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Re: What if all things computable are computable in polynomial time?
by Major Variola (ret) 08 Aug '03

08 Aug '03

At 02:16 PM 8/6/03 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >> >What if all things computable are computable in polynomial time? > >We wouldn't have to go back to OTP, just symmetric-key keyservers >which people used before public-key became well-known. > >While the public-key algorithms are based on math problems like >factoring or discrete log, most of the symmetric-key algorithms >are based on intractable ugliness, and on doing enough analysis >to find out which kinds of ugliness and bit-twiddling are really >intractable and which can be cracked. Yes, but the cryptanalysis of symmetric ciphers involves exponentially-expanding "back trees". That is the whole point of "avalanche". If, somehow, "for any NP algorithm there were an equivalent P algorithm", then the block-cipher backtracking would be solvable in poly time. You could find the plaintext ASCII needle in the haystack of possibilities in poly time, no? .... Rambling Aside: RSA encryption is equivalent to spinning a marker on a modulus-sized wheel until it wraps, and decryption is equivalent to spinning the marker more until it points to the original message. "Spinning" is actually exponentiating, ie, advancing the marker some number of positions which depends on its current value. Beautiful stuff, only glimpses visible to this knave. Like IDEA, multiplication is avalanche. ------ "The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance." -Robert R. Coveyou ORNL mathematician

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Judge Tightens Oversight of NYPD After Anti-War Interrogations (fwd)
by Jim Choate 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

I think the judges commentary is most revealing ;) http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAJQE883JD.html -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage(a)ssz.com jchoate(a)open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Ashcroft snuffs free speech, film at 11
by Major Variola (ret.) 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

Film Wholesaler Charged With Obscenity The U.S. Justice Department said that its 10-count indictment against Extreme Associates and its owners is part of a renewed enforcement of federal obscenity laws. Federal prosecutors said today they have charged a North Hollywood wholesaler of adult films with violating federal obscenity laws as the government steps up a campaign against the major distributors of adult entertainment. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-080703obscene_lat,1,708205.story?coll=… Of course there are limits in regards to freedom of speech. They are as follows: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Everything else is, of course, allowed. -Sunder

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RE: So, if Arnold wins can he claim Total Recall ;-)
by Trei, Peter 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

I'm trying to envisage the candidate's debate lineup. So far, among others, we have Ahhhnold Gary Coleman (yes! really!) Larry Flynt -------------- Peter (not a candidate)

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So, if Arnold wins can he claim Total Recall ;-)
by Steve Schear 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship." --Alexander Fraser Tyler

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Can't free "Mike" anymore. He copped a plea
by Sunder 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93944,00.html 7 years instead of over 20. http://www.freemikehawash.org/ ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ <--*-->:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD. \|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! --------_sunder_(a)_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------

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Black folks.
by Tyler Durden 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

Tim May wrote... "Where did this "of color" nonsense get started?" Like a lot of PC terms...from guilt-ridden white liberals. Black folks never use this term, as far as I've ever heard. Likewise with "physically challenged". My black karate Sensei used to periodically laugh at the shame and embarassment associated with any speech "coloration"...to the point where some people won't even mention skin color when describing another person. -TD >From: Tim May <timcmay(a)got.net> >To: cypherpunks(a)lne.com >Subject: Colored people >Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:39:16 -0700 > >On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 08:39 PM, Mac Norton wrote: > >>There was a weapons charge as well, which will always complicate matters >>considerably. The unconventional life is a more or less fine thing until >>it gets perpendicular to the conventional life, usually in the form of law >>enforcement agents. When that happens, and it almost surely will, what is >>necessary is a relatively big bunch of money, or a plea bargain. >> >>What happened here is happening to young men (yes, usually men, and as in >>this case, of color) > >Where did this "of color" nonsense get started? > >I thought colored people wanted to be called by other names, now they and >their whiteliberal supporters are routinely using the silly name "people of >color." > >(Of course, we live in an age where homosexuals call themselves "queers" >and propagate the name--Queer Nation, Queers of Color, Queer Eye for the >Pervert Guy, etc.--and yet file lawsuits when others call them queers. And >we live in an age where negroes call themselves and other negroes "niggers" >and name their minstrel acts "Niggaz with Attitude" but then insist that >persons of whiteness call them "NWA" so as not to use the "offensive" >"N-word.") > >If the coloreds want to be called that, fine with me. > > >--Tim May _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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BYU News: Death of writing systems linked to viability of civilizations (fwd)
by Jim Choate 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

http://byunews.byu.edu/releases/release.aspx?y=archive03&m=Aug&f=Houstonpho… -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage(a)ssz.com jchoate(a)open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Boston Globe Online / Much ado about data (fwd) (Linguistic Analysis)
by Jim Choate 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/217/science/Much_ado_about_data+.shtml -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage(a)ssz.com jchoate(a)open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[eff-austin] UTSA sponsoring Texas Security Symposium (fwd)
by Jim Choate 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 06:14:53 +0000 Subject: [eff-austin] UTSA sponsoring Texas Security Symposium UTSA sponsoring Texas Security Symposium The University of Texas at San Antonio Center for Infrastructure Assurance and Security (CIAS) is sponsoring a Texas Security Symposium on Aug. 8 in the Laurel Room of the University Center at the school's Loop 1604 campus. Speaking at the symposium will be Robert Weaver, deputy special agent in charge of the New York Electronic Crimes Task Force for the United State Secret Service. At the symposium topics covered include reports on the state of Texas' infrastructure protection, security exercises and the "Dark Screen" project. Breakout sessions will be offered in both executive and technical tracks. In 2001 CIAS was established to leverage San Antonio's infrastructure assurance strengths and to bolster research and educational initiatives in this field. The multidisciplinary research center partners with the San Antonio community to address the technical and policy issues of information assurance. The registration cost of the daylong conference is $100. For more information and to register for symposium, visit the CIAS web site at http://www.utsa.edu/cias. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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