December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Applauding Violence (was: Re: Wine Politics Again! (fwd))
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 04:07:36 +0200 (MET DST) > Subject: Re: Wine Politics Again! (fwd) > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > From: nobody(a)replay.com (Anonymous) > Organization: Replay and Company UnLimited > Reply-to: nobody(a)replay.com (Anonymous) Froomkin wrote: >> On Fri, 9 May 1997, Tim May wrote: >>Every day that passes, I'm more convinced that McVeigh did the right >>thing. Some innocents died, but, hey, war is hell. Broken eggs and all >>that. > It ill behooves participants in a democracy to either advocate or even > tolerate or even cluck sympathetically at mass murder for political ends. > This way lies Bosnia. > A. Michael Froomkin Agreed. I'm getting progressively more turned off by Tim's developing survivalist/confrontationist stance. I fear that journalists and other casual readers will mistake his positions for common 'cypherpunk' viewpoints. The type of armed, ingrained bitterness towards all aspects and manifestations of government he displays is hazardous to himself personally; I can envisage a simple traffic stop turning violent. Worse, he's demonizing his opponent. This is counter-productive. It's better to try to understand the actual underlying goals of your opponent - it gives you a much better chance at turning him into your ally, or avoiding a conflict if you cannot do that. If he can be neither turned nor avoided, the minimum action to change the status quo should be used. If Tim truly maintains that a 'war' is underway between people like him and the government, than he would be in no position to complain if Clinton's men treated his little hilltop retreat as an enemy outpost. For all his pride in it's defensibility, they could take it out in seconds if respect for due process, the Constitution, and a real concern for the lives of innocents did not stop them. The policies of the current gang in power are bad, and may well get worse. But terrorism is not yet an appropriate response, and I pray that it never will be. Peter Trei trei(a)Process.com

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Unexportable crypto
by ET 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A simple substitution cypher has a keyspace of 26! ~ 2**88 Isn't this too strong to export?

