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Ohio Connection: FBI and CIA Suspect Domestic Extremists
by Matthew Gaylor 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

[Note from Matthew Gaylor: I hope this doesn't turn out like the FBI's botched accusations that Richard Jewel was the Atlanta Olympics bomber, a charge that was completely false. With the absence of other suspects I suppose it's natural for the Feds to trot out the usual suspects. Pravda had on October 18th all ready pointed out that the Center for Disease Control re-released a 1999 report authored by Jessica Stern of the Council of Foreign Relations, stating that most anthrax threats in the United States are linked to "far-right militia" organizations... But no US militia group is known to posses the refined, military form of anthrax being used against the US media and government, and most US militia groups are more concerned with defending themselves against anthrax than spreading it in such a way that their families and communities might be affected <http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2001/10/18/18529.html>. Of special interest in this article is the mentioning of Larry Wayne Harris, an Ohio microbiologist and former member of the Aryan Nations. For a photo of Harris go to <http://www.lasvegassun.com/dossier/crime/bio/harris.html>. Being from central Ohio just like Harris I've seen him on a few occasions at local events. I did make it a point not to engage him in conversation as I considered him a racist nut. On one particular occasion at a gun and preparedness show in Columbus, Ohio sponsored by the Peoples Rights Organization, an Ohio gun and civil rights group,<http://www.peoplesrights.org/> just before Y2K, Harris had a table and display selling his tapes and books on biological warfare. On his table he had a device for the spraying of biological agents such as Anthrax. I examined the machine which looked like a stainless steel tube, like a coffee dispenser with a nozzle and valves. The show had a prohibition in their rules about "weapons of mass destruction" and Harris was asked to leave. As I remember a Franklin County Sheriff escorted Harris off the premises. I don't think he was arrested.] <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59509-2001Oct26.html> FBI and CIA Suspect Domestic Extremists Officials Doubt Any Links to Bin Laden By Bob Woodward and Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writers Saturday, October 27, 2001; Page A01 Top FBI and CIA officials believe that the anthrax attacks on Washington, New York and Florida are likely the work of one or more extremists in the United States who are probably not connected to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda terrorist organization, government officials said yesterday. Senior officials also are increasingly concerned that the bioterrorism is diverting public attention from the larger threat posed by bin Laden and his network, who are believed to be planning a second wave of attacks against U.S. interests here or abroad that could come at any time, officials said. None of the 60 to 80 threat reports gathered daily by U.S. intelligence agencies has connected the envelopes containing anthrax spores to al Qaeda or other known organized terrorist groups, and the evidence gleaned from the spore samples so far provides no solid link to a foreign government or laboratory, several officials said. "Everything seems to lean toward a domestic source," one senior official said. "Nothing seems to fit with an overseas terrorist type operation." The FBI and U.S. Postal Inspection Service are considering a wide range of domestic possibilities, including associates of right-wing hate groups and U.S. residents sympathetic to the causes of Islamic extremists. But investigators have no clear suspects, and are not even certain whether there are other undetected letters that contained the deadly microbe. But federal health officials said yesterday that a new case of pulmonary anthrax in a man who worked at a State Department mail facility in Northern Virginia has persuaded them that more than one contaminated letter may have been sent to the Washington area. Health experts previously believed that a single letter, sent to the office of Senate Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.), likely caused all the anthrax reports in the Washington area as it came in contact with other pieces of mail in the system. Now the "working hypothesis would be that this is not cross-contamination," said Jeffrey Koplan, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "There is not enough infectious material from cross-contamination to do that." However, ongoing searches of truckloads of undelivered mail to the U.S. Capitol and other government buildings has turned up no other letters laced with anthrax bacteria, leading FBI officials to assume that the Daschle letter may still be the only local source. Two employees at the U.S. Postal Service's Brentwood facility in Washington have died from inhaling the lethal bacteria, and three other local postal workers have contracted inhalational anthrax. "This envelope, Daschle's envelope, is not watertight or airtight or anything like that," one law enforcement official said. "It's porous. At one or two microns, there's plenty of room for the spores to escape." Although there is consensus at the FBI and CIA that al Qaeda associates are planning more serious attacks, "nobody believes the anthrax scare we are going through is" the next wave of