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Re: Soldiers Celebrate with executions
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

Golly gee willikers, you mean it's not all beard-shaving, turban-tossing, music and dancing in the streets? You mean our own news agencies were just spewing propaganda? Now ain't that a surprise? Why do you suppose they would do that?

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13 Nov '01

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13 Nov '01

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The Register - To be or not to 802.11b...
by Jim Choate 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

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Waco Prosecutor Admits Lying To Superiors Gets Probation
by Matthew Gaylor 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

<http://www.dallasnews.com/waco/388365_waco_08tex.ART.html> Attorney in Waco case gets probation Prosecutor admits lying to superiors 06/08/2001 By Joe Stange / Associated Press ST. LOUIS - Former federal prosecutor Bill Johnston was sentenced Thursday to two years of probation for withholding information about exploding tear-gas canisters used during the 1993 Branch Davidian siege near Waco. In refusing a federal prosecutor's recommendation of a jail sentence, U.S. District Judge Charles Shaw said Mr. Johnston's motivation did not appear to be devious and also ordered him to perform 200 hours of community service. [...] ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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Re: Sedition
by Faustine 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 declan wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 02:20:28PM -0500, Faustine wrote: > It sure is. That's why I think (and have always openly said, here and > everywhere) we need more pro-freedom policy analysts in Washington. >Of course, if you're a hardcore libertarian ("abolish all >unconstitutional federal agencies, and that's most of 'em! let's >revert back to the firearms laws we had 150 years ago!"), then you >don't get listened to. Who says all libertarians are obliged to come on like a ton of bricks? There's no reason you can't keep your hardcore beliefs to yourself while doing the most rigorous and objective analysis you can. That's the one real difference between being just another partisan and a serious analyst who commands repsect, when you think of it. Earning a reputation for using only the highest standards and most rigorous methodology comes first, the way I see it. Your principles and priorities never change, but by not revealing them to people all at once, you're able to find your way into projects and situations where they can have a significant impact. That's the plan, anyway. >Having more "pro freedom policy analysts" in Washington won't >accomplish much until other things change too. Sadly enough, you're probably right. But isn't it about time somebody started trying? I think so. ~Faustine. *** The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedoms. - --William O. Douglas, Associate Justice, US Supreme Court -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBO/GpGvg5Tuca7bfvEQJ1XQCeJ3efzreFj4YxtvJZr85mv8gyOPoAnR8+ 7sbb9F8lmeMtKq8Lkc3E6Sw1 =XzAW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Sedition
by Faustine 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: On Tuesday, November 13, 2001, at 11:20 AM, Faustine wrote: > Fine. I dont know why you seem to be missing my point: being provoked > into incriminating yourself by an anonymous troll is an entirely different > issue from discussing the substance of whatever it is you happen to be doing. > No, _you_ miss the point: that I was not "incriminating" myself in any > way. I'll bet you all were running the risk of facing arbitrary enforcement of a whole slew of restrictions on firearms, explosives, etc. Talking about organized training in a public forum isn't going to make it any easier for you. >You and your kind need to read up on Burroughs' "The Policeman Inside." >"If we do not censor ourselves, others will do it for us." >"Cypherpunks should voluntarily restrict the topics they discuss." >"We should impose voluntary self-labeling of all posts, so that Congress >will not." >"I must not think certain thoughts, and I must report others who do." Quite a nice little collection of straw men you have there. Too bad for you they have nothing to do with what I think. The archives speak for themselves; I doubt you can find one post where I said any of that claptrap. > I just happen to have this gut-level common sense belief that if people > might be able to use something against any given person, it's > counterproductive and > potentially dangerous to broadcast it the way you always do. >>Ah, weapons training by me and my friends is somehow counterproductive >>and dangerous? The fact that the First and Second Amendments protect >>such activities is counterproductive and dangerous to you? Absolutely not. I've made it crystal clear how I feel about gun ownership, the right to defend one's life and property, and the first and second amendments. I draw the line at initiating force though. What I find dangerous and counterproductive is your repeated escalation and provocation of law enforcement. Surely you knew by responding to the troll you'd be kicking it up yet another notch. What's the point? Aren't you in enough of a balance of terror already? I guess not. >Please explain how my one paragraph summary of my weekend activities >provided "dangerous" people with knowledge they didn't already have. The dangerous people I have in mind are all the pissed-off federal agents on the "domestic terrorist" jihad who are circling the wagons and looking for more rope to hang you with. I have no idea how much they knew about whatever you were doing, but it was the first time I ever saw you speak as if you're getting something in particular organized. That's the way it came across. How much of all this boils down to the fact that you profoundly relish playing high-stakes intimidation games and would love to be known far and wide as a "force to be reckoned with"? Just a thought. >Your "policeman inside" has been getting way too loud. Stop listening to >her or him. Bah, I just believe in taking personal responsibility for my statements and actions in a public forum. Show me where I ever said anything pro-censorship. > Having moral courage is one thing, playing straight into the hands of people > who wish you ill is quite another. It's none of my business what you do, but > I'll be damned if I don't have the right to say I think you're making a > mistake by talking about it. >>Your concern for me is touching, but it is inappropropriate. Some kind >>of chick thing, I guess. Nah, just a common human feeling called sympathy. >Butt out. As you wish. >Also, your comments were a lot more than concerns about me. You also >implied that my exercise of my fundamental rights of free speech, free >association, Second Amendment rights, etc. was somehow putting the list >and its members at risk. No, just that due to your wee touch of megalomania, you didn't much mind when the troll was characterizing the entire group as having something rightfully to fear from the sedition laws because of support for encryption itself. That's not right. > If you'll look at the archives, we had this conversation a few months > ago. > Nothing has changed. >Why do you continue to waste our time, then? And since you have >repeatedly urged that I simply filter you out, I say, "Physician, heal >thyself." What makes you think I want or need to filter you? >Meanwhile, I'll continue to talk about what I think is important. >All of you who are calling for restraint, for self-labeling, for >installing new moderators...I suggest you either start a new mailing >list or set up a CDR node implementing your policies on restraint, >labeling, and niceness. Please direct your rant to the appropriate person(s) or anyone remotely connected to the above complaints. Thanks! ~Faustine. *** The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedoms. - --William O. 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40 Million Emails, Bulk Hosting, Bulk Mailing & Much More..
by Stealth123＠btamail.net.cn 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

