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Rivest Patent
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ron Rivest received on November 10 "US Patent 5835600: Block encryption algorithm with data-dependent rotations:" http://jya.com/rivest111098.htm (22K)

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RE: Rivest Patent
by Harvey Rook (Exchange) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It's a little bit more complicated than that. RC-6, which also uses data dependant rotations is patent free. Harv. > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Cordian [mailto:emc@wire.insync.net] > Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 11:25 AM > To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > Subject: Re: Rivest Patent > > > JYA writes: > > > Ron Rivest received on November 10 "US Patent 5835600: > > Block encryption algorithm with data-dependent rotations:" > > http://jya.com/rivest111098.htm (22K) > > So we can't use the rotate instruction with a data-dependent shift > count in a block encryption algorithm without a license from Ron? > > Foo on that. > > -- > Sponsor the DES Analytic Crack Project > http://www.cyberspace.org/~enoch/crakfaq.html >

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Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:02:52 +0000 > From: "Frank O'Dwyer" <fod(a)brd.ie> > Subject: Re: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the (fwd) > Under an "anarcho-whatever" people are left to their own devices. And *that* is the primary failure of the entire theory. It's strongest point is sufficient to kill it. No, actualy, it's strongest point demands that it be killed. Very weak argument epistomologicaly, with little more to offer than didactic charms. The implication is that individuals are making societal policies with no checks and balances (failure 1). In effect, the only way an individual will be restrained is by some sort of natural community action (never mind that people don't voluntarily act that way, failure 2). There is no clear mechanism to arbitrate disagreements other than the above mechanism pretty much eschewing any sort of standard of behaviour which further fosters non-compliant behaviour (failure 3). There is no clear mechanism that protects property or civil rights since the very arbitration mechanism changes (and by implication the standards of ethics/morality it's held to) on a case by case basis mediated by the whim of chance on the compatibility of any two individuals personal views (failure 4). The arbitrary use of violence is at no point addressed (failure 5). One of the primary arguments for anarcho- based systems is to address corruption and unfair competition. Yet at no point does it sufficiently address the guidelines as to what those are let alone limits on their solutions (failure 6). So what we are left with is a system whereby people mediate their actions based on the compatibility of their personal philosophies. As I've said before, anarcho- based systems make the same phsychological mistake that every system other than a democracy makes; if it works for one person the answer should be acceptable to another. The very fact that the contrary to this is one of the reasons behind anarcho- support doesn't seem to impinge upon the concioussness. Anarchy is contradictory at the axiomatic level. Another way to see it is: Let people do what they want and they'll naturaly conform to what I want. There is this same axiomatic problem with Hayek's economics and social theories. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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dbts: Hettinga's Road Trip to London...
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- After much hemming and hawing about plane and hotel arrangements, the final confirmation from some conference organizers arrived this past Monday morning. And, yesterday, the State Department promised me a passport on my doorstep this coming Tuesday. So, it now looks like I'm going to London on next Saturday's redeye to speak at the Internet Trading for Global Securities Markets conference, Tuesday and Wednesday, November 24th and 25th at the Hilton Olympia. Because of some interesting economics of cheap hotel room-nights and dear airfare, I'll be staying at the Hilton Olympia itself, on Kensington High Street in London, from the morning of Sunday the 22nd to the morning of Thursday the 26th. This conference has been in the works for months, but we weren't really sure everything was going to happen until, as usual, the last possible minute. I bet a whole bunch of people registered right on the deadline, or something, and they decided they had enough interest to pull the trigger. Oh, well, after dodging those kinds of bullets myself getting the FC conferences and this summer's Philodox Symposium off the ground, I should have expected it from someone else in the same shoes. We all have Duncan Goldie-Scott to thank for this trip, of course. For the past few months, I've been writing a series of articles on digital bearer transaction settlement for the Financial Times Virtual Finance Report, which Duncan edits. I started with cash, and then bonds, and then equity. This month I did derivatives. I've got three more left to do, I figure; one on micromoney, the other two on the possible macro-, and micro-, economic inplications of digital bearer settlement, and maybe one more, on possible deployment strategy, if we get that far. Since I started these articles, I have gotten quite a few pieces of fan mail from Duncan's subscribers, and it has been quite fun. It also seems that some of those folks are going to be at this conference. In addition, after all the dust settled, Duncan himself was made chairman of the conference, so I expect he's going to have his hands full when I get there. As if that wasn't enough, Duncan has also arranged for me to talk privately to some traders he knows at an investment/merchant bank whose name you would recognize, and that should be quite interesting. Duncan says that they've been reading my articles, and they've got lots of questions to ask. So, Duncan, thanks so much for all your good efforts evangelizing digital bearer transaction settlement to your friends in the City. I'm positively psyched to unleash the word hoarde in the Old World, fire up the patented Hettinga rant machine on that side of the pond, and all that. God help you all. :-). So, if anybody wants to get ahold of me in London for a beer and a schmooze while I'm there, (especially if you know someone crazy enough to pay my extortionate personal appearance fee for some of my scarce free time ;-)), the Hilton Olympia's address is 380 Kensington High Street, London W14 8NL, and phone number's 0171 603 3333. You can, of course, email me as well, but, since this is my first trip to Europe, I expect that internet connections, power, etc., for my trusty PowerBook 540c will be interesting, if not, um, creative. So, it might be a good idea to contact Duncan <mailto: dgs(a)live.co.uk>, or at lest cc: him on your communications with me regarding this trip, or while I'm actually there, as he's going to be the Official Philodox "Bob-Handler" on this trip. :-). Here's hoping that I meet some of you in London week after next! Cheers, Bob Hettinga -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.5 iQEVAwUBNkxutcUCGwxmWcHhAQEqFQf+Nk+po/iJVHlQpVT3es/uokYkYb7T3nbv NbEyDIEJkT4z5Jsp0omGU36/QFgF7iHAu614ehRAY/lhu7l1/ghrJdFKzQR+3lHU UijWKYe3tyk15oBPhUI2e0G1K52MNSmDl9EL4GQ3hpbBCSOM4UO+4W1q3RYnucGA b3p54QXpYeoRefAhSNiEjRc7Vup+EY1i6vkCONekr4+c9UugQ1sbGuRvCzcivXRk g7o0lktxY1+sXaALEcSgB3sOnG0TJj/HPTpVcsjhw1SFKbxLPKJmytPJ8iR7MEi3 9JMk82Lr6AHTfokAQuLOsEMut8yfsjJ8glg2cxrys+Rbo1qGjHyL+g== =RRO6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: IP: ISPI Clips 6.28: Wiretapping Internet Phone Lines
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This little phone looks nice with one gotcha: they left out encryption. Did they do this just to sell internationally and avoid the privacy issue altogether? Considering how the product is constructed, adding encryption would not be a major step. Mike *********************************************************************** Not all companies are complaining about CALEA. Aplio [ http://www.aplio.com/ ] CEO Olivier Zitoun believes his company's products fall into the FCC's definition of computer-to-computer IP telephony. Aplio sells boxes that can be plugged into normal touch-tone phones and used to call an Internet provider, which routes calls over the Net. "We are very different than other phone-to-phone devices or solutions," Zitoun said. "In a way, the discussion of IP-telephony regulation doesn't really apply to us."

