December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: your mail
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: "Liten rolig historia (fwd)" (fwd) Nothing wrong in being superstitious... > > READ THIS MESSAGE AND PASS IT ON.... > > A man takes the day off work and decides to go out golfing. He is > > on the second hole when he notices a frog sitting next to the green. > > He thinks nothing of it and is about to shoot when he hears, > > "Ribbit. 9 Iron" The man looks around and doesn't see anyone. > > "Ribbit. 9 Iron." He looks at the frog and decides to prove the > > frog wrong, puts his other club away, and grabs a 9 iron. Boom! he > > hits it 10 inches from the cup. He is shocked. He says to the frog, > > "Wow that's amazing. You must be a lucky frog, eh?" The frog reply's > > "Ribbit. Lucky frog." The man decides to take the frog with him to > > the next hole. "What do you think frog?" the man asks. "Ribbit. 3 > > wood." The guy takes out a 3 wood and Boom! Hole in one. The man is > > befuddled and doesn't know what to say. By the end of the day, the > > man golfed the best game of golf in his life and asks the frog,"OK > > where to next?" The frog replied, "Ribbit. Las Vegas." They go to > > Las Vegas and the guy says, "OK frog, now what?" The frog says, > > "Ribbit Roulette." Upon approaching the roulette table, the man > > asks," What do you think I should bet?" The frog replies, "Ribbit. > > $3000,black 6." Now, this is a million-to-one shot to win, but after > > the golf game, the man figures what the heck. Boom! Tons of cash > > comes sliding back across the table. The man takes his winnings and > > buys the best room in the hotel. He sits the frog down and says, > > "Frog, I don't know how to repay you. You've won me all this money > > and I am forever grateful." The frog replies, "Ribbit, Kiss Me." He > > figures why not, since after all the frog did for him he deserves > > it. With a kiss, the frog turns into a gorgeous 14-year-old girl. > > "And that, your honor, is how the girl ended up in my room." > > > > The origination of this letter is unknown, but it brings good > > luck to everyone who passes it on. The one who breaks the chain > > will have bad luck. Do not keep this letter. Do not send money. > > Just forward it to five of your friends to whom you wish good luck. > > You will see that something good happens to you four days from now > > if the chain is not broken. You will receive good luck in four > > days.

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Re: your mail
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: "Liten rolig historia (fwd)" (fwd) Nothing wrong in being superstitious... > > READ THIS MESSAGE AND PASS IT ON.... > > A man takes the day off work and decides to go out golfing. He is > > on the second hole when he notices a frog sitting next to the green. > > He thinks nothing of it and is about to shoot when he hears, > > "Ribbit. 9 Iron" The man looks around and doesn't see anyone. > > "Ribbit. 9 Iron." He looks at the frog and decides to prove the > > frog wrong, puts his other club away, and grabs a 9 iron. Boom! he > > hits it 10 inches from the cup. He is shocked. He says to the frog, > > "Wow that's amazing. You must be a lucky frog, eh?" The frog reply's > > "Ribbit. Lucky frog." The man decides to take the frog with him to > > the next hole. "What do you think frog?" the man asks. "Ribbit. 3 > > wood." The guy takes out a 3 wood and Boom! Hole in one. The man is > > befuddled and doesn't know what to say. By the end of the day, the > > man golfed the best game of golf in his life and asks the frog,"OK > > where to next?" The frog replied, "Ribbit. Las Vegas." They go to > > Las Vegas and the guy says, "OK frog, now what?" The frog says, > > "Ribbit Roulette." Upon approaching the roulette table, the man > > asks," What do you think I should bet?" The frog replies, "Ribbit. > > $3000,black 6." Now, this is a million-to-one shot to win, but after > > the golf game, the man figures what the heck. Boom! Tons of cash > > comes sliding back across the table. The man takes his winnings and > > buys the best room in the hotel. He sits the frog down and says, > > "Frog, I don't know how to repay you. You've won me all this money > > and I am forever grateful." The frog replies, "Ribbit, Kiss Me." He > > figures why not, since after all the frog did for him he deserves > > it. With a kiss, the frog turns into a gorgeous 14-year-old girl. > > "And that, your honor, is how the girl ended up in my room." > > > > The origination of this letter is unknown, but it brings good > > luck to everyone who passes it on. The one who breaks the chain > > will have bad luck. Do not keep this letter. Do not send money. > > Just forward it to five of your friends to whom you wish good luck. > > You will see that something good happens to you four days from now > > if the chain is not broken. You will receive good luck in four > > days.

