trillion. This is non-sense. Or is this subsidy desquised as the defense budget, social security payments and service on the national debt? Jim Windle Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

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National Emergency Technology Guard (NET Guard) proposal
by auto301094＠hushmail.com 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- http://wyden.senate.gov/9262001%20Tech%20Corps%20Statement.htm Remarks of Senator Ron Wyden to the United States Senate Proposing a National Emergency Technology Guard (NET Guard) Senator Wyden chairs the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Science, Technology and Space. "I am interested in discussing with the Senate a proposition that I think is important in light of the tragic events that unfolded on September 11, 2001. As all of us understand now, the communications infrastructure of New York, Washington, DC, and indeed the whole country, was severely challenged. "Wireless telephone networks were severely overloaded and crashed. Wireless Internet access was suspended. Telephone lines were cut, and communications, for people literally in communities around the East Coast of the United States, came to a standstill. Even the immediate communication needs of rescue workers, victims, families and aid groups were a struggle to coordinate. Survivors often could not let family members know they were safe. Families of victims had no immediate central clearinghouse to find information or file missing persons reports. "Hospitals were inundated with searches, requests for help and offers of aid, but no way to match them to each other. Even some of our nation's premier aid organizations, who have done such a marvelous job helping rescue workers, survivors and victims' families, faced immediate and severe challenges with respect to information technology infrastructure. The New York Times drew a conclusion that I strongly agree with: There need to be new ways to set up emergency information systems. "That's what I'd like to propose. What this country needs is essentially a technology equivalent of the National Guard: a National Emergency Technology Guard - NET Guard - that in times of crisis would be in a position to mobilize our nation's information technology, or IT, community to action quickly, just as the National Guard is ready to move during emergencies. "In our leading technology companies in this nation, there are the brains and the equipment to put in place this NET Guard, that could be deployed across this country when we face tragedies like we saw in New York City. A national volunteer organization of trained and well-coordinated units of IT professionals from our leading technology companies ought to be in a position to stand ready with designated computer equipment, satellite dishes, wireless communicators and other equipment to quickly recreate and repair compromised communications and technology infrastructures. "With Congressional support, the leaders of our nation's technology companies could organize themselves, their employees, and their resources for this purpose. Medium and small-sized businesses would be able to contribute once a national framework was put in place. The resources from the federal level need not be extensive; people could be designated from existing human resource pools at major and medium sized firms and these IT professionals would be trained to perform specific tasks in the event of an emergency. "I intend to use the Subcommittee that I chair to initiate a dialogue among Congressional, corporate, military and non-profit leaders to begin a new effort to mobilize information technology in times of crisis. As we seek to prevent future disasters, I believe the technology professionals of this nation, like most Americans, want to use their skills, their equipment, and their talents to this call and do their part. I propose we give leading information technology professionals a chance to use their ingenuity and creativity to insure greater safety and stability for our communities and our citizens in the coming days." --- http://wyden.senate.gov/9262001%20Tech%20Corps.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wl8EARECAB8FAju4uv8YHGF1dG8zMDEwOTRAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEKadvsVlUK4P S04AoK+74XyVDmzbwbJheAQv0mEdlutUAKCgPGCNGrPq9jjNk3R75NpiDSAlSA== =hdsa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Operation Lingering Pain (Re: [FREE] stratfor (fwd))
by Subcommander Bob 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

>> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:25:08AM -0700, David Honig wrote: >> > Yes. Though these days they have Emergency Powers for everything, >> > and chronic, continually extended 'Emergencies'. >> >> I've always enjoyed the regular declarations of emergencies required >> to keep the encryption export control regime active. >> >> If an emergency exists for decades, can it still be properly called one? > >I guess so, if it's still "emerging." A difficult birth, perhaps. Heh, if labor takes too long you go in for a Caesarian. Damn, those Romans showing up again... Maybe that's what they mean by a "surgical strike"... ------- Bluffs will be published if comical but otherwise ignored. -JY

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