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Congress moves swiftly to thwart terrorism, protect liberty
by Declan McCullagh 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

U.S. House of Representatives Committee on the Judiciary F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr., Chairman _______________________________________ www.house.gov/judiciary News Advisory For immediate release Contact: Jeff Lungren/Terry Shawn November 13, 2001 202-225-2492 Crime Subcommittee Hearing and Markup Wednesday on Terrorism-Related Bills What: Legislative hearing on: H.R. 3275, the "Implementation Legislation for the International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings and the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism," followed immediately by Markup of H.R. 3275 and H.R. 3209, the "Anti-Hoax Terrorism Act of 2001." Who: Subcommittee on Crime - Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), Chairman When: 10:00 a.m., Wednesday, November 14, 2001 Where: 2237 Rayburn Building H.R. 3275 is legislation implementing two international treaties cracking down on terrorism that have been signed by the United States and are expected to be ratified by the Senate in the very near future. The International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings requires parties to the treaty to criminalize the act of terrorist bombing aimed at public or governmental facilities, or public transportation or infrastructure facilities and to either prosecute or extradite any person within their jurisdiction who engages in these bombings. Violators would be subject to up to life in prison, and if death results from the violation, up to life in prison or the death penalty. The International Convention for the Suppression of Financing of Terrorism requires nations to criminalize the act of collecting or providing funds with the intention that they will be used to support acts of international terrorists. The Convention imposes binding legal obligations upon nations either to prosecute or extradite any person within their jurisdiction who unlawfully and willfully provides or collects funds with the intention that they should be used to carry out various terrorist activities. H.R. 3275 subjects violators to up to twenty years in prison and fines of at least $10,000. Witnesses: Mr. Michael Chertoff, Assistant Attorney General, Criminal Division, U.S. Justice Department; others TBA. H.R. 3209 would make it a felony for an individual who engages in a hoax with the intent to convey false or misleading information that there is or will be a chemical, biological, nuclear or weapon of mass destruction attack. Violators would be subject to up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000. ##30## Terry A. Shawn Press Secretary Committee on the Judiciary U.S. House of Representatives 202-225-2492

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WTF is this ?
by Morlock Elloi 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

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