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Fwd: Untraceable money now more than ever!
by Tim May 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

[Retransmission. Due to periodic problems with lne.com, I started sending my messages to ssz.com a few days ago. Alas, ssz.com has had an outage. Hence these retransmissions. Sorry for any dupes.] Begin forwarded message: > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Date: Tue Dec 04, 2001 08:50:24 AM US/Pacific > To: cypherpunks(a)einstein.ssz.com > Subject: Untraceable money now more than ever! > > Or, "Why We Fight." > > Just thought I'd pass along this gem I found in one of the newsgroups. > If true, it shows the unlawful/extralegal reach of government into the > pockets of persons not tried, not convicted, not even charged, not even > plausibly guilty of anything. > > This guy is having his OWN MONEY blocked, probed, and frozen. No > charges, no court, just done by forces unseen to him. > > Editorial comment: The Founders would likely be stunned to see > bureaucrats in a distant city able to reach in and essentially grab the > money of a person without any due process, without fines or > court-ordered seizures, just on the say-so of a bureaucrat. This guy > below _wrote_ about it, so there are probably hundreds more just like > him who choose not to further anger Big Brother by writing angry > letters. > > Me, I'd be so angry I'd probably be strapping on the plastic > explosives.... > > Read it and stoke your righteous anger: > > --begin article-- > This was in today's Washington Post. Check it out at > www.washingtonpost.com > > =============== Letters to the Post == > Whose Sacrifice? > > Monday, December 3, 2001; Page A20 > > American citizens are willing to sacrifice civil liberties in the fight > against terrorism [front page, Nov. 29], but which Americans are doing > the sacrificing? > > Since Sept. 11 the FBI has interviewed me at work and at home because > my name is similar not to that of one of the hijackers, but to an > individual arrested with suspected links to the terrorists. > > The FBI has contacted my broker, my neighbors and my friends to learn > more about me. I was purchasing an apartment, but when I needed to give > my down payment at closing I was informed by my bank that my accounts > were frozen. No one informed me nor could anyone help me resolve the > problem. Only an angry settlement attorney was able to unfreeze the > funds. > > A month passed, and all seemed normal. Then I found out again that I > did not have access to transfer funds from my accounts without > government approval. > > I am a federal employee. I have not been charged with a crime. I do not > support terrorism, and I was willing to help the law enforcement > agencies. It was my duty as an American to answer all the questions > asked of me. > > But as time goes by and I have to get "clearance" every time I want to > make a bank transfer, I feel victimized. Every time I travel and receive > the extra security checks because of my name it makes me trust my > government less. What scares me even more is that I am an American > citizen, and that is why I am not in jail. If I were not a citizen I > could be one of the hundreds of detainees, or I could be in sitting in > front of a secret military court only because the crime I am guilty of > is that my name is Ali Ayub and not Joe Smith. > > ALI AYUB > > Arlington > > 7 2001 The Washington Post Company > > --end article-- > > > > --Tim May > "If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third > hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're > around." --attribution uncertain, possibly Gunner, on Usenet --Tim May "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship." --Alexander Fraser Tyler

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Fwd: Russian Manifesto, long and probably useless
by Tim May 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

[Retransmission. Due to periodic problems with lne.com, I started sending my messages to ssz.com a few days ago. Alas, ssz.com has had an outage. Hence these retransmissions. Sorry for any dupes.] Begin forwarded message: > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Date: Tue Dec 04, 2001 09:25:34 AM US/Pacific > To: cypherpunks(a)einstein.ssz.com > Subject: Re: Russian Manifesto, long and probably useless > > > On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 04:14 AM, Fyodor wrote: > >>> <<Only in our country is it possible for such an ineffective, >>> talentless >>> government to exist.>> >>> >>> Here we go again! I mean, I'm sure the Russian government is >>> incompetent - >>> but to decry that? Pray for more! The more incompetent they are, the >>> more >>> chances you have of developing an economy behind their backs. >>> >> >> Wrong. Having russian background I guess I have more clear >> understanding >> what these guys are trying to say: The government is definetely >> ineffective in protecting its citizen, providing the social wealthfare >> to them and such, but on the other hand the government corruption, deep >> involvement with crimilal circles and udertable deals with big foreign >> corporations bring the country into the situation when the rulling top >> of the country is having/sharing a huge amount (can't bring any >> number) of >> all the profits, while the rest of population (especially pensioners in >> russia (people of age of 50 and above, who are brought up in >> post-socialist environment and are totally incapable to adopt to new >> environment)) are thrown and maintained in poverty. > > This matches everything I have seen about Russia. It simply is > implausible that "corruption and inefficiency means more opportunities > for economies behind their backs" (to summarize the argument). > > What Russia shows is that privatizing a state-run economy is difficult > indeed. Gazprom, the big gas and energy company, is a case in point. > There was no "free market" to acquire the resources of this > "privatized" company: the thugs and apparatchniks (sp?) grabbed the > company. And they are willing to use former KGB, GRU, and Spetsnaz > killers to enforce their monopoly. > > What about non-heavy industry? Television, for example? Read about the > ongoing shutdown of Moscow independent stations and networks, on flimsy > grounds having the _language_ of capitalism (stuff about "loan > default") but actually being just part of the thugocracy approach. (The > U.S. is not blameless here. Our own FCC applies similar rules sometimes > to block stations. And woe unto any Islamic broadcaster, where the new > language is that the First Amendment does not apply to "hate speech" or > "speech insulting to other religions." At this rate, the long-awaited > convergence of Russia and America is not far off.) > > Russia as a haven for Havenco? For digital money? For e-commerce? > > Laughable. > > --Tim May >> > --Tim May > "If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third > hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're > around." --attribution uncertain, possibly Gunner, on Usenet > > --Tim May "How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive?" --Alexander Solzhenitzyn, Gulag Archipelago

