March 2004 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards
by Major Variola (ret) 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

At 08:39 PM 3/26/04 -0600, Black Unicorn wrote: > >Keeping calling cards from leaking information probably isn't possible. > >Limiting the information leaked to that which is already known or is useless >is probably the best bet. Using separate cards for separate operations / >cells and immediate disposal seems pretty critical. > Moral of the story: when using your 802.11b card for those special messages beamed into someone else's LAN, (just before you incinerate it after its sole use), make sure you bought it in another city, with cash of course. It is rather surprising that paranoid americans (albeit a few years ago) would be so clueless when UBL & Palestinian targets^H^H^Hleaders are getting a grip. ------ Herod:Jeebus::Bush:Osama

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[Users] ANNOUNCE: strongSwan mailing list created
by R. A. Hettinga 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

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[Users] ANNOUNCE: strongSwan mailing list created
by Andreas Steffen 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

<users(a)lists.freeswan.org> List-Archive: <https://mj2.freeswan.org/archives> Sender: users-owner(a)mj2.freeswan.org Hi, I'm happy to announce the setup of a mailing list for strongSwan, an OpenSource IPsec implementation for the Linux operating system, running both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. The strongSwan project home is http://www.strongswan.org strongSwan is based on the discontinued FreeS/WAN project and my X.509 patch that I have been developing over the last three years. The mailing list forum is open both to strongSwan users and developers/ contributors. If the list traffic will grow in volume, it will be split into separate users and developers lists. In order to limit SPAM, only subscribed list members can post to users(a)lists.strongswan.org Please subscribe to the list via the URL http://lists.strongswan.org/mailman/listinfo/users/ An archive of the mailing list will be maintained at http://lists.strongswan.org/pipermail/users/ Kind regards Andreas ======================================================================= Andreas Steffen e-mail: andreas.steffen(a)strongsec.com strongSec GmbH home: http://www.strongsec.com Alter Z|richweg 20 phone: +41 1 730 80 64 CH-8952 Schlieren (Switzerland) fax: +41 1 730 80 65 ==========================================[strong internet security]=== _______________________________________________ FreeS/WAN Users mailing list users(a)lists.freeswan.org https://mj2.freeswan.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[Users] ANNOUNCE: strongSwan mailing list created
by Andreas Steffen 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

<users(a)lists.freeswan.org> List-Archive: <https://mj2.freeswan.org/archives> Sender: users-owner(a)mj2.freeswan.org Hi, I'm happy to announce the setup of a mailing list for strongSwan, an OpenSource IPsec implementation for the Linux operating system, running both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. The strongSwan project home is http://www.strongswan.org strongSwan is based on the discontinued FreeS/WAN project and my X.509 patch that I have been developing over the last three years. The mailing list forum is open both to strongSwan users and developers/ contributors. If the list traffic will grow in volume, it will be split into separate users and developers lists. In order to limit SPAM, only subscribed list members can post to users(a)lists.strongswan.org Please subscribe to the list via the URL http://lists.strongswan.org/mailman/listinfo/users/ An archive of the mailing list will be maintained at http://lists.strongswan.org/pipermail/users/ Kind regards Andreas ======================================================================= Andreas Steffen e-mail: andreas.steffen(a)strongsec.com strongSec GmbH home: http://www.strongsec.com Alter Z|richweg 20 phone: +41 1 730 80 64 CH-8952 Schlieren (Switzerland) fax: +41 1 730 80 65 ==========================================[strong internet security]=== _______________________________________________ FreeS/WAN Users mailing list users(a)lists.freeswan.org https://mj2.freeswan.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: expiring bearer documents
by Major Variola (ret) 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

At 01:59 PM 3/26/04 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >At 10:14 AM -0800 3/26/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >>The point is that the asset (a performance) which the >>bearer-document (ticket) grants access to expires. I think that's >>actually orthogonal to the >>ticket itself expiring. > >Okay. The inverse, maybe. No, they're orthogonal. You can have a persistant asset, your access to which expires; and you can have an ephemeral asset, access to which is persistant. >Maybe you're talking about a derivative then. Nope. >>And, like a 10 year treasury note, appreciate with age. > >Isn't that the opposite of what you just said? Merely an example of an asset which gains value in a known way, the opposite of an asset which loses value in known way. The point is that any anonymous/finder's-spenders document is a form of cash; but some of these grant access to time-varying value. (My insight prompted by learning that its legal to resell tickets if you go through a licensed reseller. My impression had been that all such transactions were called scalping and called illegal (despite their being mutually voluntary) by the current regime.) (The interesting theme is that the properties of ordinary cash are separable and in some cases modifiable, as in the above time-sensitive cash or the finders-not-spenders variant I once described here, viz: One could create anonymous "cash" with the property that its *not* finder's-spenders because it has a PIN (basically a stored-value card); and that it would be recoverable if the anonymity were lost. )

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Re: corporate vs. state
by Frog 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

Harmon Seaver wrote: > If a "voluntary association" injures me, Associations - corporate or otherwise - are abstract, intangible entities. They don't perform actions. People do. > each and every person involved in it should be liable. If a member of a club, to which you belong, commits an act of violence, are you liable for that act?

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Bush Regime Bitch-Slapped By WTO
by Major Variola (ret.) 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

The World Trade Organization, in its first decision on an Internet-related dispute, has ignited a political, cultural and legal tinderbox by ruling that the United States policy prohibiting online gambling violates international trade law. The ruling, issued by a W.T.O. panel on Wednesday, is being hailed by operators of online casinos based overseas as a major victory that could force America to liberalize laws outlawing their business. But the Bush administration vowed to appeal the decision, and several members of Congress said they would rather have an international trade war or withdraw from future rounds of the World Trade Organization than have American social policy dictated from abroad. <snip> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/26/technology/26gamble.html ------- I'll wager 10 credits that Mushareff is dead before Bush is out of D.C.

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Re: Anonymizer employees need killing
by Eric Tully 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

From The Register: "To download the online picture, he used the anonymising Surfola service (and not Anonymiser.com as we mistakenly wrote in our initial report - apologies to all concerned - Ed), believing the companys privacy policy would protect him." So now I don't know what to believe. Either Anonymizer was never involved... or they don't want it known that they sold out so they asked for a retraction. - Eric An Metet wrote: > Anonymizer is working with the FBI on international blackmail cases - no > subpoena required! > >>From http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36485.html : > > "To download the online picture, he used the Anonymizer.com service, > believing the companys privacy policy would protect him. Not so. Dutch > police worked closely with the US company and the FBI to track him down. > He was caught red-handed last year when he withdrew the money from a cash > machine using his copy of the credit card. > > Which just goes to show that even criminal masterminds can make simple > mistakes. The error, experts say, could have been easily avoided if the > blackmailer had visited an internet cafe to download the encoded picture, > rather than using his own PC. What's more, he paid for the Anonymizer > service through Paypal, giving his personal email address." > > > Fuck these sell-outs.

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Re: Anonymizer employees need killing
by petard 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 01:32:43AM -0500, An Metet wrote: > >From http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/36485.html : > > "To download the online picture, he used the Anonymizer.com service, > believing the companys privacy policy would protect him. Not so. Dutch The article got it wrong. He used Surfola. They've since corrected it.

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the Black Bloc Corporation
by Major Variola (ret) 26 Mar '04

26 Mar '04

At 12:28 AM 3/26/04 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: >On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 09:43:53PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >> >If a member of a club, to which you belong, commits an act of violence, >> are you liable for that act? >> > > No, but if the "club", as an entity, does such, you should be. The "club" are protesters wearing black. Some protesters threw bricks. You're busted for their actions.

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