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Sunday NY Times anti-Clipper, FBI bill editorial
by sidney＠taurus.apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's a brief quote from a NewsBytes copyrighted article. You can surmise the rest, or go get a copy of last Sunday's NY Times. There are no new arguments in the Times editorial, but the fact that they wrote it is what's interesting: WASHINGTON, D.C., U.S.A., 1994 JUN 13 (NB) -- In a Sunday editorial, the influential New York Times has criticized both the Clinton administration's Clipper encryption scheme and the digital telephony legislation backed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). -- sidney markowitz <sidney(a)taurus.apple.com>

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RE: DNA
by Pat Farrell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In message Mon, 13 Jun 1994 18:54:10 +0200 (METDST), Mats Bergstrom <matsb(a)sos.sll.se> writes: > Databases of fingerprints and retina-images might still have a future > for specialized applications but DNA-typing (why not on a simple blood > sample at birth) combined with a fixed social security number valid for > life will probably become a widely used method for governments to control > the identity of their serfs. > [good stuff elided] > > Unfortunately there is no known method of encrypting one's DNA code > in situ but hopefully they will safely (in escrow?) encrypt it in > the databanks. This issue came up at the CFP-2 conference (Computers Freedom and Privacy, March 92 edition). There were speakers there claiming that the audience, when getting up from their chairs, would leave sufficient hair, skin flakes, sweat, etc. behind that DNA mapping would be easy. Of course, this mapping would be without the "suspect" having any knowledge of when the map material was gathered. I don't know if this was factual then, but no one rose up to claim that the speaker was in error, and there were lots of folks in the audience that could have challenged it. None did. This speach was a major motivation in my interest in these topics. That, and a chance to listen to Bruce Stirling, DED, and Jim Bidzos... Pat Pat Farrell Grad Student pfarrell(a)cs.gmu.edu Department of Computer Science George Mason University, Fairfax, VA Public key availble via finger #include <standard.disclaimer>

