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test new web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

look at my page and tell me how you like it if you dont like it please tell Mr.Angry , just click on the un happy face on that page for a quicker reply PhReAkInG iS a ViOlEnT pOiSoN. iT cAnNoT Be ApPlIeD eXtErNaLlY tO aNiMaL oR hUmAn TiSsUe WiThOuT sErIoUs InJuRiOuS rEsUlTs. It CaNnOt Be TaKeN iNtErNaLlY wItHoUt InDuCiNg VoMiTtInG, bLiNdNeSs, AnD GeNeRaL pHySiCaLlY uLtImAtElLy ReSuLtInG iN dEaTh. PhReAk ThE pLaNeT--http://www.angelfire.com/ne/PhreakThePlanet/index.html PhIbErDeLiC PhReAkEr

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Re: Anyone considered adding crypto into Microsoft Outlook?
by Matthew J. Miszewski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> It just struck me that it would probably make the most convenient >platform for integrating cryptography. After all MAPI is an open, extensible >API allowing ready access to the email "hooks" necessary. The integration of >an address book with the email system makes it very easy to add public key >information into a person's entry. > > I'm not sure whether PGP or MOSS would be the most compatible format. >Its quite possible that S/MIME would be more appropriate. I am currently using the new EPPI DLL for Eudora 3.0. It integrates PGP almost seamlessly. I have had no problems at all ... yet. > It seems to me however that the main thing stopping the use of crypto has been the pretty weedy interfaces. I'm afraid the MH hacks just don't cut it. It seems to me that a downloadable plug-in would be very popular. I know a lot of lawyers who would jump at the chance to use email but realize they have to have crypto. > > The main problem so far seems to be the impenetrability of the MAPI documentation. Does anyone know of a usable reference or which of the gazillion Microsoft Developer network CDs one can find more information? hehe. I totally agree. MS = MaSsive Confusion. > > Phill Matt

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Re: testing new Home Web site
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: scholars.bellevue.edu(a)ns.ccsn.edu, Banshee(a)evil-empire.com, phiberdelic(a)mailmasher.com, phiberdelic(a)hotmail.com, phreaker(a)scholars.bellevue.edu, phreaker(a)scholars.bellevue.edu, phiberdelic(a)hotmail.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed Dec 04 23:04:24 1996 Phiberelic Phreaker wrote, repeatedly... > try this site and tell me how you like it > if you dont like it then message Mr.Angry on that page ... [gibberish] Ok, Perry. I guess we're all coming over to your list now. <sigh> JMR Regards, Jim Ray DNRC Minister of Encryption Advocacy One of the "legitimate concerns of law enforcement" seems to be that I was born innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around. -- me Please note new 2000bit PGPkey & address <jmr(a)shopmiami.com> PGP id.A7D63DA9 98 1F 39 BA 93 86 B4 F5 57 52 64 0E DA BA 2C 71 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEPAwUBMqZJ0jUhsGSn1j2pAQEzUwfPVVsmLa2kGRrHqxk1jur6Ckg+hJAVhk5x e6sNSen8Txa8jTy4noQmPFbekte/628Ig3zd0OvomsGSv0Cp6l9smHOOWZGA74lw 4XgQWyEz05V/twm0mec5M2MNBkOr12rTC4nIQG6zgRz2XJLpqs0ij8/WDLvOW1/w zZT168ijF8UlQx/BneJfN4tgC3+KuSFqC6g7Hxz/Br+ZhQ3Zo8ptk+zdNbnjYwHS 61WmQ3m40dOhxflmaSxsE1jtLLWqTAJgbQN65VsJxRmUG6aYvfv8Q4Y7YZ4alGr5 CApU5eEat5lbkl3HcapG/4GYv3XfUvrnEL/TbMjmjJUqhg== =lKHY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: PRIVACY: X-No-Archive and mail.cypherpunks
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:24 AM 12/3/1996, Timothy C. May wrote: >At 10:15 AM -0600 12/3/96, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > >>This is primarily addressed to the person who supports cypherpunks >>mail-to-news gateway. If you know who such person is, please send >>his/her address to me. >.... >>I am opposed to seeing my articles showing up in DejaNews and other >>search engines. All my emails and usenet postings have this header >>line. However, when cypherpunks-to-newsgroup gateway reposts all >>articles, it strips this header line. I believe it to be a mistake >>and hope that it will be corrected. > >Igor raises an important point. > >I believe he is misguided in his expectation that his public utterances in >a forum containing at least 1200 readers (and probably more, through >gateways, etc.) that he can limit uses of his posts. Any recipient of his >public utterances may choose to quote them in other articles, forward them >to friends, archive them on his own disks, etc. > > ... > >In a free society it is impossible to control what people do with material >given to them. The best means of protecting one's writings is not to >distribute them. It is unlikely that anybody is going to pay money for our postings, even Igor's postings. Copyright is not the issue. Perhaps, Igor is worried about the unpredictable consequences of his posts being readable by anybody, anywhere, forever. The solution to that problem is straightforward and I leave it as an exercise. Red Rackham

