December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Roofing "Don't Be Ripped Off"
by adzam67＠concentric.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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New Rule
by The New Dictator 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From now on, no one can drink coffee out of yellow cups, ok? The reason for this is because there are child molesters. Thank you for your cooperation, or I will kill you. The New Dictator "I have a suitcase, and I'm not afraid to use it."

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The more things change...
by TruthMangler 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

sampler-request(a)lmboyd.com wrote: > ====================================================== > Q. Why do some countries make it a crime to commit > suicide? > A. Maybe so governments legally can confiscate the > property of the deceased. That's how it worked in ancient > Rome. Laws are made of money, it's said. > ============================================== > LMBoyd Web Site / U. S. Newspapers / Start Email / Stop Email > http://www.LMBoyd.com/postscript.htm

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Re: do NOT escrow communications keys
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> writes: > I'm arguing that you should not backup, or escrow communications keys, > and that you should backup storage keys. Euphemism alert: when we are talking about the kind of data recovery we like, we call it "backup". When we are talking about the kind we don't like, we call it "escrow". Schneier did the same thing: Bruce Schneier: > Key escrow = someone other than the author or the intended recipient of the > message being able to decrypt it. > > There are valid reasons for data backup, but they have nothing to do with > crypto key recovery. You don't actually mean that you should backup storage keys, you mean you should provide a means for someone other than the user to decrypt that stored data. Schneier means the same thing with regard to "data backup". > (forward secrecy) This could be a good idea, particularly in terms of old keys leaking out, but it needs more work. It's not clear that any of the forward secrecy methods will work for email. You can't easily do a DH key exchange via email because of the multiple messages. Maybe you could piggyback on ordinary messages, and after a few have been exchanged, you can get a DH key for the next message, but this is very complicated. Synchronization isn't guaranteed with email, neither is reliable delivery. > (untransferable signatures) This is also a good idea, but it needs more work, too. There is a big education problem here. People barely understand the implications of regular digital signatures. Now you are throwing this new kind in, which guarantee the message came from another person, but aren't binding. What happens when an employee receives a message from a supplier signed with that kind of signature? Can he make a decision on that basis, or not? In paper business correspondence, there is no such distinction. A signed letter is transferable. Go beyond this and business will be scratching its heads. It's a solution looking for a problem. There may be patents on these technologies, too. > (re-encrypting email with an escrowed key for archival) This is going to require special archival software and special actions on the part of users. You won't be able to do it as a transparent plugin. The user can't save his mail the regular way (with some email packages), he has to remember to (also?) save it to the business access archive. If he forgets, the business owner has lost access. There will be extra training costs, and people will have to change their habits. Besides being more complex to design and implement, it will be harder to sell to customers.

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BXA RFC on Export Controls
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"The Bureau of Export Administration (BXA) is reviewing the foreign policy-based export controls in the Export Administration Regulations to determine whether they should be modified, rescinded or extended. To help make these determinations, BXA is seeking comments on how existing foreign policy-based export controls have affected exporters and the general public." http://jya.com/bxa100897.txt

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Freeh Replaced! / Re: New Rule
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The New Dictator wrote: >From now on, no one can drink coffee out of yellow cups, ok? > > The reason for this is because there are child molesters. > > Thank you for your cooperation, or I will kill you. Must have been embarassing for Freeh to have gotten replaced by a child. Guess it has something to do with the new 'Truth in Tyranny' laws...

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The Globalization of Chile, from The Netly News (fwd)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:51:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship-announce(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: The Globalization of Chile, from The Netly News ************* http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1484,00.html The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com/) October 10, 1997 The Globalization of Chile By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) The wires are clogged again in Chile, a country with no shortage of Net-enthusiasm but little way to express it. Bandwidth is so limited in this remote country, which stretches almost to Antarctica, that local netizens wake up early or stay up late to log in (this report had to be filed via fax). Chile's connections to the outside world total about 9 Mb/sec, the same size pipe that a small U.S. Internet provider uses to connect to the Net. Chileans intend to change this. By next summer, fiber optic cables will gird the country on the east and west, snaking south from Brazil and Peru. The country's connectivity will jump to 200 times its current bandwidth. Even now, though, there's plenty of excitement about the Net in the capital, Santiago. Apple Chile, H.P. and the Cafe Internet Cybercenter line the Avenue Andres Bello. The REUNA Internet World Conference, which ends today, attracted hundreds of local businessmen. Companies such as Business News Americas email (for a fee) daily economic reports from Chile to American investors and analysts. But even if younger Chileans are cyber-savvy, the country remains staunchly conservative. Nearly 90 percent of Chileans are Roman Catholic (it was once the state religion) and Chile remains the only Western country where both divorce and abortion are illegal. Geography, too, has an effect. The South American country is ringed by deserts to the north, the Pacific Ocean to the west and the lofty Andes mountains to the east. [...]

