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DC Digest
by se7en 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What a pain in the ass! You leave town for a bit and the backlog gets insane! Anyway, http://www.dis.org/se7en/ and click on DC-Digest for those of you who wanna save your inbox. Other issues will appear tomorrow, starting with more recent, and going back to the older. All signal, no noise. Each post is hyperlinked from a table of contents, and every follow-up post is hyperlinked to the original post. All email addresses and URLs are also hyperlinked. Order is *slighty* skewed to read more coherently, and can be read from top to bottom for maximum effectiveness. Off to bed, se7en

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No Subject
by sharadid＠cbn.net.id 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Junkbusters: Invite the Government in!
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

QUOTE A direct quote from: http://www.junkbusters.com/ht/en/spam.html We think that junk email should be made illegal in the same way that junk faxes have been outlawed in the US. Unfortunately it will take lawmakers some time to get around to it, and even then spammers would probably try remailing through other jurisdictions to evade regulation. END QUOTE. I have only posted to this list RE: Internet Marketing and Spam. I have found that the general feeling runs against regulation of the internet. These Junkbuster people are crying for government intervention. The government coming into the internet is a bad idea. Therefore: Junkbusters is a bad idea. Ross =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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Reason for AP anonymity
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Astrologer released after predicting death of Venezuela president By Vivian Sequera ASSOCIATED PRESS CARACAS, Venezuela - An astrologer who predicted 80 year-old President Rafael Caldera's "death" next year was released by political police Thursday after two days of questioning in detention. Jose Bernardo Gomez, 47, said he was detained "because I spoke about the possibility of the death of President Caldera." The widely feared Department of Intelligence and Prevention Services wanted to know where Gomez At his information, he said, and whether he was connected to leftist political groups. Caldera's astrological chart ,show that "Uranus is over the sun, Pluto is in ascendancy and Mars is going behind its moon" - not a good sign for the president, Gomez told police. "I've been sustaining the possibility of the death of the president of the republic for a long time," Gomez said, adding that the word "death" is "symbolic language that could be physical or something of another order." The arrest of the rotund, boarded and jovial 47-year old philosophy professor at Venezuela Central University was treated as front-page news by the mainstream daily newspaper El Nacional and other media. Government officials, perhaps a little embarrassed, played down the incident. "He's not accused of anything," Interior Minister Jose Guillermo Andueza said tersely. Political police merely wanted to know "what basis he has for making this kind of statement." Gomez, an academic with postgraduate degrees in history, education, psychology and philosophy from three Venezuela universities, said he meant Caldera no wrong and, in fact, voted for Caldera for his first term in 1968. "I wish the president good health. I'm not betting on his sicknesses, much less on his death," Gomez said in an interview in his home two hours after his release. "It's just that from an astrological point of view, 1997 looks dark for Caldera." Gomez spoke publicly on the topic at a conference of businessmen on Oct. 12.

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(no subject)
by Arnaldo Giacomitti Junior 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: considering internet/privacy periodical
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:31 PM 10/27/96 -0800, Tim May wrote: >But Greg probably already knows about all these things. If he thinks >there's a market, maybe there is. Actually, I don't think there's enough of a market to justify a real business; I don't see any serious $ here (in fact, there's probably very little $ here). As far as I can tell, most of the money being made with the Internet so far comes from selling things to people who think they can make money on the Internet. My mention of a price comes from my impression that there may be some folks who'd be interested - mostly law-oriented folks but this is likely true of other "serious professionals/academics" - but who have organized their information gathering practices around paper, such that an electronic-only publication isn't "real" to them. But given my relatively poor cash flow situation and the tendency of human beings to sign up for anything that's free, I don't think it's a good idea to offer free FAX or paper distribution, since those media choices would cost me per subscriber. Mostly I see a hole right now in between the one-shot web pages/FAQs people build which explain remailers (and other privacy technologies) and Raph's remailer list, which is pretty tightly focused on the technical/reliability aspects of cypherpunk-style remailers without providing a lot of historical or technical context. (To clarify, I think both the FAQ's and Raph's remailer reliability tracking are valuable, and I see them as inspirations to also do something useful.) Also, the privacy/remailer market is fragmenting (evolving), with pro-privacy (or faux pro-privacy, or anti-privacy) mail receiving/forwarding services, viz c2.org, netbox.com, pobox.com, thebook.com, mailmasher.com, hotmail.com, etc. I see it not as a business but more like a way of organizing what I'm thinking about already in a way that might be interesting to others. -- Greg Broiles | "We pretend to be their friends, gbroiles(a)netbox.com | but they fuck with our heads." http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | |