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Fwd: Turtles and Rocks(s)
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:37:41 -0500 >From: Dan MacInnis <dan.louise(a)sympatico.ca> November 12th, 1998 the Toronto Board of Health announces they want to ban private owner ship of snakes, turtles, any and all exotic pets. Reaction of pet owners was immediate. In this city of just under 3 Million people, most said they would not abide by the law and hide their beloved pets. Where is Allan Rock when they need him? Allan is a resident of Toronto, surely he will leap to their aid and criminalize the ownership of turtles? Surely he knows Aunt Annie well enough to ask her to do it for him? [NOTE by the forwarder: the following paragraphs are a parody of bill C-68, the new firearms control bill. jfa.] But first, let's licence them. Register each, and the owners licenced. Then, we will know where these dangerous critters are, just in case later someone decides to hide a few. Where to put the sticker with the unique number will pose a problem. Later, we can ban them with impunity. The police can use the full force of the Criminal Code to enter and search for turtles and spiders at will. OK, Saskatchewan, this is your time to line up at the trough for jobs as Mirimachi did. We will need a registry office, with 300 employee's, high tech and trained bilingual people. Quebec does not need it, they are getting the RCMP training jobs. Hey, wait, maybe PEI wants it? ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== Ciao jfa Jean-Francois Avon, B.Sc. Physics, Montreal, Canada DePompadour, Société d'Importation Ltée Limoges fine porcelain and french crystal JFA Technologies, R&D physicists & engineers Instrumentation & control, LabView programming PGP keys: http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html PGP ID:0xC58ADD0D:529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 PGP ID:0x5B51964D:152ACCBCD4A481B0 254011193237822C PGP ID:0x6CBA71F7:485888E9FD68415A2945 ACCB366D38486CBA71F7

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How do crack newer Win95 PWL files ?
by Chris 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anybody know how the newer Win95 PWL files could be cracked ? I mean not those files which work with GLIDE (Header of those files is: 0xB04D464E = ".MFN", their username starts at position 0x208). I mean PWL files which have the following header: 0xE3828596 and the information begins at 0x252 ! I've pointed out that these PWL files depend in some way on a kind of randomness, a counter how often you have changed your password and may be on the username or the password. So if anybody knows how this could be done please let me know.

