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Re: List for discussing many majordomos
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Greg Broiles wrote: > At 06:59 PM 2/11/97 -0600, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > > >We can coordinate our efforts. Actually, we can even have a mini > >mailing list for people who want to participate in the distributed > >cypherpunks experiment. If there is any interest, I can create such > >a list. > > Yes, this is a good idea. One of the proponents of the "many majordomos" > project apparently has plans to impose his own ideas about intellectual > property on the project, and this seems like a pretty serious thing for a > setup that's allegedly going to prevent censorship. We need a place to > discuss this. I have acreated a mailing list, cypherpunks-hosts(a)algebra.com, for people interested in participating in the multi-homed cypherpunks list. You can subscribe to cypherpunks-hosts by talking to majordomo(a)algebra.com. - Igor.

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Re: Germany Versus Scientology
by Jeremiah A Blatz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Evil se7en <se7en(a)dis.org> writes: > I have posted a rather lengthy story about Germany's war against the > Scientologists. It was long enough to preclude mailing it directly to the > lists, so I have put it on my web site. You may find it at: > > http://www.dis.org/se7en/ > > with the link being directly under the large "X." I decided to post it > for the reasons that I know several people who suffered directly at the > hands of the Scientologists after trying to infiltrate their organization > via the Internet. These people will recieve this message due to this > posting. Enjoy. Heh, the top German Gov't anti-$cientoligist: "The state is obliged to protect its citizens from totalitarian organizations." I just love this whole thing. It's like two neighborhood bullies going at it in the school yard. It doesn't matter who wins, as long as it's long and bloody. Jer "standing on top of the world/ never knew how you never could/ never knew why you never could live/ innocent life that everyone did" -Wormhole -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBMwFSnckz/YzIV3P5AQH/DwL/aX8VIWcSo7JqQuxL3EgyqOnOyYikRlTh irV8YtXhDlsqbVaZDIPoweE5viibrR0ZrfuCqRm4oClGRvttSJdPxTN5iY5ry+HQ 6HFgT3zWxOH5OSyg/8tz2oVirtCOoGD/ =L0xY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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List for discussing many majordomos
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 06:59 PM 2/11/97 -0600, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: >We can coordinate our efforts. Actually, we can even have a mini >mailing list for people who want to participate in the distributed >cypherpunks experiment. If there is any interest, I can create such >a list. Yes, this is a good idea. One of the proponents of the "many majordomos" project apparently has plans to impose his own ideas about intellectual property on the project, and this seems like a pretty serious thing for a setup that's allegedly going to prevent censorship. We need a place to discuss this. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQEVAgUBMwFm8f37pMWUJFlhAQE4uQf/RfjKd++IRYJZyLPRqsh150098IgMY4oE GITsrs9S4N/mCRzjPUYLDmDKmEkGlN3UilQsMVT7QiPA7vxpw3yvOgWEATXMRWo6 46BRFhKHbKupy6uVCbfrNiXRa76JSdWisxi9NzwJK7jmj5g8SsEJW1Z4pij5VYVJ Ck4mVziejIE/uyQ4hzenbS2ZN+EEApoF5dxVbS5rvlk/HEcUxJMUvuoxXiVm+fFQ gs59X/Yj4WtUCNb6STH89Qwdr2RdtK5yvqvP56cMNudIcdK28K/hiEXWtkCSueLu XU1aa02TQMn/oA24iGYpUF9gnjsGgieIJSx7VB96uE9UsOg6i71mIA== =ILiw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |