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The Interlinked Cypherpunks Lists?
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've recently had some of my articles sent to "cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net" bounce (more precisely: "<cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net>... Deferred: Connection timed out with rigel.cyberpass.net. Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours"). And I've received no Cypherpunks list traffic more recently dated than Saturday morning. (I'm subscribed to cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net.) I surmise that something is wrong. So I've subscribed to one of the alternates, cypherpunks(a)algebra.com. Some thoughts: * Is it possible for the interlinked lists to send out announcements of list problems to subscriber of all such lists? (Each list owner could do a periodic "who cypherpunks" of the other lists, then use this list to send a message if a problem comes up. More sophisticated cross-processing could eliminate duplicates, etc.) * Alternatively, if one of the sites goes down, such as "cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net" seems to have done, could the other sites automagically pick up the task of distributing articles until the site comes back up? * How feasible is it to have a single "virtual subscription address" which gets traffic from one of the various list sites? (To avoid having to subscribe to two or more lists and thus getting duplicates.) I'll resubmit a few of my recent articles to cypherpunks(a)algebra.com. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Camera Hacking
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(I sent this article to cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net, but am getting no traffic from that site, and some of my messages have bounced. I've subscribed to cypherpunks(a)algebra.com and will resubmit some of my recent articles to that address. It would be nice if the "interlinked lists" system could work to handle outages of sites, and not just mutual distributions of articles. Any ideas?) >Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:37:24 -0800 >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> >Subject: Re: Camera Hacking >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >At 9:02 PM -0800 5/10/97, Alan Olsen wrote: > >>The best weapon against a 35mm camera is a flash from a camera. Aim at the >>lens and fire. (Only if they are looking through it.) The screams are >>worth it. (One of the few joys of my high school photography class.) > >Reminds me of an old astronomy club trick. > >Take any reasonble aperture telescope. Use a reasonable magnification for >the target such that target window fills the field of view. Place a >standard electronic flash where the eye normally is. (Increased efficiency >is gotten by arranging for as much of the output to go into the eyepieces >as possible...this can be done with an "integrating sphere," e.g., an >aluminum foil sphere with a single exit at the eyepiece.) > >After dark, aim the telescope in the window of your victim. Best results >are gotten if they have the lights off, e.g., while they're watching >television. > >Trigger the flash. > >The startled reactions as their room fills with a flash of light are >interesting. Some of them may even think they're under nuclear attack. > >This of course works best from afar. Apartment buildings with views of >other apartment buildings, for example. Don't this from the bushes, or >even from across a street. > >--Tim May > > > There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Crypto Makes Nuclear Disinfectants Easier to Deploy
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(I sent this article to cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net, but am getting no traffic from that site, and some of my messages have bounced. I've subscribed to cypherpunks(a)algebra.com and will resubmit some of my recent articles to that address. It would be nice if the "interlinked lists" system could work to handle outages of sites, and not just mutual distributions of articles. Any ideas?) >Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 19:58:02 -0800 >To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net >From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> >Subject: Crypto Makes Nuclear Disinfectants Easier to Deploy >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >At 3:25 PM -0800 5/10/97, Duncan Frissell wrote: >>On Sat, 10 May 1997, Kent Crispin wrote: >> >>> I would expect a "cypherpunk riot" to be a little more aimed at >>> cyberspace than real-world suburban neighborhoods. Wouldn't you? >> >>Tim was mostly talking about nuking the District of Columbia. You will >>note that that is an artificial community filled entirely with politicians >>and their sycophants. It is sort of like the train that Ayn has blow up >>in the Rocky Mountain tunnel in Atlas Shrugged. There are no innocents >>there. (Well a few tourists and Ethiopian immigrants who don't know better >>but you can't win 'em all.) Note also that he is hoping others will do >>the deed. He's not volunteering. >> >>There will be a few unfortunate explosions in the world over the next few >>years so I'm sure Tim is just hoping for a beneficial target selection. > >Indeed. Beneficial target selection. Though I think it much more likely >that the U.S.-recognized capital of the Zionist entity will be a more >likely target to undergo nuclear cleansing. (And even there some innocent >civilians, both Muslim and Jew, will surely be hastened to their meetings >with Allah, He Whose Name May Not be Expressed (YHWH), or the Great Honey >Bear. No accounting for wanting to live in near Ground Zero...religion is >a strange thing.) > >What I think a careful perusal of my comments about D.C. will reveal is >that I will not cry for its destruction, and would, all in all, smile a >broad grin if I wake up some morning to hear on CNN that D.C. is no more. >It's a free country, so I can express such happy thoughts about such >corruptions being cleansed. > >(As for crypto and Cypherpunks, anyone who is honest must admit that >strong crypto and Cypherpunks are helping to make this a more plausible >scenario. The bullshit that strong crypto is only for "democratic forces" >is too naive to even comment on. Strong crypto is to give a handful of >people the power to undermine statist authorities and imperial capitals.) > >--Tim May > > There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Sabotaging the U.S. Military-Industrial War Machine
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(I sent this article to cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net, but am getting no traffic from that site, and some of my messages have bounced. I've subscribed to cypherpunks(a)algebra.com and will resubmit some of my recent articles to that address. It would be nice if the "interlinked lists" system could work to handle outages of sites, and not just mutual distributions of articles. Any ideas?) >Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 19:39:47 -0800 >To: Kent Crispin <kent(a)songbird.com>, cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net >From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> >Subject: Sabotaging the U.S. Military-Industrial War Machine >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > > >(Contrary to rumors, I _do) have a live outside of the Net. I've been away >this weekend. I probably can't, or won't, respond to all of the comments >about my recent posts.) > >At 12:57 PM -0800 5/10/97, Kent Crispin wrote: > >>I would expect a "cypherpunk riot" to be a little more aimed at >>cyberspace than real-world suburban neighborhoods. Wouldn't you? >> > >Sorry. I misunderstood you to be speaking of the "fouling of one's own >nest" (or whatever the ebonics translation might be) riots of recent years. > >You are correct that a kind of riot in cyberspace is possible. However, I >think the attacks (not riots) will not be oriented toward mayhem (no pun >intended) toward one's neighbors, but towards destablization of >democracies and military-industrial facilities. > >In particular, various attacks against the national labs. > >And technologies to make the "force of democracy" lose their teeth. > >Subscribe to the Info-War news list for more, although they are >unfortunately biased toward the U.S. propaganda machine. (It was by some >of them that I was characterized as an "information terrorist," a label I >view as an honor.). > >(Hint: I was quoted/interviewed in oppostion to the Pentagon's >"info-warriors" in a BBC television show called "The I-Bomb." My thesis, >not all of which was inclued in the BBC programme, was that strong crypto >would and should be used to destablilze U.S. efforts to dominate the New >World Order. If an I-bomb could destroy the Pentagon, Livermore, Los >Alamos, and so on, I would press the button tonight. The U.S. military >machine is vastly more powerful than it needs to be meet the threat of >invasion of our shores (hint: even Hitler and Tojo were not real threat to >U.S. shores) and whatever is needed should be done to destabilize and >sabotage the U.S. industrial war machine.) > >The spread of anonymous remailer is already being used to break the back >of the U.S. war propaganda system. (Given that Lowell Wood's crimes are >being liberated and sent to non-U.S. sites for their use in defeating the >war machine). > >Cypherpunks stand for making the United States just another bunch of >contiguous geographic regions. > >--Tim May > > There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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whine politics again
by Monique Lamont 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

