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mail.com>; "akosba(a)cs.umd.edu" <akosba(a)cs.umd.edu>; Cpunks List <cypherpunk=
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Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:14 AM
Subject: Your paper on criminal contracts
Dear Professors Juels (http://www.arijuels.com/) and Shi (runting(a)gmail.com=
), and Ahmed Kosba =C2=A0akosba(a)cs.umd.edu :=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I've found a refe=
rence to your recent paper, http://www.initc3.org/publications.html.=C2=A0 =
"The Ring of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime."=C2=A0=C2=A0 Perhaps y=
ou are not aware, but 20 years ago (1995-6) I wrote an essay on a very simi=
lar subject. =C2=A0I called it "Assassination Politics". =C2=A0cryptome.org=
/ap.htm . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4958">Your paper: <a href=3D=
"https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&so=
urce=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drja&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwi=
F_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-conte=
nt%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpublic_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmH=
TOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zCi016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cG=
U" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_8900">https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt=
&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drj=
a&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwiF_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=
=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpubli=
c_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmHTOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zC=
i016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cGU</a></span></div><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442=
825109502_8941">Thank you for your reply, Dr. Juels, </span></div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5059"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5057">Once you read my essay, I think you will understand my concer=
n about the motivation for your research, and its potential consequences. &=
nbsp; Superficially, and certainly to someone unfamiliar with my idea (Assa=
ssination Politics essay), I'm sure it sounds useful and indeed benef=
icial to try to prevent the construction and operation of "criminal contrac=
ts". One problem that I see, as a lifetime libertarian, is that "cri=
minal" may mean no more than "what the government wants to ban" rather than=
an actual victim crime. Worse, governments are powerfully motivated =
to prevent developments that will someday likely destroy them.</span></div>=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_5503" class=3D"">I suggest that you study the analyses of Bob =
Vroman <a href=3D"http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.t=
cl?msg_id=3D009ape" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5754">http://www.green=
spun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=3D009ape</a> , &n=
bsp; <a href=3D"http://www.mail-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@min=
der.net/msg02068.html" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6269">http://www.ma=
il-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@minder.net/msg02068.html</a> &n=
bsp; and of Bob Murphy, </span><span style=3D"font-size: small;=
font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1442825109502_5851" class=3D"">www.anti-state.</span><wbr style=3D"font-s=
ize: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5853" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: small=
; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1442825109502_5855" class=3D"">com/murphy/</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 2=
0.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5857" class=3D"">murphy17</span=
><span style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-heig=
ht: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5859" class=3D"">.</span><=
span style=3D"font-size: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans=
-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5861" cla=
ss=3D"">html</span> (although the Murphy essay might not be ava=
ilable, except as an archive.) as well as by R. Sukumaran  =
; <a href=3D"http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAss=
assinationandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1442825109502_5597" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" cl=
ass=3D"">http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAssassinatio=
nandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html</a>. </div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr">Further, consider<br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"> <a href=3D"https://github.com=
/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/master/content/anarchism/game-theory-=
anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-the-state.md" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
2825109502_6139">https://github.com/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/ma=
ster/content/anarchism/game-theory-anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-t=
he-state.md</a></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=
=3D"https://c4ss.org/content/1157" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6418">h=
ttps://c4ss.org/content/1157</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282510=
9502_5058"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><a href=3D"http://archive.is/zYH0e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6562=
" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">series -- anti-state.com<=
/a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.red=
dit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrec=
tionist_ancapism/" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6678">https://www.reddi=
t.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrecti=
onist_ancapism/</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr">There is=
a lot more where this comes from.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825=
109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_65=
95" dir=3D"ltr">Keep in mind that when I wrote the AP essay, technologies s=
uch as Tor, Bitcoin, and especially Ethereum and Augur simply did not exist=
. But today they do, or at least they soon will. And that, I consider=
to be an extremely good thing.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_=
6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=
=3D"ltr">So perhaps you will understand that I consider that trying to prev=
ent _all_ "criminal contracts" from being formed is a major, and indeed dan=
gerous mistake. While I do not believe that such an effort can ever s=
ucceed, I think it would be best not to try.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109=
502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"> Jim Bell</div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6680"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6738"><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4963"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helvet=
icaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-=
size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4962"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4961"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5198"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14428251=
09502_4964"> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6555"><span style=3D"font-=
weight:bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6554">From:</span></b> Ari J=
uels <juels(a)cornell.edu><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To=
:</span></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br><b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "runting(a)gmail.com" <runting(a)gmail.com>=
;; "akosba(a)cs.umd.edu" <akosba(a)cs.umd.edu> <br> <b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 16, 2015 2:32 PM<br>=
<b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5055"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5054">Subject:</span></b> Re: Your pape=
r on criminal contracts<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4965"><br><div id=3D"yiv5844945283"><div id=
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4966">Dear Mr. Bell,</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4969"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4970">Thank you for your original not=
e and follow-up. We=E2=80=99re indeed planning to read your essay and cite =
it as appropriate in our next paper revision (slated to come out in January=
).</div>
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an" face=3D"Calibri">Yours,</font></font></div>
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Dear Professors Juels (<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
href=3D"http://www.arijuels.com/" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5046">h=
ttp://www.arijuels.com/</a>) and Shi (<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:runting@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:runting=
@gmail.com">runting(a)gmail.com</a>), and Ahmed Kosba <a rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:akosba@cs.umd.edu" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:akosba@cs.umd.edu">akosba(a)cs.umd.edu</a> : I've f=
ound a reference
to your recent paper, <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
href=3D"http://www.initc3.org/publications.html" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5047">http://www.initc3.org/publications.html</a>. "The Ring =
of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime." Perhaps you are not=
aware, but 20 years ago (1995-6) I wrote an essay on a very similar
subject. I called it "Assassination Politics". cryptome.org/ap=
.htm . Jim Bell</di=
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Subject: Your paper on criminal contracts
Dear Professors Juels (http://www.arijuels.com/) and Shi (runting(a)gmail.com=
), and Ahmed Kosba =C2=A0akosba(a)cs.umd.edu :=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I've found a refe=
rence to your recent paper, http://www.initc3.org/publications.html.=C2=A0 =
"The Ring of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime."=C2=A0=C2=A0 Perhaps y=
ou are not aware, but 20 years ago (1995-6) I wrote an essay on a very simi=
lar subject. =C2=A0I called it "Assassination Politics". =C2=A0cryptome.org=
/ap.htm . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4958">Your paper: <a href=3D=
"https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&so=
urce=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drja&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwi=
F_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-conte=
nt%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpublic_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmH=
TOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zCi016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cG=
U" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_8900">https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt=
&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drj=
a&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwiF_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=
=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpubli=
c_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmHTOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zC=
i016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cGU</a></span></div><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442=
825109502_8941">Thank you for your reply, Dr. Juels, </span></div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5059"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5057">Once you read my essay, I think you will understand my concer=
n about the motivation for your research, and its potential consequences. &=
nbsp; Superficially, and certainly to someone unfamiliar with my idea (Assa=
ssination Politics essay), I'm sure it sounds useful and indeed benef=
icial to try to prevent the construction and operation of "criminal contrac=
ts". One problem that I see, as a lifetime libertarian, is that "cri=
minal" may mean no more than "what the government wants to ban" rather than=
an actual victim crime. Worse, governments are powerfully motivated =
to prevent developments that will someday likely destroy them.</span></div>=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_5503" class=3D"">I suggest that you study the analyses of Bob =
Vroman <a href=3D"http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.t=
cl?msg_id=3D009ape" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5754">http://www.green=
spun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=3D009ape</a> , &n=
bsp; <a href=3D"http://www.mail-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@min=
der.net/msg02068.html" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6269">http://www.ma=
il-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@minder.net/msg02068.html</a> &n=
bsp; and of Bob Murphy, </span><span style=3D"font-size: small;=
font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1442825109502_5851" class=3D"">www.anti-state.</span><wbr style=3D"font-s=
ize: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5853" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: small=
; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1442825109502_5855" class=3D"">com/murphy/</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 2=
0.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5857" class=3D"">murphy17</span=
><span style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-heig=
ht: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5859" class=3D"">.</span><=
span style=3D"font-size: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans=
-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5861" cla=
ss=3D"">html</span> (although the Murphy essay might not be ava=
ilable, except as an archive.) as well as by R. Sukumaran  =
; <a href=3D"http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAss=
assinationandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1442825109502_5597" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" cl=
ass=3D"">http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAssassinatio=
nandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html</a>. </div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr">Further, consider<br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"> <a href=3D"https://github.com=
/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/master/content/anarchism/game-theory-=
anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-the-state.md" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
2825109502_6139">https://github.com/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/ma=
ster/content/anarchism/game-theory-anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-t=
he-state.md</a></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=
=3D"https://c4ss.org/content/1157" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6418">h=
ttps://c4ss.org/content/1157</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282510=
9502_5058"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><a href=3D"http://archive.is/zYH0e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6562=
" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">series -- anti-state.com<=
/a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.red=
dit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrec=
tionist_ancapism/" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6678">https://www.reddi=
t.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrecti=
onist_ancapism/</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr">There is=
a lot more where this comes from.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825=
109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_65=
95" dir=3D"ltr">Keep in mind that when I wrote the AP essay, technologies s=
uch as Tor, Bitcoin, and especially Ethereum and Augur simply did not exist=
. But today they do, or at least they soon will. And that, I consider=
to be an extremely good thing.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_=
6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=
=3D"ltr">So perhaps you will understand that I consider that trying to prev=
ent _all_ "criminal contracts" from being formed is a major, and indeed dan=
gerous mistake. While I do not believe that such an effort can ever s=
ucceed, I think it would be best not to try.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109=
502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"> Jim Bell</div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6680"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6738"><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4963"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helvet=
icaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-=
size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4962"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4961"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5198"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14428251=
09502_4964"> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6555"><span style=3D"font-=
weight:bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6554">From:</span></b> Ari J=
uels <juels(a)cornell.edu><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To=
:</span></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br><b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "runting(a)gmail.com" <runting(a)gmail.com>=
;; "akosba(a)cs.umd.edu" <akosba(a)cs.umd.edu> <br> <b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 16, 2015 2:32 PM<br>=
<b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5055"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5054">Subject:</span></b> Re: Your pape=
r on criminal contracts<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" i=
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4966">Dear Mr. Bell,</div>
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4970">Thank you for your original not=
e and follow-up. We=E2=80=99re indeed planning to read your essay and cite =
it as appropriate in our next paper revision (slated to come out in January=
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Dear Professors Juels (<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
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ttp://www.arijuels.com/</a>) and Shi (<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:runting@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:runting=
@gmail.com">runting(a)gmail.com</a>), and Ahmed Kosba <a rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:akosba@cs.umd.edu" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:akosba@cs.umd.edu">akosba(a)cs.umd.edu</a> : I've f=
ound a reference
to your recent paper, <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
href=3D"http://www.initc3.org/publications.html" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5047">http://www.initc3.org/publications.html</a>. "The Ring =
of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime." Perhaps you are not=
aware, but 20 years ago (1995-6) I wrote an essay on a very similar
subject. I called it "Assassination Politics". cryptome.org/ap=
.htm . Jim Bell</di=
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Subject: Your paper on criminal contracts
Dear Professors Juels (http://www.arijuels.com/) and Shi (runting(a)gmail.com=
), and Ahmed Kosba =C2=A0akosba(a)cs.umd.edu :=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I've found a refe=
rence to your recent paper, http://www.initc3.org/publications.html.=C2=A0 =
"The Ring of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime."=C2=A0=C2=A0 Perhaps y=
ou are not aware, but 20 years ago (1995-6) I wrote an essay on a very simi=
lar subject. =C2=A0I called it "Assassination Politics". =C2=A0cryptome.org=
/ap.htm . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4958">Your paper: <a href=3D=
"https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&so=
urce=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drja&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwi=
F_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-conte=
nt%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpublic_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmH=
TOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zCi016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cG=
U" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_8900">https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt=
&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drj=
a&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwiF_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=
=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpubli=
c_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmHTOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zC=
i016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cGU</a></span></div><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442=
825109502_8941">Thank you for your reply, Dr. Juels, </span></div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5059"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5057">Once you read my essay, I think you will understand my concer=
n about the motivation for your research, and its potential consequences. &=
nbsp; Superficially, and certainly to someone unfamiliar with my idea (Assa=
ssination Politics essay), I'm sure it sounds useful and indeed benef=
icial to try to prevent the construction and operation of "criminal contrac=
ts". One problem that I see, as a lifetime libertarian, is that "cri=
minal" may mean no more than "what the government wants to ban" rather than=
an actual victim crime. Worse, governments are powerfully motivated =
to prevent developments that will someday likely destroy them.</span></div>=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_5503" class=3D"">I suggest that you study the analyses of Bob =
Vroman <a href=3D"http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.t=
cl?msg_id=3D009ape" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5754">http://www.green=
spun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=3D009ape</a> , &n=
bsp; <a href=3D"http://www.mail-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@min=
der.net/msg02068.html" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6269">http://www.ma=
il-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@minder.net/msg02068.html</a> &n=
bsp; and of Bob Murphy, </span><span style=3D"font-size: small;=
font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1442825109502_5851" class=3D"">www.anti-state.</span><wbr style=3D"font-s=
ize: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5853" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: small=
; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1442825109502_5855" class=3D"">com/murphy/</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 2=
0.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5857" class=3D"">murphy17</span=
><span style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-heig=
ht: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5859" class=3D"">.</span><=
span style=3D"font-size: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans=
-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5861" cla=
ss=3D"">html</span> (although the Murphy essay might not be ava=
ilable, except as an archive.) as well as by R. Sukumaran  =
; <a href=3D"http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAss=
assinationandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1442825109502_5597" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" cl=
ass=3D"">http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAssassinatio=
nandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html</a>. </div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr">Further, consider<br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"> <a href=3D"https://github.com=
/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/master/content/anarchism/game-theory-=
anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-the-state.md" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
2825109502_6139">https://github.com/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/ma=
ster/content/anarchism/game-theory-anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-t=
he-state.md</a></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=
=3D"https://c4ss.org/content/1157" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6418">h=
ttps://c4ss.org/content/1157</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282510=
9502_5058"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><a href=3D"http://archive.is/zYH0e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6562=
" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">series -- anti-state.com<=
/a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.red=
dit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrec=
tionist_ancapism/" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6678">https://www.reddi=
t.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrecti=
onist_ancapism/</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr">There is=
a lot more where this comes from.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825=
109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_65=
95" dir=3D"ltr">Keep in mind that when I wrote the AP essay, technologies s=
uch as Tor, Bitcoin, and especially Ethereum and Augur simply did not exist=
. But today they do, or at least they soon will. And that, I consider=
to be an extremely good thing.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_=
6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=
=3D"ltr">So perhaps you will understand that I consider that trying to prev=
ent _all_ "criminal contracts" from being formed is a major, and indeed dan=
gerous mistake. While I do not believe that such an effort can ever s=
ucceed, I think it would be best not to try.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109=
502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"> Jim Bell</div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6680"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6738"><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4963"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helvet=
icaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-=
size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4962"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4961"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5198"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14428251=
09502_4964"> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6555"><span style=3D"font-=
weight:bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6554">From:</span></b> Ari J=
uels <juels(a)cornell.edu><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To=
:</span></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br><b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "runting(a)gmail.com" <runting(a)gmail.com>=
;; "akosba(a)cs.umd.edu" <akosba(a)cs.umd.edu> <br> <b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 16, 2015 2:32 PM<br>=
<b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5055"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5054">Subject:</span></b> Re: Your pape=
r on criminal contracts<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" i=
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4966">Dear Mr. Bell,</div>
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e and follow-up. We=E2=80=99re indeed planning to read your essay and cite =
it as appropriate in our next paper revision (slated to come out in January=
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Dear Professors Juels (<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
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ttp://www.arijuels.com/</a>) and Shi (<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:runting@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:runting=
@gmail.com">runting(a)gmail.com</a>), and Ahmed Kosba <a rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:akosba@cs.umd.edu" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:akosba@cs.umd.edu">akosba(a)cs.umd.edu</a> : I've f=
ound a reference
to your recent paper, <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
href=3D"http://www.initc3.org/publications.html" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5047">http://www.initc3.org/publications.html</a>. "The Ring =
of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime." Perhaps you are not=
aware, but 20 years ago (1995-6) I wrote an essay on a very similar
subject. I called it "Assassination Politics". cryptome.org/ap=
.htm . Jim Bell</di=
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Subject: Your paper on criminal contracts
Dear Professors Juels (http://www.arijuels.com/) and Shi (runting(a)gmail.com=
), and Ahmed Kosba =C2=A0akosba(a)cs.umd.edu :=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I've found a refe=
rence to your recent paper, http://www.initc3.org/publications.html.=C2=A0 =
"The Ring of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime."=C2=A0=C2=A0 Perhaps y=
ou are not aware, but 20 years ago (1995-6) I wrote an essay on a very simi=
lar subject. =C2=A0I called it "Assassination Politics". =C2=A0cryptome.org=
/ap.htm . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4958">Your paper: <a href=3D=
"https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&so=
urce=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drja&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwi=
F_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-conte=