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Re: Info Age Crime Terror and War
by Michael Motyka 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John, The 1st - encrypted communications are speech. The 4th - plaintext that has been encrypted cannot be "found." The 5th - If your password is memorized then the only way to produce it is as a witness against yourself. So much for the layman's view. What is the current legal thinking and, more importantly, the relevant legal precedents? Aren't they ( LE ) making a bit of a leap when they say that the Constitution defines access to information not just items? It looks like the only way to achieve the information access they want is through modification of the Constitution. There is often a right-leaning political flavor to the CP list but isn't it such right-wingers as Rhenquist and Starr who invented the various forms of immunity that already can be used to subvert the 5th? Now they are trying to establish the legal equivalence of the physical and the virtual. I wish Kyle et al well in their fight against legions of terrorists but I hope that they have an impossible battle ahead of them when it comes to downgrading the Bill of Rights. Besides, more than wanting to protect us little lambs from terrorists, I think they recognize the degree to which technology is changing the world and are trying to resist the power shifts that are likely. The other reasons they give are mostly chaff. Regards, Mike John Young wrote: > > Senator Kyl has issued a long report, "Crime, Terror & > War: National Security and Public Safety in the Information > Age," which recounts his Subcommittee's hearings and > recommendations on encryption, Y2K, terrorism, info war, > domestic preparedness, wiretap, and more: > > http://jya.com/ctw.htm (97K) > > It describes a plan to combat threats to critical infrastructure > and the US homeland which, if implemented, would criminalize > much held dear to a few of this list's subscribers; other lurkers > will be overjoyed to read Kyl coming to the rescue of careers > and budgets of MIB and their suppliers of technologies of > political control. > > He wants DoD to get cracking on domestic protection, move over > piddling LEA. Civil liberties, nonsense. Crypto genie out of the bottle, > more nonsense. Getting government access to encrypted > communications, you bet. Through commercial products, yep. >

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Rememberance Day 1998.
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

================= forwarded from CFD V2 #696 ============ Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:03:49 -0600 From: Dan MacInnis <dan.louise(a)sympatico.ca> Subject: Rememberance Day 1998. It is past eleven O'clock here. It is November 11th, 1998. On this date every year my mind always returns to thoughts of my uncle, whose body, it's elements long ago returned to the earth, the dust undisturbed in a European grave, the man for whom I was renamed when the sad news reached my mother and grandfather on that early spring morning many years ago. Even as child their wet faces impacted me, forever. It drifted today to Ottawa, where I once stood cold but proud close to one Paul Hellyer, then Minister of National Defense under the Honorable Prime Minister Lester Bowles Pearson. It was Rememberance Day, Paul was delivering the obligatory service beside a Cenotaph, the soldiers, sailors and airmen stood at ease waiting for the ceremonies to end, pretending to listen to his resonant, educated voice. It was a bitter cold day, I knew they would prefer to be at their homes, or in their messes or just anyplace but on parade that day. I was proud to be associated with a government, indeed a country even, with such diversity, such room for individuals to work, play and overcome the challenges each would experience. It honestly was a Free Canada, individuals could aspire to whatever their imaginations deemed them worthy to become. Later that evening, at a Military function, a member of the RCAF suggested to me, each of us with the government issued glass in the right hand, white serviette properly wrapped around it to keep the hand warm and dry for handshaking, that someday he expected I would be Minister of National Defense. Sadly enough, we both believed it. But today is November 11th, 1998, at about 11:50 AM. My pride in the Liberal Party of Canada has been shattered. My belief that issues like Conscription, which polarized our founding peoples for two generations, would never surface, ever again, gone. My belief that MY PARTY stood for individual rights, the only force that would stand between the Elite's and the common person, gone. Forever. So it a doubly sad day for me. My uncle, and my Party. Bill C68 has intruded into the lives of so many Canadians, and if left to stand as is, will undermine everything I stood there that cold Ottawa morning to pay tribute, and everything my uncle died for in that foreign field so long ago. He died with no idea the rifle he carried to fight for our freedoms would become such a divisive symbol a few short years later. On this morning I shall not revisit the implications of C68. Rather, I will ask those struggling to preserve out heritage to continue the fight. Do not surrender. Then, when it becomes our time to let our earthly possessions go, when our bodies begin the journey back to the dust from whence they came and our spirits return to source, perhaps the cold white silk of the casket or the sides of the urn holding our ashes will be a bit warmer knowing we did all we could for those who follow. Anything less of us would be shameful.

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network associates back in kra
by Steve Mynott 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

subject says it all roll on gpg -- 1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott steve(a)tightrope.demon.co.uk http://www.pineal.com/ if we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? - albert einstein

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