terrorism, one senior official said. "There is no intelligence on it and it does not fit any [al Qaeda] pattern." No links between known foreign terrorist groups and the anthrax letters have shown up on the daily Top Secret Threat Matrix, which includes the latest raw intelligence on potential bombings, hijackings or other terrorist attacks, one official said. Though "lots of things are alarming" on the list, there is little agreement on how, when or where an attack might be launched, officials said. FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III warned earlier this week that additional terror attacks are a "distinct possibility." President Bush and other top U.S. officials have publicly voiced their suspicion that bin Laden and al Qaeda -- accused of carrying out the Sept. 11 suicide assaults on the World Trade Center and Pentagon -- may be responsible for the anthrax mailings. But Mueller, Attorney General John D. Ashcroft and other law enforcement officials have said they have discovered no links between the mailings and bin Laden. Authorities, speaking on condition of anonymity yesterday, said they are increasingly doubtful that any connections will be found. One official said the only significant clue raising the possibility of foreign terrorist involvement is the conclusion of FBI behavioral scientists, who believe that whoever wrote the three letters delivered to Daschle, NBC News and the New York Post did not learn English as a first language. But the writer could have lived in this country for some time, and the other evidence gathered so far points away from a foreign source, several officials said. The anti-Israel message in the anthrax letters and bin Laden's statements are echoed by U.S. extremist groups, said Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. One group, Aryan Action, praises the Sept. 11 attacks on its Web site and declares: "Either you're fighting with the jews against al Qaeda, or you support al Qaeda fighting against the jews." Cooper said a meeting this year in Beirut was attended by neo-Nazis and Islamic extremists united in their hatred of Jews. "Some extremists are now globalized," he said. White supremacists have been linked with anthrax in the past, but not in relation to an attack. Larry Wayne Harris, an Ohio microbiologist and former member of the Aryan Nations, was convicted of wire fraud in 1997 after he obtained three vials of bubonic plague germs through the mail. He was arrested the next year near Las Vegas when the FBI acted on a tip that he was carrying anthrax. But agents found harmless anthrax vaccine in the trunk of his car. Cooper and officials at the Southern Poverty Law Project, which monitors U.S. hate groups, said they have seen no evidence of a domestic group capable of launching a sophisticated anthrax attack. One of the challenges that a would-be terrorist faces is learning how to alter the anthrax so that it will float in the air and disperse widely. The Washington Post reported this week that the spores in the Daschle letter had been treated with a chemical additive using technology so sophisticated that it almost certainly came from the United States, Iraq or the former Soviet Union. White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said yesterday, however, that investigators believe a broad range of people are capable of the crime. "The qualityanthrax sent to Senator Daschle's office could be produced by a Ph.D. microbiologist and a sophisticated laboratory," he told reporters. U.S. officials said the evidence so far does not point to either Russia or Iraq. However, FBI checks of private and government laboratories in the United States have not yet revealed any missing anthrax stockpiles, disgruntled scientists or other suspicious circumstances, one top official said. Koplan, the CDC director, said he suspects more than one letter was involved based on his understanding of how difficult it is to contract inhalational anthrax. To cause the disease, 8,000 to 10,000 anthrax spores must enter a person's lungs. Although some officials said it is possible for that many spores to have sloughed off the letter sent to Daschle onto another piece of mail, Koplan said that is hard to imagine. "We all think that would be highly unlikely to virtually impossible," he said. Koplan speculated that there may have been multiple mailings and that "there may be several places within the federal government that have been deemed targets." By contrast, the minuscule amounts of anthrax bacteria discovered at Walter Reed Hospital and the CIA "may well represent cross-contamination," Koplan said. William C. Patrick, who is retired from the U.S. Army installation at Fort Detrick, Md., said extensive studies show that once anthrax spores hit the ground or other surfaces they stick, and are very hard to "re-aerosolize. There's a theoretical possibility that a few spores picked up by an envelope might cause a skin anthrax infection, but a case of inhalational anthrax "is highly unlikely," Patrick said. Staff writers David Brown, Ceci Connolly, Ellen Nakashima and Peter Slevin and researcher Madonna Lebling contributed to this report. © 2001 The Washington Post Company __________________________________________________________________________ Distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. --- ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. 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Cryptography and the Present Crisis
by Incognito Innominatus 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

