July 2018 - cypherpunks-legacy

Crypto blogs?
by hal＠finney.org 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Does anyone have pointers to crypto related weblogs? Bruce Schneier recently announced that Crypto-Gram would be coming out incrementally in blog form at http://www.schneier.com/blog/. I follow Ian Grigg's Financial Cryptography blog, http://www.financialcryptography.com/. Recently I learned about Adam Shostack's http://www.emergentchaos.com/, although it seems to be more security than crypto. Any other good ones? Hal Finney --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)metzdowd.com --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[IP] more on No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye!
by David Farber 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

------ Forwarded Message From: Josh Duberman <pivotalinfo(a)usa.net> Reply-To: <pivotalinfo(a)usa.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:19:51 -0800 To: <dave(a)farber.net> Subject: Re: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! Hi - I forwarded these messages to author David Brin. His reply is below, and he gave permission for you to post it IP if you wish. Thank you and best wishes - Josh ------------ Josh, thanks for sharing these remarks about privacy. Alas, these folks are falling for the usual trap that has snared so many well-meaning people for the last decade. They are right to worry about creeping Big Brotherism... and vigorously defending the wrong stretch of wall. What weird reflex is it, that makes bright people fall for the trap of seeing SECRECY as a friend of freedom? (Oh, when it's YOUR secrecy you call it "privacy.") To rail against others seeing, without suggesting any conceivable way that (1) the technologies could be stopped or (2) how it would help matters to stop govt surveillance even if we could. As I've emphasized in The Transparent Society, the thing that has kept us free and safe has been to emphasize MORE information flows. To ENHANCE how much average people know. http://www.futurist.com/portal/future_trends/david_brin_empowerment.htm http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2004/08/04/mortal_gods/index_np.html And yes, this is the one way to protect genuine PRIVACY... though any sensible person knows that the word will be re-defined in a new century flooded with cheap cameras. (For a look at the near future, see: http://www.ojr.org/ojr/workplace/1078288485.php) This inane reflex to try to blind others, instead of empowering citizens to look back, is like a drug, alas. But slowly people are awakening to the facts. The world will be a sea of cameras and vision. But that needn't be a nightmare, if we can hold the watchers accountable by looking BACK. With cordial regards, David Brin www.davidbrin.com <http://www.davidbrin.com> David Farber wrote: > > Orwell was an amateur djf > > > ------ Forwarded Message > From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren(a)vortex.com> <mailto:lauren@vortex.com> > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:38:28 -0800 > To: <dave(a)farber.net> <mailto:dave@farber.net> > Cc: <lauren(a)vortex.com> <mailto:lauren@vortex.com> > Subject: No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! > > Dave, > > It's time to blow the lid off this "no expectation of privacy in > public places" argument that judges and law enforcement now spout out > like demented parrots in so many situations. > > Technology has rendered that argument meaningless -- unless we > intend to permit a pervasive surveillance slave society to become > our future -- which apparently is the goal among some parties. > > It is incredibly disingenuous to claim that cameras (increasingly > tied to face recognition software) and GPS tracking devices (which > could end up being standard in new vehicles as part of their > instrumentation black boxes), etc. are no different than cops > following suspects. > > Technology will effectively allow everyone to be followed all of the > time. Unless society agrees that everything you do outside the > confines of your home and office should be available to authorities > on demand -- even retrospectively via archived images and data -- we > are going down an incredibly dangerous hole. > > I use the "slimy guy in the raincoat" analogy. Let's say the > government arranged for everyone to be followed at all times in > public by slimy guys in raincoats. Each has a camera and clipboard, > and wherever you go in public, they are your shadow. They keep > snapping photos of where you go and where you look. They're > constantly jotting down the details of your movements. When you go > into your home, they wait outside, ready to start shadowing you > again as soon as you step off your property. Every day, they report > everything they've learned about you to a government database. > > Needless to say, most people would presumably feel incredibly > violated by such a scenario, even though it's all taking place in > that public space where we're told that we have no expectation of > privacy. > > Technology is creating the largely invisible equivalent of that guy > in the raincoat, ready to tail us all in perpetuity. If we don't > control him, he will most assuredly control us. > > --Lauren-- > Lauren Weinstein > lauren(a)pfir.org or lauren(a)vortex.com or lauren(a)privacyforum.org > Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 > http://www.pfir.org/lauren > Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org > Co-Founder, Fact Squad - http://www.factsquad.org > Co-Founder, URIICA - Union for