December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Return of the Living Zundel, from The Netly News
by Steve Thompson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In local.lists.cypherpunks-moderated you write: >http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,1561,00.html >The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com/) > "A lot of people think this case is about censoring the Net," > said Bernie Farber, national director of community relations for the > Canadian Jewish Congress. "It isn't. It's about a Canadian violating > Canadian law. In Canada and in every other Western democracy but the > U.S., there are limits to free speech and one of those points is > vilification. I should feel I have as much right to get on the Net and > not feel demeaned because I'm a part of a particular group." I took a short 'course' on hate-crimes in downtown Toronto where this goof was the speaker. In very short order, I had decided that his agenda was merely to be in some small position of authority. He's a pro-censorship freak who wants to protect the chiiillldreeeen from views he doesn't like. It was quite amusing to pin him down a little -- he squirmed and stated that he _did_ want the government to protect him from things he didn't want to hear; in a rather shrill tone. It made me laugh in retrospect but at the time I was, I confess, shocked -- having encountered such idiocy only in print or on USENET. I wish that I had been better at articulating my thoughts during some of the discussions during the 'course'. It was difficult to portray the idea that well-supported arguements are the only _fair_ means to debunk someone else's ideas with which you disagree. I suppose that I should not have been suprised that the other participants in the course were sympathetic to Bernie's right-wing leanings, but there was a woman who owned or ran a feminist bookstore who admitted that many books ordered by her store had been held (or outright banned(?) by Canada Customs based on content; and yet, she was more-or-less in agreement with this proto-tyrant with respect to the issue of supressing the ideas of white supremists. It boggles the mind. -- Steve Thompson Misanthrope System Admin O.B. Spam: bogus(a)myofb.org --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lately every time you turn around somebody's saying: "The eighties are coming!" Like at the stroke of midnite on New Year's Eve it's all gonna be _different_! And when you tell 'em, "Come on, you know everything's just gonna keep on slowly sinking," they get downright _mad_! -- Lester Bangs, December 1979

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Sloppy Chips from Intel
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The possiblities are truly mind-boggling. Perhaps exploits like tapping >Aldrich Ames' PC and crashing Saddam Husseins' PCs en masse were not done >by black bag jobs and viri, but by the activation of "National Security" >backdoors present in all complex modern microprocessors. Of course a conspiracy theorist might guess that this "new bug" is really a result of somebody hitting some "national security opcode" and we just happened to hit one of the more benign "bugs". I think you alluded to this.

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Rape as Performance Art
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I can sympathize with the demonstrators that the Humboldt Sheriff's Department sprayed with pepper spray during their sit-in/protest. The police have done the same thing to me during the closing scenes of my performance art, as I climb out of the performance victim's window and try to make a run for it. I have found that judges are seldom impressed with a plea of, "Everyone wants to be a critic!" Art Lover (aka 'SouthSide Slasher') "It's not art until *I* have slashed it with a razor."

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Re: Return of the Living Zundel, from The Netly News
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Steve Thompson wrote: > In local.lists.cypherpunks-moderated you write: > >http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,1561,00.html > >The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com/) > > "A lot of people think this case is about censoring the Net," > > said Bernie Farber, national director of community relations for the > > Canadian Jewish Congress. "It isn't. It's about a Canadian violating > > Canadian law. In Canada and in every other Western democracy but the > > U.S., there are limits to free speech and one of those points is > > vilification. > I took a short 'course' on hate-crimes in downtown Toronto where this goof was > the speaker. In very short order, I had decided that his agenda was merely to > be in some small position of authority. He's a pro-censorship freak who wants > to protect the chiiillldreeeen from views he doesn't like. It was quite > amusing to pin him down a little -- he squirmed and stated that he _did_ want > the government to protect him from things he didn't want to hear; in a rather > shrill tone. It made me laugh in retrospect but at the time I was, I confess, > shocked -- having encountered such idiocy only in print or on USENET. After the government has finished arming park rangers, as well as all federal daycare workers and filing clerks, I suppose they will begin giving surplus military weapons to USENET censors, and the like, and deputizing them so that they can legally enforce their own narrow views. > It boggles the mind. Hey! Watch your language, pal. You can't say 'boggles' on a family list! BogglesMonger

