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RE: [NOISE] Re: IPG message
by Steve Gibbons 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The exchange between IPG and CypherPunks sounds more and more like a Troll every time I see a new message on the subject. (My 'D'elete key is starting to wear out from over-use...) [ Yes, I realize that this post is just _more_ noise... ] -- Steve(a)AZTech.Net

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Two "libertarian" interviews...
by RUSSELLDH＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

to:cypherpunks@toad.com re: Two "libertarian" interviews... Hi! Last month I interviewed Phil Zimmermann, the author of PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) and last summer, I interviewed Jim Warren about public access to government information (and vice-versa). I have transcribed both these interviews and found your name on the Web as someone who might be interested in these two items. The Zimmermann interview is at: http://www.animatedsoftware.com/hightech/philspgp.htm and the Jim Warren interview is at: http://www.animatedsoftware.com/hightech/jimwarre.htm I hope you will find these interviews interesting and will want to link to them. Thank you in advance for your consideration. Russell Hoffman Host, High Tech Today

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Thanks for the keys
by whitfield.diffie＠Eng.Sun.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I would like to thank the gentleman, who identified himself only as a cypherpunk, who fetched my keys out of the door of my wife's car (I frequently leave keys sticking in the doors of cars), knocked on the window, and handed them to me. To those who have seen the Equinox TV piece on cryptography, I will remark that it was the same set of keys and the same car that appeared on that show. Whit

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Re: Ecash API about to be released
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:32 PM 3/21/96 -0800, Lucky Green wrote: >With the Ecash API due to be released within a matter of days, I would >welcome anyone on this list interested in building applications on top of >such an API to contact me. The API will determine the calls to a libecash >that DigiCash will provide. For obvious reasons, I am interested in ecash with full payee, as well as payer, anonymity. Last I heard, Digicash didn't provide this. Any updates?

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New Beta Test of PGPfone available WINDOWS '95 Included!
by jis＠mit.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups: alt.security.pgp, sci.crypt) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- We have finally released a Windows '95 version of PGPfone. This release includes PGPfone for Macintosh version 1.0b6 and PGPfone for Windows '95 version 1.0b1. Note: The Macintosh version does not talk to earlier versions. However the Macintosh and Windows version talk to each other! Connections can be either via modem or the Internet. Note: This code is beta test code. Future changes may continue to be incompatible with these versions. Also Note: We are now only distribution PGPfone via the World Wide Web, we have shutdown the PGPfone FTP site. To get PGPfone over the Web, go to the PGPfone home page at: http://web.mit.edu/network/pgpfone WE CAN ONLY DISTRIBUTE PGPFONE TO U.S. PERSONS AND CANADIAN CITIZENS. -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMVIVssUtR20Nv5BtAQHMLAQAnP6vw+vSwqtvY20T9wjEbSn8jafaUjc2 NPJThVLs9YL0GfuOb0LICJk4I+1W51cJG5CU7McC2gxFSm9DqBmqaemcPUrepY+8 x9WAIUnRI0zhInwOSk7XeRNZLuosve/qruj/OVkttSg4sGo39ZOM43iihSIcwvT/ AeyHbZEKT44= =XqHc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Tim's friend's mildly retarded son
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:17 PM 3/21/96, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: > This topic's relevance to Cypherpunks, aside from the confirmations >that you mentioned, is low... aside from that it's of interest to Extropians >such as myself and Tim May. In recent months, a self-appointed group of list members have taken upon themselves to argue that _anything_ that does not have to do with certain topics they find appropriate is "not related to crypto, so take it elsewhere." Regrettably, most reasonable people have grown quiet about anything that smacks of politics or ideology, leaving the field clear for certain ranting lunatics. While I agree that the Cypherpunks list is not a libertarian or socialist theory discussion area, the fact is that crypto is tied intimately to incredibly important policy and jurisprudential areas. The early meetings were not held, and the list was not formed, solely to debate the merits of 3DES vs. IDEA or other crypto arcania, for which sci.crypt and sci.crypt.research already existed. The link between the FDA and crypto is not as much of a reach as some might think. When a government passes what are the equivalent of "dietary laws" (what one may eat, drink, etc.), even if based on supposed studies, this is a major limit on personal freedom. Would members of this list support an FDA-like organization passing judgement on which algorithms are considered "safe and effective" (and by whose standards?)? I mentioned my friend's detour to Mexico to obtain medicine for his son in passing, not to distract the list. I feel, however, that anyone who argues that a group of bureacrats and lawyers in Washington, D.C. have the "right" to send someone to jail for eating something they have decided is evil should reconsider their committment to this position. I have no problem with people deciding that certain foods or herbs or medicines are not to their liking, or are "snake oil," but I have a real problem with them raiding the houses of those who think differently and seizing their property, sending them to prison, etc. Think of the parallels to crypto. Believe me, I don't even want the bozos at IPG to be enjoined from selling their snake oil. Suckers are born every minute, as IPG knows, and I have to think of it as evolution in action. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Media seekers, reputation and banishment
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: NT's C2 rating
by Mike Tighe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> Basically, I'm now questioning the C2 rating of Windows NT. The >> entire security layer is modular to the Kernel. As a modular >> driver, it can be removed, rewritten, and replaced. Has the product actually been evaluated and put on the EPL? Or is Microsoft just claiming it meets the C2 requirements? Mike Tighe tighe(a)spectrum.titan.com http://www.tcst.com/~tighe/

