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[BIOWAR] 10/15: Anthrax, White Powder (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:52:07 -0400 From: ds2000 <ds2000(a)mediaone.net> To: Biowar <biowar(a)topica.com> Subject: [BIOWAR] 10/15: Anthrax, White Powder Sen. Daschle Letter Contained Anthrax http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011015/ts/attacks_anthrax_congress_20.html NBC Anchor Says He May Have Been Exposed to Anthrax http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20011015/re/attack_anthrax_brokaw_dc_1.ht… Envelopes with powder Sent to UN Test Negative http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011015/hl/anthrax_11.html Canada Parliament Partly Closed After powder Scare http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011015/hl/powderscare_1.html Suspicious powder Found in Germany http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011015/wl/germany_schroeder_s_office_2.ht… Anthrax Scare Grounds Ohio Jet http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011015/us/anthrax_scare_plane_1.html U.S. Passenger Jet Detained After Powder Found http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011015/ts/airlines_northwest_dc_1.html N.J. Postal Workers Get Anthrax Test http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20011015/aponline151932_000.h… Suspicious Letter Brings Crews to SF City Hall http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/kpix/20011015/lo/1518_1.html Anthrax scare closes Toronto post office; White powder fell from advertsing bundle http://www.canada.com/ottawa/story.asp?id={33F3CFEA-6D9F-4AE8-B5F5-D0BED2ED… Israeli Police Examine powder Found on El Al Plane http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/Living/reuters20011015_397.html Swiss Drug Co. Worker Gets Letter with powder http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/Living/reuters20011015_288.html -- Dan S Post to: biowar(a)topica.com. Unsubscribe to: biowar-unsubscribe(a)topica.com. List info: www.topica.com/lists/biowar ==^================================================================ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8Q0W.a9I0on Or send an email To: biowar-unsubscribe(a)topica.com This email was sent to: Eugene.Leitl(a)lrz.uni-muenchen.de T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================

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16 Oct '01

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OT: NBC Lists?
by Nomen Nescio 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

I'm interested in subscribing to lists that deal with NBC warfare in a terrorist context. I'm interested more in information than uninformed discussion. Any suggestions would appreciated.

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mirror volunteers needed
by Nomen Nescio 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

To mirror what?

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Re: Who represents the detained? Nobody...
by Incognito Innominatus 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote: > Get a clue. The issue is not "get to see Mommy." [...] > -Tim Ma Hhmmm.

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Canada slaughters civil rights
by Meyer Wolfsheim 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

It's convenient that ZKS dropped Freedom from it's product line, nicely dodging the issue of "harboring terrorists." Hrmm. Tim's been saying this for quite a while, and it's only going to get worse. -MW- http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/americas/10/15/rec.attack.canada.reut/index.h… OTTAWA, Oct 15 (Reuters) -- Canada unveiled a sweeping security bill on Monday to ban fund-raising by terrorist groups, widen wiretapping authority and allow police to make preventive arrests of people they think will engage in terrorism. [...] McLellan acknowledged that toughening sentencing for terrorists, as this bill would do, was unlikely to deter militants who are willing to commit suicide, like the hijackers of the airliners involved in the September 11 attacks. But she said for that reason other measures in the bill were needed, such as the ability to arrest potential assailants ahead of time, to force people to testify before judges at investigative hearings and to intercept communications. [...] One new feature is an expansion of the role of the secretive Communications Security Establishment, which operates under the Defence Department, in monitoring phone calls and e-mails from abroad. [...] "Now, having woken up, they (the Liberals) realize the very grave situation," the Alliance's Vic Toews told Parliament. [...] The Canadian bill would also make it an offense to harbor a terrorist, as in the U.S. legislation, and tighten hate crime provisions to eliminate online "hate propaganda" and create a new offense of mischief against places of worship. [...] In the run-up to Monday's introduction, civil liberties groups and lawyer organizations had said McLellan was impinging too much on individual freedoms. But she said that in any court challenges the government would rely on a provision in the constitution that allows the government to provide "reasonable limits" on rights as needed for a free and democratic society.

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15 Oct '01

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Re: Who represents the detained? Nobody...
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 15 Oct '01

15 Oct '01

At 06:02 PM 10/15/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote: >"What would you think if _you_ were seized in a pre-dawn raid, held without charges, never allowed to confront evidence, not allowed to contact the attorney of your choice, cut off from communications with your family and friends, and held in jail for several weeks or more?" >I know I'd be out for blood, McVeigh-style. >My rough figure of merit is that for every _day_ that I am held unjustly, a member of the forces which held me must die. >If this means killing an office building of them for unjustly holding me for 30 days, so be it. Indeed. If only 1 of 10 were successful in taking such measures it would quickly make such incarcirations a career limiting move for LE.

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Re: Missing details on Afghanistan: Natural Gas (fwd)
by Tim May 15 Oct '01

15 Oct '01

On Sunday, October 14, 2001, at 04:12 AM, Eugene Leitl wrote: > -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a> > ______________________________________________________________ > ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 > 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: 13 Oct 2001 14:29:45 -0400 > From: Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym(a)canada.com> > To: fork <fork(a)xent.com> > Subject: Missing details on Afghanistan: Natural Gas > > > Something I haven't seen appear on this list before but which may > or may not be significant: > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/afghan.html > > "Afghanistan's significance from an energy standpoint stems from its > geographical position as a potential transit route for oil and > natural gas exports from Central Asia to the Arabian Sea. This > potential includes the possible construction of oil and natural gas > export pipelines through Afghanistan, which was under serious > consideration in the mid-1990s. The idea has since been undermined > by Afghanistan's instability. > The writer above may not "seen this appear," but it's a basic tenet of Afghan history, going back decades, centuries, and millennia. The Silk Route passed through Afghanistan, the British tried to gain access and battled the Russians in what is usually dubbed "The Great Game." The Russians wanted a warm water port. Daniel Yergin's book on the oil business some years back explained in great detail how the discovery of huge oil and gas fields in Central Asia early in the 20th century highlighted the issue of where to put a pipeline to a seaport. South through Uzbekistan and over the Khyber Pass into Pakistan and then down through the desert to the Arabian Sea was one conceived route. Another was west across Turkmenistan to Turkey to the Med was another. (For those who get their history from James Bond movies, this was covered in the last Bond movie, where the French uberbabe Sophie Marceau played a Central Asian oil magnate. Scenes were shot in Tashkent.) So, this is well-trod ground. --Tim May

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re: Who represents the detained? Nobody...
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 15 Oct '01

15 Oct '01

>5000 people went through a 1000-degree meat grinder on 9/11 without an opportunity for any due process, and don't fucking forget it. > The ghost of Due Process hovers above the funeral pyre where her entire sisterhood burned, drifting between the wafting billows of rancid smoke, and I ask myself: What is to be done? Target those who promised to protect us but decided that their careers, profits and politics came first. It isn't very hard to create a long list from newspaper clippings over the past month. Some of these are the same people looking for or receiving government handouts. Unless significant retribution is taken against them it sends the clear message that its OK to sell out your fellow citizens. Its clear none will ever stand trial as our political legal process almost never holds anyone responsible for what they don't do (even when its their sworn duty) only what they do. Unless many of these vermin switch cells with the, mostly, unfortunates held for victimless crimes nothing will ever change.

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