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Privilege Revoked
by Jei 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0317/news-parrish.php Privilege Revoked The government says it can pry into the attorney-client relationship all it wants. by Geov Parrish Lynne Stewart, a New York human-rights lawyer with a taste for radical politics, is accustomed to representing unpopular clients. She never dreamed it would become illegal. Stewart was in Seattle on Monday as part of a national campaign to drum up support-not for a client, but for her own case. Stewart was a member of the court-appointed defense team for Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, who is serving a life sentence in connection with the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. After his conviction, Stewart continued as one of the lawyers representing Abdel Rahman. The Seattle visit came just over a year after her arrest April 8, 2002, when she was taken from her home without warning. Federal agents combed through her office, seizing files on all of her cases, and Attorney General John Ashcroft proudly announced that Stewart had been charged in a four-count criminal indictment with aiding and abetting a terrorist organization-solely for her work in representing Abdel Rahman. Stewart's case, now winding its way through pretrial motions toward a January trial, stands as a critical test for the Bush administration's newly reserved right to violate lawyer-client confidentiality in order to wage the war on terror. It also has a significant First Amendment component. Stewart's indictment charges her with discussing Abdel Rahman's case with a Reuters reporter-even though no gag order barred her from doing so; with talking while an interpreter was speaking with her client during a consultation in his prison cell, thereby preventing the Justice Department from taping their conversation in Arabic; and with allowing the interpreter and client to speak in Arabic about nonlegal matters. If convicted, she faces 40 years in prison. THE CHARGES STRIKE at the heart of the U.S. Constitution's Sixth Amendment guarantee that all people accused of a crime are entitled to effective representation by an attorney. Courts have long held that attorney-client confidentiality is essential to that right; without the ability to speak freely about what they have, and have not, done, defendants are severely impaired from learning their legal status and options, and attorneys cannot mount the best defense. But Stewart's case has broader implications. In the future, attorneys will be less willing to represent clients like Abdel Rahman. And since Stewart's indictment, Ashcroft has gone even further, declaring noncitizens, and later, U.S. citizens as well, "enemy noncombatants" so as to hold them indefinitely without charges, denying access to any attorney at all. Whether or not the "enemy noncombatant" ruse is eventually ruled unconstitutional, Stewart's case risks setting a precedent that could literally destroy an accused terrorist's right to counsel-while allowing the government to choose who qualifies as a "terrorist." Even before 9/11, several federal provisions allowed investigators to violate attorney-client privilege: when the state had reason to believe the attorney and client were complicit in criminal behavior; as a court-approved part of international espionage; or if a court barred incarcerated clients from communicating with the outside world, including their attorneys, about nonlegal matters. BUT ASHCROFT'S provisions, announced and implemented without public notice or comment less than three weeks after 9/11, are far broader-allowing the monitoring of attorney-client conversations without a court order or supervision or even the suspicion of criminal behavior by the attorney, if the client is accused of terrorism. The regulation allows surveillance "to the extent determined to be reasonably necessary for the purpose of deterring future acts of violence or terrorism." The Department of Justice alone does the determining. Among other things, such monitoring allows the government complete access to everything the defense knows and every strategy the defense plans. It raises the possibility that attorneys could be called to testify against their clients or that attorneys could be charged for withholding information on a crime from investigators. Attorneys' personal jeopardy creates an impossible conflict of interest with their professional duty to fully represent their clients. The government, at its leisure, can target lawyers-ones like Stewart, with a long history of representing unpopular clients, or like the lead attorney in Stewart's defense, Michael Tigar, famed for saving Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols from execution. And Ashcroft's regulation, if upheld, sets a precedent that state and local jurisdictions can rush to emulate. Lynne Stewart is a guinea pig-a chance for the Bush administration to see how far it can push its evisceration of the Bill of Rights. The attack on attorney representation is only one of a staggering number of its post-9/11 assaults on the Constitution, but it's one of the most important. Invariably, the least sympathetic among us-the accused terrorists and the radical lawyers-are the first to lose basic rights. The rest of us follow. gparrish(a)seattleweekly.com

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Re: what moral obligation? (Re: DRM technology and policy)
by Major Variola (ret) 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