nt%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpublic_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmH=
TOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zCi016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cG=
U" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_8900">https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt=
&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drj=
a&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwiF_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=
=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpubli=
c_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmHTOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zC=
i016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cGU</a></span></div><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442=
825109502_8941">Thank you for your reply, Dr. Juels, </span></div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5059"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5057">Once you read my essay, I think you will understand my concer=
n about the motivation for your research, and its potential consequences. &=
nbsp; Superficially, and certainly to someone unfamiliar with my idea (Assa=
ssination Politics essay), I'm sure it sounds useful and indeed benef=
icial to try to prevent the construction and operation of "criminal contrac=
ts". One problem that I see, as a lifetime libertarian, is that "cri=
minal" may mean no more than "what the government wants to ban" rather than=
an actual victim crime. Worse, governments are powerfully motivated =
to prevent developments that will someday likely destroy them.</span></div>=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_5503" class=3D"">I suggest that you study the analyses of Bob =
Vroman <a href=3D"http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.t=
cl?msg_id=3D009ape" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5754">http://www.green=
spun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=3D009ape</a> , &n=
bsp; <a href=3D"http://www.mail-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@min=
der.net/msg02068.html" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6269">http://www.ma=
il-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@minder.net/msg02068.html</a> &n=
bsp; and of Bob Murphy, </span><span style=3D"font-size: small;=
font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1442825109502_5851" class=3D"">www.anti-state.</span><wbr style=3D"font-s=
ize: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5853" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: small=
; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1442825109502_5855" class=3D"">com/murphy/</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 2=
0.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5857" class=3D"">murphy17</span=
><span style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-heig=
ht: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5859" class=3D"">.</span><=
span style=3D"font-size: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans=
-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5861" cla=
ss=3D"">html</span> (although the Murphy essay might not be ava=
ilable, except as an archive.) as well as by R. Sukumaran  =
; <a href=3D"http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAss=
assinationandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1442825109502_5597" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" cl=
ass=3D"">http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAssassinatio=
nandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html</a>. </div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr">Further, consider<br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"> <a href=3D"https://github.com=
/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/master/content/anarchism/game-theory-=
anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-the-state.md" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
2825109502_6139">https://github.com/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/ma=
ster/content/anarchism/game-theory-anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-t=
he-state.md</a></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=
=3D"https://c4ss.org/content/1157" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6418">h=
ttps://c4ss.org/content/1157</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282510=
9502_5058"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><a href=3D"http://archive.is/zYH0e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6562=
" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">series -- anti-state.com<=
/a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.red=
dit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrec=
tionist_ancapism/" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6678">https://www.reddi=
t.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrecti=
onist_ancapism/</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr">There is=
a lot more where this comes from.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825=
109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_65=
95" dir=3D"ltr">Keep in mind that when I wrote the AP essay, technologies s=
uch as Tor, Bitcoin, and especially Ethereum and Augur simply did not exist=
. But today they do, or at least they soon will. And that, I consider=
to be an extremely good thing.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_=
6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=
=3D"ltr">So perhaps you will understand that I consider that trying to prev=
ent _all_ "criminal contracts" from being formed is a major, and indeed dan=
gerous mistake. While I do not believe that such an effort can ever s=
ucceed, I think it would be best not to try.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109=
502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"> Jim Bell</div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6680"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6738"><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4963"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helvet=
icaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-=
size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4962"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4961"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5198"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14428251=
09502_4964"> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6555"><span style=3D"font-=
weight:bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6554">From:</span></b> Ari J=
uels <juels(a)cornell.edu><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To=
:</span></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br><b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "runting(a)gmail.com" <runting(a)gmail.com>=
;; "akosba(a)cs.umd.edu" <akosba(a)cs.umd.edu> <br> <b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 16, 2015 2:32 PM<br>=
<b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5055"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5054">Subject:</span></b> Re: Your pape=
r on criminal contracts<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" i=
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4966">Dear Mr. Bell,</div>
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4970">Thank you for your original not=
e and follow-up. We=E2=80=99re indeed planning to read your essay and cite =
it as appropriate in our next paper revision (slated to come out in January=
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Dear Professors Juels (<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
href=3D"http://www.arijuels.com/" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5046">h=
ttp://www.arijuels.com/</a>) and Shi (<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:runting@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:runting=
@gmail.com">runting(a)gmail.com</a>), and Ahmed Kosba <a rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:akosba@cs.umd.edu" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:akosba@cs.umd.edu">akosba(a)cs.umd.edu</a> : I've f=
ound a reference
to your recent paper, <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
href=3D"http://www.initc3.org/publications.html" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5047">http://www.initc3.org/publications.html</a>. "The Ring =
of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime." Perhaps you are not=
aware, but 20 years ago (1995-6) I wrote an essay on a very similar
subject. I called it "Assassination Politics". cryptome.org/ap=
.htm . Jim Bell</di=
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Subject: Your paper on criminal contracts
Dear Professors Juels (http://www.arijuels.com/) and Shi (runting(a)gmail.com=
), and Ahmed Kosba =C2=A0akosba(a)cs.umd.edu :=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I've found a refe=
rence to your recent paper, http://www.initc3.org/publications.html.=C2=A0 =
"The Ring of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime."=C2=A0=C2=A0 Perhaps y=
ou are not aware, but 20 years ago (1995-6) I wrote an essay on a very simi=
lar subject. =C2=A0I called it "Assassination Politics". =C2=A0cryptome.org=
/ap.htm . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4958">Your paper: <a href=3D=
"https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&so=
urce=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drja&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwi=
F_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-conte=
nt%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpublic_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmH=
TOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zCi016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cG=
U" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_8900">https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt=
&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D3&cad=3Drj=
a&uact=3D8&ved=3D0CCsQFjACahUKEwiF_b_E7IfIAhWQmIgKHc_tAuY&url=
=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.arijuels.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2Fpubli=
c_gyges.pdf&usg=3DAFQjCNHOBvCYwJ5Aq0CmHTOY53sGdRs5Sw&sig2=3DL_lh-zC=
i016f7Y3jbKVKlQ&bvm=3Dbv.103073922,d.cGU</a></span></div><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4959" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442=
825109502_8941">Thank you for your reply, Dr. Juels, </span></div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5059"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5057">Once you read my essay, I think you will understand my concer=
n about the motivation for your research, and its potential consequences. &=
nbsp; Superficially, and certainly to someone unfamiliar with my idea (Assa=
ssination Politics essay), I'm sure it sounds useful and indeed benef=
icial to try to prevent the construction and operation of "criminal contrac=
ts". One problem that I see, as a lifetime libertarian, is that "cri=
minal" may mean no more than "what the government wants to ban" rather than=
an actual victim crime. Worse, governments are powerfully motivated =
to prevent developments that will someday likely destroy them.</span></div>=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_5503" class=3D"">I suggest that you study the analyses of Bob =
Vroman <a href=3D"http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.t=
cl?msg_id=3D009ape" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5754">http://www.green=
spun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=3D009ape</a> , &n=
bsp; <a href=3D"http://www.mail-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@min=
der.net/msg02068.html" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6269">http://www.ma=
il-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@minder.net/msg02068.html</a> &n=
bsp; and of Bob Murphy, </span><span style=3D"font-size: small;=
font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1442825109502_5851" class=3D"">www.anti-state.</span><wbr style=3D"font-s=
ize: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5853" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: small=
; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1442825109502_5855" class=3D"">com/murphy/</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 2=
0.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5857" class=3D"">murphy17</span=
><span style=3D"font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-heig=
ht: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5859" class=3D"">.</span><=
span style=3D"font-size: small; font-weight: bold; font-family: arial, sans=
-serif; line-height: 20.2222px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5861" cla=
ss=3D"">html</span> (although the Murphy essay might not be ava=
ilable, except as an archive.) as well as by R. Sukumaran  =
; <a href=3D"http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAss=
assinationandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html" id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1442825109502_5597" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" cl=
ass=3D"">http://www.idsa.in/strategicanalysis/CryptologyDigitalAssassinatio=
nandtheTerrorismFuturesMarket_rsukumaran_0404.html</a>. </div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr">Further, consider<br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"> <a href=3D"https://github.com=
/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/master/content/anarchism/game-theory-=
anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-the-state.md" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
2825109502_6139">https://github.com/isislovecruft/patternsinthevoid/blob/ma=
ster/content/anarchism/game-theory-anarchism-ii-how-information-can-smash-t=
he-state.md</a></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=
=3D"https://c4ss.org/content/1157" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6418">h=
ttps://c4ss.org/content/1157</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282510=
9502_5058"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058" dir=3D"ltr=
"><a href=3D"http://archive.is/zYH0e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6562=
" style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">series -- anti-state.com<=
/a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5058"><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.red=
dit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrec=
tionist_ancapism/" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6678">https://www.reddi=
t.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2jo578/arguments_for_against_insurrecti=
onist_ancapism/</a><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr">There is=
a lot more where this comes from.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825=
109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_65=
95" dir=3D"ltr">Keep in mind that when I wrote the AP essay, technologies s=
uch as Tor, Bitcoin, and especially Ethereum and Augur simply did not exist=
. But today they do, or at least they soon will. And that, I consider=
to be an extremely good thing.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_=
6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6595" dir=
=3D"ltr">So perhaps you will understand that I consider that trying to prev=
ent _all_ "criminal contracts" from being formed is a major, and indeed dan=
gerous mistake. While I do not believe that such an effort can ever s=
ucceed, I think it would be best not to try.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109=
502_6595" dir=3D"ltr"> Jim Bell</div><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6680"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
442825109502_6738"><br></div> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4963"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helvet=
icaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-=
size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4962"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4961"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144282=
5109502_5198"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14428251=
09502_4964"> <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6555"><span style=3D"font-=
weight:bold;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_6554">From:</span></b> Ari J=
uels <juels(a)cornell.edu><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To=
:</span></b> jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> <br><b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "runting(a)gmail.com" <runting(a)gmail.com>=
;; "akosba(a)cs.umd.edu" <akosba(a)cs.umd.edu> <br> <b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 16, 2015 2:32 PM<br>=
<b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5055"><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_5054">Subject:</span></b> Re: Your pape=
r on criminal contracts<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" i=
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4966">Dear Mr. Bell,</div>
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442825109502_4970">Thank you for your original not=
e and follow-up. We=E2=80=99re indeed planning to read your essay and cite =
it as appropriate in our next paper revision (slated to come out in January=
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CRYPTO-GRAM
June 15, 2009
by Bruce Schneier
Chief Security Technology Officer, BT
schneier(a)schneier.com
http://www.schneier.com
A free monthly newsletter providing summaries, analyses, insights, and
commentaries on security: computer and otherwise.
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In this issue:
Obama's Cybersecurity Speech
"Lost" Puzzle in Wired Magazine
Last Month's Terrorism Arrests
News
Me on Full-Body Scanners in Airports
Schneier News
The Doghouse: Net1
Cloud Computing
The Second Interdisciplinary Workshop on Security and
Human Behaviour
Comments from Readers
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Obama's Cybersecurity Speech
I am optimistic about President Obama's new cybersecurity policy and the
appointment of a new "cybersecurity coordinator," though much depends on
the details. What we do know is that the threats are real, from identity
theft to Chinese hacking to cyberwar.
His principles were all welcome -- securing government networks,
coordinating responses, working to secure the infrastructure in private
hands (the power grid, the communications networks, and so on), although
I think he's overly optimistic that legislation won't be required. I was
especially heartened to hear his commitment to funding research. Much of
the technology we currently use to secure cyberspace was developed from
university research, and the more of it we finance today the more secure
we'll be in a decade.
Education is also vital, although sometimes I think my parents need more
cybersecurity education than my grandchildren do. I also appreciate the
president's commitment to transparency and privacy, both of which are
vital for security.
But the details matter. Centralizing security responsibilities has the
downside of making security more brittle by instituting a single
approach and a uniformity of thinking. Unless the new coordinator
distributes responsibility, cybersecurity won't improve.
As the administration moves forward on the plan, two principles should
apply. One, security decisions need to be made as close to the problem
as possible. Protecting networks should be done by people who understand
those networks, and threats needs to be assessed by people close to the
threats. But distributed responsibility has more risk, so oversight is
vital.
Two, security coordination needs to happen at the highest level
possible, whether that's evaluating information about different threats,
responding to an Internet worm or establishing guidelines for protecting
personal information. The whole picture is larger than any single agency.
This essay originally appeared on The New York Times website, along with
several others commenting on Obama's speech.
http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/29/a-plan-of-attack-in-cyber…
All the essays are worth reading, although I want to specifically quote
James Bamford making an important point I've repeatedly made: "The
history of White House czars is not a glorious one as anyone who has
followed the rise and fall of the drug czars can tell. There is a lot of
hype, a White House speech, and then things go back to normal. Power,
the ability to cause change, depends primarily on who controls the money
and who is closest to the president's ear. Because the new cyber czar
will have neither a checkbook nor direct access to President Obama, the
role will be more analogous to a traffic cop than a czar."
Gus Hosein wrote a good essay on the need for privacy: "Of course
raising barriers around computer systems is certainly a good start. But
when these systems are breached, our personal information is left
vulnerable. Yet governments and companies are collecting more and more
of our information. The presumption should be that all data collected
is vulnerable to abuse or theft. We should therefore collect only what
is absolutely required."
I wrote something similar to my essay above in 2002, about the creation
of the Department of Homeland Security: "The human body defends itself
through overlapping security systems. It has a complex immune system
specifically to fight disease, but disease fighting is also distributed
throughout every organ and every cell. The body has all sorts of
security systems, ranging from your skin to keep harmful things out of
your body, to your liver filtering harmful things from your bloodstream,
to the defenses in your digestive system. These systems all do their own
thing in their own way. They overlap each other, and to a certain extent
one can compensate when another fails. It might seem redundant and
inefficient, but it's more robust, reliable, and secure. You're alive
and reading this because of it."
More news links on Obama's speech:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/30/us/politics/30cyber.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/05/obama_cybersecurity_is…
or http://tinyurl.com/lrp9cm
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i9mgJb3EsMIaA6aVcbSkp84g0…
or http://tinyurl.com/maz4lh
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/052909-obama-security-coordinator.html
or http://tinyurl.com/lbge8m
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/05/29/obamas-cybersecurity-speech-why-…
or http://tinyurl.com/l8vhwf
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/29/obama_creates_cyber_post/
Good commentary from Gene Spafford:
http://www.cerias.purdue.edu/site/blog/post/on_cyber_czars_and_60-day_repor…
or http://tinyurl.com/nalj74
Good commentary from Bob Blakley:
http://notabob.blogspot.com/2009/06/cyber-security.html
Me in 2002:
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0212.html#3
A copy of this essay, with all embedded links, is here:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/obamas_cybersec.html
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"Lost" Puzzle in Wired Magazine
For the April 09 issue of Wired Magazine, I was asked to create a
cryptographic puzzle based on the television show Lost. Specifically, I
was given a "clue" to encrypt.
Details are in the links. Creating something like this is very hard.
The puzzle needs to be hard enough that people don't figure it out
immediately, and easy enough that people eventually do figure it out.
To make matters even more complicated, people will share their ideas on
the Internet. So if the solution requires -- and I'm making this up --
expertise in Mayan history, carburetor design, algebraic topology, and
Russian folk dancing, those people are likely to come together on the
Internet. The puzzle has to be challenging for the group mind, not just
for individual minds.
http://mestizorocks.blogspot.com/2009/05/spoiler-alert-lost-puzzle-solution…
or http://tinyurl.com/oy8bok
http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2009/04/lost_wired_puzz.html
http://bradicali.blogspot.com/2009/04/major-major-progression-on-lost-numbe…
or http://tinyurl.com/n9dfdj
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Last Month's Terrorism Arrests
I have four points to make on the arrest of the three men for plotting
to blow up synagogues in New York. One: There was little danger of an
actual terrorist attack: "Authorities said the four men have long been
under investigation and there was little danger they could actually have
carried out their plan, NBC News' Pete Williams reported."
And: "'They never got anywhere close to being able to do anything,' one
official told NBC News. 'Still, it's good to have guys like this off
the street.'"
Of course, politicians are using this incident to peddle more fear:
"'This was a very serious threat that could have cost many, many lives
if it had gone through,' Representative Peter T. King, Republican from
Long Island, said in an interview with WPIX-TV. 'It would have been a
horrible, damaging tragedy. There's a real threat from homegrown
terrorists and also from jailhouse converts.'"
Two, they were caught by traditional investigation and intelligence.
Not airport security. Not warrantless eavesdropping. But old-fashioned
investigation and intelligence. This is what works. This is what keeps
us safe. I wrote an essay in 2004 that says exactly that. "The only
effective way to deal with terrorists is through old-fashioned police
and intelligence work -- discovering plans before they're implemented
and then going after the plotters themselves."
Three, they were idiots: "The ringleader of the four-man homegrown
terror cell accused of plotting to blow up synagogues in the Bronx and
military planes in Newburgh admitted to a judge today that he had smoked
pot before his bust last night.
"When U.S. Magistrate Judge Lisa M. Smith asked James Cromitie if his
judgment was impaired during his appearance in federal court in White
Plains, the 55-year-old confessed: 'No. I smoke it regularly. I
understand everything you are saying.'"
Four, an "informant" helped this group a lot: "In April, Mr. Cromitie
and the three other men selected the synagogues as their targets, the
statement said. The informant soon helped them get the weapons, which
were incapable of being fired or detonated, according to the authorities."
The warning I wrote in "Portrait of the Modern Terrorist as an Idiot" is
timely again: "Despite the initial press frenzies, the actual details of
the cases frequently turn out to be far less damning. Too often it's
unclear whether the defendants are actually guilty, or if the police
created a crime where none existed before."
Actually, that whole 2007 essay is timely again. Some things never change.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30856404/
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/nyregion/21arrests.html
http://www.schneier.com/essay-038.html
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Accused-.html
My "Portrait of the Modern Terrorist as an Idiot"
http://www.schneier.com/essay-174.html
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News
Kylin is a secure operating system from China. Seems to be a Linux variant.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/12/china-bolsters-for-cyber-arms-r…
or http://tinyurl.com/qfwjos
A great movie-plot threat: pirates in Chesapeake Bay.
http://blogs.mddailyrecord.com/ontherecord/2009/05/12/pirates-on-the-bay/
or http://tinyurl.com/rch6xz
Remember: if you don't like something, claim that it will enable,
embolden, or entice terrorists. Works every time.
Invisible ink pen:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/invisible_ink_p.html
Microsoft bans memcopy() from its code base. Interesting discussion in
comments about whether this helps, or is mostly cosmetic.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/microsoft_bans.html
Your home/work location pair can uniquely identify you. This is very
troubling, given the number of location-based services springing up and
the number of databases that are collecting location data.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/on_the_anonymit.html
IEDs are now weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/ieds_are_now_we.html
Research into the insecurity of "secret questions."
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/secret_question.html
Defending against movie-plot threats with movie characters:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/defending_again.html
Fantastic automatic dice thrower, a random number generator for computer
games.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/automatic_dice.html
Steganography using TCP retransmission. I don't think these sorts of
things have any large-scale applications, but they are clever.
http://arxiv.org/abs/0905.0363
What do you do if you have too many background checks to do for people's
security clearances, and not enough time to do them?
http://www.federaltimes.com/index.php?S=4104591
It's all a matter of incentives. The investigators were rewarded for
completing investigations, not for doing them well.
Man held for hours by immigration officials because he had no fingerprints:
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE54Q42P20090527?feedTy…
or http://tinyurl.com/l6rbyq
And in other biometric news, four states have banned smiling in driver's
license photographs.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-25-licenses_N.htm
Research on movie-plot threats: "Emerging Threats and Security Planning:
How Should We Decide What Hypothetical Threats to Worry About?"
http://www.rand.org/pubs/occasional_papers/OP256/
http://www.rand.org/pubs/occasional_papers/2009/RAND_OP256.pdf
Secret government communications cables buried around Washington, DC:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/secret_govermen.html
This month's movie-plot idea: arming the Boston police with
semi-automatic rifles:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/boston_police_g.html
I don't know how I missed this great series from Slate in February.