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Another Bell related raid
by Alan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is from the Oregonian May 16th, 1997 page B3 under the Vancouver section. 2nd home raided in probe of anti-government activities A team of federal agents, led by IRS internal security personnel, raided a home at 711 W. 20th St. Thursday morning. The raid apperently is a continuation of an investigation into the activities of James D. Bell, whose McLaughlin Heights home at 7214 Corregidor Road was raided April 1st. The 20th Street home is occupied by Robert W. West, who was not home when the raid occured. A federal agent who answered his phone during the search refused to say what the agents were seeking. The search warrent application and affidavit is under seal by a federal court in Tacoma. In the affidavit for the search warrent for Bell's home, IRS Special Investigator Jeff Gordon alledged that Bell was "directly solicting others to set up a system to murder government officials." Bell is the author of a 10-part essay called "Assassination Politics," which has been widely circulated on the Internet, particularly in anti-government forums. After the raid, agents made no other public statements.

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Re: your mail
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subject: "Liten rolig historia (fwd)" (fwd) Nothing wrong in being superstitious... > > READ THIS MESSAGE AND PASS IT ON.... > > A man takes the day off work and decides to go out golfing. He is > > on the second hole when he notices a frog sitting next to the green. > > He thinks nothing of it and is about to shoot when he hears, > > "Ribbit. 9 Iron" The man looks around and doesn't see anyone. > > "Ribbit. 9 Iron." He looks at the frog and decides to prove the > > frog wrong, puts his other club away, and grabs a 9 iron. Boom! he > > hits it 10 inches from the cup. He is shocked. He says to the frog, > > "Wow that's amazing. You must be a lucky frog, eh?" The frog reply's > > "Ribbit. Lucky frog." The man decides to take the frog with him to > > the next hole. "What do you think frog?" the man asks. "Ribbit. 3 > > wood." The guy takes out a 3 wood and Boom! Hole in one. The man is > > befuddled and doesn't know what to say. By the end of the day, the > > man golfed the best game of golf in his life and asks the frog,"OK > > where to next?" The frog replied, "Ribbit. Las Vegas." They go to > > Las Vegas and the guy says, "OK frog, now what?" The frog says, > > "Ribbit Roulette." Upon approaching the roulette table, the man > > asks," What do you think I should bet?" The frog replies, "Ribbit. > > $3000,black 6." Now, this is a million-to-one shot to win, but after > > the golf game, the man figures what the heck. Boom! Tons of cash > > comes sliding back across the table. The man takes his winnings and > > buys the best room in the hotel. He sits the frog down and says, > > "Frog, I don't know how to repay you. You've won me all this money > > and I am forever grateful." The frog replies, "Ribbit, Kiss Me." He > > figures why not, since after all the frog did for him he deserves > > it. With a kiss, the frog turns into a gorgeous 14-year-old girl. > > "And that, your honor, is how the girl ended up in my room." > > > > The origination of this letter is unknown, but it brings good > > luck to everyone who passes it on. The one who breaks the chain > > will have bad luck. Do not keep this letter. Do not send money. > > Just forward it to five of your friends to whom you wish good luck. > > You will see that something good happens to you four days from now > > if the chain is not broken. You will receive good luck in four > > days.

