December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: NEWS - NRA Charles Heston speech
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

McVeigh is alot better than Heston (at lying-type propaganda. I couldn't even call McVeigh's "lying-type." It was filled with MUCH more fact than Heston's speech.) The glaring over-all problem I see with his speech, is his hypocracy when it comes to the 1st amendment (yea, I know he *claimed* to be a 1st amendments rights supporter, BUT his actions (the rest of the speech) counters that claim.) Here's why they want to remove our freedom of speech. It's because - dig this Cypherpunks - 'The pen is mightier than the sword.' If they take away our ability to speak, and they keep their silly guns, guess what. Then they have the more powerful weapon. And dig this - yes it IS that simple. Stan

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Netcenter News - Volume 7
by netcenter-news＠netscape.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by waekualo98＠msn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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twa 800, semiconductors & internet, polyforth & Java
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friday 6/5/98 9:11 AM J Orlin Grabbe Albuquerque Journal w 6/3/98 TWA 800 Explosion Not on High Seas NEW YORK - A judge said Tuesday that the TWA 800 explosion did not occur on the high seas, a ruling that could make victim eligible for additional money in their lawsuit. against the airline and the aircraft manufacturers. ... http://www.aci.net/kalliste/navy800.htm and other electronic articles on TWA 800 at http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Albuquerque Journal f 6/5/98 Motorola To Cut 15,000 Jobs No Word of Impact In Albuquerque The Associated Press CHICAGO - Motorola Inc., struggling to weather the Asian economic crisis, said Thursday it is eliminating 15,000 jobs over the coming 12 months. Profits plunged 45 percent to !180 million ... But in the same issue Chip Sales Expected to Rebound Semiconductor Group Predicts Double-Digit Growth in 1999 The Associated Press SAN JOSE, Calif. Asias weak economies, a slow-down in personal computer sales and an overabundance of memory chips will push own semiconductor sales nearly 2 percent this year, according to an industry group. But those troubles are expected to ease in the second half of 1998, boosting sales and returning the industry to double-digit growth next year and beyond, the Semiconductor Industry Association said. Thanks to the unprecedented growth of Internet usage, we now expect the industrys expansion to occur in 1999 as semiconductor growth rates return to their historical averages of 17 percent or more, said SIA president George Scalise. ... John Young Albuquerque Journal f 6/5/98 India, Pakistan Nuke Claims Exaggerated, Scientists Say By David S. Cloud Chicago Tribune WASHINGTON - American scientists monitoring remote sites where India and Pakistan detonated nucleardevices sharply question public claims by both nations about the size and number of weapons tested. Scientists examining seismic data on the tests, picked up at monitoring stations around the globe, say that both India and Pakistan have exaggerated the explosive power of the detonations and perhaps even the total number of devices tested. The Clinton administration has similar doubts about the claims by the South Asian rivals. Pakistani officials apparently disconnect a seismic monitor that would have given outsiders more precise data about their tests. And two nuclear devices that India claimed to have set off were not detected by a single known seismic monitor station anywhere in the world. ... The gap between the claims and the seismic data suggests that the test may not have gone as well as each side announced, said experts interviewed by the Chicago Tribune. The discrepancies in monitoring data prove ammunition for some critics of an international test-ban treaty. These critics argue that the lack of data for Indias announced second round of nuclear weapons tests calls into question whether clandestine nuclear test can be accurately monitored. ... Jim Durham, Sandias seismic CTBT project leader http://jya.com/da/whpda.htm, told me that the coupling [impendance match?] between the bomb and the surrounding ground had much to do with what a seismic station receives. Lastly, and what I think is the most important, Albuquerque Journal f 6/5/98 USS Yorktown Found Explorer Located Titanic Wreck By Randolph E. Schmidt The Associated Press WASHINGTON - Three miles under water, the USS Yorktowns four-barrel anti-aircraft gun still aims skyward 56 years after the aircraft carrier went to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, a victim of the Battle of Midway. Photos and video of the giant ship, sitting upright on the ocean floor, were unveiled Thursday by Robert Ballard, the undersea explorer who found the wrecks of the Titanic and the German battleship Bismarck. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/features/98/midway/ REASON is that Ballard uses PolyForth http://av.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=polyforth&z=2&hc=0&hs=0 in the submersible robots, Jeff Allsup of Woods Hole told me. Allsup downloaded ALL of the code and documentation from my Forth http://jya.com/f86/whpf86.htm book from Vesta in Colorado at 1,200 bps. Allsup told me this took several days. This is same software technology which is used for the US satellite program. http://groucho.gsfc.nasa.gov/forth/ Java http://www.mrl.nyu.edu/meyer/jvmref/ appears also to be a byte threaded code technology. Lets hope for settlement of the unfortunate matter so that we can all got on to other constructive projects. I would like to do some more with http://www-hto.usc.edu/software/seqaln/doc/html/gfsr.3.html and revise http://www.apcatalog.com/cgi-bin/AP?ISBN=0125475705&LOCATION=US&FORM=FORM2 for the 80C32 communicating over ieee 1284 ecp to a Windows PC. Later, bill