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Re: "Just call the police"...yeah, right
by logos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Timothy C. May wrote: > Saying "just call the police" strikes me as being one of > the most absurd things I've ever heard on this list. > > (If I receive a "Logos-gram" warning me I am being > unpolite, you know where it'll go.) The name of the informal logical fallacy Tim May has *not* made is 'argumentum ad hominem' (literally, 'an argument to the man'; attacking one's opponent rather than dealing with the subject under discussion; aka name calling). Having said that, while Tim May has not committed a logical fallacy, neither has he advanced a logical argument. He has merely stated his conclusory opinion of the other person's comment. By itself, it adds little or nothing of substance to the argument. Logos out

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Re: testing
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Eric Murray wrote: > Phiberelic Phreaker writes: > > > > PhReAkInG iS a ViOlEnT pOiSoN. iT cAnNoT Be ApPlIeD > > eXtErNaLlY tO aNiMaL oR hUmAn TiSsUe WiThOuT sErIoUs InJuRiOuS > > rEsUlTs. It CaNnOt Be TaKeN iNtErNaLlY wItHoUt InDuCiNg VoMiTtInG, > > bLiNdNeSs, AnD GeNeRaL pHySiCaLlY uLtImAtElLy ReSuLtInG iN dEaTh. > > PhReAk ThE pLaNeT--http://www.angelfire.com/ne/PhreakThePlanet/index.html > > > Evidently "PhReAkInG" causes uncontrollable ourbursts of CaPiTaLiZaTiOn due > to horrible shift-key spasms... > > > > PhIbErDeLiC PhReAkEr > > You probably want alt.2600, it'll be more your style. > BTW, you've posted the same fucking message 4 times now. > Plonk. 4 only? We have received over 30 copies of this shit.

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No Subject
by logos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dimitri Vulis wrote: > Lame losers who call themselves "cypher punks" and bend > over for John Gilmore. It is obvious that you, Dimitri Vulis, intend to be disruptive to the operation of this list. I have politely asked you several specific questions about your motives. I am politely asking you again, Dimitri Vulis, why are you unwilling to rationally and politely discuss whatever grievances you have with specific Cypherpunks? I believe you are capable of rational discourse, you allegedly have some academic credentials so you must have a passing familiarity with formal debate. Why are you unwilling to join this discussion with anything other than immature insults? If the facts are on your side, a reasonable demeanor can only enhance your arguments. If the facts are not on your side, why can you not graciously admit you are wrong and withdraw your accusations. I have been unfailingly polite to you. Do you have it within your character to respond to me in kind? Thank you for your attentions to this matter. Logos out