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Lucky's explaination...
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky Green wrote: > At 11:39 PM 5/15/97 CST, TruthMonger wrote: > >Tim May wrote: > >> Further, a clever little fix is to make one's own remailer site a link in > >> the chain. All a snooping subset of remailers can do is trace the message > >> back to your own remailers. Obviously, they can't know if the message was > >> merely _remailed_ through your site, or _originated_ there. Thus, including > >> oneself as a remailer also provides excellent plausible deniability.) > > This is a lame idea with no merit whatsoever. > Since Tim's statement describes today's standard practice for increasing > security for one's remailed messages, perhaps TruthMonger would like to > explain why it has no merit. But then again, TruthMonger = Infowar. Guess > we won't see an explanation that has merit. If you had read the header of the message, then you would have seen the explaination. TruthMonger

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New Canadian Techno Law
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From RCMP Web Site: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ Late last year, Allan Rock, minister of justice, introduced a bill containing nearly 150 proposed amendments to the Criminal Code and related statutes. Highlights of Bill C-17 include several changes to address computer crime, credit card forgery and fraud and fraudulently obtaining services. The RCMP, supported strongly by the Canadian Bankers Association and the Canadian issuers of Visa and MasterCard, had previously urged a number of changes to offences dealing with credit card fraud and computer-assisted crimes. Bill C-17 is presently before Parliament and is in the second reading stage. The following legislative proposals will be of interest to law enforcement agencies and to our private and public sector partners engaged in the detection, investigation, and prosecution of technological crime: Expanding section 183 of the Criminal Code to include new offences for which an authorization to intercept private communication could be granted. The new offences would include, inter alia, section 327, section 342, section 342.1, section 342.2, and section 430 of the Criminal Code. Amending section 342 to make possession, use, or trafficking of forged credit cards an offence. Amending section 342 to make the misuse of credit card data an offence. Amending section 342 to make it an offence to make, buy or sell, export or import, or possess equipment intended for use in forging credit cards. Amending section 342.1 to make it an offence to use, possess, or traffick in computer passwords that would enable another person to fraudulently obtain a computer service. Creating section 342.2 to make it an offence to make, possess, sell, offer for sale, or distribute any instrument or device that is intended to be used to fraudulently obtain a computer service. Amending section 487 to impose a duty on the person in possession or control of a computer system to provide data in the form of a print-out or other intelligible output when a lawful search of such a facility is being conducted. Technological Crime Section is optimistic that the proposed amendments, once passed into law, will significantly aid its efforts in dealing with this rapidly emerging and sometimes very troublesome genre of crimes. For further information and updates on the progress of this bill, readers are encouraged to consult the Department of Justice Homepage at: http://canada.justice.gc.ca.

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BofA / Visa to test Cash Online
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Anonymous Remailers
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:39 PM 5/15/97 CST, TruthMonger wrote: >Tim May wrote: > >> Further, a clever little fix is to make one's own remailer site a link in >> the chain. All a snooping subset of remailers can do is trace the message >> back to your own remailers. Obviously, they can't know if the message was >> merely _remailed_ through your site, or _originated_ there. Thus, including >> oneself as a remailer also provides excellent plausible deniability.) > > This is a lame idea with no merit whatsoever. Since Tim's statement describes today's standard practice for increasing security for one's remailed messages, perhaps TruthMonger would like to explain why it has no merit. But then again, TruthMonger = Infowar. Guess we won't see an explanation that has merit. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred "I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence." Mahatma Gandhi

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17 Dec '03

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Re: The Inducement of Rapid Oxidation of Certain Materials....
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Duncan Frissell wrote: > For the actual numbers of the major government murders see > > http://www.laissezfaire.org/pl6300.html > > DEATH BY GOVERNMENT > by R.J. Rummel > (Transaction Books, 1994) > I. Background Over 133,147,000 Murdered: Pre-Twentieth-Century Democide, 45. > II. 128,168,000 Victims: The DekaMegaMurderers > III. 19,178,000 Victims: The Lesser MegaMurderers > IV 4,145,000 Victims: The Suspected MegaMurderers Duncan, You have to keep in mind that these deaths were all necessary in order to curtail drug dealing and pornography. (Although it gave rise to a sharp increase in necrophilia.) I read a passage of a book long ago in which a historian recounted a number of different fallen dictators known for bloody purges who reminesced that if they had controlled their moments of "softness" (translate~~killed more of the right people) that they would still be in power. I wonder if Hitler's final words were, "Well, they won't have Adolf Hitler to kick around, anymore." DeathMonger

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