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Re: NT's C2 rating
by Mike Tighe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>At 10:21 AM 3/21/96 -0800, David Loysen <dwl(a)hnc.com> wrote: >>>The fine print says its insecure as soon as its connected to a network. >>Ain't nothing fine about that print. An operating system or piece of >>hardware may be C2 certifiable. But only a complete system in a specific >>configuration can be certified as C2 compliant. The way I read the orange >>book, no system with a network connection can ever be C2. To address that problem, they wrote the Trusted Network Interpretation a few years after the Orange Book Mike Tighe tighe(a)spectrum.titan.com http://www.tcst.com/~tighe/

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Please criticize PGP-based robomoderator
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Date: Fri Mar 22 21:25:47 CST 1996 To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Please criticize PGP-based robomoderator Hello, Today UVV's announced that a new group, soc.culture.russian.moderated, was voted into existence. If all goes well, it should be newgrouped soon. For this group, I wrote a robomoderator program that does the following: 1) Enforces posting style required by the charter 2) Checks PGP signatures on incoming messages and prevents some types of forgeries 3) Implement secure (PGP-based) exchange between robomoderator program and human moderators, for messages requiring their approval 4) Black lists, white lists, and lists of suspicious words (Cypherpunks may imagine that ``medusa'' would be a suspicious word for this list) 5) Signs (with Greg Rose's PMApp) approved articles to prevent posting articles with forged approval 6) supports appeals, moderators' mailing list, and more. A specification for the robomoderator is on my home page at http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/robomod/robomod.html and your criticisms and suggestions are more than welcome. For security reasons, we cannot post the code yet. We'll do it after I systematically proofread it to make sure that it is secure. Robomoderator is written in perl and sh, with some C code. It is working, but there are sopme minor things to do (they are listed in the TODO list on my WWW Page). Thanks to Dr. Dimitri Vulis for several good suggestions that I implemented. - Igor. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMVNx8sJFmFyXKPzRAQEgVwP+Il58rOpbWtlC0MW4tPrYEnuF9JC5OJET VhaWud9lYzMDo9sdiBBmmgPqs5n3/lPpvxuNX4oCNbooP/U7SE8iqqOlcEdRDI3d KCSS8jol+T+VQGyVg8GkNrjSzSrfBrnka/CYMCXzKPGCFKcj5QiO1ufuBlhcxNsa glTt8xf5BrY= =xUgQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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