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[NO CRYPTO] Recommended reading.
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The current (Dec 2) issue of Forbes is a special - the cover article is 'Cyber power gives financial markets a veto over the President and Congress', by Peter Huber. This has already been covered in this list. However, the real prize is a second complete magazine included with the Forbes in a plastic bag - the premiere issue of Forbes ASAP: "The Big Issue - Where do we go from here?", which contains 53 essays from various commentators on the significance and future of the techno revolution. I haven't finished it yet, but found the essays by Tom Wolfe on the social implications of neuroscience and Mark Helprin on life's accelerating pace superb. Other authors include: Gingrich, Fukuyama, Nader, Simon Schama, Rifkin, Esther Dyson, Al Goldstein, Buckley, Paglia, Gates, Negroponte,, Richard Leakey, Steven Weinberg, Brokaw, Limbaugh, Huber, and George Gilder, among others. Highly recommended! Peter Trei Senior Software Engineer Purveyor Development Team Process Software Corporation http://www.process.com trei(a)process.com

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no subject (file transmission)
by captain.sarcastic 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com Wed Dec 4 11:22:29 1996 Received: from RES2.RESNET.UPENN.EDU (root(a)RES2.RESNET.UPENN.EDU [130.91.195.242]) by mail1.panix.com (8.7.5/8.7.1/PanixM1.0+) with ESMTP id LAA14598 for <kkoller(a)panix.com>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (poboxer.pobox.com [207.8.188.2]) by RES2.RESNET.UPENN.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13349 for <kkoller(a)RES2.RESNET.UPENN.EDU>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:23:19 -0500 Received: from toad.com (toad.com [140.174.2.1]) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA24598 for <kkoller(a)sarcasm.com>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:21:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA12176 for cypherpunks-outgoing; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 04:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from uu.psi.com (uu.psi.com [136.161.128.3]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA12170 for <cypherpunks(a)toad.com>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 04:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA25881 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 96 07:26:15 -0500 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 04 Dec 96 06:51:51 EST for cypherpunks(a)toad.com To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: Anyone considered adding crypto into Microsoft Outlook? From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) Comments: All power to the ZOG! Message-Id: <9PueyD62w165w(a)bwalk.dm.com> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 96 06:50:07 EST In-Reply-To: <01BBE14A.04580F10(a)crecy.ai.mit.edu> Organization: Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y. Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk "Phillip M. Hallam-Baker" <hallam(a)ai.mit.edu> writes: > It just struck me that it would probably make the most convenient = > platform for integrating cryptography. After all MAPI is an open, = > extensible API allowing ready access to the email "hooks" necessary. The = > integration of an address book with the email system makes it very easy = > to add public key information into a person's entry. Yes, this would be feasible. Problem is, "cypher punks" don't write code. They only write flames and postmaster complaints. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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no subject (file transmission)
by captain.sarcastic 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com Wed Dec 4 11:52:55 1996 Received: from RES2.RESNET.UPENN.EDU (root(a)RES2.RESNET.UPENN.EDU [130.91.195.242]) by mail2.panix.com (8.7.5/8.7.1/PanixM1.0) with ESMTP id LAA08214 for <kkoller(a)panix.com>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:52:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from serve.com (serve.com [206.1.57.2]) by RES2.RESNET.UPENN.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15135 for <kkoller(a)RES2.RESNET.UPENN.EDU>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:54:19 -0500 Received: from toad.com (toad.com [140.174.2.1]) by serve.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA32480 for <kkoller(a)sarcasm.com>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:47:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA12660 for cypherpunks-outgoing; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 05:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from uu.psi.com (uu.psi.com [136.161.128.3]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA12644 for <cypherpunks(a)toad.com>; Wed, 4 Dec 1996 05:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA29852 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 96 08:20:12 -0500 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 04 Dec 96 08:11:41 EST for cypherpunks(a)toad.com To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: Angel and Javier can't unsubscribe! From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) Comments: All power to the ZOG! Message-Id: <PgyeyD69w165w(a)bwalk.dm.com> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 96 08:10:48 EST In-Reply-To: <v03007801aecae3e3d400(a)[207.167.93.63]> Organization: Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y. Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk "Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> writes: <Racist garbage, this time directed at Hispanics> > I'm beginning to think that Cypherpunks appeals especially to morons. > > --Tim May Me too. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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