It's eight essays exploring why there have been no follow-on terrorist
attacks in the U.S. since 9/11 (not counting the anthrax mailings, I
guess). Read the whole thing.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/why_is_terroris.html
http://slate.com/id/2213025
In May's Crypto-Gram, I blogged about the Boston police seizing a
student's computer for, among other things, running Linux. Earlier this
month, the Massachusetts Supreme Court threw out the search warrant.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/update_on_compu.html
This combination door lock is very pretty. Of course, four digits is
too short an entry code, but I like the overall design and the automatic
rescrambling feature. It's just a prototype, and not even a physical
one at that.
http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/05/29/twist-shout-about-forgotting-the-code/
or http://tinyurl.com/lcv4tj
Earlier this year, I blogged about a self-defense pen that is likely to
easily pass through airport security. On the other hand, this normal
pen in the shape of a bullet will probably get you in trouble.
http://www.pencity.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/Fisher/375BulletBP.htm?L+scstor…
or http://tinyurl.com/qtv8nn
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/03/self-defense_pe.html
Time for some more fear about terrorists using maps and images. (I
thought I wrote a good blog post, but Crypto-Gram is already too long
this month. So read it online, please.)
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/fear_of_aerial.html
If you think that under-20-year-olds don't care about privacy, this is
an eloquent op-ed by two students about why CCTV cameras have no place
in their UK school.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2009/jun/03/cctv-cla…
or http://tinyurl.com/pjtz2f
Here's a site that sells corrupted MS Word files. The idea is that you
e-mail one of the files to your professor when your homework is due,
buying you a few hours -- or maybe days -- of extra time before your
professor notices that it's corrupted. On the one hand, this is clever.
But on the other hand, it's services like these that will force
professors to treat corrupted attachments as work not yet turned in, and
harm innocent homework submitters.
http://www.corrupted-files.com/Word.html
Here's how to make a corrupted pdf file for free:
http://blog.didierstevens.com/2009/06/09/quickpost-make-your-own-corrupted-…
Teaching children to spot terrorists: you can't make this stuff up.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/teaching_first-.html
Industry differences in types of security breaches.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/industry_differ.html
Malware steals ATM data
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/malware_steals.html
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Me on Full-Body Scanners in Airports
I'm very happy with this quote in a CNN.com story on "whole-body
imaging" at airports:
"Bruce Schneier, an internationally recognized security technologist,
said whole-body imaging technology 'works pretty well,' privacy rights
aside. But he thinks the financial investment was a mistake. In a
post-9/11 world, he said, he knows his position isn't 'politically
tenable,' but he believes money would be better spent on
intelligence-gathering and investigations.
"'It's stupid to spend money so terrorists can change plans,' he said by
phone from Poland, where he was speaking at a conference. If terrorists
are swayed from going through airports, they'll just target other
locations, such as a hotel in Mumbai, India, he said.
"'We'd be much better off going after bad guys ... and back to pre-9/11
levels of airport security,' he said. "There's a huge "cover your ass"
factor in politics, but unfortunately, it doesn't make us safer.'"
I've written about "cover your ass" security in the past, but it's nice
to see it in the press.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/05/18/airport.security.body.scans/?iref=…
or http://tinyurl.com/le9skw
Me on CYA security:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/cya_security_1.html
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Schneier News
Marcus Ranum and I did two video versions of our Face-Off column: one on
cloud computing:
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/video/0,297151,sid14_gci1355568,00.html
or http://tinyurl.com/plvkkr
And the other on who should be in charge of cyber-security:
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/video/0,297151,sid14_gci1355883,00.html
or http://tinyurl.com/p9eznn
Another interview with me on cloud computing:
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/video/2240924/bruce-schneier-cloud-security
or http://tinyurl.com/dlrv56
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The Doghouse: Net1
>From its website: "The FTS Patent has been acclaimed by leading
cryptographic authorities around the world as the most innovative and
secure protocol ever invented to manage offline and online smart card
related transactions. Please see the independent report by Bruce
Schneider [sic] in his book entitled Applied Cryptography, 2nd Edition
published in the late 1990s."
After I posted this on my blog, someone -- probably from the company --
said that it was referring to the UEPS protocol, discussed on page 589.
I still don't like the hyperbole and the implied endorsement in the quote.
http://www.aplitec.co.za/Products/Security.html
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Cloud Computing
This year's overhyped IT concept is cloud computing. Also called
software as a service (Saas), cloud computing is when you run software
over the internet and access it via a browser. The Salesforce.com
customer management software is an example of this. So is Google Docs.
If you believe the hype, cloud computing is the future.
But hype aside, cloud computing is nothing new. It's the modern version
of the timesharing model from the 1960s, which was eventually killed by
the rise of the personal computer. It's what Hotmail and Gmail have been
doing all these years, and it's social networking sites, remote backup
companies, and remote email filtering companies such as MessageLabs. Any
IT outsourcing -- network infrastructure, security monitoring, remote
hosting -- is a form of cloud computing.
The old timesharing model arose because computers were expensive and
hard to maintain. Modern computers and networks are drastically cheaper,
but they're still hard to maintain. As networks have become faster, it
is again easier to have someone else do the hard work. Computing has
become more of a utility; users are more concerned with results than
technical details, so the tech fades into the background.
But what about security? Isn't it more dangerous to have your email on
Hotmail's servers, your spreadsheets on Google's, your personal
conversations on Facebook's, and your company's sales prospects on
salesforce.com's? Well, yes and no.
IT security is about trust. You have to trust your CPU manufacturer,
your hardware, operating system and software vendors -- and your ISP.
Any one of these can undermine your security: crash your systems,
corrupt data, allow an attacker to get access to systems. We've spent
decades dealing with worms and rootkits that target software
vulnerabilities. We've worried about infected chips. But in the end, we
have no choice but to blindly trust the security of the IT providers we use.
Saas moves the trust boundary out one step further -- you now have to
also trust your software service vendors -- but it doesn't fundamentally
change anything. It's just another vendor we need to trust.
There is one critical difference. When a computer is within your
network, you can protect it with other security systems such as
firewalls and IDSs. You can build a resilient system that works even if
those vendors you have to trust may not be as trustworthy as you like.
With any outsourcing model, whether it be cloud computing or something
else, you can't. You have to trust your outsourcer completely. You not
only have to trust the outsourcer's security, but its reliability, its
availability, and its business continuity.
You don't want your critical data to be on some cloud computer that
abruptly disappears because its owner goes bankrupt. You don't want the
company you're using to be sold to your direct competitor. You don't
want the company to cut corners, without warning, because times are
tight. Or raise its prices and then refuse to let you have your data
back. These things can happen with software vendors, but the results
aren't as drastic.
There are two different types of cloud computing customers. The first
only pays a nominal fee for these services -- and uses them for free in
exchange for ads: e.g., Gmail and Facebook. These customers have no
leverage with their outsourcers. You can lose everything. Companies like
Google and Amazon won't spend a lot of time caring. The second type of
customer pays considerably for these services: to Salesforce.com,
MessageLabs, managed network companies, and so on. These customers have
more leverage, providing they write their service contracts correctly.
Still, nothing is guaranteed.
Trust is a concept as old as humanity, and the solutions are the same as
they have always been. Be careful who you trust, be careful what you
trust them with, and be careful how much you trust them. Outsourcing is
the future of computing. Eventually we'll get this right, but you don't
want to be a casualty along the way.
This essay originally appeared in The Guardian.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/04/bruce-schneier-cloud-compu…
or http://tinyurl.com/op7p7k
Another opinion:
http://1raindrop.typepad.com/1_raindrop/2009/06/begin-the-begin-cloud-secur…
or http://tinyurl.com/mnc3lb
A rebuttal:
http://www.rationalsurvivability.com/blog/?p=952
http://www.rationalsurvivability.com/blog/?p=1013
The reason I am talking so much about cloud computing is that reporters
and inverviewers keep asking me about it. I feel kind of dragged into
this whole thing.
At the Computers, Freedom, and Privacy conference earlier this month,
Bob Gellman said that the nine most important words in cloud computing
are: "terms of service," "location, location, location," and "provider,
provider, provider" -- basically making the same point I did. You need
to make sure the terms of service you sign up for are ones you can live
with. You need to make sure the location of the provider doesn't
subject you to any laws you can't live with. And you need to make sure
your provider is someone you're willing to work with. Basically, if
you're going to give someone else your data, you need to trust them.
http://www.worldprivacyforum.org/cloudprivacy.html
A copy of this essay, with all embedded links, is here:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/cloud_computing.html
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The Second Interdisciplinary Workshop on Security and
Human Behaviour
Last week, I was at SHB09, the Second Interdisciplinary Workshop on
Security and Human Behaviour, at MIT. This was a two-day gathering of
computer security researchers, psychologists, behavioral economists,
sociologists, philosophers, and others -- all of whom are studying the
human side of security -- organized by Ross Anderson, Alessandro
Acquisti, and myself. I liveblogged the workshop; here are the talk
summaries. (People were invited to submit a link for themselves, and
links to applicable things they wrote. Those links will be included
after each talk summary.)
The first session was about deception, moderated by David Clark.
Frank Stajano, Cambridge University, presented research with Paul
Wilson, who films actual scams for "The Real Hustle." His point is that
we build security systems based on our "logic," but users don't always
follow our logic. It's fraudsters who really understand what people do,
so we need to understand what the fraudsters understand. Things like
distraction, greed, unknown accomplices, social compliance are important.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/
Usability of Security Management: Defining the Permissions of Guests
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/papers/2006-JohnsonSta-guests.pdf
David Livingstone Smith, University of New England, is a philosopher by
training, and goes back to basics: "What are we talking about?" A
theoretical definition -- "that which something has to have to fall
under a term" -- of deception is difficult to define. "Cause to have a
false belief," from the Oxford English Dictionary, is inadequate. "To
deceive is intentionally have someone to have a false belief" also
doesn't work. "Intentionally causing someone to have a false belief that
the speaker knows to be false" still isn't good enough. The fundamental
problem is that these are anthropocentric definitions. Deception is not
unique to humans; it gives organisms an evolutionary edge. For example,
the mirror orchid fools a wasp into landing on it by looking like and
giving off chemicals that mimic the female wasp. This example shows that
we need a broader definition of "purpose." His formal definition: "For
systems A and B, A deceives B iff A possesses some character C with
proper function F, and B possesses a mechanism C* with the proper
function F* of producing representations, such that the proper function
of C is to cause C* to fail to perform F* by causing C* to form false
representations, and C does so in virtue of performing F, and B's
falsely representing enables some feature of A to perform its proper
function."
http://www.realhumannature.com
Less than human: self-deception in the imagining of others
http://realhumannature.com/?page_id=61
Talk on Lying at La Ciudad de Las Ideas
http://www.laciudaddeideas.com/ciudad2/play.php?vid=106
a subsequent discussion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnjpoOhwEzk
Why War?
http://realhumannature.com/?page_id=26
I spoke next, about the psychology of Conficker, how the human brain
buys security, and why science fiction writers shouldn't be hired to
think about terrorism risks (to be published on Wired.com this week).
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/04/conficker.html
http://www.schneier.com/essay-232.html
Dominic Johnson, University of Edinburgh, talked about his chapter in
the book Natural Security: A Darwinian Approach to a Dangerous World.
Life has 3.5 billion years of experience in security innovation; let's
look at how biology approaches security. Biomimicry, ecology,
paleontology, animal behavior, evolutionary psychology, immunology,
epidemiology, selection, and adaption are all relevant. Redundancy is a
very important survival tool for species. Here's an adaption example:
The 9/11 threat was real and we knew about it, but we didn't do
anything. His thesis: Adaptation to novel security threats tends to
occur after major disasters. There are many historical examples of this;
Pearl Harbor, for example. Causes include sensory biases, psychological
biases, leadership biases, organizational biases, and political biases
-- all pushing us towards maintaining the status quo. So it's natural
for us to poorly adapt to security threats in the modern world. A
questioner from the audience asked whether control theory had any
relevance to this model.
http://dominicdpjohnson.com/
Paradigm Shifts in Security Strategy
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/johnsond1.pdf
Perceptions of victory and defeat
http://dominicdpjohnson.com/publications/books.html
Jeff Hancock, Cornell University, studies interpersonal deception: how
the way we lie to each other intersects with communications
technologies; and how technologies change the way we lie, and can
technology be used to detect lying? Despite new technology, people lie
for traditional reasons. For example: on dating sites, men tend to lie
about their height and women tend to lie about their weight. The
recordability of the Internet also changes how we lie. The use of the
first person singular tends to go down the more people lie. He verified
this in many spheres, such as how people describe themselves in chat
rooms, and true versus false statements that the Bush administration
made about 9/11 and Iraq. The effect was more pronounced when
administration officials were answering questions than when they were
reading prepared remarks.
http://www.comm.cornell.edu/staff/employee/jeffrey_t_hancock.html
On Lying and Being Lied To: A Linguistic Analysis of Deception in
Computer-Mediated Communication
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/hancock1.pdf
Separating Fact From Fiction: An Examination of Deceptive
Self-Presentation in Online Dating Profiles
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/hancock2.pdf
The second session was about fraud. (These session subjects are only
general. We tried to stick related people together, but there was the
occasional oddball -- and scheduling constraint -- to deal with.)
Julie Downs, Carnegie Mellon University, is a psychologist who studies
how people make decisions, and talked about phishing. To determine how
people respond to phishing attempts -- what e-mails they open and when
they click on links -- she watched as people interacted with their
e-mail. She found that most people's strategies to deal with phishing
attacks might have been effective 5-10 years ago, but are no longer
sufficient now that phishers have adapted. She also found that educating
people about phishing didn't make them more effective at spotting
phishing attempts, but made them more likely to be afraid of doing
anything on line. She found this same overreaction among people who were
recently the victims of phishing attacks, but again people were no
better separating real e-mail from phishing attempts. What does make a
difference is contextual understanding: how to parse a URL, how and why
the scams happen, what SSL does and doesn't do.
http://sds.hss.cmu.edu/src/faculty/downs.php
Behavioral Response to Phishing Risk
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/downs1.pdf
Parents' vaccination comprehension and decisions
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/downs2.pdf
The Psychology of Food Consumption
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/downs3.pdf
Jean Camp, Indiana University, studies people taking risks online. Four
points: 1) "people create mental models from internal narratives about
risk," 2) "risk mitigating action is taken only if the risk is perceived
as relevant," 3) "contextualizing risk can show risks as relevant," and
4) "narrative can increase desire and capacity to use security tools."
Stories matter: "people are willing to wash out their cat food cans and
sweep up their sweet gum balls to be a good neighbor, but allow their
computers to join zombie networks" because there's a good story in the
former and none in the latter. She presented two experiments to
demonstrate this. One was a video experiment watching business majors
try to install PGP. No one was successful: there was no narrative, and
the mixed metaphor of physical and cryptographic "key" confused people.
http://www.ljean.com/
Experimental Evaluation of Expert and Non-expert Computer Users' Mental
Models of Security Risks
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb08/camp.pdf
Matt Blaze, University of Pennsylvania, talked about electronic voting
machines and fraud. He related the anecdote about actual electronic
voting machine vote fraud in Kentucky from the second link. In the
question session, he speculated about the difficulty of having a
security model that would have captured the problem, and how to know
whether that model was complete enough.
http://www.crypto.com/
Electronic vote rigging in Kentucky
http://www.crypto.com/blog/vote_fraud_in_kentucky/
Jeffrey Friedberg, Microsoft, discussed research at Microsoft around the
Trust User Experience (TUX). He talked about the difficulty of verifying
SSL certificates. Then he talked about how Microsoft added a "green bar"
to signify trusted sites, and how people who learned to trust the green
bar were fooled by "picture in picture attacks": where a hostile site
embedded a green-bar browser window in its page. Most people don't
understand that the information inside the browser window is arbitrary,
but that the stuff around it is not. The user interface, user
experience, mental models all matter. Designing and evaluating TUX is
hard. From the questions: training doesn't help much, because given a
plausible story, people will do things counter to their training.
http://www.mccullagh.org/image/10d-14/jeffrey-friedberg-microsoft.html
Internet Fraud Battlefield
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/friedberg.pdf
End to End Trust and the Trust User Experience
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/endtoendtrust/blogPosting.aspx?blogSour…
Testimony on "spyware"
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/friedberg/04-29spyware.mspx
Stuart Schechter, Microsoft, presented this research on secret
questions. Basically, secret questions don't work. They're easily
guessable based on the most common answers; friends and relatives of
people can easily predict unique answers; and people forget their
answers. Even worse, the more memorable the question/answers are, the
easier they are to guess. Having people write their own questions is no
better: "What's my blood type?" "How tall am I?"
http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~stuart/
It's no secret
http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/79594/oakland09.pdf
The Emperor's New Security Indicators
http://usablesecurity.org/emperor/emperor.pdf
Tyler Moore, Harvard University, discussed his empirical studies on
online crime and defense. Fraudsters are good at duping users, but
they're also effective at exploiting failures among IT professionals to
perpetuate the infrastructure necessary to carry out these exploits on a
large scale (hosting fake web pages, sending spam, laundering the
profits via money mules, and so on). There is widespread refusal among
the defenders to cooperate with each other, and attackers exploit these
limitations. We are better at removing phishing websites than we are at
defending against the money mules. Defenders tend to fix immediate
problems, but not underlying problems.
http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~tmoore/
The Consequences of Non-Cooperation in the Fight Against Phishing
http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~tmoore/ecrime08.pdf
Information Security Economics -- and Beyond
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/econ_czech.pdf
In the discussion phase, there was a lot of talk about the relationships
between websites, like banks, and users -- and how that affects security
for both good and bad. Jean Camp doesn't want a relationship with her
bank, because that unduly invests her in the bank. (Someone from the
audience pointed out that, as a U.S. taxpayer, she is already invested
in her bank.) Angela Sasse said that the correct metaphor is "rules of
engagement," rather than relationships.
Session three was titled "Usability."