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Re: considering internet/privacy periodical
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:31 PM 10/27/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: >The article somewhat longwindedly gets into the problems these "hot sites" >are having. The lack of loyalty, the lack of _payment_, etc. I would like to report that even though the WSJ site supposedly started charging at Midnight on 20 September, I can still log on using my old free account (and I'm not using the MS browser). Haven't been charged yet. DCF

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by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I came across some interesting passages in the RAND Corp. study, An Exploration of Cyberspace Security R&D Investment Strategies for DARPA: "The Day After ... in Cyberspace II", MR-797-DARPA. http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR797 The report describes the results of an exercise sponsored by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) using the RAND "The Day After..." methodology to elicit the views of participants on research and investment strategies addressing the security and safety of systems and networks supporting various U.S. physical and functional infrastructures. The exercise was held on March 23, 1996 in Washington D.C., and involved approximately 60 participants from government, universities, and commercial industries involved with the U.S. information infrastructure. Has this report been discussed on the list? ---------------- Is it possible to "sterilize" data passing through our telecommunications systems? Billions of bits of data pass through our national information infrastructure each second. Some of those bits represent information about individual citizens' login and password combinations, social security and credit card numbers, account information, health status, and innumerable other sensitive information items. Our nation has superb communications monitoring tools, housed primarily in the National Security Agency. However, the NSA is precluded by law from collecting information about U.S. citizens. When incidents of "information warfare" are being waged against U.S. systems, could key data flows be "sterilized" or "sanitized" by computer hardware and/or software in such a manner that the NSA could help monitor and track perpetrators in cyberspace without violating these laws? This topic was raised during exercise discussions. We have not studied all the relevant laws and regulations to assess whether such sterilization measures would allow the power of NSA's analyses to be brought to bear on telecommunications involving U.S. citizens, but perhaps the topic merits further investigation. If so, what kinds of pattern detection and replacement algorithms would suffice to accomplish this goal? Sponsor development of an aircraft-like "black box" recording device When a cyberspace security incident happens, it is often not detected in real time, and the trail back to the perpetrator becomes lost. Could a "black box" recording device be developed, to be attached to key nodes or links of cyberspace systems, that would record every transaction passing through that node or link during the last n minutes (where n=5 or 10, for example)? If so, that record would be invaluable in tracing the source of incidents, whether they are accidental or deliberately perpetrated. Thousands of such systems would be required to cover key links or nodes; could they be made robust, inexpensive, and ultra-reliable? PGP Fingerprint: FE 90 1A 95 9D EA 8D 61 81 2E CC A9 A4 4A FB A9 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Snoop Daty Data | Internet: azur(a)netcom.com Grinder | Sacred Cow Meat Co. | --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hacker Opportunities (Let's Make Lots Of Money) I've got the brains, you've got the tricks Let's make lots of money You've got the code, I've got the hacks Let's make lots of ... I've had enough of scheming and messing `round with jerks My crypto code's compiled, I'm afraid it doesn't work I'm looking for a partner, someone who gets things fixed Ask yourself this question: do you want to be rich? I've got the brains, you've got the tricks Let's make lots of money You've got the code, I've got the hacks Let's make lots of money You can tell I'm educated, I studied at CalTech Doctored in mathematics, I could've been set I can program a computer, choose the perfect time If you've got the inclination, I have got the crime Ooooh, there's a lot of opportunities If you know when to take them, you know There's a lot of opportunities If there aren't, you can make them (Make or break them) I've got the brains, you've got the tricks Let's make lots of money Let's make lots of ... You can see I'm single-minded, I know what I could be How do you feel about it? Come, take a walk with me I'm looking for a partner regardless of expense Think about it seriously, you know it makes sense Let's (Got the brains) Make (Got the tricks) Let's make lots of money (Money) Let's (You've got the code) Make (I've got the hacks) Let's make lots of money (Money) I've got the brains (Got the brains) You've got the code (Got the hacks) Let's make lots of money (Money) Money!

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by almika 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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One-time password logic/code/information?
by Mike 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am looking to write a sort of password server replacement for NIS, and I am curious as to white papers, or otherwise information on authorization scheme's for this type of application. Regards, - Mike

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