At 11:56 PM 4/28/03 +0100, Dave Howe wrote: >Peter Clay wrote: > >> There then comes the question of making money off devices that are >> capable of infringing copyright. This was first addressed 20 >> years ago in Sony vs. Universal, and the subsequent Congressional >> inquiry that led to the American Home Recording Act. >... and note that every blank cassette tape (and audio cdr) has a "tax" on >it to offset the assumed piracy - even if it is not used for piracy... AFAIK, not true in the US. You are from the UK, according to your address, and you haven't even freedom of speech, so its not surprising you're assumed to be guilty, and fined, without evidence. Were it true here, copyright "infringement" would be *more* than justified morally, since we'd have paid for it, under threat of violence, without even having done it. --- "What the fuck do you think you're doing" ---Madonna to Jack Valenti

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Re: what moral obligation? (Re: DRM technology and policy)
by Dave Howe 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Peter Clay wrote: > There then comes the question of making money off devices that are > capable of infringing copyright. This was first addressed 20 > years ago in Sony vs. Universal, and the subsequent Congressional > inquiry that led to the American Home Recording Act. ... and note that every blank cassette tape (and audio cdr) has a "tax" on it to offset the assumed piracy - even if it is not used for piracy...

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Re: Making Money in Digital Money
by barabbus＠hushmail.com 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

At 10:30 PM 4/28/2003 +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: >Anonymous payments for physical goods are pointless because you can't deliver them anonymously. Everyone has recognized that from the beginning.So they always envisioned them being used for information goods. Nonsense. Once a nym has developed enough reputation some (perhaps many) people will trust them to deliver physical goods in exchange for anon DM. These might be any number of gray/black market items (e.g., firearms, drugs, child porn, etc.) To help thwart stings or sell-outs, some of the buyers can intentionally provide the names and addresses of upstanding citizens (preferably those who would not want to be associated with such items or even oppose them). If LE people are doing the sales and attempt to prosecute the recipients they will only cause a tidal wave of protest against such stings which catch up innocent citizens who knew nothing about the real buyers. Sort of a legal mixmaster. Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427

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Inferno: John Brady Kiesling speaking engagement (fwd)
by Jim Choate 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:00:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Inferno: John Brady Kiesling speaking engagement from the NOWAR list: On Tuesday, April 29, from 7:00-9:00 pm, John Brady Kiesling will speak on American Moral Capital and the Misprojection of U.S. Power Kiesling, formerly Foreign Service Officer at the US embassy in Athens, resigned from the State Department in February 2003 to protest the conduct of the Administration's foreign policy and the looming war in Iraq. His letter of resignation to Secretary of State, Colin Powell, was reproduced by the New York Times and rapidly circulated around the globe as a cry for preserving America's endangered international legitimacy. He has just returned to the U.S. from Athens, and will discuss the reasons for his protest and offer insights into the future of American foreign policy. Mr. Kiesling was a diplomat for 20 years, serving in Greece, Armenia, Morocco and Israel. He holds a Masters degree in Ancient History and Mediterranean Archeology from UC Berkeley. Location: UT Campus, Painter Hall 3.02 (on 24th St. between Guadalupe & Speedway) For info: Contact Katharine @ 459-8070 Here is Kiesling's letter of resignation to Colin Powell: http://truthout.org/docs_03/030103A.shtml

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Re: Mike Hawash, Rev N.
by Major Variola (ret) 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

At 07:06 PM 4/29/03 -0700, Tim May wrote: >Gee, I also have a beard, and a copy of the Koran, And if you don't personally have hypochlorites, you know people who do. >I hope the Fedz never learn that I have ricin and There are Castor plants on the Central Expresway north of Santa Clara. Clearly within your grasp. And that lye you supposedly use to clear your drains, yeah right. >sarin formulas on my computer, So, that tin-flouride in your so-called toothpaste is for apatite-strengthening? Yeah, right. This boy was on the same terrorist mailing list as a known chem-terrorist, and IRS-unslave JBell. And known antisocialite, JY. And you probably have isopropanol in your so-called "bathroom". Lithium metal in so-called "batteries". Speed-precursors in so-called "decongestants". Radioisotopes in so-called "salt-substitutes". And allah knows how many Ca-illegal rice flails. "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible to live without breaking laws." -- Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged" --- SARS is Alallah's way of saying there are too many chinese, like HIV is is the polytheistist way of saying too many Africans. And Anthrax is a Federalist way of saying too many mailmen. Hogg taught percolation, but no one was listening. "Sometimes god hides." -Fripp