Andrew Patrick, NRC Canada until he was laid off four days ago, talked
about biometric systems and human behavior. Biometrics are used
everywhere: for gym membership, at Disneyworld, at international
borders. The government of Canada is evaluating using iris recognition
at a distance for events like the 2010 Olympics. There are two different
usability issues: with respect to the end user, and with respect to the
authenticator. People's acceptance of biometrics is very much dependent
on the context. And of course, biometrics are not secret. Patrick
suggested that to defend ourselves against this proliferation of using
biometrics for authentication, the individual should publish them. The
rationale is that we're publishing them anyway, so we might as well do
it knowingly.
http://andrewpatrick.ca
Fingerprint Concerns: Performance, Usability, and Acceptance of
Fingerprint Biometric Systems
http://www.andrewpatrick.ca/essays/fingerprint-concerns-performance-usabili…
Luke Church, Cambridge University, talked about what he called
"user-centered design." There's a economy of usability: "in order to
make some things easier, we have to make some things harder" -- so it
makes sense to make the commonly done things easier at the expense of
the rarely done things. This has a lot of parallels with security. The
result is "appliancisation" (with a prize for anyone who come up with a
better name): the culmination of security behaviors and what the system
can do embedded in a series of user choices. Basically, giving users
meaningful control over their security. Luke discussed several benefits
and problems with the approach.
http://www.lukechurch.net
SHB Position Paper
http://www.lukechurch.net/Professional/Publications/SHB-2009-06-TheUserExpe…
Usability and the Common Criteria
http://www.lukechurch.net/Professional/Publications/WISA-2008-09-Introducin…
Diana Smetters, Palo Alto Research Center, started with these premises:
you can teach users, but you can't teach them very much, so you'd better
carefully design systems so that you 1) minimize what they have to
learn, 2) make it easier for them to learn it, and 3) maximize the
benefit from what they learn. Too often, security is at odds with
getting the job done. "As long as configuration errors (false alarms)
are common, any technology that requires users to observe security
indicators and react to them will fail as attacks can simply masquerade
as errors, and users will rationally ignore them." She recommends
meeting the user halfway by building new security models that actually
fit the users' needs. (For example: Phishing is a mismatch problem,
between what's in the user's head and where the URL is actually going.
SSL doesn't work, but how should websites authenticate themselves to
users? Her solution is protected links: a set of secure bookmarks in
protected browsers. She went on to describe a prototype and tests run
with user subjects.
http://www.parc.com/about/people/176/diana-smetters.html
Breaking out of the browser to defend against phishing attacks
http://www.parc.com/publication/2068/breaking-out-of-the-browser-to-defend-…
Building secure mashups
http://www.parc.com/publication/2054/building-secure-mashups.html
Ad-hoc guesting: when exceptions are the rule
http://www.usenix.org/event/upsec08/tech/full_papers/dalal/dalal.pdf
Jon Callas, PGP Corporation, used the metaphor of the "security cliff":
you have to keep climbing until you get to the top and that's hard, so
it's easier to just stay at the bottom. He wants more of a "security
ramp," so people can reasonably stop somewhere in the middle. His idea
is to have a few policies -- e-mail encryption, rules about USB drives
-- and enforce them. This works well in organizations, where IT has
dictatorial control over user configuration. If we can't teach users
much, we need to enforce policies on users.
http://www.pgp.com/company/management.html
Improving Message Security With a Self-Assembling PKI
http://middleware.internet2.edu/pki03/presentations/03.pdf
Rob Reeder, Microsoft, presented a possible solution to the secret
questions problem: social authentication. The idea is to use people you
know (trustees) to authenticate who you are, and have them attest to the
fact that you lost your password. He went on to describe how the
protocol works, as well as several potential attacks against the
protocol and defenses, and experiments that tested the protocol. In the
question session he talked about people designating themselves as
trustees, and how that isn't really a problem.
http://www.robreeder.com/
Expanding Grids for Visualizing and Authoring Computer Security Policies
http://www.robreeder.com/pubs/xGridsCHI2008.pdf
Lorrie Cranor, Carnegie Mellon University, talked about security
warnings. The best option is to fix the hazard; the second best is to
guard against it -- but far too often we just warn people about it. But
since hazards are generally not very hazardous, most people just ignore
them. "Often, software asks the user and provides little or no
information to help user make this decision." Better is to use some sort
of automated analysis to assist the user in responding to warnings. For
websites, for example, the system should block sites with a high
probability of danger, not bother users if there is a low probably of
danger, and help the user make the decision in the grey area. She went
on to describe a prototype and user studies done with the prototype; her
paper will be presented at USENIX Security in August.
http://lorrie.cranor.org/
A Framework for Reasoning About the Human in the Loop
http://www.cylab.cmu.edu/default.aspx?id=2396
Timing Is Everything? The Effects of Timing and Placement of Online
Privacy Indicators
http://www.guanotronic.com/~serge/papers/chi09a.pdf
School of Phish: A Real-Word Evaluation of Anti-Phishing Training
http://www.cylab.cmu.edu/research/techreports/tr_cylab09002.html
You've Been Warned: An Empirical Study of the Effectiveness of Web
Browser Phishing Warnings
http://www.guanotronic.com/~serge/papers/warned.pdf
Much of the discussion centered on how bad the problem really is, and
how much security is good enough. The group also talked about economic
incentives companies have to either fix or ignore security problems, and
whether market approaches (or, as Jean Camp called it, "the happy
Libertarian market pony") are sufficient. Some companies have incentives
to convince users to do the wrong thing, or at the very least to do
nothing. For example, social networking sites are more valuable if
people share their information widely.
Further discussion was about whitelisting, and whether it worked or not.
There's the problem of the bad guys getting on the whitelist, and the
risk that organizations like the RIAA will use the whitelist to enforce
copyright, or that large banks will use the whitelist as a tool to block
smaller start-up banks. Another problem is that the user might not
understand what a whitelist signifies.
Dave Clark from the audience: "It's not hard to put a seat belt on, and
if you need a lesson, take a plane." Kind of a one-note session. We
definitely need to invite more psych people next time.
David Livingstone Smith moderated the fourth session, about (more or
less) methodology.
Angela Sasse, University College London, has been working on usable
security for over a dozen years. As part of a project called "Trust
Economics," she looked at whether people comply with security policies
and why they either do or do not. She found that there is a limit to the
amount of effort people will make to comply -- this is less actual cost
and more perceived cost. Strict and simple policies will be complied
with more than permissive but complex policies. Compliance detection,
and reward or punishment, also affect compliance. People justify
noncompliance by "frequently made excuses."
http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/a.sasse/
The Compliance Budget: Managing Security Behaviour in Organisations
http://hornbeam.cs.ucl.ac.uk/hcs/publications/Beautement+Sasse+Wonham_The%2…
Human Vulnerabilities in Security Systems
http://www.ktn.qinetiq-tim.net/files/Public/whitepapers/HFWG%20White%20Pape…
Bashar Nuseibeh, Open University, talked about mobile phone security;
specifically, Facebook privacy on mobile phones. He did something clever
in his experiments. Because he wasn't able to interview people at the
moment they did something -- he worked with mobile users -- he asked
them to provide a "memory phrase" that allowed him to effectively
conduct detailed interviews at a later time. This worked very well, and
resulted in all sorts of information about why people made privacy
decisions at that earlier time.
A Multi-Pronged Empirical Approach to Mobile Privacy Investigation
http://mcs.open.ac.uk/ban25/
Security Requirements Engineering: A Framework for Representation and
Analysis
http://mcs.open.ac.uk/ban25/papers/Haley-TSE-04359475-for_web.pdf
James Pita, University of Southern California, studies security
personnel who have to guard a physical location. In his analysis, there
are limited resources -- guards, cameras, etc. -- and a set of locations
that need to be guarded. An example would be the Los Angeles airport,
where a finite number of K-9 units need to guard eight terminals. His
model uses a Stackelberg game to minimize predictability (otherwise, the
adversary will learn it and exploit it) while maximizing security. There
are complications -- observational uncertainty and bounded rationally on
the part of the attackers -- which he tried to capture in his model.
http://teamcore.usc.edu/pita/
http://mcs.open.ac.uk/ban25/papers/chi2008-Mancini-et-al.pdf
Deployed ARMOR Protection: The Application of a Game Theoretic Model for
Security at the Los Angeles International Airport
http://teamcore.usc.edu/pita/publications/2008/AAMASind2008Final.pdf
Markus Jakobsson, Palo Alto Research Center, pointed out that auto
insurers ask people if they smoke in order to get a feeling for whether
they engage in high-risk behaviors. In his experiment, he selected 100
people who were the victim of online fraud and 100 people who were not.
He then asked them to complete a survey about different physical risks
such as mountain climbing and parachute jumping, financial risks such as
buying stocks and real estate, and Internet risks such as visiting porn
sites and using public wi-fi networks. He found significant correlation
between different risks, but I didn't see an overall pattern emerge. And
in the discussion phase, several people had questions about the data.
More analysis, and probably more data, is required. To be fair, he was
still in the middle of his analysis.
http://www.informatics.indiana.edu/markus/
Male, late with your credit card payment, and like to speed? You will be
phished!
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/jakobsson-shb09.pdf
Social Phishing
http://www.indiana.edu/~phishing/social-network-experiment/phishing-preprin…
Love and Authentication
http://www.ravenwhite.com/files/chi08JSWY.pdf
Quantifying the Security of Preference-Based Authentication
http://www.ravenwhite.com/files/quantifying.pdf
Rachel Greenstadt, Drexel University, discussed ways in which humans and
machines can collaborate in making security decisions. These decisions
are hard for several reasons: because they are context dependent,
require specialized knowledge, are dynamic, and require complex risk
analysis. And humans and machines are good at different sorts of tasks.
Machine-style authentication: This guy I'm standing next to knows Jake's
private key, so he must be Jake. Human-style authentication: This guy
I'm standing next to looks like Jake and sounds like Jake, so he must be
Jake. The trick is to design systems that get the best of these two
authentication styles and not the worst. She described two experiments
examining two decisions: should I log into this website (the phishing
problem), and should I publish this anonymous essay or will my
linguistic style betray me?
http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~greenie
Practical Attacks Against Authorship Recognition Techniques (pre-print)
http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~greenie/brennan_paper.pdf
Reinterpreting the Disclosure Debate for Web Infections
http://weis2008.econinfosec.org/papers/Greenstadt.pdf
Mike Roe, Microsoft, talked about crime in online games, particularly in
Second Life and Metaplace. There are four classes of people on online
games: explorers, socializers, achievers, and griefers. Griefers try to
annoy socializers in social worlds like Second Life, or annoy achievers
in competitive worlds like World of Warcraft. Crime is not necessarily
economic; criminals trying to steal money is much less of a problem in
these games than people just trying to be annoying. In the question
session, Dave Clark said that griefers are a constant, but economic
fraud grows over time. I responded that the two types of attackers are
different people, with different personality profiles. I also pointed
out that there is another kind of attacker: achievers who use illegal
mechanisms to assist themselves.
http://research.microsoft.com/users/mroe/
In the discussion, Peter Neumann pointed out that safety is an emergent
property, and requires security, reliability, and survivability. Others
weren't so sure.
The first session of the second day was "Foundations," which is kind of
a catch-all for a variety of things that didn't really fit anywhere
else. Rachel Greenstadt moderated.
Terence Taylor, International Council for the Live Sciences, talked
about the lessons evolution teaches about living with risk. Successful
species didn't survive by eliminating the risks of their environment,
they survived by adaptation. Adaptation isn't always what you think. For
example, you could view the collapse of the Soviet Union as a failure to
adapt, but you could also view it as successful adaptation. Risk is
good. Risk is essential for the survival of a society, because
risk-takers are the drivers of change. In the discussion phase, John
Mueller pointed out a key difference between human and biological
systems: humans tend to respond dramatically to anomalous events (the
anthrax attacks), while biological systems respond to sustained change.
And David Livingstone Smith asked about the difference between
biological adaptation that affects the reproductive success of an
organism's genes, even at the expense of the organism, with security
adaptation. (I recommend the book he edited: Natural Security: A
Darwinian Approach to a Dangerous World.)
http://www.iclscharter.org/people.html
Darwinian Security
http://www.darwiniansecurity.org
Natural Security
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=job2avPAbgU
Andrew Odlyzko, University of Minnesota, discussed human-space vs.
cyberspace. People cannot build secure systems -- we know that -- but
people also cannot live with secure systems. We require a certain amount
of flexibility in our systems. And finally, people don't need secure
systems. We survive with an astounding amount of insecurity in our
world. The problem with cyberspace is that it was originally conceived
as separate from the physical world, and that it could correct for the
inadequacies of the physical world. Really, the two are intertwined, and
that human space more often corrects for the inadequacies of cyberspace.
Lessons: build messy systems, not clean ones; create a web of ties to
other systems; create permanent records.
http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzko/
Network Neutrality, Search Neutrality, and the Never-Ending Conflict
Between Efficiency and Fairness in Markets
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/odlyzko.pdf
Economics, psychology, and sociology of security
http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzko/doc/econ.psych.security.pdf
danah boyd, Microsoft Research, does ethnographic studies of teens in
cyberspace. Teens tend not to lie to their friends in cyberspace, but
they lie to the system. Since an early age, they've been taught that
they need to lie online to be safe. Teens regularly share their
passwords: with their parents when forced, or with their best friend or
significant other. This is a way of demonstrating trust. It's part of
the social protocol for this generation. In general, teens don't use
social media in the same way as adults do. And when they grow up, they
won't use social media in the same way as today's adults do. Teens view
privacy in terms of control, and take their cues about privacy from
celebrities and how they use social media. And their sense of privacy is
much more nuanced and complicated. In the discussion phase, danah wasn't
sure whether the younger generation would be more or less susceptible to
Internet scams than the rest of us -- they're not nearly as technically
savvy as we might think they are. "The only thing that saves teenagers
is fear of their parents"; they try to lock them out, and lock others
out in the process. Socio-economic status matters a lot, in ways that
she is still trying to figure out. There are three different types of
social networks: personal networks, articulated networks, and behavioral
networks, and they're different.
http://www.danah.org
Taken Out of Context -- American Teen Sociality in Networked Publics
http://www.danah.org/papers/TakenOutOfContext.pdf
Mark Levine, Lancaster University. He collected data from UK CCTV
cameras, searches for aggressive behavior, and studies when and how
bystanders either help escalate or de-escalate the situations. Results:
as groups get bigger, there is no increase of anti-social acts and a
significant increase in pro-social acts. He has much more analysis and
results, too complicated to summarize here. One key finding: when a
third party intervenes in an aggressive interaction, it is much more
likely to de-escalate. Basically, groups can act against violence. "When
it comes to violence (and security), group processes are part of the
solution -- not part of the problem?"
http://www.psych.lancs.ac.uk/people/MarkLevine.html
The Kindness of Crowds
http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13176759
Intra-group Regulation of Violence: Bystanders and the (De)-escalation
of Violence
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/levine1.pdf
Jeff MacKie-Mason, University of Michigan, is an economist: "Security
problems are incentive problems." He discussed motivation, and how to
design systems to take motivation into account. Humans are smart
devices; they can't be programmed, but they can be influenced through
the sciences of motivational behavior: microeconomics, game theory,
social psychology, psychodynamics, and personality psychology. He gave a
couple of general examples of how these theories can inform security
system design.
http://jeff-mason.com
Humans are smart devices, but not programmable
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/mackie-mason.pdf
Security when people matter
http://hdl.handle.net/2027.42/55773
A Social Mechanism for Supporting Home Computer Security
http://hdl.handle.net/2027.42/63006
Joe Bonneau, Cambridge University, talked about social networks like
Facebook, and privacy. People misunderstand why privacy and security is
important in social networking sites like Facebook. People underestimate
of what Facebook really is; it really is a reimplementation of the
entire Internet. "Everything on the Internet is becoming social," and
that makes security different. Phishing is different, 419-style scams
are different. Social context makes some scams easier; social networks
are fun, noisy, and unpredictable. "People use social networking systems
with their brain turned off." But social context can be used to spot
frauds and anomalies, and can be used to establish trust.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~jcb82/
Session Six -- "Terror" -- chaired by Stuart Schechter.
Bill Burns, Decision Research, studies social reaction to risk. He
discussed his theoretical model of how people react to fear events, and
data from the 9/11 attacks, the 7/7 bombings in the UK, and the 2008
financial collapse. Basically, we can't remain fearful. No matter what
happens, fear spikes immediately after and recovers 45 or so days
afterwards. He believes that the greatest mistake we made after 9/11 was
labeling the event as terrorism instead of an international crime.
http://www.decisionresearch.org/people/burns/
The Diffusion of Fear: Modeling Community Response to a Terrorist Strike
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb08/burns.pdf
Chris Cocking, London Metropolitan University, looks at the group
behavior of people responding to emergencies. Traditionally, most
emergency planning is based on the panic model: people in crowds are
prone to irrational behavior and panic. There's also a social attachment
model that predicts that social norms don't break down in groups. He
prefers a self-categorization approach: disasters create a common
identity, which results in orderly and altruistic behavior among
strangers. The greater the threat, the greater the common identity, and
spontaneous resilience can occur. He displayed a photograph of "panic"
in New York on 9/11 and showed how it wasn't panic at all. Panic seems
to be more a myth than a reality. This has policy implications during an
event: provide people with information, and people are more likely to
underreact than overreact, if there is overreaction, it's because people
are acting as individuals rather than groups, so those in authority
should encourage a sense of collective identity. "Crowds can be part of
the solution rather than part of the problem."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4702659.stm
Effects of social identity on responses to emergency mass evacuation
http://www.sussex.ac.uk/affiliates/panic/
Richard John, University of Southern California, talked about the
process of social amplification of risk (with respect to terrorism).
Events result in relatively small losses; it's the changes in behavior
following an event that result in much greater losses. There's a dynamic
of risk perception, and it's very contextual. He uses vignettes to study
how risk perception changes over time, and discussed some of the studies
he's conducting and ideas for future studies.
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/psyc/people/faculty1003386.html
Decision Analysis by Proxy for the Rational Terrorist
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/john1.pdf
Mark Stewart, University of Newcastle, Australia, examines
infrastructure security and whether the costs exceed the benefits. He
talked about cost/benefit trade-off, and how to apply probabilistic
terrorism risk assessment; then, he tried to apply this model to the
U.S. Federal Air Marshal Service. His result: they're not worth it. You
can quibble with his data, but the real value is a transparent process.