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Cypherpunks-related lists on toad.com
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, John - thanks for supporting and putting up with us all these years. How do you feel about continuing support for the cypherpunks-related lists that are also on toad.com, coderpunks and cypherpunks-announce? I'd guess that if we move the cypherpunks list to another machine, rather than mutating it into alt.cypherpunks, the -announce list should probably also move once the new list is working. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Re: Shade Disk Encryptor for NT Registration key
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>SoftWinter Support >softwinter(a)post1.com >http://softwinter.bitbucket.co.il Shade looks like an interesting product, and anything that fits into 64K these days (even if that is the size of the zip file) deserves some respect :-) For cypherpunks - it's using MDC as its crypto algorithm, with 160-bit SHA as the hash. I can't tell if that's the original SHA or the revised SHA-1. The readme.txt is adapted from Peter Gutmann's MDC documentation. The demo version runs for 21 days, and doesn't do encryption, so perhaps the real thing is a bit larger. List price is $149 US. I couldn't get it to run - I'm using NT 3.51, which you haven't tested it on, rather than NT 4.0; it complained about not being able to find Image_List_SetImageCnt in COMCTL32.dll or something like that. Perhaps that's related to not having installation instructions with the demo? there's a SecDisk.sys that looks like it wants something done with it... Or perhaps it's just a 3.51 vs. 4.0 difference. Oh, well... > Shade allows you to create encrypted disk device inside a file. > Such a device can then be formated using any file system > (like NTFS or FAT) and used as a regular disk. The only difference > is that Shade will encrypt the data on every write operation > and decrypt it on every read operation. I assume it's possible to use this for TEMP directories for applications like word processors. I'm not sure I'd want to use it for swap, but do you know if that would work? # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Re: List! No Way: Creati
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -=> Quoting In:attila@primenet.com to Harka <=- In> I vote we just set up a new majordomo with some additional In> antispam filters including knocking out exploding mail headers, In> etc. I would accept excluding non-members as long as we take the In> remailers which are listed with either JP or RL. Were it possible to use Perry's PGPDomo, which would effectively keep out at least the Spammers? Perry? :) Ciao Harka /*************************************************************/ /* This user supports FREE SPEECH ONLINE ...more info at */ /* and PRIVATE ONLINE COMMUNICATIONS! --> http://www.eff.org */ /* E-mail: harka(a)nycmetro.com (PGP-encrypted mail preferred) */ /* PGP public key available upon request. [KeyID: 04174301] */ /* F-print: FD E4 F8 6D C1 6A 44 F5 28 9C 40 6E B8 94 78 E8 */ /*<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*/ /* May there be peace in this world, may all anger dissolve */ /* and may all living beings find the way to happiness... */ /*************************************************************/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAgUBMv/y/zltEBIEF0MBAQEnBQf/UVcg/iFUtR3hMk2zrNwZmweqE4XA3cLy ixfNNGoKO6cP0oUnSrqRoWW4LtMrHamMldBMXmFARmkh3joqgFZpzXSwCbiCSFtv yN7tDOmfzvDfI4gRpohuc7ou3rMMlbjs/lZamJAV5iByE8Kh3/phcvOmb5u9zjWK m/bcLsje39fLpIeMHL3y0jYf4Z5wyvb4dndBVeF+m50IguT9hVd3KZ4hza2XiKQr zPkX1Y2uDW1vq9/m2Wd9PLxnio5hrbOuLHdVFzTUxcVBfnJjMB0rrexW3z/2KqJ8 4V0r3xZXqui5z6k55PQTrVZt9Hqb+zVDoDAAA/tzMfHpVU+MOnM3Xg== =Jtwu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption...

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Re: Moderation experiment almost over; "put up or shut up"
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back wrote: > > > Igor Chudov <ichudov(a)algebra.com> writes: > > so we have myself, Jim Choate, and you who colunteer to host > > mailing lists for the distributed cypherpunks. > > > > I have already created majordomo(a)algebra.com and cypherpunks(a)algebra.com. > > > > We can coordinate our efforts. Actually, we can even have a mini > > mailing list for people who want to participate in the distributed > > cypherpunks experiment. If there is any interest, I can create such > > a list. > > Please do. The list is called cypherpunks-hosts(a)algebra.com. Use majordomo(a)algebra.com to sub-scri-be. - Igor.

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Network of majordomos (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:09:22 -0800 > From: Greg Broiles <gbroiles(a)netbox.com> > Subject: Network of majordomos > > I still think you're just rediscovering Usenet technology. Instead of > installing Majordomo, why not install INN, pass traffic as newsgroup(s) (if > you don't like alt.cypherpunks, you could simply start your own top-level > cpunks group(s)), and leave your NNTP port(s) open (or read-only, if you're > an evil CIA brain-stealing censor) so that cpunks at large could connect with > newsreaders or their own servers and send/rcv newsgroup traffic? Many cpunks > could do this (instead of using Majordomo) locally, connecting to each other > to achieve wide propagation and low latency. > > And, if you must, run mail-to-news gateway(s) which send the newsgroup to > people who want it as E-mail. > > Usenet technology does exactly what you're describing: it's a distributed > database of messages designed to facilitate each server getting its own copy > of every message, and holding it locally for distribution to interested > readers. Other people have been kind enough to write, debug, and document the > software - all you have to do is install it. This could be running tonight. Did you get it running last nite Greg? When do you expect to be able to handle traffic? Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com

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Re: Recommendation: Creation of "alt.cypherpunks" (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:48:05 -0800 > From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: Recommendation: Creation of "alt.cypherpunks" > Since posting my comments I've just seen the proposal that tivoli may host > a list. Fine with me. But I wonder how long Tivoli and its parent company, > IBM, will tolerate such things as postings of dumpster divings at Mykotronx > and RSADSI, of deliberate slams against Tivoli products (a la the case John > Gilmore referred to this morning), postings about assassination markets, > and so on. Whoah Nelly. Tivoli - IBM has NOTHING to do with either my actions or those of anyone else involved in this. Where exactly did you get this information? It certainly hasn't come across any cpunks postings that I have seen. Check your facts bud. Jim Choate CyberTects (not Tivoli -IBM) ravage(a)ssz.com

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John Gilmore the fascist cocksucker
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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