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Site Secrets
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Friday 6/5/98 3:49 PM John Young NOTHING from the court, DOE or EEOC today. Good. I loaded my boat in the back of my truck. Fishing tomorrow and Sunday at Navajo lake. Navajo lake is on the Colorado border. My primary goal is to finish the digital FX. But I need a mental health break. I got kick out of the moralist lecture to schneier(a)counterpane.com. http://www.jya.com/bud-avbsp.htm I can only imagine "Bud" <bud(a)checkmaster.com>s horror when he reads about Morales and my genocide, deficient crypto, and crooked judge lawsuit. But, of course, we are merely trying to promote settlement of this UNFORTUNATE matter before something POSSIBLY serious happens. Settlement progress is reported to our friends at http://www.wpiran.org/ and others in hope it is passed along to the interested. Peaceful MONETARY settlement of this UNFORTUNATE matter is clearly in everyone's best interest. Thoroughly enjoyed Site Secrets. http://www.jya.com/crypto.htm#site The Real World again. Have a good weekend all. bill

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Sixty Minutes vs Pauline Hanson
by Global Web Builders 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear One Nation Supporter in NSW, PLEASE READ THIS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT MESSAGE and CIRCULATE WIDELY TO ALL YOU CAN. In the lead up to the Queensland State and Federal Elections there has been growing hysteria in the media, major political parties and by minority groups that "support for Pauline Hanson's One Nation is somehow bad for Australia". It should be of no surprise that One Nation has one goal in mind and that is to bring equity in treatment back to ALL Australians irrespective of colour, race, or creed. If you read the first sentence again you will see who is going to 'lose' when divisive policies are removed by One Nation from the Australian equation. However, the most divisive force in Australia today is the mainstream media, carefully controlled by men of enormous wealth who now seek the ultimate prize, 'power over the politicians who run Australia'. Many believe that they have already achieved this goal. Many believe that the support for Pauline Hanson's One Nation is a direct result of 'populist' Australians (that's you and me) seeing through the deals being done between the major political parties and the media barons. Today Australians face a real fight to retain their democratic rights in the face of the media moguls. This is the 'real' media-hidden war that is being raged right now with Pauline Hanson being the focus, the enemy. The coming Queensland state and Federal elections are not over 'race' as the media would have you believe, they are over our freedom of speech and democracy which has already being largely destroyed through the concentration of our media. Last Tuesday Pauline Hanson raised the issue of 'The Draft Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples' in Parliament. What followed was the most disgraceful vilification by Howard, Beazley, supported by the media, of Pauline Hanson, the messenger, while the message - the potential impact of this treaty on all Australians - was totally ignored. This vilification was epitomised by the live interview with Ray Martin on Channel 9's 'A Current Affair' during which he changed the 'rules of engagement' previously agreed to. The interview was supposed to be about