During the discussion, I said that it is important to realize that risks
can't be taken in isolation, that anyone making a security trade-off is
balancing several risks: terrorism risks, political risks, the personal
risks to his career, etc.
http://www.newcastle.edu.au/research-centre/cipar/
A risk and cost-benefit assessment of United States aviation security
measures
http://polisci.osu.edu/faculty/jmueller/STEWJTS.PDF
Risk and Cost-Benefit Assessment of Counter-Terrorism Protective
Measures to Infrastructure
http://nova.newcastle.edu.au/vital/access/manager/Repository/uon:3125
John Adams, University College London, applies his risk thermostat model
to terrorism. He presented a series of amusing photographs of
overreactions to risk, most of them not really about risk aversion but
more about liability aversion. He talked about bureaucratic paranoia, as
well as bureaucratic incitements to paranoia, and how this is beginning
to backfire. People treat risks differently, depending on whether they
are voluntary, impersonal, or imposed, and whether people have total
control, diminished control, or no control.
http://john-adams.co.uk/about/
Deus e Brasileiro?
http://john-adams.co.uk/2008/12/31/deus-e-brasileiro/
Can Science Beat Terrorism?
http://john-adams.co.uk/2009/03/06/the-world-under-assault-can-science-beat…
Bicycle bombs: a further inquiry
http://john-adams.co.uk/2009/01/16/bicycle-bombs-a-further-enquiry-and-a-ne…
Dan Gardner, Ottawa Citizen, talked about how the media covers risks,
threats, attacks, etc. He talked about the various ways the media screws
up, all of which were familiar to everyone. His thesis is not that the
media gets things wrong in order to increase readership/viewership and
therefore profits, but that the media gets things wrong because
reporters are human. Bad news bias is not a result of the media hyping
bad news, but the natural human tendency to remember the bad more than
the good. The evening news is centered around stories because people --
including reporters -- respond to stories, and stories with novelty,
emotion, and drama are better stories.
http://www.amazon.com/Science-Fear-Shouldnt-Ourselves-Greater/dp/0525950621
Some of the discussion was about the nature of panic: whether and where
it exists, and what it looks like. Someone from the audience questioned
whether panic was related to proximity to the event; someone else
pointed out that people very close to the 7/7 bombings took pictures and
made phone calls -- and that there was no evidence of panic. Also, on
9/11 pretty much everyone below where the airplanes struck the World
Trade Center got out safely; and everyone above couldn't get out, and
died. Angela Sasse pointed out that the previous terrorist attack
against the World Trade Center, and the changes made in evacuation
procedures afterwards, contributed to the lack of panic on 9/11. Bill
Burns said that the purest form of panic is a drowning person. Jean Camp
asked whether the recent attacks against women's health providers should
be classified as terrorism, or whether we are better off framing it as
crime. There was also talk about sky marshals and their effectiveness. I
said that it isn't sky marshals that are a deterrent, but the idea of
sky marshals. Terence Taylor said that increasing uncertainty on the
part of the terrorists is, in itself, a security measure. There was also
a discussion about how risk-averse terrorists are; they seem to want to
believe they have an 80% or 90% change of success before they will
launch an attack.
The penultimate session of the conference was "Privacy," moderated by
Tyler Moore.
Alessandro Acquisti, Carnegie Mellon University, presented research on
how people value their privacy. He started by listing a variety of
cognitive biases that affect privacy decisions: illusion of control,
overconfidence, optimism bias, endowment effect, and so on. He discussed
two experiments. The first demonstrated a "herding effect": if a subject
believes that others reveal sensitive behavior, the subject is more
likely to also reveal sensitive behavior. The second examined the "frog
effect": do privacy intrusions alert or desensitize people to revealing
personal information? What he found is that people tend to set their
privacy level at the beginning of a survey, and don't respond well to
being asked easy questions at first and then sensitive questions at the
end. In the discussion, Joe Bonneau asked him about the notion that
people's privacy protections tend to ratchet up over time; he didn't
have conclusive evidence, but gave several possible explanations for the
phenomenon.
http://www.heinz.cmu.edu/~acquisti/
What Can Behavioral Economics Teach Us About Privacy?
http://www.heinz.cmu.edu/~acquisti/papers/Acquisti-Grossklags-Chapter-Etric…
Privacy in Electronic Commerce and the Economics of Immediate Gratification
http://www.heinz.cmu.edu/~acquisti/papers/privacy-gratification.pdf
Adam Joinson, University of Bath, also studies how people value their
privacy. He talked about expressive privacy -- privacy that allows
people to express themselves and form interpersonal relationships. His
research showed that differences between how people use Facebook in
different countries depend on how much people trust Facebook as a
company, rather than how much people trust other Facebook users. Another
study looked at posts from Secret Tweet and Twitter. He found 16 markers
that allowed him to automatically determine which tweets contain
sensitive personal information and which do not, with high probability.
Then he tried to determine if people with large Twitter followings post
fewer secrets than people who are only twittering to a few people. He
found absolutely no difference.
http://www.joinson.com/
Privacy, Trust and Self-Disclosure Online
http://people.bath.ac.uk/aj266/pubs_pdf/joinson_et_al_HCI_final.pdf
Privacy concerns and privacy actions
http://people.bath.ac.uk/aj266/pubs_pdf/ijhcs.pdf
Peter Neumann, SRI, talked about lack of medical privacy (too many
people have access to your data), about voting (the privacy problem
makes the voting problem a lot harder, and the end-to-end voting
security/privacy problem is much harder than just securing voting
machines), and privacy in China (the government is requiring all
computers sold in China to be sold with software allowing them to
eavesdrop on the users). Any would-be solution needs to reflect the
ubiquity of the threat. When we design systems, we need to anticipate
what the privacy problems will be. Privacy problems are everywhere you
look, and ordinary people have no idea of the depth of the problem.
http://www.csl.sri.com/users/neumann/
Holistic systems
http://www.csl.sri.com/neumann/holistic.pdf
Risks
http://www.csl.sri.com/users/neumann/#3
Identity and Trust in Context
http://www.csl.sri.com/neumann/idtrust09+x4.pdf
Eric Johnson, Dartmouth College, studies the information access problem
from a business perspective. He's been doing field studies in companies
like retail banks and investment banks, and found that role-based access
control fails because companies can't determine who has what role. Even
worse, roles change quickly, especially in large complex organizations.
For example, one business group of 3000 people experiences 1000 role
changes within three months. The result is that organizations do access
control badly, either over-entitling or under-entitling people. But
since getting the job done is the most important thing, organizations
tend to over-entitle: give people more access than they need. His
current work is to find the right set of incentives and controls to set
access more properly. The challege is to do this without making people
risk averse. In the discussion, he agreed that a perfect access control
system is not possible, and that organizations should probably allow a
certain amount of access control violations -- similar to the idea of
posting a 55 mph speed limit but not ticketing people unless they go
over 70 mph.
http://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/pages/faculty/eric.johnson/
Access Flexibility with Escalation and Audit
http://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/digital/Research/ResearchProjects/wise_v1.pdf
Security through Information Risk Management
http://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/digital/Research/ResearchProjects/JohnsonRisk…
Christine Jolls, Yale Law School, made the point that people regularly
share their most private information with their intimates -- so privacy
is not about secrecy, it's more about control. There are moments when
people make pretty big privacy decisions. For example, they grant
employers the rights to monitor their e-mail, or test their urine
without notice. In general, courts hold that blanket signing away of
privacy rights -- "you can test my urine on any day in the future" --
are not valid, but immediate signing away of privacy of privacy rights
-- "you can test my urine today" -- are. Jolls believes that this is
reasonable for several reasons, such as optimism bias and an overfocus
on the present at the expense of the future. Without realizing it, the
courts have implemented the system that behavioral economics would find
optimal. During the discussion, she talked about how coercion figures
into this; the U.S. legal system tends not to be concerned with it.
http://www.law.yale.edu/faculty/CJolls.htm
Rationality and Consent in Privacy Law
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/jolls1.pdf
Employee Privacy
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/jolls2.pdf
Andrew Adams, University of Reading, also looks at attitudes of privacy
on social networking services. His results are preliminary, and based on
interviews with university students in Canada, Japan, and the UK, and
are very concordant with what danah boyd and Joe Bonneau said earlier.
>From the UK: People join social networking sites to increase their
level of interaction with people they already know in real life.
Revealing personal information is okay, but revealing too much is bad.
Even more interestingly, it's not okay to reveal more about others than
they reveal themselves. From Japan: People are more open to making
friends online. There's more anonymity. It's not okay to reveal
information about others, but "the fault of this lies as much with the
person whose data was revealed in not choosing friends wisely." This
victim responsibility is a common theme with other privacy and security
elements in Japan. Data from Canada is still being compiled.
http://www.personal.rdg.ac.uk/~sis00aaa/
Regulating CCTV
http://deposit.depot.edina.ac.uk/119/
Great phrase: the "laundry belt" -- close enough for students to go home
on weekends with their laundry, but far enough away so they don't feel
as if their parents are looking over their shoulder -- typically two
hours by public transportation (in the UK).
The eighth, and final, session of the SHB09 was optimistically titled
"How Do We Fix the World?" I moderated, which meant that my liveblogging
was more spotty, especially in the discussion section.
David Mandel, Defense Research and Development Canada, is part of the
Thinking, Risk, and Intelligence Group at DRDC Toronto. His first
observation: "Be wary of purported world-fixers." His second
observation: when you claim that something is broken, it is important to
specify the respects in which it's broken and what fixed looks like. His
third observation: it is also important to analyze the consequences of
any potential fix. An analysis of the way things are is perceptually
based, but an analysis of the way things should be is value-based. He
also presented data showing that predictions made by intelligence
analysts (at least in one Canadian organization) were pretty good.
http://mandel.socialpsychology.org/
Applied Behavioral Science in Support of Intelligence Analysis
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/mandel.pdf
Radicalization: What does it mean?
http://individual.utoronto.ca/mandel/Mandel-radicalization.pdf
The Role of Instigators in Radicalization to Violent Extremism
http://individual.utoronto.ca/mandel/NATO_HFM140_Instigators_Mandel.pdf
Ross Anderson, Cambridge University, asked "Where's the equilibrium?"
Both privacy and security are moving targets, but he expects that
someday soon there will be a societal equilibrium. Incentives to price
discriminate go up, and the cost to do so goes down. He gave several
examples of database systems that reached very different equilibrium
points, depending on corporate lobbying, political realities, public
outrage, etc. He believes that privacy will be regulated, the only
question being when and how. "Where will the privacy boundary end up,
and why? How can we nudge it one way or another?"
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/
Database State
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/database-state.pdf
book chapters on psychology and terror
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SEv2-c02.pdf
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SEv2-c24.pdf
Alma Whitten, Google, presented a set of ideals about privacy (very
European like) and some of the engineering challenges they present.
"Engineering challenge #1: How to support access and control to personal
data that isn't authenticated? Engineering challenge #2: How to inform
users about both authenticated and unauthenticated data? Engineering
challenge #3: How to balance giving users control over data collection
versus detecting and stopping abuse? Engineering challenge #4: How to
give users fine-grained control over their data without overwhelming
them with options? Engineering challenge #5: How to link sequential
actions while preventing them from being linkable to a person?
Engineering challenge #6: How to make the benefits of aggregate data
analysis apparent to users? Engineering challenge #7: How to avoid or
detect inadvertent recording of data that can be linked to an
individual?" (Note that Alma requested not to be recorded.)
http://gaudior.net/alma/
Why Johnny can't encrypt: A usability evaluation of PGP 5.0
http://gaudior.net/alma/johnny.pdf
John Mueller, Ohio State University, talked about terrorism and the
Department of Homeland Security. Terrorism isn't a threat; it's a
problem and a concern, certainly, but the word "threat" is still
extreme. Al Qaeda isn't a threat, and they're the most serious potential
attacker against the U.S. and Western Europe. And terrorists are
overwhelmingly stupid. Meanwhile, the terrorism issue "has become a
self-licking ice cream cone." In other words, it's now an
ever-perpetuating government bureaucracy. There are virtually an
infinite number of targets; the odds of any one target being targeted is
effectively zero; terrorists pick targets largely at random; if you
protect target, it makes other targets less safe; most targets are
vulnerable in the physical sense, but invulnerable in the sense that
they can be rebuilt relatively cheaply (even something like the
Pentagon); some targets simply can't be protected; if you're going to
protect some targets, you need to determine if they should really be
protected. (I recommend his book, Overblown.)
http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jmueller/
Reacting to Terrorism: Probabilities, Consequences, and the Persistence
of Fear
http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jmueller/ISA2007T.PDF
Evaluating Measures to Protect the Homeland from Terrorism
http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jmueller/ISA9.PDF
Terrorphobia: Our False Sense of Insecurity
http://www.the-american-interest.com/ai2/article.cfm?Id=418&MId=19
Adam Shostack, Microsoft, pointed out that even the problem of figuring
out what part of the problem to work on first is difficult. One of the
issues is shame. We don't want to talk about what's wrong, so we can't
use that information to determine where we want to go. We make excuses
-- customers will flee, people will sue, stock prices will go down --
even though we know that those excuses have been demonstrated to be false.
http://www.homeport.org/~adam/
http://newschoolsecurity.com/
During the discussion, there was a lot of talk about the choice between
informing users and bombarding them with information they can't
understand. And lots more that I couldn't transcribe.
And that's it. SHB09 was a fantastic workshop, filled with interesting
people and interesting discussion. Next year in the other Cambridge.
Ross Anderson and Adam Shostack wrote talk summaries, too. And Matt
Blaze recorded audio:
http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2009/06/11/security-and-human-behaviour-…
http://newschoolsecurity.com/2009/06/shb-session-1-deception/
http://www.crypto.com/blog/shb09/
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June 15, 2009
by Bruce Schneier
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Obama's Cybersecurity Speech
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Obama's Cybersecurity Speech
I am optimistic about President Obama's new cybersecurity policy and the
appointment of a new "cybersecurity coordinator," though much depends on
the details. What we do know is that the threats are real, from identity
theft to Chinese hacking to cyberwar.
His principles were all welcome -- securing government networks,
coordinating responses, working to secure the infrastructure in private
hands (the power grid, the communications networks, and so on), although
I think he's overly optimistic that legislation won't be required. I was
especially heartened to hear his commitment to funding research. Much of
the technology we currently use to secure cyberspace was developed from
university research, and the more of it we finance today the more secure
we'll be in a decade.
Education is also vital, although sometimes I think my parents need more
cybersecurity education than my grandchildren do. I also appreciate the
president's commitment to transparency and privacy, both of which are
vital for security.
But the details matter. Centralizing security responsibilities has the
downside of making security more brittle by instituting a single
approach and a uniformity of thinking. Unless the new coordinator
distributes responsibility, cybersecurity won't improve.
As the administration moves forward on the plan, two principles should
apply. One, security decisions need to be made as close to the problem
as possible. Protecting networks should be done by people who understand
those networks, and threats needs to be assessed by people close to the
threats. But distributed responsibility has more risk, so oversight is
vital.
Two, security coordination needs to happen at the highest level
possible, whether that's evaluating information about different threats,
responding to an Internet worm or establishing guidelines for protecting
personal information. The whole picture is larger than any single agency.
This essay originally appeared on The New York Times website, along with
several others commenting on Obama's speech.
http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/29/a-plan-of-attack-in-cyber…
All the essays are worth reading, although I want to specifically quote
James Bamford making an important point I've repeatedly made: "The
history of White House czars is not a glorious one as anyone who has
followed the rise and fall of the drug czars can tell. There is a lot of
hype, a White House speech, and then things go back to normal. Power,
the ability to cause change, depends primarily on who controls the money
and who is closest to the president's ear. Because the new cyber czar
will have neither a checkbook nor direct access to President Obama, the
role will be more analogous to a traffic cop than a czar."
Gus Hosein wrote a good essay on the need for privacy: "Of course
raising barriers around computer systems is certainly a good start. But
when these systems are breached, our personal information is left
vulnerable. Yet governments and companies are collecting more and more
of our information. The presumption should be that all data collected
is vulnerable to abuse or theft. We should therefore collect only what
is absolutely required."
I wrote something similar to my essay above in 2002, about the creation
of the Department of Homeland Security: "The human body defends itself
through overlapping security systems. It has a complex immune system
specifically to fight disease, but disease fighting is also distributed
throughout every organ and every cell. The body has all sorts of
security systems, ranging from your skin to keep harmful things out of
your body, to your liver filtering harmful things from your bloodstream,
to the defenses in your digestive system. These systems all do their own
thing in their own way. They overlap each other, and to a certain extent
one can compensate when another fails. It might seem redundant and
inefficient, but it's more robust, reliable, and secure. You're alive
and reading this because of it."
More news links on Obama's speech:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/30/us/politics/30cyber.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/05/obama_cybersecurity_is…
or http://tinyurl.com/lrp9cm
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i9mgJb3EsMIaA6aVcbSkp84g0…
or http://tinyurl.com/maz4lh
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/052909-obama-security-coordinator.html
or http://tinyurl.com/lbge8m
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/05/29/obamas-cybersecurity-speech-why-…
or http://tinyurl.com/l8vhwf
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/29/obama_creates_cyber_post/
Good commentary from Gene Spafford:
http://www.cerias.purdue.edu/site/blog/post/on_cyber_czars_and_60-day_repor…
or http://tinyurl.com/nalj74
Good commentary from Bob Blakley:
http://notabob.blogspot.com/2009/06/cyber-security.html
Me in 2002:
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0212.html#3
A copy of this essay, with all embedded links, is here:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/obamas_cybersec.html
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"Lost" Puzzle in Wired Magazine
For the April 09 issue of Wired Magazine, I was asked to create a
cryptographic puzzle based on the television show Lost. Specifically, I
was given a "clue" to encrypt.
Details are in the links. Creating something like this is very hard.
The puzzle needs to be hard enough that people don't figure it out
immediately, and easy enough that people eventually do figure it out.
To make matters even more complicated, people will share their ideas on
the Internet. So if the solution requires -- and I'm making this up --
expertise in Mayan history, carburetor design, algebraic topology, and
Russian folk dancing, those people are likely to come together on the
Internet. The puzzle has to be challenging for the group mind, not just
for individual minds.
http://mestizorocks.blogspot.com/2009/05/spoiler-alert-lost-puzzle-solution…
or http://tinyurl.com/oy8bok
http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2009/04/lost_wired_puzz.html
http://bradicali.blogspot.com/2009/04/major-major-progression-on-lost-numbe…
or http://tinyurl.com/n9dfdj
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Last Month's Terrorism Arrests
I have four points to make on the arrest of the three men for plotting
to blow up synagogues in New York. One: There was little danger of an
actual terrorist attack: "Authorities said the four men have long been
under investigation and there was little danger they could actually have
carried out their plan, NBC News' Pete Williams reported."
And: "'They never got anywhere close to being able to do anything,' one
official told NBC News. 'Still, it's good to have guys like this off
the street.'"