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Re: DNA
by VACCINIA＠UNCVX1.OIT.UNC.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Along the lines of Big Brother and your genomic heritage: No, the few cells left on your chair are not enough to provide a genomic map. Hair does, indeed, contain cells capable of being analyzed, in the follicles. PCR (polymerase chain reaction) is capable of analyzing a variety of genetic polymorphisms (genes that vary among the general population) from only a single cell. Thus you could be typed in a limited fashion and identified but not mapped. Small comfort, however, and PCR is becoming easier every day. For escaping DNA typing tests, I suggest carrying along some HeLa cell DNA (that will really screw up the test ;->. Scott G. Morham !The First, VACCINIA(a)uncvx1.oit.unc.edu! Second PGP Public Keys by Request ! and Third Levels ! of Information Storage and Retrieval !DNA, ! Biological Neural Nets, ! Cyberspace -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLfvO9j2paOMjHHAhAQElBAQA2Q+NCsYT/RxcFzIaDyWh6jRpP1672BZW MvmRccSGKUyhIz54mC19cAaS6LuB1CxyMd2L52hn3eFwaxGbg1J/G3hIrJyCJ+Da ocJGG0cmdnl1Pg7coA3vT3IWDvv58/UHeZeKYgCEbckIQEGCmvKqqMdHd6yxz+K3 TYH75tQW6bU= =HWaa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Current Remailers
by VACCINIA＠UNCVX1.OIT.UNC.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- After testing several remailers this weekend, three have given no reply. remail(a)c2.org (does this remailer support Request-Remailing-To:?) has not gotten back to me, nor has catalyst(a)netcom.com or remailer(a)rebma.mn.org. anon(a)cyberspace.org mailed me back from its mail daemon to tell me no such account, as did nowhere(a)bsu-cs.bsu.edu. The following worked: remailer(a)ds1.wu-wien.ac.at very fast remailer(a)chaos.bsu.edu very fast rperkins(a)nyx.cs.du.edu very fast hal(a)alumni.caltech.edu very fast hfinney(a)shell.portal.com very fast remail(a)extropia.wimsey.com took a couple of hrs. ghio(a)kaiwan.com very fast remail(a)vox.hacktic.nl took overnight but it's not in this country :-) Does anyone know if catalyst and rebma are still on line? Scott G. Morham !The First, VACCINIA(a)uncvx1.oit.unc.edu! Second PGP Public Keys by Request ! and Third Levels ! of Information Storage and Retrieval !DNA, ! Biological Neural Nets, ! Cyberspace -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLfvT4z2paOMjHHAhAQEwiQQA1o9hj0Ip/pWYRcOnveS54Qigfx/cuSKb uLJNW/8qvBCvmWvBabnL8Y3612HCkhyqajgiziQa4cglB/ALALyIZYkJH23xNwfp dv/o/Cn22RQvcFITRxPaMCcjZJUdJZGpDdP11vP1UboNdQHPMIFN54Nq/5XdFFgL 6AE3/hkjG+E= =UBu2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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NSA technology transfer
by Dan Harmon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following was posted on the list in the middle of May. Being curious I called the number list at Ft. Meade. The person on who answered was real shaken, for lack of a better term, that I called, it seems that this was the second inquiry that day. He wanted to know various things, like where did I get the information, was my name Bruce.... After a few minutes he finally took my name and said, to call him in a week to 10 days if I did not here from him. A few day later he called and said I needed to send a letter to expressing my interest in the technology. About 10 ten days after that I called to inquire if he received my letter and what was the next step. It seems that there had been quite a few requests and that they were trying to determine whether or not they were going to allow the technology to be transferred to individuals. The person said to call back in 4 or 5 days. I called today and they said in essence that they were not going to let individuals have a shot at it. They said that they were going to charge stiff license fees, that you would need to show a plan of how you were going to develop the product..... You get the point. It is obvious that they really don't want to transfer the technology. And if they do it will be to someone with deep pockets and who they like. I wonder where the fees that they want to charge will go, to the general treasury or to their own budget? More later. Dan Harmon On Thu, 19 May 1994, Anonymous wrote: > > > Newsgroups: sci.crypt,alt.security,alt.privacy > From: schneier(a)chinet.chinet.com (Bruce Schneier) > Subject: "Interesting Stuff" Checkers at the NSA > Message-ID: <Cq2934.q0(a)chinet.chinet.com> > Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX > Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 17:40:15 GMT > > This is from a flyer that NSA people have been distributing: > > NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY -- TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER > > Information Sorting and Retrieval by Language or Topic > > Description: This technique is an extremely simple, fast, > completely general mathod of sorting and retrieving machine- > readable text according to language and/or topic. The > method is totally independent of the particular languages or > topics of interest, and relies for guidance solely upon > exemplars (e.g., existing documents, fragments, etc.) > provided by the user. It employs no dictionaries keywords, > stoplists, stemmings, syntax, semantics, or grammar; > nevertheless, it is capable of distinguishing among closely > related toopics (previously considered inseparable) in any > language, and it can do so even in text containing a great > many errors (typically 10 - 15% of all characters). The > technique can be quickly implemented in software on any > computer system, from microprocessor to supercomputer, and > can easily be implemented in inexpensive hardware as well. > It is directly scalable to very large data sets (millions of > documents). > > Commercial Application: > > Language and topic-independent sorting and retieval of > documents satisfying dynamic criteria defined only by > existing documents. > > Clustering of topically related documents, with no > prior knowledge of the languages or topics that may be > present. It desired, this activity can automatically > generate document selectors. > > Specializing sorting tasks, such as identification of > duuplicate or near-duplicate documents in a large set. > > National Security Agency > Research and Technology Group - R > Office of Research and Technology Applications (ORTA) > 9800 Savage Road > Fort George G. Meade, MD 20755-6000 > (301) 688-0606 > > > If this is the stuff they're giving out to the public, I can only > imagine what they're keeping for themselves. > > Bruce > > ************************************************************************** > * Bruce Schneier > * Counterpane Systems For a good prime, call 391581 * 2^216193 - 1 > * schneier(a)chinet.com > ************************************************************************** > >

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Re: (None)
by Ben.Goren＠asu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:50 PM 6/13/94 -0500, Jeff Gostin wrote: >dfloyd(a)runner.utsa.edu (Douglas R. Floyd) writes: > >> How rude is it for people to post (or mail to a mailing list) anon messages >> encrypted with someone's PGP key? It makes it easy for the receiver to >> obtain it, but how irritating is it to people? > Fairly. In fact, it's considered downright rude. It's like sitting >around a table of, say, 3 people, and whispering with someone next to you. >The first person is you -- you're sending the message. The second person >is your friend -- he's recieving it. The third is me -- I'm just watching >two people whispering. Further, newsgroups are a very inappropriate place >to send private mail for propogation. Might it be appropriate, though, to create an alt group for that purpose? Sort of the digital equivalent of putting "coded" messages in the personals section of your favorite newspaper's classified section. You know--"John, you have five days to pay up" means to meet at the Ritz for dinner next Thursday, and "I love you, Sally" means to run for the border. But far, far more effective digitally. Could be especailly useful for people "in the field," considering how many universities and other places permit Usenet posting without an account, so long as your IP is considered local--easier to get access. > --Jeff b& -- Ben.Goren(a)asu.edu, Arizona State University School of Music net.proselytizing (write for info): Protect your privacy; oppose Clipper. Voice concern over proposed Internet pricing schemes. Stamp out spamming. Finger ben(a)tux.music.asu.edu for PGP 2.3a public key.