Cypherpunks are forgetting everything they are supposed to know. Does anyone remember why this list was formed? Does the "cypher" in cypherpunk mean anything? Has anyone considered whether there is a role for crypto technology in the face of the current threats to civil rights? These new laws are a perfect opportunity to promote the message of cryptography for privacy. Virtually all of the provisions which have cypherpunks wailing in despair can be easily circumvented by the use of crypto technology. And every trial balloon floated to limit or ban crypto has been shot down instantly, so full of holes that it will never fly. Carnivore will be deployed to snoop on email? Simple, use PGP/GPG. Carnivore used for "trap and trace" address gathering? Simple, use remailers to disguise the patterns of who you are communicating with. Legitimate criticism of U.S. government potentially interpreted as supporting terrorism? Simple, make your points anonymously or pseudonymously and be free from the fear of prosecution. Every one of these policies is an opportunity, not a threat. To the extent that these crackdowns engender concern about privacy violations from a growing segment of the population, this is a chance for cypherpunks to spread their knowledge and their technology. You don't have to be a paranoid any more to be afraid that the government is spying on you. John Ashcroft himself boasts that Big Government will be watching. Cypherpunks should be taking advantage of this opportunity to promote their message of privacy through technology. For the first time since the group was formed, they can make a legitimate case that the threat of government surveillance is increasing. With the Bill of Rights being tossed out the window and the AG openly admitting to bending the rules to achieve his goals, a wide community is going to be receptive to this message. Of course there are presently substantial numbers who are caught up in the collectivist urge and who might view attempts to protect privacy as unpatriotic. But this is a temporary phenomenon, already fading. The flags which flew from every car and building in sight a few weeks ago are disappearing. Yet the Draconian new regulations will not go away. Inevitably there will be a growing segment of the population which sees the government as a fearsome threat. It is time for cypherpunks to go back to their roots. Let us put the cypher back in cypherpunk. There are other places where people can whine about how evil congress is or fantasize about secession from the U.S. Focus on crypto and what role it can play in the current crisis. Believe it or not, no one else is doing that. No one in the world is speaking out to say, here are tools which can circumvent the government's efforts to take away our privacy. If the cypherpunks don't do it, no one will.

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IP: Beyond Carnivore: FBI Eyes Packet Taps (fwd)
by mikecabot＠fastcircle.com 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