Of course, politicians are using this incident to peddle more fear:
"'This was a very serious threat that could have cost many, many lives
if it had gone through,' Representative Peter T. King, Republican from
Long Island, said in an interview with WPIX-TV. 'It would have been a
horrible, damaging tragedy. There's a real threat from homegrown
terrorists and also from jailhouse converts.'"
Two, they were caught by traditional investigation and intelligence.
Not airport security. Not warrantless eavesdropping. But old-fashioned
investigation and intelligence. This is what works. This is what keeps
us safe. I wrote an essay in 2004 that says exactly that. "The only
effective way to deal with terrorists is through old-fashioned police
and intelligence work -- discovering plans before they're implemented
and then going after the plotters themselves."
Three, they were idiots: "The ringleader of the four-man homegrown
terror cell accused of plotting to blow up synagogues in the Bronx and
military planes in Newburgh admitted to a judge today that he had smoked
pot before his bust last night.
"When U.S. Magistrate Judge Lisa M. Smith asked James Cromitie if his
judgment was impaired during his appearance in federal court in White
Plains, the 55-year-old confessed: 'No. I smoke it regularly. I
understand everything you are saying.'"
Four, an "informant" helped this group a lot: "In April, Mr. Cromitie
and the three other men selected the synagogues as their targets, the
statement said. The informant soon helped them get the weapons, which
were incapable of being fired or detonated, according to the authorities."
The warning I wrote in "Portrait of the Modern Terrorist as an Idiot" is
timely again: "Despite the initial press frenzies, the actual details of
the cases frequently turn out to be far less damning. Too often it's
unclear whether the defendants are actually guilty, or if the police
created a crime where none existed before."
Actually, that whole 2007 essay is timely again. Some things never change.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30856404/
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/nyregion/21arrests.html
http://www.schneier.com/essay-038.html
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Accused-.html
My "Portrait of the Modern Terrorist as an Idiot"
http://www.schneier.com/essay-174.html
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News
Kylin is a secure operating system from China. Seems to be a Linux variant.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/12/china-bolsters-for-cyber-arms-r…
or http://tinyurl.com/qfwjos
A great movie-plot threat: pirates in Chesapeake Bay.
http://blogs.mddailyrecord.com/ontherecord/2009/05/12/pirates-on-the-bay/
or http://tinyurl.com/rch6xz
Remember: if you don't like something, claim that it will enable,
embolden, or entice terrorists. Works every time.
Invisible ink pen:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/invisible_ink_p.html
Microsoft bans memcopy() from its code base. Interesting discussion in
comments about whether this helps, or is mostly cosmetic.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/microsoft_bans.html
Your home/work location pair can uniquely identify you. This is very
troubling, given the number of location-based services springing up and
the number of databases that are collecting location data.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/on_the_anonymit.html
IEDs are now weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/ieds_are_now_we.html
Research into the insecurity of "secret questions."
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/secret_question.html
Defending against movie-plot threats with movie characters:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/defending_again.html
Fantastic automatic dice thrower, a random number generator for computer
games.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/05/automatic_dice.html
Steganography using TCP retransmission. I don't think these sorts of
things have any large-scale applications, but they are clever.
http://arxiv.org/abs/0905.0363
What do you do if you have too many background checks to do for people's
security clearances, and not enough time to do them?
http://www.federaltimes.com/index.php?S=4104591
It's all a matter of incentives. The investigators were rewarded for
completing investigations, not for doing them well.
Man held for hours by immigration officials because he had no fingerprints:
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE54Q42P20090527?feedTy…
or http://tinyurl.com/l6rbyq
And in other biometric news, four states have banned smiling in driver's
license photographs.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-25-licenses_N.htm
Research on movie-plot threats: "Emerging Threats and Security Planning:
How Should We Decide What Hypothetical Threats to Worry About?"
http://www.rand.org/pubs/occasional_papers/OP256/
http://www.rand.org/pubs/occasional_papers/2009/RAND_OP256.pdf
Secret government communications cables buried around Washington, DC:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/secret_govermen.html
This month's movie-plot idea: arming the Boston police with
semi-automatic rifles:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/boston_police_g.html
I don't know how I missed this great series from Slate in February.
It's eight essays exploring why there have been no follow-on terrorist
attacks in the U.S. since 9/11 (not counting the anthrax mailings, I
guess). Read the whole thing.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/why_is_terroris.html
http://slate.com/id/2213025
In May's Crypto-Gram, I blogged about the Boston police seizing a
student's computer for, among other things, running Linux. Earlier this
month, the Massachusetts Supreme Court threw out the search warrant.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/update_on_compu.html
This combination door lock is very pretty. Of course, four digits is
too short an entry code, but I like the overall design and the automatic
rescrambling feature. It's just a prototype, and not even a physical
one at that.
http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/05/29/twist-shout-about-forgotting-the-code/
or http://tinyurl.com/lcv4tj
Earlier this year, I blogged about a self-defense pen that is likely to
easily pass through airport security. On the other hand, this normal
pen in the shape of a bullet will probably get you in trouble.
http://www.pencity.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/Fisher/375BulletBP.htm?L+scstor…
or http://tinyurl.com/qtv8nn
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/03/self-defense_pe.html
Time for some more fear about terrorists using maps and images. (I
thought I wrote a good blog post, but Crypto-Gram is already too long
this month. So read it online, please.)
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/fear_of_aerial.html
If you think that under-20-year-olds don't care about privacy, this is
an eloquent op-ed by two students about why CCTV cameras have no place
in their UK school.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2009/jun/03/cctv-cla…
or http://tinyurl.com/pjtz2f
Here's a site that sells corrupted MS Word files. The idea is that you
e-mail one of the files to your professor when your homework is due,
buying you a few hours -- or maybe days -- of extra time before your
professor notices that it's corrupted. On the one hand, this is clever.
But on the other hand, it's services like these that will force
professors to treat corrupted attachments as work not yet turned in, and
harm innocent homework submitters.
http://www.corrupted-files.com/Word.html
Here's how to make a corrupted pdf file for free:
http://blog.didierstevens.com/2009/06/09/quickpost-make-your-own-corrupted-…
Teaching children to spot terrorists: you can't make this stuff up.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/teaching_first-.html
Industry differences in types of security breaches.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/industry_differ.html
Malware steals ATM data
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/malware_steals.html
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Me on Full-Body Scanners in Airports
I'm very happy with this quote in a CNN.com story on "whole-body
imaging" at airports:
"Bruce Schneier, an internationally recognized security technologist,
said whole-body imaging technology 'works pretty well,' privacy rights
aside. But he thinks the financial investment was a mistake. In a
post-9/11 world, he said, he knows his position isn't 'politically
tenable,' but he believes money would be better spent on
intelligence-gathering and investigations.
"'It's stupid to spend money so terrorists can change plans,' he said by
phone from Poland, where he was speaking at a conference. If terrorists
are swayed from going through airports, they'll just target other
locations, such as a hotel in Mumbai, India, he said.
"'We'd be much better off going after bad guys ... and back to pre-9/11
levels of airport security,' he said. "There's a huge "cover your ass"
factor in politics, but unfortunately, it doesn't make us safer.'"
I've written about "cover your ass" security in the past, but it's nice
to see it in the press.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/05/18/airport.security.body.scans/?iref=…
or http://tinyurl.com/le9skw
Me on CYA security:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/cya_security_1.html
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Schneier News
Marcus Ranum and I did two video versions of our Face-Off column: one on
cloud computing:
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/video/0,297151,sid14_gci1355568,00.html
or http://tinyurl.com/plvkkr
And the other on who should be in charge of cyber-security:
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/video/0,297151,sid14_gci1355883,00.html
or http://tinyurl.com/p9eznn
Another interview with me on cloud computing:
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/video/2240924/bruce-schneier-cloud-security
or http://tinyurl.com/dlrv56
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The Doghouse: Net1
>From its website: "The FTS Patent has been acclaimed by leading
cryptographic authorities around the world as the most innovative and
secure protocol ever invented to manage offline and online smart card
related transactions. Please see the independent report by Bruce
Schneider [sic] in his book entitled Applied Cryptography, 2nd Edition
published in the late 1990s."
After I posted this on my blog, someone -- probably from the company --
said that it was referring to the UEPS protocol, discussed on page 589.
I still don't like the hyperbole and the implied endorsement in the quote.
http://www.aplitec.co.za/Products/Security.html
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Cloud Computing
This year's overhyped IT concept is cloud computing. Also called
software as a service (Saas), cloud computing is when you run software
over the internet and access it via a browser. The Salesforce.com
customer management software is an example of this. So is Google Docs.
If you believe the hype, cloud computing is the future.
But hype aside, cloud computing is nothing new. It's the modern version
of the timesharing model from the 1960s, which was eventually killed by
the rise of the personal computer. It's what Hotmail and Gmail have been
doing all these years, and it's social networking sites, remote backup
companies, and remote email filtering companies such as MessageLabs. Any
IT outsourcing -- network infrastructure, security monitoring, remote
hosting -- is a form of cloud computing.
The old timesharing model arose because computers were expensive and
hard to maintain. Modern computers and networks are drastically cheaper,
but they're still hard to maintain. As networks have become faster, it
is again easier to have someone else do the hard work. Computing has
become more of a utility; users are more concerned with results than
technical details, so the tech fades into the background.
But what about security? Isn't it more dangerous to have your email on
Hotmail's servers, your spreadsheets on Google's, your personal
conversations on Facebook's, and your company's sales prospects on
salesforce.com's? Well, yes and no.
IT security is about trust. You have to trust your CPU manufacturer,
your hardware, operating system and software vendors -- and your ISP.
Any one of these can undermine your security: crash your systems,
corrupt data, allow an attacker to get access to systems. We've spent
decades dealing with worms and rootkits that target software
vulnerabilities. We've worried about infected chips. But in the end, we
have no choice but to blindly trust the security of the IT providers we use.
Saas moves the trust boundary out one step further -- you now have to
also trust your software service vendors -- but it doesn't fundamentally
change anything. It's just another vendor we need to trust.
There is one critical difference. When a computer is within your
network, you can protect it with other security systems such as
firewalls and IDSs. You can build a resilient system that works even if
those vendors you have to trust may not be as trustworthy as you like.
With any outsourcing model, whether it be cloud computing or something
else, you can't. You have to trust your outsourcer completely. You not
only have to trust the outsourcer's security, but its reliability, its
availability, and its business continuity.
You don't want your critical data to be on some cloud computer that
abruptly disappears because its owner goes bankrupt. You don't want the
company you're using to be sold to your direct competitor. You don't
want the company to cut corners, without warning, because times are
tight. Or raise its prices and then refuse to let you have your data
back. These things can happen with software vendors, but the results
aren't as drastic.
There are two different types of cloud computing customers. The first
only pays a nominal fee for these services -- and uses them for free in
exchange for ads: e.g., Gmail and Facebook. These customers have no
leverage with their outsourcers. You can lose everything. Companies like
Google and Amazon won't spend a lot of time caring. The second type of
customer pays considerably for these services: to Salesforce.com,
MessageLabs, managed network companies, and so on. These customers have
more leverage, providing they write their service contracts correctly.
Still, nothing is guaranteed.
Trust is a concept as old as humanity, and the solutions are the same as
they have always been. Be careful who you trust, be careful what you
trust them with, and be careful how much you trust them. Outsourcing is
the future of computing. Eventually we'll get this right, but you don't
want to be a casualty along the way.
This essay originally appeared in The Guardian.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/04/bruce-schneier-cloud-compu…
or http://tinyurl.com/op7p7k
Another opinion:
http://1raindrop.typepad.com/1_raindrop/2009/06/begin-the-begin-cloud-secur…
or http://tinyurl.com/mnc3lb
A rebuttal:
http://www.rationalsurvivability.com/blog/?p=952
http://www.rationalsurvivability.com/blog/?p=1013
The reason I am talking so much about cloud computing is that reporters
and inverviewers keep asking me about it. I feel kind of dragged into
this whole thing.
At the Computers, Freedom, and Privacy conference earlier this month,
Bob Gellman said that the nine most important words in cloud computing
are: "terms of service," "location, location, location," and "provider,
provider, provider" -- basically making the same point I did. You need
to make sure the terms of service you sign up for are ones you can live
with. You need to make sure the location of the provider doesn't
subject you to any laws you can't live with. And you need to make sure
your provider is someone you're willing to work with. Basically, if
you're going to give someone else your data, you need to trust them.
http://www.worldprivacyforum.org/cloudprivacy.html
A copy of this essay, with all embedded links, is here:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/cloud_computing.html
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The Second Interdisciplinary Workshop on Security and
Human Behaviour
Last week, I was at SHB09, the Second Interdisciplinary Workshop on
Security and Human Behaviour, at MIT. This was a two-day gathering of
computer security researchers, psychologists, behavioral economists,
sociologists, philosophers, and others -- all of whom are studying the
human side of security -- organized by Ross Anderson, Alessandro
Acquisti, and myself. I liveblogged the workshop; here are the talk
summaries. (People were invited to submit a link for themselves, and
links to applicable things they wrote. Those links will be included
after each talk summary.)
The first session was about deception, moderated by David Clark.
Frank Stajano, Cambridge University, presented research with Paul
Wilson, who films actual scams for "The Real Hustle." His point is that
we build security systems based on our "logic," but users don't always
follow our logic. It's fraudsters who really understand what people do,
so we need to understand what the fraudsters understand. Things like
distraction, greed, unknown accomplices, social compliance are important.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/
Usability of Security Management: Defining the Permissions of Guests
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/papers/2006-JohnsonSta-guests.pdf
David Livingstone Smith, University of New England, is a philosopher by
training, and goes back to basics: "What are we talking about?" A
theoretical definition -- "that which something has to have to fall
under a term" -- of deception is difficult to define. "Cause to have a
false belief," from the Oxford English Dictionary, is inadequate. "To
deceive is intentionally have someone to have a false belief" also
doesn't work. "Intentionally causing someone to have a false belief that
the speaker knows to be false" still isn't good enough. The fundamental
problem is that these are anthropocentric definitions. Deception is not
unique to humans; it gives organisms an evolutionary edge. For example,
the mirror orchid fools a wasp into landing on it by looking like and
giving off chemicals that mimic the female wasp. This example shows that
we need a broader definition of "purpose." His formal definition: "For
systems A and B, A deceives B iff A possesses some character C with
proper function F, and B possesses a mechanism C* with the proper
function F* of producing representations, such that the proper function
of C is to cause C* to fail to perform F* by causing C* to form false
representations, and C does so in virtue of performing F, and B's
falsely representing enables some feature of A to perform its proper
function."
http://www.realhumannature.com
Less than human: self-deception in the imagining of others
http://realhumannature.com/?page_id=61
Talk on Lying at La Ciudad de Las Ideas
http://www.laciudaddeideas.com/ciudad2/play.php?vid=106
a subsequent discussion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnjpoOhwEzk
Why War?
http://realhumannature.com/?page_id=26
I spoke next, about the psychology of Conficker, how the human brain
buys security, and why science fiction writers shouldn't be hired to
think about terrorism risks (to be published on Wired.com this week).
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/04/conficker.html
http://www.schneier.com/essay-232.html
Dominic Johnson, University of Edinburgh, talked about his chapter in
the book Natural Security: A Darwinian Approach to a Dangerous World.
Life has 3.5 billion years of experience in security innovation; let's
look at how biology approaches security. Biomimicry, ecology,
paleontology, animal behavior, evolutionary psychology, immunology,
epidemiology, selection, and adaption are all relevant. Redundancy is a
very important survival tool for species. Here's an adaption example:
The 9/11 threat was real and we knew about it, but we didn't do
anything. His thesis: Adaptation to novel security threats tends to
occur after major disasters. There are many historical examples of this;
Pearl Harbor, for example. Causes include sensory biases, psychological
biases, leadership biases, organizational biases, and political biases
-- all pushing us towards maintaining the status quo. So it's natural
for us to poorly adapt to security threats in the modern world. A
questioner from the audience asked whether control theory had any
relevance to this model.
http://dominicdpjohnson.com/
Paradigm Shifts in Security Strategy
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/johnsond1.pdf
Perceptions of victory and defeat
http://dominicdpjohnson.com/publications/books.html
Jeff Hancock, Cornell University, studies interpersonal deception: how
the way we lie to each other intersects with communications
technologies; and how technologies change the way we lie, and can
technology be used to detect lying? Despite new technology, people lie
for traditional reasons. For example: on dating sites, men tend to lie
about their height and women tend to lie about their weight. The
recordability of the Internet also changes how we lie. The use of the
first person singular tends to go down the more people lie. He verified
this in many spheres, such as how people describe themselves in chat
rooms, and true versus false statements that the Bush administration
made about 9/11 and Iraq. The effect was more pronounced when
administration officials were answering questions than when they were
reading prepared remarks.
http://www.comm.cornell.edu/staff/employee/jeffrey_t_hancock.html
On Lying and Being Lied To: A Linguistic Analysis of Deception in
Computer-Mediated Communication
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/hancock1.pdf
Separating Fact From Fiction: An Examination of Deceptive
Self-Presentation in Online Dating Profiles
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/hancock2.pdf
The second session was about fraud. (These session subjects are only
general. We tried to stick related people together, but there was the
occasional oddball -- and scheduling constraint -- to deal with.)
Julie Downs, Carnegie Mellon University, is a psychologist who studies
how people make decisions, and talked about phishing. To determine how
people respond to phishing attempts -- what e-mails they open and when
they click on links -- she watched as people interacted with their
e-mail. She found that most people's strategies to deal with phishing
attacks might have been effective 5-10 years ago, but are no longer
sufficient now that phishers have adapted. She also found that educating
people about phishing didn't make them more effective at spotting
phishing attempts, but made them more likely to be afraid of doing
anything on line. She found this same overreaction among people who were
recently the victims of phishing attacks, but again people were no
better separating real e-mail from phishing attempts. What does make a
difference is contextual understanding: how to parse a URL, how and why
the scams happen, what SSL does and doesn't do.
http://sds.hss.cmu.edu/src/faculty/downs.php
Behavioral Response to Phishing Risk
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/downs1.pdf
Parents' vaccination comprehension and decisions
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/downs2.pdf
The Psychology of Food Consumption
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/downs3.pdf
Jean Camp, Indiana University, studies people taking risks online. Four
points: 1) "people create mental models from internal narratives about
risk," 2) "risk mitigating action is taken only if the risk is perceived
as relevant," 3) "contextualizing risk can show risks as relevant," and
4) "narrative can increase desire and capacity to use security tools."
