December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Your "RIGHT" to Speak to Big Brother
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Today Janet "The Bitch of Waco" Reno held a news conference announcing that, in her not-so-humble opinion, Microsoft Corporation was in violation of a consent decree by virtue of bundling Internet Explorer with Windows '95, and that she was asking for a $1 million a day fine. Ho Hum. However, one tiny item in her news conference caught my attention. It wasn't related to IE or Windows, but to company secrets protected by non-disclosure agreements. Even though Microsoft has indicated that it does not intend for its non-disclosure agreements to be binding in a way which prevents persons from disclosing anything they like to the DOJ in a criminal investigation, the Feds apparently want the concept of non-disclosure to the government scrapped. Everyone, they claim, has a "right" to speak to the government on any subject whatsoever, which cannot be abrogated by anything as flimsy as a contract or agreement, designed to protect anothers secrets. After all, the government is your friend, and is here to help you. This was made clearer when The Bitch of Waco introduced her minion, Assistant Attorney General Joel Klein. "We're asking the court to order Microsoft to tell everyone who has signed or who in the future will sign a non- disclosure agreement, that it doesn't apply to the government, period. We won't allow anyone to interfere with the people's right to provide information to their government." And there you have it. The people's right to provide their neighbor's proprietary information their government shall not be infringed. How Constitutional-Sounding. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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RE: Impeachment of Janet Reno -- was Justice Department Sues Micr
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:20:09 -0400 Reply-To: com-priv(a)lists.ecosystems.net Originator: com-priv(a)lists.psi.com Sender: com-priv(a)lists.psi.com Precedence: bulk From: Com-Priv <com-priv(a)lists.ecosystems.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <com-priv(a)lists.psi.com> Subject: RE: Impeachment of Janet Reno -- was Justice Department Sues Micr X-Comment: Commercialization and Privatization of the Internet All right, I will justify (again) my position. Re: the bundling of a software with an Operating System. I will not say that I agree that there should be any restrictions or regulations regarding what applications can be "bundled" with an operating system. I will say that I vehemently disagree that the government should legislate what constitutes an operating system and what applications may be included. But I will concede that there is an ethical question regarding of bundling of any product with that of another in an effort to make bundled product competitive on something other than its merits. But please do not insult my intelligence. This is not the core issue at hand. Microsoft has been bundling IE since before it even had a version number when Windows 95 was originally released more than two years ago. I just took a close look at Windows 95 OEM Service Release 2, and you cannot not install IE -- that was released last summer. So I ask, why is this coming up now? The answer was given in the letter to the DOJ that Ralph Nadar's organization posted to this very list not more than one month ago. "Microsoft should not be permitted to...integrate the MSE with the operating system in ways that are unavailable to other firms." This is not the consumer public via DOJ against Microsoft, this is Netscape via DOJ against Microsoft. This is not about Windows 95 and IE 3.0, this is about Windows 98 and NT 5.0. Windows 98 and NT 5.0 have evolved the core operating system interface and functionality to be seamlessly integrated with and based upon Internet standards CIFS, LDAP, HTTP, HTML/XML, etc. This is what Netscape is attacking. There is a natural progression and market pressure to natively integrate Internet-based standards into both OS's and applications -- to legislatively prevent that is absolutely ridiculous and harmful to consumers. It would be the equivalent in my mind if the Australian maker of the Trumpet Winsocket (the most popular TCP/IP stack for Windows 3.1) had sued Microsoft for bundling TCP/IP with Windows 95/NT. All I can say about Netscape is the ability to successfully build and market software that complements or enhances another software package is dependent on a good relationship with that software vendor -- this is self-evident in the market. To self-proclaim yourself the destroyer of that vendor and then except that vendor to support you is utterly moronic -- they get what they deserve. For our mercenary government to pull out their guns in service of Netscape and force Microsoft to permit their existence is criminal. To proclaim Microsoft a monopoly and use that as justification to completely disregard reason, objectivity and rights of property, and disrupt the free market with subjective law and reason of guns is repulsive. I have trouble calling myself an American. Matt "You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against -- then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. Your fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. Once declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers---and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system...that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be easier to deal with." _Atlas Shrugged_ --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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17 Dec '03

