July 2018 - cypherpunks-legacy

[drone-list] Al Qaeda Document on Avoiding Drone Strikes
by xgermx 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/03/al_qaeda_docume.html -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at companys(a)stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/drone-list ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE

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Re: FC: President Bush says military tribunals will try civilian cases
by PRGormley＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's simple, maybe unethical and way off the moral high ground we claim to be staking out but effective and legal under the US Constitution. Make sure you check for any text that says these protections apply to non-citizens. While I am unqualified to comment on the national security aspect of these issues, there certainly are security issues presented by them. I quote the US Constitution, 14th Amendment: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this reading, the rights accorded under our federal constitution are not extended beyond US Citizens without regard to location of those citizens. I read this to require treatment by the US of US citizens abroad the same as in the US. - Paul Gormley criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts ---

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Re: FC: President Bush says military tribunals will try civilian cases
by PRGormley＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's simple, maybe unethical and way off the moral high ground we claim to be staking out but effective and legal under the US Constitution. Make sure you check for any text that says these protections apply to non-citizens. While I am unqualified to comment on the national security aspect of these issues, there certainly are security issues presented by them. I quote the US Constitution, 14th Amendment: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this reading, the rights accorded under our federal constitution are not extended beyond US Citizens without regard to location of those citizens. I read this to require treatment by the US of US citizens abroad the same as in the US. - Paul Gormley criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts ---

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Re: FC: President Bush says military tribunals will try civilian cases
by PRGormley＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's simple, maybe unethical and way off the moral high ground we claim to be staking out but effective and legal under the US Constitution. Make sure you check for any text that says these protections apply to non-citizens. While I am unqualified to comment on the national security aspect of these issues, there certainly are security issues presented by them. I quote the US Constitution, 14th Amendment: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this reading, the rights accorded under our federal constitution are not extended beyond US Citizens without regard to location of those citizens. I read this to require treatment by the US of US citizens abroad the same as in the US. - Paul Gormley criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts ---

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Re: FC: President Bush says military tribunals will try civilian cases
by PRGormley＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's simple, maybe unethical and way off the moral high ground we claim to be staking out but effective and legal under the US Constitution. Make sure you check for any text that says these protections apply to non-citizens. While I am unqualified to comment on the national security aspect of these issues, there certainly are security issues presented by them. I quote the US Constitution, 14th Amendment: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this reading, the rights accorded under our federal constitution are not extended beyond US Citizens without regard to location of those citizens. I read this to require treatment by the US of US citizens abroad the same as in the US. - Paul Gormley criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts ---

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Re: FC: President Bush says military tribunals will try civilian cases
by PRGormley＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's simple, maybe unethical and way off the moral high ground we claim to be staking out but effective and legal under the US Constitution. Make sure you check for any text that says these protections apply to non-citizens. While I am unqualified to comment on the national security aspect of these issues, there certainly are security issues presented by them. I quote the US Constitution, 14th Amendment: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this reading, the rights accorded under our federal constitution are not extended beyond US Citizens without regard to location of those citizens. I read this to require treatment by the US of US citizens abroad the same as in the US. - Paul Gormley criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts ---

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Re: FC: President Bush says military tribunals will try civilian cases
by PRGormley＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's simple, maybe unethical and way off the moral high ground we claim to be staking out but effective and legal under the US Constitution. Make sure you check for any text that says these protections apply to non-citizens. While I am unqualified to comment on the national security aspect of these issues, there certainly are security issues presented by them. I quote the US Constitution, 14th Amendment: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this reading, the rights accorded under our federal constitution are not extended beyond US Citizens without regard to location of those citizens. I read this to require treatment by the US of US citizens abroad the same as in the US. - Paul Gormley criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts ---

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Re: FC: President Bush says military tribunals will try civilian cases
by PRGormley＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's simple, maybe unethical and way off the moral high ground we claim to be staking out but effective and legal under the US Constitution. Make sure you check for any text that says these protections apply to non-citizens. While I am unqualified to comment on the national security aspect of these issues, there certainly are security issues presented by them. I quote the US Constitution, 14th Amendment: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this reading, the rights accorded under our federal constitution are not extended beyond US Citizens without regard to location of those citizens. I read this to require treatment by the US of US citizens abroad the same as in the US. - Paul Gormley criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts ---

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Re: FC: President Bush says military tribunals will try civilian cases
by PRGormley＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's simple, maybe unethical and way off the moral high ground we claim to be staking out but effective and legal under the US Constitution. Make sure you check for any text that says these protections apply to non-citizens. While I am unqualified to comment on the national security aspect of these issues, there certainly are security issues presented by them. I quote the US Constitution, 14th Amendment: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this reading, the rights accorded under our federal constitution are not extended beyond US Citizens without regard to location of those citizens. I read this to require treatment by the US of US citizens abroad the same as in the US. - Paul Gormley criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts ---

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seeking information for Wired News article
by Danit Lidor 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Hi there, I am a reporter at Wired News. We received notice of the upcoming Cypherpunks10th anniversary bash. I am thinking of writing a short article about the history and current status of the cypherpunk community. Obviously, things have changed a lot in the last 10 years. I imagine that you and other cypherpunks would have much to say on the topic. Please feel free to rant and rave to me about whatever you feel would be relevant to this kind of article. When did the Cypherpunks come into existence? Who were the founding members? What was the inital purpose? What kinds of people are involved? Who (socially, i mean, not names!) exactly are the members of the group? How many at any one time? Is it a rotating membership, with people coming and going? There has been a substantial amount of press dedicated to the Cypherpunks, what's been the community response? Have their been internal discussions about the repercussions of the media's involvment and the like? WN has had a very familiar relationship with the cypherpunks - has it been viewed as a positive thing? Have the ideals of the group changed over the years? Are there any manifestos or official statements from the group that I can access? What are the future plans for the cypherpunks? I attempted to access cypherpunks.com but most of the links are dead, why isn't anyone maintaining it? Or is it unrelated to the current community? With whom else are the cypherpunks allied? What do you, personally, have to say about the future of the Internet, privacy, legislation, hacking, phreaking, cyber terrorism, the governement. etc? and finally, who else should I be talking to? Thanks for your time. I am hoping to get the story done before the end of next week (i.e. before the actual party.) Of course, I would never publish the location of the party or any other information that you don't feel comfortable about. Danit Lidor I am also available at 415.276.3925. please leave me a message if I'm away from my desk. I am more than happy to call you back. --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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