Representative International Internet > Cooperation and Analysis - http://www.uriica.org > Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com > Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy > Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com > > > - - - > > > >> >> ------ Forwarded Message >> From: Gregory Hicks <ghicks(a)cadence.com> <mailto:ghicks@cadence.com> >> Reply-To: Gregory Hicks <ghicks(a)cadence.com> <mailto:ghicks@cadence.com> >> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:42:03 -0800 (PST) >> To: <dave(a)farber.net> <mailto:dave@farber.net> >> Cc: <ghicks(a)metis.cadence.com> <mailto:ghicks@metis.cadence.com> >> Subject: Ruling gives cops leeway with GPS >> >> Dave: >> >> For IP if you wish... >> >> http://timesunion.com/AspStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=322152 >> >> Ruling gives cops leeway with GPS >> Decision allows use of vehicle tracking device without a warrant >> >> By BRENDAN LYONS, Staff writer >> First published: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 >> >> In a decision that could dramatically affect criminal investigations >> nationwide, a federal judge has ruled police didn't need a warrant when >> they attached a satellite tracking device to the underbelly of a car >> being driven by a suspected Hells Angels operative. >> >> [...snip...] >> >> All Times Union materials copyright 1996-2005, Capital Newspapers >> Division of The Hearst Corporation, Albany, N.Y. >> >> >> >> > > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > -- Josh Duberman, Pivotalinfo LLC, 15100 SE 38th St. #819, Bellevue, WA 98006; Tel:(425) 746-0050; Cell:(425) 591-8200; pivotalinfo(a)usa.net; Information For Solutions In Business & Science ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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Whistleblower outs NSA's secret spy room at AT&T
by EEkid＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Whistleblower outs NSA's secret spy room at AT&T April 08, 2006 Mark Klein, a retired AT&T communications technician, said the company shunted all Internet traffic--including traffic from peering links connecting to other Internet backbone providers-- to semantic traffic analyzers, installed in a secret room inside the AT&T central office on Folsom Street in San Francisco. Similar rooms were built in Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego. "Based on my understanding of the connections and equipment at issue, it appears the NSA (National Security Agency) is capable of conducting what amounts to vacuum-cleaner surveillance of all the data crossing the Internet," Klein said. "This potential spying appears to be applied wholesale to all sorts of Internet communications of countless citizens." In 2003, the National Security Agency set up a secret room inside the phone company's San Francisco office building that was not accessible to AT&T technicians, Klein said. The former employee's statement, as well as several documents saved by him after he left the company in 2004, shows further evidence of domestic spying initiatives by the federal government. Klein's statement is being incorporated into a class action filed in San Francisco federal court, in which lawyers with the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), Lerach Coughlin Stoia Geller Rudman & Robbins, and Traber & Voorhees in Pasadena claim that AT&T illegally allowed the NSA taps. "Despite what we are hearing, and considering the public track record of this administration, I simply do not believe their claims that the NSA's spying program is really limited to foreign communications or is otherwise consistent with the NSA's charter or with FISA [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act]," Klein said. News that the NSA was working with major telecommunications companies first surfaced shortly before Christmas. The Bush administration has acknowledged the existence of a domestic spying program, but claims the executive order was limited to those individuals with known terrorist ties. The Electronic Frontier Foundation filed a class-action lawsuit against AT&T on January 31, 2006, accusing the telecom giant of violating the law and the privacy of its customers by collaborating with the National Security Agency in its massive program to wiretap and data-mine Americans' communications. "The evidence that we are filing supports our claim that AT&T is diverting Internet traffic into the hands of the NSA wholesale, in violation of federal wiretapping laws and the Fourth Amendment," EFF Staff Attorney Kevin Bankston said in a statement. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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[IP] Whistleblower outs NSA's secret spy room at AT&T
by David Farber 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

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Crypto blogs?
by hal＠finney.org 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Does anyone have pointers to crypto related weblogs? Bruce Schneier recently announced that Crypto-Gram would be coming out incrementally in blog form at http://www.schneier.com/blog/. I follow Ian Grigg's Financial Cryptography blog, http://www.financialcryptography.com/. Recently I learned about Adam Shostack's http://www.emergentchaos.com/, although it seems to be more security than crypto. Any other good ones? Hal Finney --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)metzdowd.com --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[IP] more on No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye!