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NOWAR - Kiesling, Antiwar Teach-Ins, Showdown in Texas, and More (fwd)
by Jim Choate 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 08:06:04 -0500 From: NOWAR <worker-nowar(a)lists.tao.ca> To: nowar(a)lists.tao.ca Subject: NOWAR - Kiesling, Antiwar Teach-Ins, Showdown in Texas, and More Hello, all. After a temporary hiatus, the nowar list is back, with many events to announce. Please note the two new listings -- a teach-in on the connection between U.S. interventionism and democracy and one on the Texas Military-Industrial Complex. On Tuesday, April 29, from 7:00-9:00 pm, John Brady Kiesling will speak on American Moral Capital and the Misprojection of U.S. Power Kiesling, formerly Foreign Service Officer at the US embassy in Athens, resigned from the State Department in February 2003 to protest the conduct of the Administration's foreign policy and the looming war in Iraq. His letter of resignation to Secretary of State, Colin Powell, was reproduced by the New York Times and rapidly circulated around the globe as a cry for preserving America's endangered international legitimacy. He has just returned to the U.S. from Athens, and will discuss the reasons for his protest and offer insights into the future of American foreign policy. Mr. Kiesling was a diplomat for 20 years, serving in Greece, Armenia, Morocco and Israel. He holds a Masters degree in Ancient History and Mediterranean Archeology from UC Berkeley. Location: UT Campus, Painter Hall 3.02 (on 24th St. between Guadalupe & Speedway) For info: Contact Katharine @ 459-8070 On Tuesday, April 29 at 7:00 pm, Madison Hobley, freed from Illinois' Death Row, will speak as part of a national tour calling for an end to the death penalty. Also speaking will be Madison's sister Robin Hobley; Marlene Martin, national director of the Campaign to End the Death Penalty, and UT Law Professor Rob Owen. Location: Utopia Theater (in the School of Social Work at the University of Texas), San Jacinto between MLK and 21st St. For info: email lilymae30(a)hotmail.com or call 494-0667. On Wednesday, April 30, at 7:00 pm, there will be a teach-in on "Enhancing Democracy? Why the U.S. Military Won't Bring Democracy to the World." Speakers include UT History Professor Geoffrey Schad, speaking on Syria; Communications Professor Dana Cloud; and Rahul Mahajan of the Nowar Collective, author of the forthcoming "Full Spectrum Dominance: U.S. Power in Iraq and Beyond" (http://www.sevenstories.com/Book/index.cfm?GCOI=58322100353810) Location: UT Campus, Gearing 105 (Gearing is just west of Welch Hall). On Saturday, May 3, the Showdown in Texas commences (other related events will already be in progress -- see http://www.showdowntx.com/html/schedule.html) The Showdown rally is a demand for human security, not "homeland" security: funding for healthcare, housing, education and jobs; environmental sustainability; protection of civil liberties for citizens, immigrants and indigenous peoples, a moratorium on the death penalty, and an end to US military interventions and war at home and abroad. Starting at 11:00 am at least 6 issue marches starting in different locations (see http://www.showdowntx.com/html/schedule.html for details) will converge at the Capitol at High Noon for an opening rally. This rally will be followed by a mass march past some of the top defense industry contractors located in downtown Austin and end up back at the Capitol for a Festival of Love and Resistance. Except where otherwise noted, events are free and open to the public. Please forward where appropriate. On Sunday, May 4, from 6:00-8:00pm, there will be a teach-in on "The Texas Military-Industrial Complex: Profiting from War and Occupation." This event is associated with the Showdown. Speakers will talk about Lockheed Martin, Dyncorp, the role of oil in the Military-Industrial Complex, and the connection of Texas to the occupations of Palestine and Iraq. Location: UT Campus, Jester Auditorium, 21st and Speedway, across Speedway from the Perry-Castaneda Library. All events are free and open to the public. Please forward where appropriate. In Solidarity, the Nowar Collective

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ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and action t aken.
by Bill Frantz 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

>Return-Path: <USPTO-IS-109-SA(a)USPTO.GOV> >Received: from mail1.uspto.gov ([63.71.228.70]) > by augustus.mspring.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with ESMTP id >vaudcm.hqt.37kbpol > for <frantz(a)pwpconsult.com>; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:31:50 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from uspto-mta-2.uspto.gov (mailer.uspto.gov [10.96.26.47]) > by mail1.uspto.gov (8.9.3 (PHNE_26304)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16704 > for <frantz(a)pwpconsult.com>; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:34:01 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by mailer.uspto.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) > id <JYBSJ4CH>; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:31:48 -0400 >Message-ID: <8D41CD9393D61B4193D5892E1C455B6C0466554C(a)uspto-is-109.uspto.gov> >From: USPTO-IS-109-SA(a)USPTO.GOV >To: frantz(a)pwpconsult.com >Subject: ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and action t > aken. >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:31:47 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) >Content-Type: text/plain > >Trend SMEX Content Filter has detected sensitive content. > >Place = timcmay(a)got.net; cypherpunks(a)lne.com; ; >Sender = frantz(a)pwpconsult.com >Subject = Re: Making Money in Digital Money >Delivery Time = April 29, 2003 (Tuesday) 22:31:46 >Policy = Dirty Words >Action on this mail = Quarantine message > >Warning message from administrator: >Sender, Content filter has detected a sensitive e-mail. Because Tim used the phrase, "give me a fucking break!". Cheers - Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Due process for all | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | used to be the | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)pwpconsult.com | American way. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Osama wins
by Major Variola (ret) 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