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Re: Some IDIOT called CRYPTO CZAR INTERNATIONAL
by VME Encryption 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please forward to this coward that have no balls to put his real email address on his emails (I using you guys as he put CC to you guys in his letter, but by no means does this reffer to you). Dear CRYPTO CZAR INTERNATIONAL Idiot, usually we ignore people at your level, but we'll try our best for you, as it might be just temorary insanity. 1) The million dollars challenge have ended at May 15,1997. The current challenge have NO monetary prize. 2) VME flowchart, algorithms and the VME application itself is already in the hands of the large 250 sotware corporations for evaluation. If any of them will prove otherwise, then you might be able to jump and make an idiot of yourself as you did now. 3) We beleive they might like what they saw, as we currently have them lined up to license the technology. 4) Try to keep your pathetic self away from the court room, as next time around you will face legal steps for alleging "fraud". Maybe you really should try and develop some future encryption algorithm instead of mumbling with envy showing your stupidity and ignorance, But on the other hand you're probably not capable of - you're too narrow minded and busy sticking your long nose where it does not belong. Do us and you a favour, keep yourself in your pathetic hole and shut your mouth up. Thanks and worst regards, (we won't bother putting our name on the same email with your name). At 11:06 PM 11/8/97 -0600, you wrote: >CCI: > CRYPTO CZAR INTERNATIONAL ANNOUNCES UNBREAKABLE CRYPTO CHALLENGE > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >Crypto Czar International would like to announce the development of the >fastest and most secure encryption product on the market today. >We plan to develop this product early next week, as our employee has >already finished the first two chapters of 'Applied Cryptography.' > >We are so confident of our future product that we are challenging >MagNuts, Micro$oft, Nut$crape and everyone else to break it. We are >willing to pay out a $10,000,0000 prize to anyone willing to give us a >$1,000 good-faith deposit, which will be returned upon completion of our >open-ended Crypto Challenge. > >Please send ten copies of this to your friends and to your business >associates. > > The address to send the good-faith deposit to: > Crypto Czar International > c/o Electronic Fraud Foundation > Box 281, > Bienfait, Saskatchewan > CANADA S0C 0M0 > >

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Re: Some IDIOT called CRYPTO CZAR INTERNATIONAL
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

VME Encryption wrote: > Please forward to this coward that have no balls to put his real email > address on his emails (I using you guys as he put CC to you guys in his > letter, but by no means does this reffer to you). Obviously, no one has informed the night janitor at VME that regular list subscribers generally just put Toto's email address in replies to particularly cowardly and/or stupid anonymous posts, since we then have a 90% chance of having sent it to the right person. As an act of mercy toward Toto, I will personally correct the spelling and grammar in the night-janitor's post and forward it to the madman at 'Che(z) Sympatico.' > Dear CRYPTO CZAR INTERNATIONAL Idiot, > 1) The million dollars challenge have ended at May 15,1997. The current > challenge have NO monetary prize. ... > 4) Try to keep your pathetic self away from the court room, as next time > around you will face legal steps for alleging "fraud". According to a claim by TruthMonger, Dr. Vulis found the backdoor in VME's encryption program, and the test message contained a plea for donations from the Georgia Cracker remailer operators. I was originally skeptical about this claim, until sources at C2Nut confirmed it. Sincerely, Ura Fishpal, Flounder and Comptroller Electronic Fraud Foundation

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Re: 1st Ammendment Tossed in Paladin Case
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >But in many ways, this is good news. The war is coming faster than I thought. WSJ reports today on the increasing conservatism of the military and disputes about the pretense of civilian control, with some officers calling for responsible action to compensate for societal breakdown. It cites several examples of military members preparing for war at home, as mentioned here earlier by Attila and others, with two Marine writers claiming that the next Somolia will be here. This, coupled with reports on LEA inheritance of military equipment and lavish civilian funding to fight terrorism, portends more than Jim Bell (Tim May?) -type sniper takeouts. Free fire zones may be in the offing, or surgical wasting of underground bunkers and germmakers (troublemakers). Wrathful Mars sees no innocents, so preaches the terrorist freedom warfighters pursuing a dream of winner take all, so sorry constitutional fundies, we're the warmonger biz.

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17 Dec '03

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[URGENT] ZKP
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim C. Maypole, a product of anal birth, appeared with a coathanger through his head. (_) _____ (_) /O O\ Tim C. Maypole ! I ! ! \___/ ! \_____/

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