December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Toto update...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I thought I'd post an update on my situation. I've been released from the Grand Jury in Nov. at this time. My affadavit was found to be sufficient. If further action on my part is needed I'll be contacted. As to posting the affadavit and such. I've been asked, and will comply, not to release the photo of Toto. I do intend to post the subepoena and the affadavit but only after Nov. and most likely not until after the new year and I'm sure the issues are reasonably resolved. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by nations＠freeyellow.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> What is privacy? In the longwords of Toto the Manicgnificant (tm): The ability to say, "fuck off", and mean it.

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Women cannot commit rape?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Trees cannot be indicted for assasination -Bono Kennedy

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Re: Censored news topic censored ...
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Would any of the NPR staff or Mr. Suarez would like > to explain just what happened here? I'll take a stab: milk spills, people trip, shit happens. They probably didn't mean it. But who knows. -- Spy King Communications spyking(a)hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: Censored news topic censored ...
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mr. Suarez, Ah ... I see where the misunderstandings are ... I am listening to the program on "The Budget Deal", which is the hour most likely to have any mention of the roving wiretap provision. On-the-air transcripts or not, however, I think you still miss the central point. The issue is that most major news outlets did NOT report on HOW this provision was rammed through Congress. I did not specifically accuse YOU of not reporting, which is probably why you are so defensive. Certainly, the Market Place show reported this, and so did the San Jose Mercury, but not New York Times. ABCNEWS only said that something was passed to help law enforcement, as if anything passed to help law enforcement is necessarily a good thing. The issue is not whether the issue of roving wire taps got any light of day. The issue is that the process of the roving wire taps being rammed through Congress did NOT get the light of day, specifically because the FBI lobbyists did this at the last minute to get it hidden in all the noise of the frantic 11th hour budget deals ... which is why I thought the topic was most appropriate to the discussion of relevant news today. I did not claim to have a solution to the problem of too much noise to valuable news ratio. However, some insight from someone like you, Ray, could have been a good discussion and education for all of us concerned with the FBI's legislative tricks. I would have also brought up the lack of reporting on the EU's concerns about US/UK mass wire tapping. It's clear that the NSA does not want this topic discussed, and in fact, had pressured the EU to not bring up the topic. Wired magazine reported this within the last week, but S J Mercury had nothing on it, nor the N Y Times, etc ... Ray, please do not think I am accusing YOU of censoring the wire tap topic. What I am concerned about is the news media's role in not shining a bright lights on these topics, and that is a very serious issue. Ern -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hedges <hedges(a)infonex.com> Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Censored news topic censored ... >Interesting. Back to you, Ernest. >>From: TOTNMAIL(a)npr.org >>Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:24:54 -0400 >>To: HEDGES(a)INFOPEACE.COM >>Your "evidence" of NPR collusion and stifling of the news would be most >>disturbing, except for the fact that I have discussed roving wiretaps on the >>air, explained the manner in which they were being rammed through with little >>debate, and talked about how it was a departure from years of precedence >>regarding warrants and court permission. I have the on-air transcript, you >>have >>the hearsay of a caller who is disappointed because he didn't get on the air. >> >>Ray Suarez > >>This is most distressing. I was one of the very first >>callers to your Talk of the Nation show today whose >>topic was relevant news reporting in the US. My topic >>was the lack of reporting on the FBI's last minute >>sneak of the roving wire tap proposal into the >>intelligence budget bill. I wanted Ray to talk about >>the editorial process and how these things get dropped >>on the floor as this item is extremely important to >>our democracy because it is an agency charged with >>protecting our Constitutional rights (the FBI) who is >>deliberately circumventing the democratic legislative >>process to pass a law which was sounded defeated two >>years ago in open debate. >> >>Ironically, my topic was censored, and I waited an >>hour, while other people wanted to discuss things >>like how they can vent about their divorce >>difficulties through the Monica Lewinsky scandal, only >>to be dropped in the end. >> >>Would any of the NPR staff or Mr. Suarez would like >>to explain just what happened here? >> >>Ern

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UK Government unveils crypto escrow legislation
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:38:10 +0100 From: Malcolm Hutty <cacib(a)liberty.org.uk> To: declan(a)well.com Subject: UK Government unveils crypto escrow legislation The UK government has announced legislation designed to force escrow of confidentiality keys on UK netizens. They are planning a licenced system of Certificate Authorities in an attempt to force key escrow down the throats of British computer users. This could be a model for other governments. The idea is that digital signatures get preferential legal treatment if certified by a licenced CA, but to get a licence you must escrow confidentiality keys. The licensing authority will be OFTEL, the telecoms regulator. You may want to check out this link for full details http://omnisite.liberty.org.uk/cacib/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Campaign Against Censorship Tel: 0171 589 4500 of the Internet in Britain Say NO Fax: 0171 589 4522 60 Albert Court to censorship! Prince Consort Road cacib(a)liberty.org.uk London SW7 2BE http://www.liberty.org.uk/cacib/

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Gilmore Subpoena
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Source: Fax from John Gilmore [Form] AO 110 (Rev. 12/89) Subpoena to Testify Before Grand Jury _______________________________________________________________________ UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT WESTERN DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON _______________________________________________________________________ To: John Gilmore SUBPOENA TO TESTIFY 210 Clayton Street BEFORE GRAND JURY San Francisco, CA 94117 SUBPOENA FOR: [X] PERSON [X] DOCUMENT(S) OBJECT(S) YOU ARE HEREBY COMMANDED to appear before the Grand Jury of the United States District Court at the place, date and time specified below. _______________________________________________________________________ PLACE | COURTROOM | United States Courthouse | Room 311 5th and Madison |_________________________ Seattle, WA 98104 | DATE AND TIME | | November 10, 1998 | 1:15 P.M. _____________________________________________|_________________________ YOU ARE ALSO COMMANDED to bring with you the following document(s) or object(s):* Please provide any and all of the following: a. All electronic mail messages received, stored or otherwise obtained from or regarding the "Cypherpunks;" b. Any and all Cypherpunk archives obtained, stored, or controlled by you; and c. Any an all messages, correspondence, or e-mail, received from or involving CARL JOHNSON, C.J. PARKER, TOTO, TRUTHMONGER, A FIEND, to specifically include correspondence received from CARL JOHNSON while he was in Federal custody. [ ] Please see additional information on reverse This subpoena shall remain in effect until you are granted leave to depart by the court or by an officer acting on behalf of the court. _______________________________________________________________________ CLERK | DATE BRUCE RIFKIN Issued in Blank | Oct 6, 1998 _____________________________________________________| 1998R00917 (BY) DEPUTY CLERK | GJ 98-1 [Signature of Patricia McCabe] | S/N #19917 _____________________________________________________|_________________ | NAME ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER OF This subpoena is issued on | ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY application of the United States | of America | ROBB LONDON, AUSA | UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE | 800 5TH AVENUE, SUITE #3600 | SEATTLE, WA 98104 206/553-7970 _____________________________________|_________________________________ * If not applicable enter "none" [End subpoena] JG Note: Preliminary advice from an attorney is that it is likely the Electronic Communications Privacy Act covers this request for stored electronic communications, therefore requiring a real warrant (not a subpoena), reimbursement for the expenses of complying, etc. Others (if any) who have received similar subpoenas should consult with their attorneys, and are encouraged to publish (to the list and the JYA.COM web site) anything they receive from the government. Having more information is usually a good thing; currently the prosecutor knows what he's doing, so to speak, but we don't. ---------- This is archived at: http://jya.com/cej-wwa-jg.htm

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