Stories matter: "people are willing to wash out their cat food cans and
sweep up their sweet gum balls to be a good neighbor, but allow their
computers to join zombie networks" because there's a good story in the
former and none in the latter. She presented two experiments to
demonstrate this. One was a video experiment watching business majors
try to install PGP. No one was successful: there was no narrative, and
the mixed metaphor of physical and cryptographic "key" confused people.
http://www.ljean.com/
Experimental Evaluation of Expert and Non-expert Computer Users' Mental
Models of Security Risks
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb08/camp.pdf
Matt Blaze, University of Pennsylvania, talked about electronic voting
machines and fraud. He related the anecdote about actual electronic
voting machine vote fraud in Kentucky from the second link. In the
question session, he speculated about the difficulty of having a
security model that would have captured the problem, and how to know
whether that model was complete enough.
http://www.crypto.com/
Electronic vote rigging in Kentucky
http://www.crypto.com/blog/vote_fraud_in_kentucky/
Jeffrey Friedberg, Microsoft, discussed research at Microsoft around the
Trust User Experience (TUX). He talked about the difficulty of verifying
SSL certificates. Then he talked about how Microsoft added a "green bar"
to signify trusted sites, and how people who learned to trust the green
bar were fooled by "picture in picture attacks": where a hostile site
embedded a green-bar browser window in its page. Most people don't
understand that the information inside the browser window is arbitrary,
but that the stuff around it is not. The user interface, user
experience, mental models all matter. Designing and evaluating TUX is
hard. From the questions: training doesn't help much, because given a
plausible story, people will do things counter to their training.
http://www.mccullagh.org/image/10d-14/jeffrey-friedberg-microsoft.html
Internet Fraud Battlefield
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/friedberg.pdf
End to End Trust and the Trust User Experience
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/endtoendtrust/blogPosting.aspx?blogSour…
Testimony on "spyware"
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/friedberg/04-29spyware.mspx
Stuart Schechter, Microsoft, presented this research on secret
questions. Basically, secret questions don't work. They're easily
guessable based on the most common answers; friends and relatives of
people can easily predict unique answers; and people forget their
answers. Even worse, the more memorable the question/answers are, the
easier they are to guess. Having people write their own questions is no
better: "What's my blood type?" "How tall am I?"
http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~stuart/
It's no secret
http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/79594/oakland09.pdf
The Emperor's New Security Indicators
http://usablesecurity.org/emperor/emperor.pdf
Tyler Moore, Harvard University, discussed his empirical studies on
online crime and defense. Fraudsters are good at duping users, but
they're also effective at exploiting failures among IT professionals to
perpetuate the infrastructure necessary to carry out these exploits on a
large scale (hosting fake web pages, sending spam, laundering the
profits via money mules, and so on). There is widespread refusal among
the defenders to cooperate with each other, and attackers exploit these
limitations. We are better at removing phishing websites than we are at
defending against the money mules. Defenders tend to fix immediate
problems, but not underlying problems.
http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~tmoore/
The Consequences of Non-Cooperation in the Fight Against Phishing
http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~tmoore/ecrime08.pdf
Information Security Economics -- and Beyond
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/econ_czech.pdf
In the discussion phase, there was a lot of talk about the relationships
between websites, like banks, and users -- and how that affects security
for both good and bad. Jean Camp doesn't want a relationship with her
bank, because that unduly invests her in the bank. (Someone from the
audience pointed out that, as a U.S. taxpayer, she is already invested
in her bank.) Angela Sasse said that the correct metaphor is "rules of
engagement," rather than relationships.
Session three was titled "Usability."
Andrew Patrick, NRC Canada until he was laid off four days ago, talked
about biometric systems and human behavior. Biometrics are used
everywhere: for gym membership, at Disneyworld, at international
borders. The government of Canada is evaluating using iris recognition
at a distance for events like the 2010 Olympics. There are two different
usability issues: with respect to the end user, and with respect to the
authenticator. People's acceptance of biometrics is very much dependent
on the context. And of course, biometrics are not secret. Patrick
suggested that to defend ourselves against this proliferation of using
biometrics for authentication, the individual should publish them. The
rationale is that we're publishing them anyway, so we might as well do
it knowingly.
http://andrewpatrick.ca
Fingerprint Concerns: Performance, Usability, and Acceptance of
Fingerprint Biometric Systems
http://www.andrewpatrick.ca/essays/fingerprint-concerns-performance-usabili…
Luke Church, Cambridge University, talked about what he called
"user-centered design." There's a economy of usability: "in order to
make some things easier, we have to make some things harder" -- so it
makes sense to make the commonly done things easier at the expense of
the rarely done things. This has a lot of parallels with security. The
result is "appliancisation" (with a prize for anyone who come up with a
better name): the culmination of security behaviors and what the system
can do embedded in a series of user choices. Basically, giving users
meaningful control over their security. Luke discussed several benefits
and problems with the approach.
http://www.lukechurch.net
SHB Position Paper
http://www.lukechurch.net/Professional/Publications/SHB-2009-06-TheUserExpe…
Usability and the Common Criteria
http://www.lukechurch.net/Professional/Publications/WISA-2008-09-Introducin…
Diana Smetters, Palo Alto Research Center, started with these premises:
you can teach users, but you can't teach them very much, so you'd better
carefully design systems so that you 1) minimize what they have to
learn, 2) make it easier for them to learn it, and 3) maximize the
benefit from what they learn. Too often, security is at odds with
getting the job done. "As long as configuration errors (false alarms)
are common, any technology that requires users to observe security
indicators and react to them will fail as attacks can simply masquerade
as errors, and users will rationally ignore them." She recommends
meeting the user halfway by building new security models that actually
fit the users' needs. (For example: Phishing is a mismatch problem,
between what's in the user's head and where the URL is actually going.
SSL doesn't work, but how should websites authenticate themselves to
users? Her solution is protected links: a set of secure bookmarks in
protected browsers. She went on to describe a prototype and tests run
with user subjects.
http://www.parc.com/about/people/176/diana-smetters.html
Breaking out of the browser to defend against phishing attacks
http://www.parc.com/publication/2068/breaking-out-of-the-browser-to-defend-…
Building secure mashups
http://www.parc.com/publication/2054/building-secure-mashups.html
Ad-hoc guesting: when exceptions are the rule
http://www.usenix.org/event/upsec08/tech/full_papers/dalal/dalal.pdf
Jon Callas, PGP Corporation, used the metaphor of the "security cliff":
you have to keep climbing until you get to the top and that's hard, so
it's easier to just stay at the bottom. He wants more of a "security
ramp," so people can reasonably stop somewhere in the middle. His idea
is to have a few policies -- e-mail encryption, rules about USB drives
-- and enforce them. This works well in organizations, where IT has
dictatorial control over user configuration. If we can't teach users
much, we need to enforce policies on users.
http://www.pgp.com/company/management.html
Improving Message Security With a Self-Assembling PKI
http://middleware.internet2.edu/pki03/presentations/03.pdf
Rob Reeder, Microsoft, presented a possible solution to the secret
questions problem: social authentication. The idea is to use people you
know (trustees) to authenticate who you are, and have them attest to the
fact that you lost your password. He went on to describe how the
protocol works, as well as several potential attacks against the
protocol and defenses, and experiments that tested the protocol. In the
question session he talked about people designating themselves as
trustees, and how that isn't really a problem.
http://www.robreeder.com/
Expanding Grids for Visualizing and Authoring Computer Security Policies
http://www.robreeder.com/pubs/xGridsCHI2008.pdf
Lorrie Cranor, Carnegie Mellon University, talked about security
warnings. The best option is to fix the hazard; the second best is to
guard against it -- but far too often we just warn people about it. But
since hazards are generally not very hazardous, most people just ignore
them. "Often, software asks the user and provides little or no
information to help user make this decision." Better is to use some sort
of automated analysis to assist the user in responding to warnings. For
websites, for example, the system should block sites with a high
probability of danger, not bother users if there is a low probably of
danger, and help the user make the decision in the grey area. She went
on to describe a prototype and user studies done with the prototype; her
paper will be presented at USENIX Security in August.
http://lorrie.cranor.org/
A Framework for Reasoning About the Human in the Loop
http://www.cylab.cmu.edu/default.aspx?id=2396
Timing Is Everything? The Effects of Timing and Placement of Online
Privacy Indicators
http://www.guanotronic.com/~serge/papers/chi09a.pdf
School of Phish: A Real-Word Evaluation of Anti-Phishing Training
http://www.cylab.cmu.edu/research/techreports/tr_cylab09002.html
You've Been Warned: An Empirical Study of the Effectiveness of Web
Browser Phishing Warnings
http://www.guanotronic.com/~serge/papers/warned.pdf
Much of the discussion centered on how bad the problem really is, and
how much security is good enough. The group also talked about economic
incentives companies have to either fix or ignore security problems, and
whether market approaches (or, as Jean Camp called it, "the happy
Libertarian market pony") are sufficient. Some companies have incentives
to convince users to do the wrong thing, or at the very least to do
nothing. For example, social networking sites are more valuable if
people share their information widely.
Further discussion was about whitelisting, and whether it worked or not.
There's the problem of the bad guys getting on the whitelist, and the
risk that organizations like the RIAA will use the whitelist to enforce
copyright, or that large banks will use the whitelist as a tool to block
smaller start-up banks. Another problem is that the user might not
understand what a whitelist signifies.
Dave Clark from the audience: "It's not hard to put a seat belt on, and
if you need a lesson, take a plane." Kind of a one-note session. We
definitely need to invite more psych people next time.
David Livingstone Smith moderated the fourth session, about (more or
less) methodology.
Angela Sasse, University College London, has been working on usable
security for over a dozen years. As part of a project called "Trust
Economics," she looked at whether people comply with security policies
and why they either do or do not. She found that there is a limit to the
amount of effort people will make to comply -- this is less actual cost
and more perceived cost. Strict and simple policies will be complied
with more than permissive but complex policies. Compliance detection,
and reward or punishment, also affect compliance. People justify
noncompliance by "frequently made excuses."
http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/a.sasse/
The Compliance Budget: Managing Security Behaviour in Organisations
http://hornbeam.cs.ucl.ac.uk/hcs/publications/Beautement+Sasse+Wonham_The%2…
Human Vulnerabilities in Security Systems
http://www.ktn.qinetiq-tim.net/files/Public/whitepapers/HFWG%20White%20Pape…
Bashar Nuseibeh, Open University, talked about mobile phone security;
specifically, Facebook privacy on mobile phones. He did something clever
in his experiments. Because he wasn't able to interview people at the
moment they did something -- he worked with mobile users -- he asked
them to provide a "memory phrase" that allowed him to effectively
conduct detailed interviews at a later time. This worked very well, and
resulted in all sorts of information about why people made privacy
decisions at that earlier time.
A Multi-Pronged Empirical Approach to Mobile Privacy Investigation
http://mcs.open.ac.uk/ban25/
Security Requirements Engineering: A Framework for Representation and
Analysis
http://mcs.open.ac.uk/ban25/papers/Haley-TSE-04359475-for_web.pdf
James Pita, University of Southern California, studies security
personnel who have to guard a physical location. In his analysis, there
are limited resources -- guards, cameras, etc. -- and a set of locations
that need to be guarded. An example would be the Los Angeles airport,
where a finite number of K-9 units need to guard eight terminals. His
model uses a Stackelberg game to minimize predictability (otherwise, the
adversary will learn it and exploit it) while maximizing security. There
are complications -- observational uncertainty and bounded rationally on
the part of the attackers -- which he tried to capture in his model.
http://teamcore.usc.edu/pita/
http://mcs.open.ac.uk/ban25/papers/chi2008-Mancini-et-al.pdf
Deployed ARMOR Protection: The Application of a Game Theoretic Model for
Security at the Los Angeles International Airport
http://teamcore.usc.edu/pita/publications/2008/AAMASind2008Final.pdf
Markus Jakobsson, Palo Alto Research Center, pointed out that auto
insurers ask people if they smoke in order to get a feeling for whether
they engage in high-risk behaviors. In his experiment, he selected 100
people who were the victim of online fraud and 100 people who were not.
He then asked them to complete a survey about different physical risks
such as mountain climbing and parachute jumping, financial risks such as
buying stocks and real estate, and Internet risks such as visiting porn
sites and using public wi-fi networks. He found significant correlation
between different risks, but I didn't see an overall pattern emerge. And
in the discussion phase, several people had questions about the data.
More analysis, and probably more data, is required. To be fair, he was
still in the middle of his analysis.
http://www.informatics.indiana.edu/markus/
Male, late with your credit card payment, and like to speed? You will be
phished!
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/jakobsson-shb09.pdf
Social Phishing
http://www.indiana.edu/~phishing/social-network-experiment/phishing-preprin…
Love and Authentication
http://www.ravenwhite.com/files/chi08JSWY.pdf
Quantifying the Security of Preference-Based Authentication
http://www.ravenwhite.com/files/quantifying.pdf
Rachel Greenstadt, Drexel University, discussed ways in which humans and
machines can collaborate in making security decisions. These decisions
are hard for several reasons: because they are context dependent,
require specialized knowledge, are dynamic, and require complex risk
analysis. And humans and machines are good at different sorts of tasks.
Machine-style authentication: This guy I'm standing next to knows Jake's
private key, so he must be Jake. Human-style authentication: This guy
I'm standing next to looks like Jake and sounds like Jake, so he must be
Jake. The trick is to design systems that get the best of these two
authentication styles and not the worst. She described two experiments
examining two decisions: should I log into this website (the phishing
problem), and should I publish this anonymous essay or will my
linguistic style betray me?
http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~greenie
Practical Attacks Against Authorship Recognition Techniques (pre-print)
http://www.cs.drexel.edu/~greenie/brennan_paper.pdf
Reinterpreting the Disclosure Debate for Web Infections
http://weis2008.econinfosec.org/papers/Greenstadt.pdf
Mike Roe, Microsoft, talked about crime in online games, particularly in
Second Life and Metaplace. There are four classes of people on online
games: explorers, socializers, achievers, and griefers. Griefers try to
annoy socializers in social worlds like Second Life, or annoy achievers
in competitive worlds like World of Warcraft. Crime is not necessarily
economic; criminals trying to steal money is much less of a problem in
these games than people just trying to be annoying. In the question
session, Dave Clark said that griefers are a constant, but economic
fraud grows over time. I responded that the two types of attackers are
different people, with different personality profiles. I also pointed
out that there is another kind of attacker: achievers who use illegal
mechanisms to assist themselves.
http://research.microsoft.com/users/mroe/
In the discussion, Peter Neumann pointed out that safety is an emergent
property, and requires security, reliability, and survivability. Others
weren't so sure.
The first session of the second day was "Foundations," which is kind of
a catch-all for a variety of things that didn't really fit anywhere
else. Rachel Greenstadt moderated.
Terence Taylor, International Council for the Live Sciences, talked
about the lessons evolution teaches about living with risk. Successful
species didn't survive by eliminating the risks of their environment,
they survived by adaptation. Adaptation isn't always what you think. For
example, you could view the collapse of the Soviet Union as a failure to
adapt, but you could also view it as successful adaptation. Risk is
good. Risk is essential for the survival of a society, because
risk-takers are the drivers of change. In the discussion phase, John
Mueller pointed out a key difference between human and biological
systems: humans tend to respond dramatically to anomalous events (the
anthrax attacks), while biological systems respond to sustained change.
And David Livingstone Smith asked about the difference between
biological adaptation that affects the reproductive success of an
organism's genes, even at the expense of the organism, with security
adaptation. (I recommend the book he edited: Natural Security: A
Darwinian Approach to a Dangerous World.)
http://www.iclscharter.org/people.html
Darwinian Security
http://www.darwiniansecurity.org
Natural Security
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=job2avPAbgU
Andrew Odlyzko, University of Minnesota, discussed human-space vs.
cyberspace. People cannot build secure systems -- we know that -- but
people also cannot live with secure systems. We require a certain amount
of flexibility in our systems. And finally, people don't need secure
systems. We survive with an astounding amount of insecurity in our
world. The problem with cyberspace is that it was originally conceived
as separate from the physical world, and that it could correct for the
inadequacies of the physical world. Really, the two are intertwined, and
that human space more often corrects for the inadequacies of cyberspace.
Lessons: build messy systems, not clean ones; create a web of ties to
other systems; create permanent records.
http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzko/
Network Neutrality, Search Neutrality, and the Never-Ending Conflict
Between Efficiency and Fairness in Markets
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/odlyzko.pdf
Economics, psychology, and sociology of security
http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzko/doc/econ.psych.security.pdf
danah boyd, Microsoft Research, does ethnographic studies of teens in
cyberspace. Teens tend not to lie to their friends in cyberspace, but
they lie to the system. Since an early age, they've been taught that
they need to lie online to be safe. Teens regularly share their
passwords: with their parents when forced, or with their best friend or
significant other. This is a way of demonstrating trust. It's part of
the social protocol for this generation. In general, teens don't use
social media in the same way as adults do. And when they grow up, they
won't use social media in the same way as today's adults do. Teens view
privacy in terms of control, and take their cues about privacy from
celebrities and how they use social media. And their sense of privacy is
much more nuanced and complicated. In the discussion phase, danah wasn't
sure whether the younger generation would be more or less susceptible to
Internet scams than the rest of us -- they're not nearly as technically
savvy as we might think they are. "The only thing that saves teenagers
is fear of their parents"; they try to lock them out, and lock others
out in the process. Socio-economic status matters a lot, in ways that
she is still trying to figure out. There are three different types of
social networks: personal networks, articulated networks, and behavioral
networks, and they're different.
http://www.danah.org
Taken Out of Context -- American Teen Sociality in Networked Publics
http://www.danah.org/papers/TakenOutOfContext.pdf
Mark Levine, Lancaster University. He collected data from UK CCTV
cameras, searches for aggressive behavior, and studies when and how
bystanders either help escalate or de-escalate the situations. Results:
as groups get bigger, there is no increase of anti-social acts and a
significant increase in pro-social acts. He has much more analysis and
results, too complicated to summarize here. One key finding: when a
third party intervenes in an aggressive interaction, it is much more
likely to de-escalate. Basically, groups can act against violence. "When
it comes to violence (and security), group processes are part of the
solution -- not part of the problem?"
http://www.psych.lancs.ac.uk/people/MarkLevine.html
The Kindness of Crowds
http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13176759
Intra-group Regulation of Violence: Bystanders and the (De)-escalation
of Violence
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/levine1.pdf
Jeff MacKie-Mason, University of Michigan, is an economist: "Security
problems are incentive problems." He discussed motivation, and how to
design systems to take motivation into account. Humans are smart
devices; they can't be programmed, but they can be influenced through
the sciences of motivational behavior: microeconomics, game theory,
social psychology, psychodynamics, and personality psychology. He gave a
couple of general examples of how these theories can inform security
system design.
http://jeff-mason.com
Humans are smart devices, but not programmable
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/mackie-mason.pdf
Security when people matter
http://hdl.handle.net/2027.42/55773
A Social Mechanism for Supporting Home Computer Security
http://hdl.handle.net/2027.42/63006
Joe Bonneau, Cambridge University, talked about social networks like
Facebook, and privacy. People misunderstand why privacy and security is
important in social networking sites like Facebook. People underestimate
of what Facebook really is; it really is a reimplementation of the
entire Internet. "Everything on the Internet is becoming social," and
that makes security different. Phishing is different, 419-style scams
are different. Social context makes some scams easier; social networks
are fun, noisy, and unpredictable. "People use social networking systems
with their brain turned off." But social context can be used to spot
frauds and anomalies, and can be used to establish trust.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~jcb82/
Session Six -- "Terror" -- chaired by Stuart Schechter.