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Imagine Bob owns an ISP...
by Olav Stetter 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Hello everyone! I thought the following question might be of interest: Imagine Bob owns an ISP. Bob doesn't like government agencies very much and has (yet) no surveillence equipment installed. Alice now makes a contract with Bob that he provides internet access to Alice and she pays for it. If Bob is forced to install Carnivore-like equipment or anything of the like, he promises to tell Alice immediately. If he doesn't and Alice finds out, he has to pay [insert very large sum here] $ to Alice. Now what happens when Bob is legally (or otherwise) forced to make his network a "patriotic" one and isn't allowed to tell Alice? (as it is proposed in this "Convention on Cyber-Crime" by the European Union; at least that is my reading, which may very well be wrong; but in fact it is of no relevance here) Thanks, Olav Stetter -- Noch sind sie gleich bereit, zu weinen und zu lachen, Sie ehren noch den Schwung, erfreuen sich am Schein; Wer fertig ist, dem ist nichts rechts zu machen; Ein Werdender wird immer dankbar sein. -- Faust I, J. W. v. Goethe

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by The WirelessDeveloper Team 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

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How To Greatly Increase Your Calling Area ... [otrgg]
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05 Dec '01

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05 Dec '01

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[광고] 최신영화도 보고 영어도 배우고...
by 신태수 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

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05 Dec '01

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Re: fuel injected firearm
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

>2. Liquid propellant guns (search on that term) are well >developed for artillary, but I don't know of any light >weapons which use this. LPGs are kind of neat in >howitzer type applications because (1) A tank of >propellant & a rack of projectiles takes less space >than cased solid propellant shells, so you can carry >more ammo, and (2) you can vary the propellant >from shot to shot based on emergent conditions. One >neat hack is 'time on target' in which a series of rounds >are fired in quick succession, at different elevations and >propellant load so they all arrive at the target simultaneously. >(the LPG liquid propellant does not need an added oxidizer). > >Peter Trei Indeed. See http://yarchive.net/mil/liquid_propellant.html My ideas were more along the mono-propellent direction using hydrogen peroxide or N-Propyl Nitrate decomposed on a silver/nickel catalyst bed.

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Re: Russian Party of Pensioners Manifesto,
by mattd 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

"Non libertarian anarchy?" Libertarian socialism,anarchy.anarcho-sydicalism,green anarchy,eko Anarki yes.(Libertarian anarchy?: Redundant.) "The trouble is that a lot of socialists call themselves anarchists either as a simple cynical lie: (parody of standard commie liar) : : "This time the state really will wither away. : : Trust us. We are different. Once we have total : : power over you and yours you will love it." Yes,so? They are quite easy to expose and I pursue chomsky,Klein and others to pin them down.I oppose the state above all.The biggest most dangerous(amerdika) first.All anarchists should do the same IMHO. : "I am really opposed to concentrated authority, : : therefore when I and people like me have all the : : necessary power to do all the good we intend to : : do to those selfish ignorant ungrateful masses, : : it will be the opposite of concentrated : : authority." I AM really opposed to concentrated authority! Thats why Im an anarchist and NOT a 'libertarian' I dont seek 'necessary power' for anything except operation soft drill.I have great faith in the spontaneous altruistic enlightened grateful masses to overthrow the last empire.You sound a little bitter and twisted on this subject james,are you OK?

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