Pauline's speech in parliament and the ramifications of the UN draft agreement. A range of links to documents related to Pauline Hanson's speech can be seen at: http://www.gwb.com.au/un.html Channel 9 have used these tactics before to secure an interview under blatantly dishonest terms. Sixty Minutes approached Pauline Hanson to do a 'prime time' broadcast on 'a new political party in the making'... in 1997. The original letter to David Ettridge confirming the 'rules of engagement' with Pauline Hanson can be seen at this link: http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/onenation/letter.gif In both Channel 9 interviews Pauline Hanson has appeared stunned, was ridiculed by those interviewing her and thereafter denigrated by many of her opponents. Quite simply she has been ambushed with unrelated questioning by a less than ethical media doing the bidding of powers higher up. This Sunday Channel 9's 'Sixty Minutes' has intimated that it will be doing an 'expose' on Pauline Hanson's One Nation links to 'American influences'. As of late yesterday they had refused to supply the source of their information so that One Nation could respond. It will be an interesting time for 'Sixty Minutes' to carry such a damaging, unsubstantiated programme, less than a week before the Queensland state election. The background to the programme to be run tomorrow can be seen at: http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/news/17029.asp Here is a quote from that page: 'But as 60 Minutes has discovered, Pauline Hanson's one nation has little to do with our nation. Much of her ideology is borrowed from loony extremists in the United States, right down to her claim this week that the UN was undermining Australia's sovereignty. Jeff McMullen reports that this fear of a UN-led global world order is the central theme in the thinking of militia groups at war with the US Government. And the militia leaders admit they know and admire Pauline Hanson and have advised her supporters.' With this in mind I would ask you to take this personal assurance from me. I have been privileged to get to know Pauline and understand the fire that burns within her for Australia and her children, our future. She is not influenced by anybody from overseas, her gun laws actually tighten gun control through "an instant record check to ensure those persons ineligible to own a firearm can be quickly identified; we shall establish a register of persons prohibited from firearm ownership. Prohibited persons: ie those convicted of a violent offence." See: http://www.gwb.com.au/onenation/press/guns.html Pauline's aims are to work for the return of Australia to Australians - away from the negative, direct influence of overseas-based multinationals; to introduce Citizen Based Referendums; to allow you to have a real say in your future (One Nation's policies can be seen at: http://www.gwb.com.au/onenation/policy.html) and to dismantle the power blocks controlled by the media barons. It is this last goal which is behind the vilification of Pauline Hanson by the media and what she stands for, not the opinions expressed by those who do their master's bidding. You may like to tell 'Sixty Minutes' what you think of their programme, if so use this link: http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/60m/content/email.asp PLEASE BROADCAST THIS EMAIL WIDELY A personal message from Scott Balson, Pauline Hanson's One Nation web master One Nation home page: http://www.gwb.com.au/onenation

