December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Mack the Harrs over
by Zooko Journeyman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- X-Inside-Sig-To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com X-Inside-Sig-cc: Ryan Anderson <randerso(a)ece.eng.wayne.edu>, Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> X-Inside-Sig-Subject: Re: Mack the Harrs over X-Inside-Sig-Date: Sun Jul 6 13:42:19 CEST 1997 > Besides, how much encryption is needed between two points if intercepting > the traffic is expensive, the communications protocol is undocumented (as > far as anyone outside NASA is concerned), and the actual frequency is also > hard to find? Not to mention that the communication protocol is apparently broken and drops most of the data. :-P Somebody hack in there and fix it... Z -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBM7+E0BoBGQdOGvDZAQEA0gL/Q+N6Wr4r+NKA4Q6rC1U5op3Lcs7F8usc 6C382q6PfhzoDIUOUu+8SfPB4x5KdAYAe7UC3kn5FZ1NPoEoP3vMDsNm+Vqu6XBY yZPQbCdAkc35CYMHX70+wxcCJ8vRESTT =RWJa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Nat Sec in Your Home
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For worst-suspicions info on defense technology transfer to law enforcement: http://jya.com/tdt-le.htm With links to Justice and wide network of high tech crime fighters fostering civil war for your own good -- and their careers and budgets. Nat Sec coming home to roost: downsized soldiers, spies and scientists as sensors-r-us.

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Re: Mack the Harrs over (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Mack the Harrs over > Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 13:43:42 +0200 > From: Zooko Journeyman <zooko(a)wildgoose.dagny> > > Besides, how much encryption is needed between two points if intercepting > > the traffic is expensive, the communications protocol is undocumented (as > > far as anyone outside NASA is concerned), and the actual frequency is also > > hard to find? > > Not to mention that the communication protocol is apparently > broken and drops most of the data. :-P Really? You try sending data over 10 light-seconds using nothing but the equivalent of your Mag-Lite flashlight and then pick it up AND successfuly decode the data using nothing more than spare cycles in the DSN reception network. I suspect you are seriously underestimating the amount of noise betwix here and there... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Direct satellite systems? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 23:07:58 -0700 > From: Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> > Subject: Direct satellite systems? > My local cable killing Mars rover deployment in favor of local dog tag > ordinances (as required by the city), made me realize it that getting my > own dish is way overdue. > > I would appreciate reports on any first hand experiences subscribers to > this list have with satellite services. Yes, NASA TV and the SF channel is > a must. :-) NASA Select is the actual transponder you want to use for NASA stuff. Get any of the numerous satellite magazines and they will include not only a map of the commercial satellites but their location and other niceities. Note that this is not all the satellites you can receive since those not on the plane of the eccliptic will require a different mast-head (it requires both RA and declinination, where most low-cost commercial stuff only has RA). You will also want to check out comp.space.news and pick up the new satellite listings that come out about once a week or so. You will also get solar weather alerts on this newsgroup as well. The main downside a satellite system is that you don't get any of the local stations. On the hardware front, decide now what kind of coverage you want. If you have any hopes for a satellite modem (which can be quite fun to play with) then don't get the digital dish but go with the older C/K band dishes (3m). The setup that I use (and suggest) is: - local cable, at least minimal services to get the local stations - C/K band setup with dual decoders so that you can watch two transponder channels per bird - digital dish to receive the newer systems (if you can find a good source for digital sat modems for these please let me know) I'll give you a hint on how to get started, get to know somebody in the local sat business and get them to let you know when they replace an old C/K band system with a new digital systems. Usualy they throw the dish, mast-head, and cable away because they have no resale value. I got both of my C/K dishes this way. Spent maybe $100 on cables and connectors not counting the concrete I used to mount the masts. With the changes in the cable laws you can now buy hacks to the boxes on the open market. I *strongly* suggest making this purchase as anonymous as possible. My cable guy gets a visit from the FCC about once a year on some purchase he made. I get my ROM's and such at various electronic, hamfest, and video get togethers that happen in and around Ctl. Texas. I am shure if you check in your local areas similar events occur. (hint: get somebody else to drive to the event in their car and pay with cash only and never tell them anything about your real name or location). Last tip, buy your own center level and don't be stingy on the cost. The more vertical you can get your mast the happier you will be in the long run. Hope it helps. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Mack the Harrs over (fwd) (correction)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> > Subject: Re: Mack the Harrs over (fwd) > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 09:24:11 -0500 (CDT) > Really? You try sending data over 10 light-seconds using nothing but the ^^^^^^^ minutes Sorry for the typo. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Hack the Mars rover (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 06:43:06 -0400 (edt) > From: Ryan Anderson <randerso(a)ece.eng.wayne.edu> > Subject: Re: Hack the Mars rover > Somehow, I don't think that's the place to mount an attempt to take it > over. The prohibitive cost of getting an antenna into space where you can > counter some of the effects of Earth's spin and keep the damn rover in > contact all the time would be the biggest problem. The place to attack is the up-link. This requires physical access (ie a van with a dish and xmtr.) as well as a means to crack the encryption on the control channels. At least one French satellite has been cracked and de-orbited via a network attack. > Besides, how much encryption is needed between two points if intercepting > the traffic is expensive, the communications protocol is undocumented (as > far as anyone outside NASA is concerned), and the actual frequency is also > hard to find? The communications are not only documented but easily observable with the correct commercialy available equipment. The frequencies are a matter of public record, I would further bet that 5 minutes with a search engine would bring that data to light... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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No Subject
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know some of you are into goth and stuff, and since this list almost never talks about things related to cypherpunkery I thought I'd pop in something vaguely relevant. 31 Oct in OKC there's a masquerade ball/costume contest/art show/etc for those interested in the RPG "Kindred". Email if interested, otherwise ignore. anyone know of a good goth site to link a web page to? (It's not up yet.) Thx, jazzmin sommers "Work is the curse of the drinking classes." Oscar Wilde

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by health＠infogate.co.il 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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can i join
by Drifter0＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

thanx

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Jim Bell 6
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On June 26 the court handling Jim's case extended the time from June 30 to July 11 for the USA to file an indictment. This is from an on-line docket of the case via Public Access to Court Electronic Records (PACER) a subcription service for federal courts. No indication that Jim has been released, jailed since his arrest on May 16. No reason given for repeated waiver of right to a speedy trial. The docket's at: http://jya.com/jimbell-dock.htm

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