by David Farber 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

------ Forwarded Message From: Josh Duberman <pivotalinfo(a)usa.net> Reply-To: <pivotalinfo(a)usa.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:19:51 -0800 To: <dave(a)farber.net> Subject: Re: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! Hi - I forwarded these messages to author David Brin. His reply is below, and he gave permission for you to post it IP if you wish. Thank you and best wishes - Josh ------------ Josh, thanks for sharing these remarks about privacy. Alas, these folks are falling for the usual trap that has snared so many well-meaning people for the last decade. They are right to worry about creeping Big Brotherism... and vigorously defending the wrong stretch of wall. What weird reflex is it, that makes bright people fall for the trap of seeing SECRECY as a friend of freedom? (Oh, when it's YOUR secrecy you call it "privacy.") To rail against others seeing, without suggesting any conceivable way that (1) the technologies could be stopped or (2) how it would help matters to stop govt surveillance even if we could. As I've emphasized in The Transparent Society, the thing that has kept us free and safe has been to emphasize MORE information flows. To ENHANCE how much average people know. http://www.futurist.com/portal/future_trends/david_brin_empowerment.htm http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2004/08/04/mortal_gods/index_np.html And yes, this is the one way to protect genuine PRIVACY... though any sensible person knows that the word will be re-defined in a new century flooded with cheap cameras. (For a look at the near future, see: http://www.ojr.org/ojr/workplace/1078288485.php) This inane reflex to try to blind others, instead of empowering citizens to look back, is like a drug, alas. But slowly people are awakening to the facts. The world will be a sea of cameras and vision. But that needn't be a nightmare, if we can hold the watchers accountable by looking BACK. With cordial regards, David Brin www.davidbrin.com <http://www.davidbrin.com> David Farber wrote: > > Orwell was an amateur djf > > > ------ Forwarded Message > From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren(a)vortex.com> <mailto:lauren@vortex.com> > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:38:28 -0800 > To: <dave(a)farber.net> <mailto:dave@farber.net> > Cc: <lauren(a)vortex.com> <mailto:lauren@vortex.com> > Subject: No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! > > Dave, > > It's time to blow the lid off this "no expectation of privacy in > public places" argument that judges and law enforcement now spout out > like demented parrots in so many situations. > > Technology has rendered that argument meaningless -- unless we > intend to permit a pervasive surveillance slave society to become > our future -- which apparently is the goal among some parties. > > It is incredibly disingenuous to claim that cameras (increasingly > tied to face recognition software) and GPS tracking devices (which > could end up being standard in new vehicles as part of their > instrumentation black boxes), etc. are no different than cops > following suspects. > > Technology will effectively allow everyone to be followed all of the > time. Unless society agrees that everything you do outside the > confines of your home and office should be available to authorities > on demand -- even retrospectively via archived images and data -- we > are going down an incredibly dangerous hole. > > I use the "slimy guy in the raincoat" analogy. Let's say the > government arranged for everyone to be followed at all times in > public by slimy guys in raincoats. Each has a camera and clipboard, > and wherever you go in public, they are your shadow. They keep > snapping photos of where you go and where you look. They're > constantly jotting down the details of your movements. When you go > into your home, they wait outside, ready to start shadowing you > again as soon as you step off your property. Every day, they report > everything they've learned about you to a government database. > > Needless to say, most people would presumably feel incredibly > violated by such a scenario, even though it's all taking place in > that public space where we're told that we have no expectation of > privacy. > > Technology is creating the largely invisible equivalent of that guy > in the raincoat, ready to tail us all in perpetuity. If we don't > control him, he will most assuredly control us. > > --Lauren-- > Lauren Weinstein > lauren(a)pfir.org or lauren(a)vortex.com or lauren(a)privacyforum.org > Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 > http://www.pfir.org/lauren > Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org > Co-Founder, Fact Squad - http://www.factsquad.org > Co-Founder, URIICA - Union for Representative International Internet > Cooperation and Analysis - http://www.uriica.org > Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com > Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy > Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com > > > - - - > > > >> >> ------ Forwarded Message >> From: Gregory Hicks <ghicks(a)cadence.com> <mailto:ghicks@cadence.com> >> Reply-To: Gregory Hicks <ghicks(a)cadence.com> <mailto:ghicks@cadence.com> >> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:42:03 -0800 (PST) >> To: <dave(a)farber.net> <mailto:dave@farber.net> >> Cc: <ghicks(a)metis.cadence.com> <mailto:ghicks@metis.cadence.com> >> Subject: Ruling gives cops leeway with GPS >> >> Dave: >> >> For IP if you wish... >> >> http://timesunion.com/AspStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=322152 >> >> Ruling gives cops leeway with GPS >> Decision allows use of vehicle tracking device without a warrant >> >> By BRENDAN LYONS, Staff writer >> First published: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 >> >> In a decision that could dramatically affect criminal investigations >> nationwide, a federal judge has ruled police didn't need a warrant when >> they attached a satellite tracking device to the underbelly of a car >> being driven by a suspected Hells Angels operative. >> >> [...snip...] >> >> All Times Union materials copyright 1996-2005, Capital Newspapers >> Division of The Hearst Corporation, Albany, N.Y. >> >> >> >> > > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > -- Josh Duberman, Pivotalinfo LLC, 15100 SE 38th St. #819, Bellevue, WA 98006; Tel:(425) 746-0050; Cell:(425) 591-8200; pivotalinfo(a)usa.net; Information For Solutions In Business & Science ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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Whistleblower outs NSA's secret spy room at AT&T