Most U.S. Troops to Leave Saudi Arabia PRINCE SULTAN AIR BASE, Saudi Arabia - In a major shift in American focus in the Persian Gulf, the United States is all but ending its military presence in Saudi Arabia, abandoning this remote desert air base that was built in the 1990s and made the site of a high-tech air operations center in 2001. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=4&u=/ap/20030… And the Minister of Fatherland Security shows his bravery: WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tom Rich planned a family vacation to Britain but changed his mind after the deadly poison ricin turned up in a London apartment during the arrest of terrorist suspects. "I just don't think it's the right time to go," says Rich, of Duxbury, Mass. "I don't think we'll do anything this summer." http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TRAVEL_ANXIETY?SITE=FLTAM&SECTIO… Father and I went down to camp, Along with Colin Powell; And there we saw the men and boys, As thick as oil most foul. Sheik Osama, keep it up, Sheik Osama dandy; Mind the music and the step, And with the planes be handy. There was Gen'l Tommy Franks Upon a slapping stallion, A-giving orders to his men, I guess there was a million. And then the feathers on his hat, They looked so' tarnal fin-a, I wanted pockily to get To give to my Jemima. And then we saw a tomahawk, Large as a log of maple; Upon a deuced little cart, A load for father's cattle. And every time they shoot it off, It takes a horn of powder; It makes a noise like father's gun, Only a nation louder. I went as nigh to one myself, As' Siah's underpinning; And father went as nigh agin, I thought the deuce was in him. We saw a little barrel, too, The heads were made of leather; They knocked upon it with little clubs, And called the folks together. And there they'd fife away like fun, And play on cornstalk fiddles, And some had ribbons red as blood, All bound around their middles. The rangers, too, would gallop up And fire right in our faces; It scared me almost to death To see them run such races. Uncle Sam came there to change Some noni and some onions, For' lasses cake to carry home To give his wife and young ones. But I can't tell half I see They kept up such a smother; So I took my hat off, made a bow, And scampered home to mother. Cousin Rumsfeld grew so bold, I thought he would have cocked it; It scared me so I streaked it off, And hung by father's pocket. And there I saw a pumpkin shell, As big as mother's basin; And every time they touched it off, They scampered like the nation. Sheik Osama, keep it up, Sheik Osama dandy; Mind the music and the step, And with the girls be handy

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Re: Mike Hawash
by Tyler Durden 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

Yeah. This occurred to me on the way home from work. The guy potentially thinks about fighting the US on foreign soil and then changes his mind, and now he's a terrorist. AND...this is what the government's actually bothering to put into print. Bad. -(The REAL) Tyler Durden >From: Tim May <timcmay(a)got.net> >To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com >Subject: Re: Mike Hawash >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:12:40 -0700 > >On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 02:09 PM, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > >>At 03:10 PM 4/29/03 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: >>>OK, aside from the obvious problems with being held without charge >>until >>>now, there are some other major issues here. >>> >>>Apparently, the guy is only being charged with traveling to China in an >> >>>attempt to enter Afghanistan and fight US forces. >> >>According to 1 "informant", who is getting *what* in return? >> >>Buying a parka and flying is not treason. Even trying to enter .af is >>not illegal. >>(And congress never did declare war there, did they?) >>Shooting off guns in a quarry is not illegal. >>Going to the same church as folks who pled is not illegal. >> >>Clearly, he was given a deal, while in illegal custody, cooperate or we >>file charges. >>He didn't, so they did. If they had charges to begin with, they >>needn't have >>held him illegally. > >He was an illegal combatant because he did not actually enter a country we >were not actually at war with, whose government was not actually the force >behind the 9/11 attack. > >Using the psychics employed by the CIA, America has deduced that he may >have been _thinking_ about entering Afghanistan, even though he didn't. > >And that's enough for a thoughtcrime conviction in the beknighted states. > >The case is so weak he'll hang himself in his jail cell. > >--Tim May _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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