on the subject of wine-importing restrictions in florida: tcmay wrote: > Chiles and his co-conspirators should be shot for high crimes > against the > Constitution. After Clinton, Freeh, Kerrey, and the other traitors. > > Every day that passes, I'm more convinced that McVeigh did the right > thing. > Some innocents died, but, hey, war is hell. Broken eggs and all > that. oh yaah. you betcha. it's illegal to ship wine to floridans now, so therefore it is okay to execute the responsible officials and blow up innocents. no doubt there are hundreds of cypherpunks out there nodding their heads in blithe agreement at this point. HELLO PEOPLE! buy a clue from the Discount Clue Store, and while you are out, stop by the Jiffy Lube and get your common human decency refilled. love, alice0 --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Money orders, debit cards, ...
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:11 5/11/97 -0700, Greg Broiles wrote: >At 02:12 AM 5/11/97 -0700, David Wagner wrote: >>(Note: contents of calls are protected by law, but traffic analysis >>specifically is allowed, far as I can tell.) > >Correct. There is no (federal) constitutionally protected privacy interest in >traffic-analysis data about phone calls, because (so the argument goes) that >data is voluntarily disclosed to a third party (the phone company). That argument is bullshit, however. Getting technical about it, you "disclose" your voice to the phone company so that it can digitize it and send it to its destination. If that argument were valid, voice would be unprotected as well. Chances are excellent that this odd position is a holdover from a time (1920's) when many if not most telephone calls were manually switched, and you had to tell the (human) operator the number you wanted to call. That act of telling was probably considered "disclosure." However, logically the adoption of a system of automatic switching (which doesn't require recording the number called; for many decades such recording wasn't even done because it was economically impractical except for charged LD) would eliminate the presumption that the number was already "disclosed." Since phone company operations subsequent to call takedown do not require the recording of destination numbers, any more than they need to record voice, the constitutional treatment of these two pieces of information should be identical. In any case, constitutional rights should not depend on (or be limited by) the state of technology 70 years ago. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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No Subject
by Kamil Golombek 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

lists begin:vcard fn:Golombek, Kamil n:Golombek;Kamil org:Military Academy Brno email;internet:zero@molly.vabo.cz title:student x-mozilla-cpt:;0 x-mozilla-html:TRUE end:vcard

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Re: Disinformation in L.A.
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:08 AM 5/11/97 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >I note that Washington, DC occasionally even contains Duncan Frissells, >Lucky Greens, and Sameer Parekhs. There are worse ways of dying than being vaporized. In fact, there are worse ways of living than dying. No, I do not believe this to currently be the case. In my book, the US is presently the best place to live. As does Tim. Still, I do accept anonymous email. Especially if it contains travel blackout days. Seriously, I doubt anybody on this list is going to do something violent. That doesn't mean I think that nobody in the world is willing to nuke DC. I am told that quite a few Russian nukes are unaccounted for. Just for the record, I believe that it considerably more likely for New York City to be nuked than DC. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." Mahatma Gandhi

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