by EEkid＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Whistleblower outs NSA's secret spy room at AT&T April 08, 2006 Mark Klein, a retired AT&T communications technician, said the company shunted all Internet traffic--including traffic from peering links connecting to other Internet backbone providers-- to semantic traffic analyzers, installed in a secret room inside the AT&T central office on Folsom Street in San Francisco. Similar rooms were built in Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego. "Based on my understanding of the connections and equipment at issue, it appears the NSA (National Security Agency) is capable of conducting what amounts to vacuum-cleaner surveillance of all the data crossing the Internet," Klein said. "This potential spying appears to be applied wholesale to all sorts of Internet communications of countless citizens." In 2003, the National Security Agency set up a secret room inside the phone company's San Francisco office building that was not accessible to AT&T technicians, Klein said. The former employee's statement, as well as several documents saved by him after he left the company in 2004, shows further evidence of domestic spying initiatives by the federal government. Klein's statement is being incorporated into a class action filed in San Francisco federal court, in which lawyers with the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), Lerach Coughlin Stoia Geller Rudman & Robbins, and Traber & Voorhees in Pasadena claim that AT&T illegally allowed the NSA taps. "Despite what we are hearing, and considering the public track record of this administration, I simply do not believe their claims that the NSA's spying program is really limited to foreign communications or is otherwise consistent with the NSA's charter or with FISA [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act]," Klein said. News that the NSA was working with major telecommunications companies first surfaced shortly before Christmas. The Bush administration has acknowledged the existence of a domestic spying program, but claims the executive order was limited to those individuals with known terrorist ties. The Electronic Frontier Foundation filed a class-action lawsuit against AT&T on January 31, 2006, accusing the telecom giant of violating the law and the privacy of its customers by collaborating with the National Security Agency in its massive program to wiretap and data-mine Americans' communications. "The evidence that we are filing supports our claim that AT&T is diverting Internet traffic into the hands of the NSA wholesale, in violation of federal wiretapping laws and the Fourth Amendment," EFF Staff Attorney Kevin Bankston said in a statement. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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[IP] Whistleblower outs NSA's secret spy room at AT&T
by David Farber 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

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[p2p-hackers] Announcing SocialVPN version 0.3
by Renato Figueiredo 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Dear p2p-hackers, We have a new version of the open-source (GPL v2) SocialVPN P2P software that might be of interest to some of you: http://socialvpn.org This system self-organizes P2P VPN links among peers connected by an online social network. It builds on the Brunet P2P library and the IPOP overlay developed by the ACIS P2P group at U. Florida, supporting transparent NAT traversal and dynamic IP address/DNS name allocation and translation. Key improvements over the Facebook-based version announced in this list a while ago include: - the use of XMPP for peer discovery and certificate exchange (it's been tested with Google chat as well as with ejabberd) - a Web-based user interface, and - code/API re-structuring to facilitate programming of bindings to other online social networks by external developers. We run a public bootstrap overlay on PlanetLab; our code is hosted at GitHub, and we have binaries for Linux and Windows available for download. If you are interested in using or developing around this system, please feel free to contact us. Regards, --rf _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers(a)lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: [i2p] Re: side channel attacks
by Tom Kaitchuck 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Nostra2004(a)Safe-mail.net wrote: >I believe programs that search for spelling and style characteristics can >be largely thwarted by passing the text through at least two language >translation programs and tweaking the text to remove obvious semantic >errors. The translators will also, often, help do an inadvertent spell >checking when they can't identify the English word, leaving it untouched. > >Here is an example of passing the above paragraph through a >English-Russian-English transform using http://www.translate.ru : > >"I believe to programs that searches for spelling and develops features, it >is possible to stir substantially, transferring the text at least through >two language programs of translation and ?????????? the text to remove >obvious semantic mistakes. Translators will be also, often, to help to do >the negligent period checking when they cannot identify an English word, >leaving it is untouched." > >Leaving in the cyrillic selected by the translator for the word "tweaking" >may help throwt automated style analysis programs. > >Here's the same paragraph transformed through German: > >"I believe programs which can look for the orthography and style qualities >be mainly crossed, the text by at least two linguistic translation programs >passing and the text pinching to remove evident semantic mistakes. The >translators will also help often to do an inattentive period examination if >they cannot identify the English word, it untouched leaving." > >Nostra > > If you are that worried about someone identifying you, maybe sending the sensitive information out unencrypted over the Internet to an easily identifiable third-party that can be monitored is a bad idea. Downloading the software is not much better, as it is still a very distinctive feature. When doing anything for the sake of anonymity you must consider both your threat model and your anonymity set. A perfectly secure network is worthless if the bar to entry is so high that only a few people ever join. Even if you could only ever know something came from someone on the network, that fact alone would reduce the number of individuals that could be responsible to fewer than if they hadn't bothered with the network. _______________________________________________ i2p mailing list i2p(a)i2p.net http://i2p.dnsalias.net/mailman/listinfo/i2p ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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