The info in the Interactive Week article is basically the same info from the National Journal article previously posted here, which leads me to suspect that Baker is simply repeating the same rumor to everyone who'll write about it. But..... it is interesting that they say "router manufacturers" here. I believe that what Baker "heard" was simply the FBI going out to people like Cisco and some of the larger network providers and people responsible for provisioning NAPs and saying "we want you to implement the additions to IPSEC that the IETF refused to implement". (For background, the FBI, DOJ, DoD -- the "usual suspects" -- had presented a series of recommendations to the IETF last year that would create "packet accounting" features in IPSEC protocols and future IP protocols.... they were rejected by the IETF, which stated at the time that the idea of creating built-in exploits to a protocol designed for security was counterintuitive. See http://www.ietf.org for more info.) Now, it is entirely possible that given the public pressure arising from the 9-11 attacks, individual manufacturers (read" "Cisco") might bow to such pressure, and build-in some of these features into future products AND into future software builds for existing products. So, I think this is what Baker "heard" -- not that the FBI has any such system in place or would have one anytime soon... rather, that the FBI will re-present these proposals one-on-one with Cisco and a few <major> network providers, and in effect, get the impact of their previously-rejected proposals implemented to cover maybe as much as 80% or more of the traffic in the domestic US. And besides access to the majority of USA packet traffic, they would have access to some part of international traffic too... it's beyong the scope of this email, but keep in mind that many non-USA NAPs are really connected to one another VIA the USA..... in effect, bug the USA NAPs, and you get access to almost all the traffic from Pacific Rim countries like Japan, Australia, etc. and you get access to small parts of Western Europe also, not to mention parts of Africa and the Middle East that uplink via satellite instead of a wired connection. An enterprising reporter might make an interesting article out of trying to track down exactly what parts of the IETF proposal the FBI wants (Declan?) and someone could post copies of the draft proposal as first released at ietf.org (JYA?). But I digress :) > Original Message from Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:14:50 0200 (MET DST):> > > > -- Eugen* Leitl leitl > ______________________________________________________________ > ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 > 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 06:07:48 -0400 > From: David Farber > Reply-To: farber(a)cis.upenn.edu > To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com > Subject: IP: Beyond Carnivore: FBI Eyes Packet Taps > > > > > >From: Monty Solomon > >Subject: Beyond Carnivore: FBI Eyes Packet Taps > > > > > >October 18, 2001 > >Beyond Carnivore: FBI Eyes Packet Taps > >By Max Smetannikov > > > >Expect the FBI to expand its Internet wiretapping program, says a > >source familiar with the plan. > > > >Stewart Baker, a partner with law firm Steptoe & Johnson, is a former > >general counsel to the National Security Agency. He says the FBI has > >spent the last two years developing a new surveillance architecture > >that would concentrate Internet traffic in several key locations > >where all packets, not just e-mail, could be wiretapped. It is now > >planning to begin implementing this architecture using the powers it > >has under existing wiretapping laws. > > > >http://www.interactiveweek.com/article/0,3658,s%3D605%26a% 253D16678,00.asp > > > For archives see: > http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ WANT YOUR OWN FREE AND SECURE WEB EMAIL ADDRESS? Visit http://www.fastcircle.com

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Re: Re: Pravda Propaganda On The NRA, GOA and Militias
by Malcolm Idaho 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

Tim May wrote: (...snip...) > (For those outside the U.S., a word of explanation. For some reason, > political mappers showed votes for Al Gore in _blue_ and votes for Bush > in _red_. I have no idea how this came to be...I had never noticed it > until this past election. In fact, it was only in this past election > that most of the commentators glommed on this "look at the red parts of > the map versus the blue parts of the map" meme, so apparently a lot of > us got exposed to this red vs. blue mapping only recently.) (...snip...) View the map in question here: http://www.nukewoody.com/electmap.jpg MI

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web.archive.org Internet archive to open ---google + archeology
by Subcommander Bob 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