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Re: Thanks Peter! / Re: russia_1.html
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed. Oct 8, Human Gus-Peter wrote: > Tell Declan that he should probably go visit his mom, or something, > like next Friday, until at least Monday (because that's when my mom > leaves Washington, 'you know where.'--{boy, is *she* going to be > sorry she grounded me on my uncle's weekend away from the 'Home'.}) > > My uncle's going to be mad when he finds out I took his suitcase, > but he couldn't even get his Heathkit radio to work, and I *almost* > did. Besides, you should never trust anyone over fifteen, eh? > (And these things are dangerous in the wrong hands, eh?) On Fri, Oct 10, Declan wrote: > The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com/) > October 10, 1997 > > The Globalization of Chile > By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) > > The wires are clogged again in Chile, a country with no shortage > of Net-enthusiasm but little way to express it. Bandwidth is so > limited in this remote country, which stretches almost to Antarctica, > that local netizens wake up early or stay up late to log in (this > report had to be filed via fax). Staying until Monday, Declan? Little Peter

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CAK as a really bad form of corporate networking
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've been scratching my head, trying to figure out what the market for PGP's new recovery program is for. After all, if employees have local disks and these disks are on a company network or backup plan, then the corporation has access to the plaintext of memos, reports, and plaintext sent and received e-mail. (The purpose of Alice encrypting to Bob being _in-transit_ security, and nothing more.) It seems to me that the CAK (Corporate Access to Keys) approach being talked about, where Alice encrypts to Bob and _also_ encrypts to Eve, is a poor solution to the "archiving" problem. As Adam Back and others have noted, if Alice stores her Eudora or whatever e-mail files on her systems, presumably in plaintext (as the purpose of encrypting with Bob is for _in-transit_ security, not storage security), then the corporation can insist that she make her plaintext files archivable on the company's backup system. One way to look at the market for CAK is that a company is too flaky to have a corporate network or backup strategy and is using CAK as a kind of crude networking scheme. E-mail, with cc:ing of the company crypto czar, is a way to archive or pool company traffic. A rather back-assed approach, it seems to me. Meaning no insult to PGP, Inc. or its fine programmers, it's as if this message was sent out: --begin internal Giant Corporation memorandum-- From: Cakbert, Evil PR and Security Administrator To: All Droids Subject: Mandatory Voluntary CAK System It has come to my attention that our attempts to get a corporate-wide network working have failed, and that we are using a mishmash of intranets, local LANs, and direct dial-out systems. This is thwarting our efforts to read what you people are writing to each other. Henceforth, to solve this network problem we must insist that you adopt a mandatory voluntary system of cc:ing me, Cakbert, on all of your messages. Encrypted messages must be voluntarily encrypted with PPP (Pretty Poor Privacy). Thank you for your attention. --end internal Giant Corporation memorandum-- --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: America as a Shake Down Extortion State
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ryan Anderson wrote: >Tim May wrote: >>The debate over crypto almost certainly fits this pattern. If and when a >>domestic ban on crypto is likely to pass and be signed, companies like RSA >>and PGP will face extinction. This will then "incentivize" executives of >>these companies to release funds, in the form of campaign > >Actually, I think it's a little more likely that they'll get disgusted with >Congress, and collect some money for the ACLU to use to pay their lawyers in >the instant filing of the consitutionality challenge. > >Seems to be a much more productive way to spend your money (long-term). Bullshit! Fuck the lawyers! By wasting time and money in the courts bickering about the stupid laws that buffoons in Congress pass in order to justify their existence, we are only ignoring the real issue: you cannot use the system to change the system. What amazes me is the amount of time and energy well-intentioned folks piss away trying to convince legislators to "do the right thing". By paying attention to these idiots, we are in effect legitimatizing their actions. If enough people come to their senses and ignored this bogus legislation, we will all be much better off in much less time. Tim May wrote elsewhere: >Face it, Amerika is basically a Mafia shake-down operation, with the power >of the State used to shake down protection money. > >This is why I favor crypto anarchy: by concentrating on ignoring laws and >deploying technology, this extortion state system is bypassed. Exactly. Spend the money on deploying the technology. Don't waste it lining the pockets of scum legislators and their litigious brethren. The big question is do PGP, RSA, Netscape et al have the balls to stand up for themselves and tell the DC politcos to fuck off? We can only hope... [ Imastun ] - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzQ+SNwAAAEEANhUVaFtM+8ZLhEhur55LhN0m/aUyemwVExEq96RUXkQlvBw H45ZcEMYzml7k2hM84rQiJEd/BPi18dhtXykz0vYqmke6BKDiAsR95ik+Jm3XXMU OQgHo0+asRJ85BOG+jm3424e4vY5/eTFaExNISW5T8XD+qgRgnC/ZQW0eQF1AAUR tBZJbWFzdHVuIDxsaWJlcnR5QHJpc2s+iQCVAwUQND5KIXC/ZQW0eQF1AQESOwP+ MPNlXlv/hzqoAaqXu4RpNR02XcMLOB5DwhG1pLij3Tt6uYfRqZul8eJ9LxvQ0R/R eT7g+j3dNpjcOSdCci4VYAPfdBK78esgDIn61cOiN29fGRwjJOO5rup9RvXBQt+T +Sf7D1gYlr/aDUGKMiBGGZhx2git7zpL7uqnvQn0WY8= =bXK7 - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBND5M5HC/ZQW0eQF1AQE4HwP+JJ1eiIFGVguO5PwRsRl0gAiVxYiSGpHP 6h8le1QAgNJTlCz7C/ObNjVmtHnw6vjcYewLXSsnF59cRPakAD/Y4NLSLP/vPzWk gbx6t9X8hb0vC2LWOA/UcXZQBoqfLEXexm4LehKU0LpDL7ggy6SBw8PDEOr3InSh f15W51XTv/0= =OBNd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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