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Hayek quotes
by Jim Choate 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Liberty not only means that the individual has both the opportunity and the burden of choice; it also means that he must bear the consequences of his actions. Liberty and responsibility are inseperable. "The Constitution of Liberty" I am certain that nothing has done so much to destroy the judicial safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice. "Economic Freedom and Representative Government" -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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kuro5hin.org || An Introduction to Moral Theory
by Jim Choate 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

http://www.Kuro5hin.org/story/2001/11/6/194745/177 -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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The Friedrich Hayek Quote Page
by Jim Choate 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

http://www.hayekcenter.org/friedrichhayek/hayekquote.htm I'm still waiting for one of you self-professed C-A-C-L geniuses to provide a quote or cite in Hayek's work to support your view. If I'm so wrong in my interpretation it should be trivial for you to do so... -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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The Register - ICANN scraps conference agenda, goes big on security
by Jim Choate 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/22695.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Austin Cypherpunks Physical Meet - Tue. Nov. 13
by Jim Choate 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Time: November 13, 2001 Second Tuesday of each month 7:00 - 9:00 pm (or later) Location: Central Market HEB Cafe 38th and N. Lamar Weather permitting we meet in the un-covered tables. If it's inclimate but not overly cold we meet in the outside covered section. Otherwise look for us inside the building proper. Identification: Look for the group with the "Applied Cryptography" book. It will have a red cover and is about 2 in. thick. Contact Info: http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr/index.html#austincpunks -- ____________________________________________________________________ Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Asscruft Puffery
by Subcommander Bob 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

At 07:42 AM 10/26/01 -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: >Deliberate vagueness on Asscruft's part, I suspect. As I understand it, He is strutting and puffing like a rooster who watches his hens being taken away by a fox. At least Reno was scary, neither are convincing.

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RE: Enemy at the Door
by Trei, Peter 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

> keyser-soze@hushmail.com[SMTP:keyser-soze@hushmail.com] > > > Seems those opposed to the coming civil liberties crack down need to start > employing some of the very same technology proposed to corral us. For > starters how about PC FaceCam to punish sneek and peekers? Seems that if > the data base of such a system were programmed to detect entry and > descriminate family members or others who should have legit access to your > property you could use it to deter their searches.(Probably a good idea to > put a good UPS on the PC and FaceCam to thwart power interruptions, though > why they would want to risk causing a tell tale time reset to one of you > appliances I can't imaginge.) > [...] > Of course you could connect an automated firearm. (Crime Stoppers Note: > aways aim for the head to avoid protective vests) Any lawyers on the list > know what penalties might be brought. I seem to recall that tying a > shotgun to the door knob was ruled an "indescriminate weapon" But a > FaceCam controlled gun wouldn't be indescriminate. > > ks > Try explaining that to the widow of the fireman who was trying to save your house. ...of course, that's assuming that it works perfectly, with no false returns. Reality rarely matches marketing. The accuracy rates for face recognition are good iff and only iff the subject is cooperating. With your proposed system, if you forgot to take off your sunglasses when you went in the house, you're probably dead. Peter Trei

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Sony and Robots...shows how crazy the "anti-hacking" regime has become
by Tim May 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Saw this interesting application of the new hardware copyright/anti-tampering/anti-reverse-engineering regime in place" http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011107/tc/sony_robot_hack_1.html excerpt: "Wednesday November 7 2:20 PM ET Pet Robot Owners Mad at Sony By YURI KAGEYAMA, AP Business Writer TOKYO (AP) - Many owners of the world's most sophisticated robot pet, the cuddly Aibo, are growling at Sony Corp (news - web sites). over its demand that a Web site stop distributing free software that teaches the machine new tricks. ``It was a very stiff legal position Sony took without regard to how it will affect the Aibo community,'' said Richard Walkus, a publishing house employee from Madison, N.J., who owns two Aibo robots but is now putting any new Aibo orders on hold. ``Sony is to some degree undermining its own success.'' In a letter last month, Sony told the owner of the AiboHack site that he was violating its copyright and altering its product without a license. It demanded a long list of Aibo software - including code that taught the machine disco steps and new words - be pulled off the site. --end excerpt-- This shows how crazy the laws have gotten. These robots are essentially computers, and the "hacks" are just new computer programs. Imagine: "Dell has announced they are are suing anyone who makes available software for their machines that Dell did not authorize." "Ford plans to protect its intellectual property by blocking after-market sales of trailer hitches, bed liners, light bulbs, and even motor oil not sold by authorized Ford dealers. "By examining our products and determining how to make things like trailer hitches, these pirates are in violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright," said Ford spokesman Jason Natter." If robots cannot be reprogrammed, then neither can all sorts of other electronic gear that people routinely reprogram, improve, take apart, etc. Adding a programmable search function to a shortwave radio, for example, would fall under the same nonsensical terms as the Sony case. ObCypherpunks: I despise the DMCA, but my faith is not in having such laws overturned. In fact, the explosion of new laws is likely unstoppable. However, using technology to thwart traceability (*) is a means of monkeywrenching such laws. (* I wonder if anonymous remailers will someday be classed as "circumvention devices"? We debated this years ago, wondering whether the laws against unauthorized (!) possession of lock-picking tools and "burglar tools" could be used to de facto illegalize remailers.) --Tim May "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -- Nietzsche

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Re: Entertainingly dangerous spam - Access and use your PC from anywhe
by Anonymous 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

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Buenos Dias
by Artcamp SC de RL 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Buenos Días. Receive greetings from our rural womens artisans cooperative in Guerrero México. Our road as women artisans in the Third World has not been easy in the past years it is hard. we do NOT mind working because it is honest, and necessary in order to support our families. It is still more difficult to sell our products sometimes, because of the costs of reaching the customers; to make a single telephone call to the United States for 20 minutes costs us what we earn in a days work. For this reason we sell mostly to wholesalers, because they purchase our products in larger quantities but we have to have orders constantly, because there is not much profit for us at the prices we sell at. Sometimes it happens that the wholesalers do not pay us at all they just refuse or wont answer our calls; this does not happen very often but it does happen and this is very costly to us and makes us go backwards. We have been trying to reach the market more directly and so we have developed a website for that purpose; but the Internet site by itself does not solve the problem of how we may sell directly to retailers in the market. Our idea is to perform the part of the wholesaler who sells our product to the stores at profit; however good may be his or her intentions there is necessity to pay salaries and overhead and U.S. taxes and travel expenses Wholesalers have to pay all these costs somehow in order to keep on in business. We are the producers; we are the producers themselves, we transform the materials into the finished product: handcrafted jewelry. the key to our success will be to get a lot of orders to keep down the shipping expense per kilo that way we can ship the product to small customers in a single large container, that is the key. We are going to make an effort to solve the problem of our isolation from the market by creating the wholesaler function at the end of our village-based production system You can be very important in helping this project to succeed; if Artcamp can make the step up to becoming our own wholesalers, then we can get stronger and make a success for everybody. THANK YOU for taking the time to read this message. You can see our pictures modeling our own creations http://www.artcamp.com.mx/XA/18.html and working in our shop http://www.artcamp.com.mx/FG/c13.html Atentamente, Areli, Luz, Yolanda, Hilaria, Tamara, María, Angelica, Esperanza, Rocio, Minerva. and the other women of our cooperative ARTCAMP SC de RL Artesanas Campesinas

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