Hey Mitch --Another part of your permenant record http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-102501archive.story By JOSEPH MENN, Times Staff Writer SAN FRANCISCO -- An Internet archive containing more text than any library in history will open its digital doors today, giving researchers and the public access to just about everything posted on the World Wide Web over the last five years. The free archive, created by a San Francisco computer entrepreneur named Brewster Kahle, allows academics to conduct the electronic equivalent of archeological digs, rooting through reams of material illustrating the evolution of the Web and its role in American society. The Internet Archive, informally called the Wayback Machine, holds more than 10 billion Web pages dating to 1996, including millions that had vanished as dot-coms collapsed, big companies scaled back or updated their offerings, and hobbyist Webmasters lost interest. Researchers and academics have likened Kahle to a modern-day Andrew Carnegie, the steel baron who endowed many of the nation's finest libraries. "Libraries are dedicated to collecting and making available the permanent historical record," said Diane Kresh, the Library of Congress' director for public service collections. She said trolling the Net is as significant as gathering books or periodicals. Want to see what the Heaven's Gate cult page looked like before the group's mass suicide? There it is. Want to see how Yahoo's pages have changed since 1996? Step this way. Pages published by everyone from Fortune 500 companies to renegade porn merchants are stashed in the Internet Archive. The five-year, multimillion-dollar project has amassed five times as much text as the Library of Congress, which helped fund the archive along with Compaq Computer Corp., the National Science Foundation and the Smithsonian Institution. The more-than 100 terabytes of data are housed on 300 modified Hewlett-Packard desktop computers in a basement at San Francisco's Presidio. The effort to record Internet history has been directed and largely financed by Kahle, a 41-year-old former supercomputer technologist who sold one Web firm to America Online and another to Amazon.com. "The opportunity of our time is to offer universal access to all of human knowledge," Kahle said Wednesday from his office in the Presidio, a decommissioned military base near the Golden Gate Bridge. "We're at a unique point in time to offer universal access to anyone who walks into a library in Uganda." The Internet Archive uses automated "bots" to scour the Web. They capture sites and return what they find to the computers at the Presidio. The archive updates every two months. Once captured, the sites are organized chronologically. Users type in a Web address, and the archive displays versions of that site since 1996. Sites that require passwords or block bots are not captured. And if someone objects to their site being copied, the archive removes it. As smaller, less accessible versions of the archive were being compiled, Kahle's 30 staffers got a few complaints. After the staff explained that it wasn't personal, that they were copying everyone's sites, the vast majority decided they didn't mind, Kahle said. "Most people say, 'You're crazy, but go for it,' " Kahle said. "People want to be part of history." Candidates to use the service, at web.archive.org, include academics, journalists and researchers. "It will allow researchers to study the evolution of the Web in a way that is unprecedented," said research scientist Ed Chi of the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center. He said Xerox PARC scientists already are working on new user interfaces based on what the archive showed them about how people looked for information. Early on, "we suspect people will go look for their own pages and see if they can get copies of things that they've lost," Kahle said. "We're not exactly sure how this is going to be used. We're looking forward to being surprised." Like many Internet pioneers, however, Kahle faces unfamiliar risks along with the opportunities. The Internet Archive may be a massive violation of copyright law. "Brewster is taking an extraordinarily personal risk, because this is potentially a criminal offense," said Lawrence Lessig, an expert on intellectual property in cyberspace at Stanford University. Kahle doesn't anticipate getting sued, let alone serving jail time. His plan is to post whatever he can--and keep the archive growing. "We're not here to test laws," Kahle said. "We're trying to build a world we want to live in. The world without a library is a world without a memory, and that would be tragic." The legal questions may take years to resolve, Kahle and Lessig said. Consider the Industry Standard. At least some of that defunct magazine's articles are back online through Kahle's archive. But shareholder IDG paid more than $1 million for the Standard's assets, including rights to those stories. An IDG spokeswoman declined to say whether the company would ask the archive to drop the articles. Kahle said he isn't worrying about the hypotheticals. He's more excited about finding early www.whitehouse.gov pages from 1996 that dealt with airport safety and bioterrorism. Even better is what's to come. "The woman who is going to be elected president in 2024 is in high school now, and I bet she has a home page," Kahle said. "We have the future president's home page!"

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A champion of liberty speaks about privacy, cash smuggling
by Declan McCullagh 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

Debate last evening: http://frwebgate1.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=9635463676+… Mrs. ROUKEMA. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Oxley) for yielding the time. I rise in strong support of this legislation today. Many of us in this Chamber have worked for a number of years to provide the law enforcement tools that we need to fight the drug trade, money launderers, and terrorists; and in the wake of September 11, the terrorist attacks, this has never been more important. And indeed, we may soon learn that the anthrax attacks are financed by the same money sources. We do not know that yet. The point is that, as has already been outlined, particularly by the gentleman from New York (Mr. LaFalce), I want to commend him for stating some of the specifics of this legislation. He has been a leader, and we have [[Page H7203]] worked together on this, and whether we are talking about the bill prohibiting correspondent banking privileges for offshore shell banks and authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to take special measures if a foreign country or bank is deemed to present a money laundering threat, the gentleman from New York (Mr. LaFalce) went into great detail on that, and I want to associate myself with his remarks. The bill is not perfect. I am sorry that, for example, we excluded making it a crime to smuggle over $10,000 interstate. We included it for overseas, but it was not included for interstate. Nevertheless, this is an excellent bill. I would like to say to some of the nay sayers that complain about the provisions, as to whether or not they deny due process or whatever, the question has been asked are we endangering the rights and privacy of innocent Americans. The answer is no, but it does give our law enforcement officials the requirements that they need for their careful investigation. It gives our regulators and law enforcement officials what they need to get the job done. May I say that in this brave new world of terrorists, we must cripple this demonic network. Let me just have a couple of additional seconds to say that unless we have this strong provision in the bill, it would make a mockery of the legislation; and it is an absolutely essential core of anti-terrorist legislation.

