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13 Nov '01

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13 Nov '01

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13 Nov '01

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Re: Regalo
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13 Nov '01

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Al Jazeera plans version in English
by !Dr. Joe Baptista 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

Finally - real british style news reporting and real journalism to balance the constant jibberish one see's on CNN and for that matter most of the north american news channels. joe Source: The Telegraph - UK Type: Web Pointer; Sample URL: http://news.telegraph.co.uk Date: 12 Nov 2001 Title: Al Jazeera plans version in English TEXT: Al Jazeera plans version in English By Charles Clover in Doha (Filed: 12/11/2001) THE only television station broadcasting live from Taliban-held areas of Afghanistan plans to introduce an English version early next year. Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, has around 15 million viewers a day in the Arab world, including satellite subscribers in the West. But, as it broadcasts in Arabic, it does not have the global audiences that broadcasting in English could bring it. Clips from Al Jazeera's footage of the bombing of Kabul and the video messages sent by Osama bin Laden to its office in Kabul have been used by networks around the world, including the BBC, ITN, CNN and Sky News. But the station has been accused by Colin Powell, the US secretary of state, and Tony Blair of screening broadcasts which could contain coded messages and Taliban propaganda without a critical commentary. Ibrahim Hilal, the 32-year-old Egyptian editor-in-chief of the station, said he was under intense pressure from managers to launch English language broadcasts by January. He thought March was more realistic. He denies allegations of bias: "We give time to anybody in this crisis. If the Archbishop of Canterbury has something to say he will be on my screen. We had him the other day." ) Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 2001. http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2001%2F11%2F12%2F… Joe Baptista http://www.dot-god.com/ The dot.GOD Registry, Limited

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Re: Cypherpunks Rating System
by Trei, Peter 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

> Nomen Nescio[SMTP:nobody@dizum.com] wrote: > > Cypherpunk Rating System [...] > Clearly it would be highly ironic for a pro-privacy group like the > cypherpunks to adopt PICS technology, which has been widely criticized > by free speech groups. Nevertheless it would be instructive to have an > example where ratings are used for the opposite of the politically correct > purposes for which they were originally intended. Cypherpunks could > use PICS to help find information on defeating government surveillance > and interfering with the increasing crackdowns on civil liberties. > [...] > Suggestions for expanding the rating system are welcome. ----------------------- How about suggestions to drop the whole idea? (I'm sort of reminded of the classic Crumb cartoon: A bunch of hippies sitting around a room, and one of them says "I've got a great idea: Everyone stop playing head games with each other, starting now!") This is a Really Bad Idea, for a number of reasons. 1. Any system of normalized 'voluntary' labeling has a habit of becoming effectively mandatory - see the content ratings on movies, and now video games and records. How'd you like to see the sorts of ratings you're proposing applied to books and magazines? I don't want to see pissing matches over whether Alice applied the right lables, in Bob's opinion. 2. Content drifts on this list, rapidly and frequently. 'Enemy at the door' started out with a truly stupid and dangerous idea for a face-recognition based booby trap, and finished as a discussion of long-haul 802.11b networks. Asking every person posting to spend time considering detailed and accurate labeling for every post they make is hopeless. 3. Irony, allegory, and insinuation are an integral part of activity on this type of mailing list, and by their nature, cannot be accurately captured by a rating system. Don't misapply a system created for more-or-less static standalone web pages to a freewheeling discussion list where each message cannot be properly understood except in light of a lot of context and history. 4. The things people complain about are usually much less about topic, then they are complaints about other poster's positions on a given topic. We don't bitch too much about postings concerning physics (which are pretty off-topic), but we waste a lot of bits on bitching about Choate's version of physics. This kind of thing is also not really captured by a self-applied rating system. I'm all in favor of informative Subject lines, but to systematize something just for the sake of systematizing it is pointless petty authoritarianism. Just what *problem* are you trying to solve, anyway? Peter Trei

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Starium
by Uran233＠aol.com 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

Anyone have any of the Beta units for sale. I have 2 and would like more.

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13 Nov '01

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13 Nov '01

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You've Been Removed!
by Nurse-zine_admin＠allnurses.com 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

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