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Re: NSA technology transfer
by Ben.Goren＠asu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:21 AM 6/14/94 -0500, Dan Harmon wrote: >The following was posted on the list in the middle of May. Being >curious I called the number list at Ft. Meade. The person on who answered >was real shaken, for lack of a better term, that I called [. . . .] That's a lot better than I got when I just tried to call: no answer, not even a machine. "No Such Agency"? >Dan Harmon b& PS--Sorry for posting that last note, about the S/N ratio; it was meant to go just to Tim May, and I *do* know better...*sigh* -- Ben.Goren(a)asu.edu, Arizona State University School of Music net.proselytizing (write for info): Protect your privacy; oppose Clipper. Voice concern over proposed Internet pricing schemes. Stamp out spamming. Finger ben(a)tux.music.asu.edu for PGP 2.3a public key.

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Remailers?
by nobody＠kaiwan.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I fingered mg5n+(a)andrew.cmu.edu and got this list: > remailer(a)chaos.bsu.edu Tue Jun 14 02:18:41 EDT 1994 + 0:00:34 > nowhere(a)bsu-cs.bsu.edu Tue Jun 7 03:06:43 EDT 1994 error/mailbounce > hal(a)alumni.caltech.edu Sun Jun 12 00:36:18 EDT 1994 no response > catalyst(a)netcom.com Tue Jun 14 02:18:40 EDT 1994 + 0:01:32 > anon(a)cyberspace.org Thu Jun 9 16:40:54 EDT 1994 error/mailbounce > ghio(a)kaiwan.com Tue Jun 14 02:19:01 EDT 1994 + 0:02:30 > hfinney(a)shell.portal.com Sun Jun 12 00:36:11 EDT 1994 no response > remailer(a)rebma.mn.org Tue Jun 14 02:18:52 EDT 1994 + 2:51:28 > rperkins(a)nyx.cs.du.edu Tue Jun 14 02:19:06 EDT 1994 + 0:00:34 > remail(a)vox.hacktic.nl Tue Jun 14 02:18:57 EDT 1994 + 3:15:37 > remailer(a)ds1.wu-wien.ac.at Tue Jun 14 02:19:05 EDT 1994 + 0:00:50 > > remail(a)extropia.wimsey.com Tue Jun 14 02:19:09 EDT 1994 + 0:20:35 > remailer(a)soda.berkeley.edu Tue Jun 14 02:19:07 EDT 1994 + 2:18:38 Why so many remailers down???

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H.R. 3937
by Brian D Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: Representative Dan Glickman (D-KS) House Intelligence Committee Subject: H.R. 3937 Sir, I am writing to ask you to support the encryption provisions of H.R. 3937. The use of encryption is essential not only from a personnal privacy standpoint, it is essential to effective economic competitiveness. There are many companies around the world today who defeat American companies on contracts solely because they are able to provide more effective encryption in their products. Sincerly, Brian D Williams Ameritech Data Center 425 w Randolph Chicago, Il 60606 (312)669-2373 talon57(a)well.sf.ca.us

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alt.random.*
by ghio＠cmu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hughes(a)ah.com (Eric Hughes) wrote: | Might it be appropriate, though, to create an alt group for that purpose? | | One has already been created: alt.numbers.random | | | Check it out; it's really there, and needs some traffic. In order to | make the numbers really look random (in order to satisfy the group | charter), though, please strip off any PGP headers before posting. | | You may post factorizations of peoples public keys to | alt.numbers.prime, as well. | | Thanks to Eric Hollander for actually creating the group. The two of | us have lots more in the alt.numbers.* hierarchy. | | Er, software to effectively use this forum would be appreciated. | | Eric I couldn't find alt.numbers.random, or any alt.numbers.* groups, on any of the news-servers that I tried. Perhaps you need to newgroup it again. Yes, I really did look. I tried all of the following NNTP servers. None of them had it. I don't know where else I could look... news.belwue.de, 129.143.2.4 news.fu-berlin.de, 130.133.4.250 news.uni-stuttgart.de, 129.69.8.13 newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de 130.75.2.1 shakti.ncst.ernet.in 144.16.1.1 lsi.lsil.com 147.145.40.2 kaiwan.com 192.215.30.2 oaklabs01.apl.com 155.14.8.3 nntp.gmd.de 129.26.8.84 ccvax.ucd.ie 137.43.1.4 toads.pgh.pa.us 136.142.79.244 nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu 128.2.232.127 newserv.ksu.ksu.edu 129.130.12.21 news.demon.co.uk 158.152.254.254 news.wetware.com 192.216.52.2 ub.com 128.203.254.11 europa.eng.gtefsd.com 131.131.17.50 sol.ctr.columbia.edu 128.59.64.40

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