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Democratic critters' biochemwomdterror plans
by Declan McCullagh 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

>* * * * * MEDIA ADVISORY * * * * * > >NEWS FROM THE OFFICE OF THE DEMOCRATIC LEADER > >______________________________________________________ > >FOR IMMEDIATE >RELEASE: House Democratic >Leader Richard A. Gephardt >Wednesday, October 23, >2001 >H-204, U.S. Capitol > > ><http://democraticleader.house.gov/>http://democraticleader.house.gov/ > >GEPHARDT, MENENDEZ TO ANNOUNCE DEMOCRATIC BIOTERRORISM LEGISLATION > >WASHINGTON, DC -- Rep. Bob Menendez (D-NJ), Vice Chair of the Democratic >Caucus and Chair of the Democratic Task Force on Homeland Security, joined >by Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt and Members of the Task Force, will >announce the Democratic proposal to prepare and protect communities >throughout America against future threats or attacks. > >The Democratic Bill, the Bioterrorism Protection Act (BioPAct) of 2001, >seeks to eliminate biological threats, secure our borders on land and at >sea, protect our food and water, equip our communities with the resources >to prevent and respond to bioterrorism, and strengthen our Intelligence >through full coordination, using our most advanced technology to fight >bioterrorism. > >WHO: Gephardt, Menendez, Democratic Task Force on Homeland Security >WHAT: Democratic Bioterrorism Bill >WHEN: Thursday, October 25th, 10:00 a.m >WHERE: House Triangle >(This event will replace the usual stakeout following the Democratic Caucus) > ###

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Conman, quantum entaglement and no cat
by Anonymous 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/text_only.cfm?id=116404 Magicians lottery list accurate THE American illusionist David Copperfield said yesterday he has been bombarded by requests for tips on the winning numbers in Germanys national lottery on Saturday night - numbers he said he predicted seven months ago. Copperfield wrote down his forecast on 17 February for the multi-million mark lottery drawing due on 13 October. The prediction was sealed by a notary and locked in a box that was kept under round-the-clock surveillance. An hour after the winning numbers were drawn, the box was opened on a live television broadcast and the numbers matched the winning draw: 2, 9, 10, 15, 25, 38 and 4. "It wasnt a trick," Copperfield told Bild am Sonntag newspaper after the performance on the popular Wanna Bet? show on ZDF television. "It was more an experiment and mental exercise. We only use about 10 per cent of our brain capacity." Copperfield said he is not tempted to play the lottery himself because he would not be able to "see" the numbers. "I used to try it out by giving friends the numbers, but then it would never work," he said. "If the numbers arent kept secret, it doesnt work." Copperfield said hundreds of people had written him since February begging him for tips on what numbers to pick. "Hundreds of emails, so many letters and requests from people in despair. " But can he do RSA keys ? If he can, that would mean that they are truly random. If he can't they are not. This test should become a part of Diehard.

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a question
by (na) mshoe 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

I first want you to know I understand what you do but I need to ask you to please remove the post from http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.2001.05.07-2001.05.13/msg00330.html I am only 16 and just wanted to get some money the easy way at the time I had no idea that it was illegal. I know I made a mistake and I am sorry for it. I just want to put this mistake beind me and getting my family's address off the internet would be a big help. Please consider removing the postings. Thank You, Mitch __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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