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9/11 Debacle Spurs Blind Trust in Government
by Jim Bovard 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

Matt: Thought you might get a laugh out of the following piece. FreeMatt's Alerts have been probably the finest source of news & ideas I have seen since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. You have been putting out great stuff! take it easy, Jim Investor's Business Daily October 2, 2001 Government Trust Grows Despite Its Inability to Protect by JAMES BOVARD Like a phoenix rising from the ashes, Americans' trust in government is soaring after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The number of people who trust the government to do the right thing has doubled since last year, and now is more than three times higher than in 1994. According to a Washington Post poll released on Sept. 27, 64% of Americans now "trust the government in Washington to do what is right" either "just about always" or "most of the time." Ronald Brownstein, a Los Angeles Times columnist, declared on Sept. 19: "At the moment the first fireball seared the crystalline Manhattan sky last week, the entire impulse to distrust government that has become so central to U.S. politics seemed instantly anachronistic." Brownstein's headline - "The Government, Once Scorned, Becomes Savior" - captured much of the establishment media's response to the attacks. It is puzzling that trust in government would soar after the biggest intelligence/law enforcement failure since the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. At least in the first weeks after the attack, the federal government's prestige appears higher than at any time since the start of the Vietnam War. The Post poll also revealed that the disastrous attacks of Sept. 11 greatly increased Americans' confidence that government will protect them against terrorists. From 1995 through 1997, the results consistently showed that only between 35% and 37% of Americans had "a great deal" or "a good amount" of confidence that the feds would deter domestic attacks by terrorists. In hindsight, the public was far more prescient than were the Washington policy-makers who chose not to make defending against such attacks a high priority. In the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks, confidence in government's ability to deter terrorist attacks has soared - clocking in at 66%, almost double the percentage in the most recent previous Washington Post poll on this question in June 1997. The bigger the catastrophe, the more credulous many people seem to become. The worse government failed to protect people in the past, the more certain most people become that government will protect them in the future. Prominent liberals are capitalizing on the new mood to call for razing the restraints on government power. Wall Street Journal columnist Al Hunt says it's "time to declare a moratorium on government-bashing.... For the foreseeable future, the federal government is going to invest or spend more, regulate more and exercise more control over our lives," he rejoices. "There is no real debate over expansion (of government power) in general." Washington Post columnist Jim Hoagland snipped, "Ideologues on the right saw government as an evil to be rolled back." In a breathtaking leap of logic, he reasons: "The terror assaults on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon ... should profoundly shake the less-is-more philosophy that was the driving force for the tax-cut politics of Bush and conservative Republicans." But there is no evidence that Osama bin Laden targeted the U.S. because of ire over George Bush's proposal to reduce the estate tax. Hoagland's effort is reminiscent of liberal efforts after the assassination of John F. Kennedy to paint right-wingers everywhere as unindicted co-conspirators in Kennedy's killing. It is difficult to understand how the failures of the CIA, the FBI, and the Federal Aviation Administration could generate a blank check for all other federal agencies to exert more control over 270 million Americans. The success of the disastrous attacks of Sept. 11 were due far more to gross negligence and a shortage of competence than to a shortage of power. The federal government needs sufficient power to protect Americans against terrorist attacks and to harshly punish the perpetrators of the recent attacks. But such power shouldn't place a golden crown on the head of every would-be bureaucratic dictator, from the lowest village zoning enforcer to the most deluded federal agency chieftain. The blind glorification of government, now popular, puts almost all liberties at grave risk. At least for the time being, people have lost any interest in government's batting average - either for actually protecting citizens or for abusing power. The best hope for the survival and defense of liberty is that enough Americans will recall the type of history lessons that public schools never teach. At this time of national crisis, we must forget neither our political heritage nor the inherent limits of any governmental machinery. Government has a vital role in defending Americans from deadly foreign threats. But nothing that happened on Sept. 11 or since changed the fundamental nature of American government. James Bovard is the author of "Feeling Your Pain: The Explosion & Abuse of Government Power in the Clinton-Gore Years"(St. Martin's Press, 2000) and a policy advisor to the Future of Freedom Foundation. ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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Re: STILL OFF TOPIC: Re: America needs therapy
by Steve Schear 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