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Cypherpunks Related (?) or merely about DC in general?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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French GAK
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Wall Street Journal, October 20, 1997: French Proposal For Encryption Is Worrying EC By Jennifer L. Schenker A proposed French law ensuring government access to corporate electronic communications is setting off alarm bells in the business community and on the European Commission. France, presenting the law as a liberalization of its current policy, is the only Western country that bans any domestic use of cryptography - technology that encodes data for protection against prying eyes. France also places strict controls on the export of encryption tools, a restriction imposed by certain other countries, including the U.S. The new rules, submitted to the European Commission on Thursday, allow businesses operating in France to encode their corporate secrets but require that keys to unlock the code be given to a French government-approved entity in which the majority of the capital or votes is retained by French nationals. Microsoft Corp., Netscape Communications Corp. and the Business Software Association have raised objections to the French proposal. The BSA represents major international software publishers and high-tech companies, including Novell Inc., Compaq Computer Corp., Apple Computer Inc. and Lotus, a unit of International Business Machines Corp. The proposal also requires companies selling products with embedded encryption software in France to reveal "source code" - the rough equivalent of asking Coke to reveal its secret formula. Some believe that such a key-recovery system would make it easier for competitors to gain access to a company's secrets. The BSA's European chapter is expected to release a public statement this week supporting the European Commission's decision earlier this month to reject the key-recovery approach to encryption, which is championed by both the U.S. and France. The commission, which will formally comment on the French proposal by month's end, is concerned partly because the French ownership requirements may violate internal market rules. "I do not say this is the best system. It is the least bad in trying to find a balance between national-security interests, economic interests and the protection of personal privacy," said Gen. Jean-Louis Desvegnes, chief of France's Central Service for the Security of Information Systems, a civilian agency that reports directly to the French prime minister's office. He indicated that France might be flexible on the ownership requirements. -----

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everybody wants a piece of Microsoft's monopoly
by Zooko Journeyman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If you thought Microsoft and Bill Gates were bad for the evolution of our precious technology, you'll _love_ the new "Guvsoft", lead by everyone's favorite businesswoman Janet Reno. The race to see who can play "Little Mister Gates" best and earn a cut of the action is accelerating. Pundits are already taking bets on Scott "Now Selling Licenses For 100% Pure Anything-Non-Microsoft" McNealy, Steve "Competition Is Great As Long It Doesn't Actually Affect Us" Jobs, and Janet "I've Already Demonstrated My Grasp Of Tactics And Tact" Reno. I mean, _sure_ Microsoft is an oppressive monopoly, but then what the hell is the USG? Zooko

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Re: EC refutes GAK
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[I originally posted this to the c2.net crypto list but apparently it never appeared, I've reposted it here in case anyone finds it useful] >The report also notes a new (to me, anyway) method of bypassing GAK while >maintaining full compliance with the law: > >"Users could encrypt a relatively large number of session keys in a way that >the previous key encrypts the next one, always using one or several official >escrow/recovery systems. Only the last key would be used to encrypt the >message. There's another way to foil GAK which I don't think has been mentioned before, using what is often referred to as "malicious obedience" in the military (or "you asked for it, you got it" elsewhere): Since I don't trust any cryptosystem based on mathematical principles, I encrypt all my communications using a one-time pad communicated on CDROM (700+MB if you push it). To limit the exposure of each pad, I change it once a month at a cost of ~$1 per CDR blank. If I communicate with around 100 people that's 100 x 12 x 700+MB or (rounding things up a bit) a terabyte of keying material a year. Since they use their own pads to communicate back to me, anyone wanting to intercept a years worth of traffic to/from me would need to archive 100 terabytes of keying material (I'd make sure I spread out the bits of pad I used so they couldn't just keep the useful bits and discard the rest). In any case since this will only be used for court-authorised intercepts (just keep repeating that until you believe it), everything would have to be archived without any changes so it could be used as evidence. At a cost of $100/month in CDR's this should comply with any GAK law (instant access to keys, etc), but will also do a reasonable job of overwhelming any centralised repository charged with storing the data. Of course since I don't trust the government any more than I trust those nasty cryptosystems based on mathematical principles, I'd use triple DES underneath the OTP just to be sure. Peter.

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everybody wants a piece of Microsoft's monopoly
by Brandon Crosby 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > If you thought Microsoft and Bill Gates were bad for the > evolution of our precious technology, you'll _love_ the > new "Guvsoft", lead by everyone's favorite businesswoman > Janet Reno. > > > The race to see who can play "Little Mister Gates" best > and earn a cut of the action is accelerating. Pundits > are already taking bets on Scott "Now Selling Licenses > For 100% Pure Anything-Non-Microsoft" McNealy, Steve > "Competition Is Great As Long It Doesn't Actually Affect Us" > Jobs, and Janet "I've Already Demonstrated My Grasp Of Tactics > And Tact" Reno. > > > > I mean, _sure_ Microsoft is an oppressive monopoly, but then > what the hell is the USG? > > The Dept of Justice pulled an Antitrust on Microsoft (sourced, the morning news)... $1 mil/day fine. Based on Internet Explorer. -Brandon Crosby

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by adri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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