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Re: IP: Uncle Sam is Hooked on Forfeiture (fwd)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Somebody, probably Vlad, forwarded this via Swiss Remailer. I normally try not to reply to Ignition-Points forwards here, but this one's relevant. "Access devices" often includes things like computer passwords as well as smartcards for building entry. So "Crack a password, lose your computer" would apply as well as "Crack 15+ passwords, get busted". I don't know if that was Senator Sleazy's intent with the bill, but it's an obvious application if not. Did the bill pass? >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 16:21:31 -0400 >From: Patricia Neill <pnpj(a)db1.cc.rochester.edu> >To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com >Subject: IP: Uncle Sam is Hooked on Forfeiture > > 4.Counterfeit Access Devices > S.1148 > SPONSOR: Sen D'Amato (introduced 09/04/97) > TITLE(S): > OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED: > A bill to amend title 49, United States Code, to require the >forfeiture of counterfeit access devices and device-making equipment. > "Amends Federal transportation law to declare counterfeit >access devices and device-making equipment contraband subject to mandatory >seizure and forfeiture." > > Well, what are we talking about here? Duplicate key for the apartment? >What can it be extended to tomorrow, is the real question. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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Nobody on Video ;-)
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It appears the Cypherpunks have infiltrated the FBI and have installed a survailence camera on one of the agents investigating the Cypherpunks. ;-) Here's one of them FBI agents tryin' to track you guys down ;-) , check this out - http://www.cnbc.com/moreinfo/badday.mpeg 4.5 meg (but worth every byte) Stan 'Amazing! How can you tell the dancer from the dance' (Brave Combo - The Jeffrey) Visit 'What's A Meta U (and What's It 2U) http://members.aol.com/WhtsAMetaU/ (Cypherpunks, the Brave Combo's latest studio release ('Group Dance Epidemic - Fun .... and Functional!' - Rounder Records) is themed on my war with the Bucketheads that led me to this list. The cover picture depicts the Bucketheads (a group of people pretending to be having a good time.) It was the leader of the Bucketheads that subscribed me to this list (I'm VERY sure). The song, 'The Jeffrey', in particular, is all about the 'flame' (as 'they' call it) war, and based much on some of my posts. The list is now un- moderated, and in the control of free persons. Check out that cd.)

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RE: URGENT BUY RECOMMENDATION
by vac22737889＠msn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Statement on Sixty Minutes by Pauline Hanson
by Global Web Builders 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 20:00:04 +1000 NEWS RELEASE 6/6/98 60 minutes' Fairytales "This Sunday, 60 Minutes is airing a segment devoted to connecting Pauline Hanson with individuals or groups in the United States. While we don't know who these people are, what is certain is that Pauline Hanson is not in contact politically or organisationally with anyone in the United States - the 60 Minutes story is a fairytale. After hearing of an advertisement for this Sunday's 60 minutes, David Oldfied contacted the programme to check its content. Despite making it clear there was absolutely no communication between Pauline Hanson, her advisers, or the organisation's heads and anyone in the United States, 60 minutes refused to even consider they had manufactured the story. They also refused to allow One Nation an opportunity to rebut their fairytale until the programme the following week. This is a nefariously timed lie. This is deceptive and dishonest journalism at its worst and all credible journalists, whatever their personal feelings, should be appalled at 60 minutes' approach. Regardless of what evidence 60 Minutes produce or what they may state, the whole story is a fairytale fabricated without the slightest basis of truth. There is no connection or communication between the United States and Pauline Hanson or One Nation. While we have no knowledge of such activities, it is possible some individual member may be in contact with people overseas but this, if it has happened, is a personal affair and unrelated to us as an organisation. It should also be understood that One Nation letterhead and other documents have been forged on a number of occasions. Further to this, people have falsely claimed to be party officials and candidates as well as one incident where a person in Western Australia claimed to be a close personal adviser to Pauline when in fact she had never even met him. We are not sure what 60 minutes will put to air, but having spoken to them twice, it is clear they will peddle the lie of links that simply do not exist. Perhaps they have cleverly manufactured a fairytale with the help of people either willing to perjure themselves or who are just not aware they are not really in contact with Pauline or One Nation, but whatever the case, their story is fiction in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree. 60 minute's refusal of an opportunity for us to face their fairytale on their programme this Sunday night, in itself, proves their intention to simply maliciously attack Pauline and One Nation by any means regardless of the total lack of truth. 60 minutes has no credibility and should be treated accordingly. Even their Internet story announcing their programme is filled with lies when factual evidence is clearly available by speaking to us, something they chose not to do because the truth would ruin their dishonest and despicable claims." "Pauline Hanson and One Nation is, and will always be, 100% Australian owned and 100% Australian influenced." Statement issued by request of Pauline Hanson MP.

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