At 01:14 PM 10/2/2001 +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote: >On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Steve Schear wrote: > > > At 01:25 PM 10/1/2001 -0400, James B. DiGriz wrote: > > >Declan McCullagh wrote: > > >A far more productive application of corporate welfare would be if that > > >money were spent on engineering research and development of geosynchronous > > >solar power microwave relays, fusion and advanced fission reactors, > >GEO is lousy: it's too far away, Apparently the engineers for these project differ with you. >and it's packed already. GEO is only packed for communications applications. Physically, most of it is very sparsely populated. >Newer concepts >assume LEO with active microwave focus tracking of the rectenna ground >array with phased array antennas integrated into the solar array. You have >to have sufficient amounts of hardware in the sky for continuous line of >sight presence. Active focus and tracking, via a LED, is part of the GEO project as well. steve

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Re: Brinworld: citizens with speed-radar
by An Metet 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

Nomen wrote: >> >> According to collected data, the average speed in 30 mph zones ranged >> from 35.5 to 46 mph. In the 35 mph zones, the average speed was about 43 >> mph. The highest speed, clocked by Colonial Estates East Citizens on >> Patrol group, was 62 mph in a 30 mph zone. > > Too bad this wasn't California. According to that states laws, if a > survey shows that average driver speeds are substantially higher than > the posted speed limit, the speed limit must be raised. It would have > been a sweet irony if these busybodies had ended up with 60 MPH posted > speed limits on their residential streets. And if that had been the response in my neighborhood, this busybody would promptly start salting the roadway with vast numbers of 1" roofing nails. Nobody has to put up with that bullshit.

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Customs wants lists of all air passengers, foreign & domestic.
by Trei, Peter 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

"Obtaining information on passengers traveling within the United States also could be helpful to law enforcement." - Robert Bonner Remember, as far as Big Brother is concerned, the end justifies the means.... This scheme would be greatly facilitated by Gephardt & Ellison's proposed ID card/internal passport. Peter Trei ----------------------------------- http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011002/us/attacks_customs_2.html Tuesday October 2 3:33 AM ET Customs Wants Lists of Passengers By JEANNINE AVERSA, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - Airlines should be required to turn over their advance lists of passengers to screen for possible terrorists, the new Customs Service commissioner says. Robert Bonner, in an interview with The Associated Press, said Monday he first wants the passenger information for all international flights headed for the United States. Then, he said, Congress should consider requiring that such information be turned over for domestic flights as well. The Customs Service has access to about 85 percent of international flight passenger information under a voluntary program with the airlines. It has no information on domestic flights. ``I believe that it would be extremely valuable if there is a requirement that the airlines provide that information to Customs, to feed it into our data base and thereby identify potential terrorists or other suspects who make an attempt to enter the U.S.,'' Bonner said. [...] On air travel, the agency has received information voluntarily from airlines since 1988 on international air passengers, including names, birth dates, nationality and travel document numbers. The information is collected at the time of departure and transmitted to Customs while flights are en route to the United States. Ninety-five air carriers and two governments - Australia's and New Zealand's - transmit data on international soon-to-arrive air passengers to a Customs facility in Virginia. Air carriers from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Pakistan and Egypt are among those that don't participate, Customs spokesman Dennis Murphy said. To force airlines to give international passenger information to Customs may require congressional action. ``For a foreign airline that would be unwilling to provide the information, we should simply deny the right to land in the United States,'' Bonner suggested. [...] Obtaining information on passengers traveling within the United States also could be helpful to law enforcement, he said.

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Re: SF development (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 16:30:17 -0400 From: Kirk Reiser <kirk(a)braille.uwo.ca> To: debug(a)dk2net.dk Cc: speak-freely(a)fourmilab.ch Subject: Re: SF development I don't know what happened to Brian however as far as I know John Walker is still lurking. Development is anything but halted. Ron Bessem has a mixing version of the windows speak freely and Jonnas and I have a unix/linux version in cvs. Changes have not been happening quickly recently but that is because we are both busy on other projects. You are of course welcome to get involved and help with the development. There's plenty of room for everyone. cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@bumpy.braille.uwo.ca:/usr/src/CVS login password: please cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@bumpy.braille.uwo.ca:/usr/src/CVS co speak_freely (unix/linux) or win_sf for windows) Kirk * * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send E-mail containing the word "unsubscribe" in the message body (*not* as the Subject) to speak-freely-request(a)fourmilab.ch

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Encryption in Microsoft Word Document
by Sanjay Verma 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

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Invitation to join the Anti_Immigration group
by Anti_Immigration moderator 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

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$995 R/T Vehicle Tracking System
by Mike Durkee 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

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