Bill Burns, Decision Research, studies social reaction to risk. He
discussed his theoretical model of how people react to fear events, and
data from the 9/11 attacks, the 7/7 bombings in the UK, and the 2008
financial collapse. Basically, we can't remain fearful. No matter what
happens, fear spikes immediately after and recovers 45 or so days
afterwards. He believes that the greatest mistake we made after 9/11 was
labeling the event as terrorism instead of an international crime.
http://www.decisionresearch.org/people/burns/
The Diffusion of Fear: Modeling Community Response to a Terrorist Strike
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb08/burns.pdf
Chris Cocking, London Metropolitan University, looks at the group
behavior of people responding to emergencies. Traditionally, most
emergency planning is based on the panic model: people in crowds are
prone to irrational behavior and panic. There's also a social attachment
model that predicts that social norms don't break down in groups. He
prefers a self-categorization approach: disasters create a common
identity, which results in orderly and altruistic behavior among
strangers. The greater the threat, the greater the common identity, and
spontaneous resilience can occur. He displayed a photograph of "panic"
in New York on 9/11 and showed how it wasn't panic at all. Panic seems
to be more a myth than a reality. This has policy implications during an
event: provide people with information, and people are more likely to
underreact than overreact, if there is overreaction, it's because people
are acting as individuals rather than groups, so those in authority
should encourage a sense of collective identity. "Crowds can be part of
the solution rather than part of the problem."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4702659.stm
Effects of social identity on responses to emergency mass evacuation
http://www.sussex.ac.uk/affiliates/panic/
Richard John, University of Southern California, talked about the
process of social amplification of risk (with respect to terrorism).
Events result in relatively small losses; it's the changes in behavior
following an event that result in much greater losses. There's a dynamic
of risk perception, and it's very contextual. He uses vignettes to study
how risk perception changes over time, and discussed some of the studies
he's conducting and ideas for future studies.
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/psyc/people/faculty1003386.html
Decision Analysis by Proxy for the Rational Terrorist
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/john1.pdf
Mark Stewart, University of Newcastle, Australia, examines
infrastructure security and whether the costs exceed the benefits. He
talked about cost/benefit trade-off, and how to apply probabilistic
terrorism risk assessment; then, he tried to apply this model to the
U.S. Federal Air Marshal Service. His result: they're not worth it. You
can quibble with his data, but the real value is a transparent process.
During the discussion, I said that it is important to realize that risks
can't be taken in isolation, that anyone making a security trade-off is
balancing several risks: terrorism risks, political risks, the personal
risks to his career, etc.
http://www.newcastle.edu.au/research-centre/cipar/
A risk and cost-benefit assessment of United States aviation security
measures
http://polisci.osu.edu/faculty/jmueller/STEWJTS.PDF
Risk and Cost-Benefit Assessment of Counter-Terrorism Protective
Measures to Infrastructure
http://nova.newcastle.edu.au/vital/access/manager/Repository/uon:3125
John Adams, University College London, applies his risk thermostat model
to terrorism. He presented a series of amusing photographs of
overreactions to risk, most of them not really about risk aversion but
more about liability aversion. He talked about bureaucratic paranoia, as
well as bureaucratic incitements to paranoia, and how this is beginning
to backfire. People treat risks differently, depending on whether they
are voluntary, impersonal, or imposed, and whether people have total
control, diminished control, or no control.
http://john-adams.co.uk/about/
Deus e Brasileiro?
http://john-adams.co.uk/2008/12/31/deus-e-brasileiro/
Can Science Beat Terrorism?
http://john-adams.co.uk/2009/03/06/the-world-under-assault-can-science-beat…
Bicycle bombs: a further inquiry
http://john-adams.co.uk/2009/01/16/bicycle-bombs-a-further-enquiry-and-a-ne…
Dan Gardner, Ottawa Citizen, talked about how the media covers risks,
threats, attacks, etc. He talked about the various ways the media screws
up, all of which were familiar to everyone. His thesis is not that the
media gets things wrong in order to increase readership/viewership and
therefore profits, but that the media gets things wrong because
reporters are human. Bad news bias is not a result of the media hyping
bad news, but the natural human tendency to remember the bad more than
the good. The evening news is centered around stories because people --
including reporters -- respond to stories, and stories with novelty,
emotion, and drama are better stories.
http://www.amazon.com/Science-Fear-Shouldnt-Ourselves-Greater/dp/0525950621
Some of the discussion was about the nature of panic: whether and where
it exists, and what it looks like. Someone from the audience questioned
whether panic was related to proximity to the event; someone else
pointed out that people very close to the 7/7 bombings took pictures and
made phone calls -- and that there was no evidence of panic. Also, on
9/11 pretty much everyone below where the airplanes struck the World
Trade Center got out safely; and everyone above couldn't get out, and
died. Angela Sasse pointed out that the previous terrorist attack
against the World Trade Center, and the changes made in evacuation
procedures afterwards, contributed to the lack of panic on 9/11. Bill
Burns said that the purest form of panic is a drowning person. Jean Camp
asked whether the recent attacks against women's health providers should
be classified as terrorism, or whether we are better off framing it as
crime. There was also talk about sky marshals and their effectiveness. I
said that it isn't sky marshals that are a deterrent, but the idea of
sky marshals. Terence Taylor said that increasing uncertainty on the
part of the terrorists is, in itself, a security measure. There was also
a discussion about how risk-averse terrorists are; they seem to want to
believe they have an 80% or 90% change of success before they will
launch an attack.
The penultimate session of the conference was "Privacy," moderated by
Tyler Moore.
Alessandro Acquisti, Carnegie Mellon University, presented research on
how people value their privacy. He started by listing a variety of
cognitive biases that affect privacy decisions: illusion of control,
overconfidence, optimism bias, endowment effect, and so on. He discussed
two experiments. The first demonstrated a "herding effect": if a subject
believes that others reveal sensitive behavior, the subject is more
likely to also reveal sensitive behavior. The second examined the "frog
effect": do privacy intrusions alert or desensitize people to revealing
personal information? What he found is that people tend to set their
privacy level at the beginning of a survey, and don't respond well to
being asked easy questions at first and then sensitive questions at the
end. In the discussion, Joe Bonneau asked him about the notion that
people's privacy protections tend to ratchet up over time; he didn't
have conclusive evidence, but gave several possible explanations for the
phenomenon.
http://www.heinz.cmu.edu/~acquisti/
What Can Behavioral Economics Teach Us About Privacy?
http://www.heinz.cmu.edu/~acquisti/papers/Acquisti-Grossklags-Chapter-Etric…
Privacy in Electronic Commerce and the Economics of Immediate Gratification
http://www.heinz.cmu.edu/~acquisti/papers/privacy-gratification.pdf
Adam Joinson, University of Bath, also studies how people value their
privacy. He talked about expressive privacy -- privacy that allows
people to express themselves and form interpersonal relationships. His
research showed that differences between how people use Facebook in
different countries depend on how much people trust Facebook as a
company, rather than how much people trust other Facebook users. Another
study looked at posts from Secret Tweet and Twitter. He found 16 markers
that allowed him to automatically determine which tweets contain
sensitive personal information and which do not, with high probability.
Then he tried to determine if people with large Twitter followings post
fewer secrets than people who are only twittering to a few people. He
found absolutely no difference.
http://www.joinson.com/
Privacy, Trust and Self-Disclosure Online
http://people.bath.ac.uk/aj266/pubs_pdf/joinson_et_al_HCI_final.pdf
Privacy concerns and privacy actions
http://people.bath.ac.uk/aj266/pubs_pdf/ijhcs.pdf
Peter Neumann, SRI, talked about lack of medical privacy (too many
people have access to your data), about voting (the privacy problem
makes the voting problem a lot harder, and the end-to-end voting
security/privacy problem is much harder than just securing voting
machines), and privacy in China (the government is requiring all
computers sold in China to be sold with software allowing them to
eavesdrop on the users). Any would-be solution needs to reflect the
ubiquity of the threat. When we design systems, we need to anticipate
what the privacy problems will be. Privacy problems are everywhere you
look, and ordinary people have no idea of the depth of the problem.
http://www.csl.sri.com/users/neumann/
Holistic systems
http://www.csl.sri.com/neumann/holistic.pdf
Risks
http://www.csl.sri.com/users/neumann/#3
Identity and Trust in Context
http://www.csl.sri.com/neumann/idtrust09+x4.pdf
Eric Johnson, Dartmouth College, studies the information access problem
from a business perspective. He's been doing field studies in companies
like retail banks and investment banks, and found that role-based access
control fails because companies can't determine who has what role. Even
worse, roles change quickly, especially in large complex organizations.
For example, one business group of 3000 people experiences 1000 role
changes within three months. The result is that organizations do access
control badly, either over-entitling or under-entitling people. But
since getting the job done is the most important thing, organizations
tend to over-entitle: give people more access than they need. His
current work is to find the right set of incentives and controls to set
access more properly. The challege is to do this without making people
risk averse. In the discussion, he agreed that a perfect access control
system is not possible, and that organizations should probably allow a
certain amount of access control violations -- similar to the idea of
posting a 55 mph speed limit but not ticketing people unless they go
over 70 mph.
http://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/pages/faculty/eric.johnson/
Access Flexibility with Escalation and Audit
http://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/digital/Research/ResearchProjects/wise_v1.pdf
Security through Information Risk Management
http://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/digital/Research/ResearchProjects/JohnsonRisk…
Christine Jolls, Yale Law School, made the point that people regularly
share their most private information with their intimates -- so privacy
is not about secrecy, it's more about control. There are moments when
people make pretty big privacy decisions. For example, they grant
employers the rights to monitor their e-mail, or test their urine
without notice. In general, courts hold that blanket signing away of
privacy rights -- "you can test my urine on any day in the future" --
are not valid, but immediate signing away of privacy of privacy rights
-- "you can test my urine today" -- are. Jolls believes that this is
reasonable for several reasons, such as optimism bias and an overfocus
on the present at the expense of the future. Without realizing it, the
courts have implemented the system that behavioral economics would find
optimal. During the discussion, she talked about how coercion figures
into this; the U.S. legal system tends not to be concerned with it.
http://www.law.yale.edu/faculty/CJolls.htm
Rationality and Consent in Privacy Law
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/jolls1.pdf
Employee Privacy
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/jolls2.pdf
Andrew Adams, University of Reading, also looks at attitudes of privacy
on social networking services. His results are preliminary, and based on
interviews with university students in Canada, Japan, and the UK, and
are very concordant with what danah boyd and Joe Bonneau said earlier.
>From the UK: People join social networking sites to increase their
level of interaction with people they already know in real life.
Revealing personal information is okay, but revealing too much is bad.
Even more interestingly, it's not okay to reveal more about others than
they reveal themselves. From Japan: People are more open to making
friends online. There's more anonymity. It's not okay to reveal
information about others, but "the fault of this lies as much with the
person whose data was revealed in not choosing friends wisely." This
victim responsibility is a common theme with other privacy and security
elements in Japan. Data from Canada is still being compiled.
http://www.personal.rdg.ac.uk/~sis00aaa/
Regulating CCTV
http://deposit.depot.edina.ac.uk/119/
Great phrase: the "laundry belt" -- close enough for students to go home
on weekends with their laundry, but far enough away so they don't feel
as if their parents are looking over their shoulder -- typically two
hours by public transportation (in the UK).
The eighth, and final, session of the SHB09 was optimistically titled
"How Do We Fix the World?" I moderated, which meant that my liveblogging
was more spotty, especially in the discussion section.
David Mandel, Defense Research and Development Canada, is part of the
Thinking, Risk, and Intelligence Group at DRDC Toronto. His first
observation: "Be wary of purported world-fixers." His second
observation: when you claim that something is broken, it is important to
specify the respects in which it's broken and what fixed looks like. His
third observation: it is also important to analyze the consequences of
any potential fix. An analysis of the way things are is perceptually
based, but an analysis of the way things should be is value-based. He
also presented data showing that predictions made by intelligence
analysts (at least in one Canadian organization) were pretty good.
http://mandel.socialpsychology.org/
Applied Behavioral Science in Support of Intelligence Analysis
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb09/mandel.pdf
Radicalization: What does it mean?
http://individual.utoronto.ca/mandel/Mandel-radicalization.pdf
The Role of Instigators in Radicalization to Violent Extremism
http://individual.utoronto.ca/mandel/NATO_HFM140_Instigators_Mandel.pdf
Ross Anderson, Cambridge University, asked "Where's the equilibrium?"
Both privacy and security are moving targets, but he expects that
someday soon there will be a societal equilibrium. Incentives to price
discriminate go up, and the cost to do so goes down. He gave several
examples of database systems that reached very different equilibrium
points, depending on corporate lobbying, political realities, public
outrage, etc. He believes that privacy will be regulated, the only
question being when and how. "Where will the privacy boundary end up,
and why? How can we nudge it one way or another?"
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/
Database State
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/database-state.pdf
book chapters on psychology and terror
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SEv2-c02.pdf
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SEv2-c24.pdf
Alma Whitten, Google, presented a set of ideals about privacy (very
European like) and some of the engineering challenges they present.
"Engineering challenge #1: How to support access and control to personal
data that isn't authenticated? Engineering challenge #2: How to inform
users about both authenticated and unauthenticated data? Engineering
challenge #3: How to balance giving users control over data collection
versus detecting and stopping abuse? Engineering challenge #4: How to
give users fine-grained control over their data without overwhelming
them with options? Engineering challenge #5: How to link sequential
actions while preventing them from being linkable to a person?
Engineering challenge #6: How to make the benefits of aggregate data
analysis apparent to users? Engineering challenge #7: How to avoid or
detect inadvertent recording of data that can be linked to an
individual?" (Note that Alma requested not to be recorded.)
http://gaudior.net/alma/
Why Johnny can't encrypt: A usability evaluation of PGP 5.0
http://gaudior.net/alma/johnny.pdf
John Mueller, Ohio State University, talked about terrorism and the
Department of Homeland Security. Terrorism isn't a threat; it's a
problem and a concern, certainly, but the word "threat" is still
extreme. Al Qaeda isn't a threat, and they're the most serious potential
attacker against the U.S. and Western Europe. And terrorists are
overwhelmingly stupid. Meanwhile, the terrorism issue "has become a
self-licking ice cream cone." In other words, it's now an
ever-perpetuating government bureaucracy. There are virtually an
infinite number of targets; the odds of any one target being targeted is
effectively zero; terrorists pick targets largely at random; if you
protect target, it makes other targets less safe; most targets are
vulnerable in the physical sense, but invulnerable in the sense that
they can be rebuilt relatively cheaply (even something like the
Pentagon); some targets simply can't be protected; if you're going to
protect some targets, you need to determine if they should really be
protected. (I recommend his book, Overblown.)
http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jmueller/
Reacting to Terrorism: Probabilities, Consequences, and the Persistence
of Fear
http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jmueller/ISA2007T.PDF
Evaluating Measures to Protect the Homeland from Terrorism
http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jmueller/ISA9.PDF
Terrorphobia: Our False Sense of Insecurity
http://www.the-american-interest.com/ai2/article.cfm?Id=418&MId=19
Adam Shostack, Microsoft, pointed out that even the problem of figuring
out what part of the problem to work on first is difficult. One of the
issues is shame. We don't want to talk about what's wrong, so we can't
use that information to determine where we want to go. We make excuses
-- customers will flee, people will sue, stock prices will go down --
even though we know that those excuses have been demonstrated to be false.
http://www.homeport.org/~adam/
http://newschoolsecurity.com/
During the discussion, there was a lot of talk about the choice between
informing users and bombarding them with information they can't
understand. And lots more that I couldn't transcribe.
And that's it. SHB09 was a fantastic workshop, filled with interesting
people and interesting discussion. Next year in the other Cambridge.
Ross Anderson and Adam Shostack wrote talk summaries, too. And Matt
Blaze recorded audio:
http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2009/06/11/security-and-human-behaviour-…
http://newschoolsecurity.com/2009/06/shb-session-1-deception/
http://www.crypto.com/blog/shb09/
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What do you folks think about Bitcoin? It looks interesting, in that
it's a digital currency with no trusted third parties, and all the
"rules" (such as: you can't just print your own money) enforced by the
fact that only transactions which the majority of computers in the
system accept get considered "accepted" globally.
There's a process to create new money, which is basically allocated to
people via a lottery (and you increase your chances of winning by
contributing more CPU power to the algorithms that prevent people
cheating, so there's a nice feedback loop), such that the amount of
money in the system will, in the long run, tend towards a fixed amount,
that will just increases in value by deflating as the economy grows.
I've written some thoughts on the implications:
http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2011/05/12/bitcoin-security/
http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2011/05/16/lords-of-a-new-economy/
http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2011/05/13/aurum/
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What do you folks think about Bitcoin? It looks interesting, in that
it's a digital currency with no trusted third parties, and all the
"rules" (such as: you can't just print your own money) enforced by the
fact that only transactions which the majority of computers in the
system accept get considered "accepted" globally.
There's a process to create new money, which is basically allocated to
people via a lottery (and you increase your chances of winning by
contributing more CPU power to the algorithms that prevent people
cheating, so there's a nice feedback loop), such that the amount of
money in the system will, in the long run, tend towards a fixed amount,
that will just increases in value by deflating as the economy grows.
I've written some thoughts on the implications:
http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2011/05/12/bitcoin-security/
http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2011/05/16/lords-of-a-new-economy/
http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2011/05/13/aurum/
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