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TSCM-L Technical Security List
by James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

TSCM-L Technical Security List Monday, June 8, 1998 Volume 1998 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Postings: TSCM-L(a)tscm.com Unsubscribe: unsubTSCM-L(a)tscm.com Subscribe: subTSCM-L(a)tscm.com Admin: jmatk(a)tscm.com This material will only be sent to you upon your direct request, either by your email request, or by signing up via our web page. TSCM-L is published by Granite Island Group, and is written by James M. Atkinson. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A telephone eavesdropping system was recently encountered which is being sold by a company in Pomezia, Italy. The system is for use on AT&T System 25, 75, and 85 PBX systems (other versions are available for 1030, 3070, Merlin, and Partner systems). The first element of the system consists of a station card which has been built from scratch and appears almost identical to the original cards built by AT&T. There are no modifications on the card, and all components appear legitimate The only visual difference between the cards is several additional integrated circuits, and discrete components. Additionally, on the silkscreen side of the card is a small logo consisting of an upper case letter E followed by a 7xx type of number (such as E-728). The logo will appear diagonally across the card from the serial number. Each station card will support 8 digital phones, and one outgoing circuit. The second element of the system is the printed circuit board that goes into the actual telephone. Much like the station card the printed circuit board appears original but closer inspection will reveal a small number of extra components and PCB traces which go to the four pair position. Suspect telephones will present an anomaly on the power and/or 4th pair. The signal is a digital data signal (usually 160 Kbps). Vector signal analysis will indicate a QAM/BPQSK cats-eye (a digital audio signal via a seven stage parasitic polynomial 1+x6+x7 algorithm). Waveform is a serial data stream, bipolar signal at roughly 700mV (680-715 mV depending on instrument). Power drain is fairly high (average of 136% over normal), but station card will not indicate an over-current condition or station error. Serial data stream is constant, and only affected by application of power. Signal stops if power is removed for more than 15 milliseconds. Disconnection of handset does not effect signal. Signal is present in both on-hook and off-hook conditions. The third element of the system is a small modification to the PBX back plane which consists of two small wires which are tacked into place between the station card and the line card. This bridging circuit allows a T-Carrier signal to pass from the station card to an unused cable pair for an outgoing signal path (usually the 25th pair). This modification will appear to be a legitimate factory modification to the backplane. The fourth element of the system is the transmission path back to the listening post (which will appear to be a T-1 signal, but will only use one cable pair). A RF transmitter could be used, however; such an emission would increase the possibility of the system being detected if used inside or near the target facility. A RF transmitter could be used once the signal is well outside the facility. The transmission path will normally consist of a T-Carrier signal that can be traced to a facility demarcation point and then to an external cable pair. The signal will typically terminate at (or just prior to) an off-site SLC box. At this point the T-Carrier signal will be bridged back to a listening post either by hardwiring or an RF transmitter (though the use of a bridging capacitor to isolate the DC components of the circuit). Faked power outages in the PBX or server room will typically be used to cover the installation activities. The installation consists of swapping the station card, and then installing the jumper wires on the back plane. While the power is still off the special printed circuit boards are installed into the target phones. Optionally, the telephone may simply be swapped with an instrument that has been modified in advance. Power is then restored with the event being logged as a short power outage (usually during bad weather or construction work). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ French Magistrate Targets Official Wiretapper PARIS, May 28 (Reuters) - A man who headed France's official wiretap unit has been placed under investigation in connection with illegal eavesdropping carried out on orders of the late President Francois Mitterrand's office, judicial sources said on Thursday. Army Brigadier General Pierre Charroy, 63, was ordered placed under investigation for complicity in invasion of privacy in his capacity as head of the discreetly named Interministerial Control Group (GIC) under Mitterrand, the sources said. The GIC is officially entrusted with carrying out wiretaps on the orders of magistrates in cases of espionage or serious crimes. The body is so shrouded with secrecy that it is not known if Charroy still heads it. Former Mitterrand aides acknowledged last year that the late president, who ruled from 1981-1995, had ordered security officers attached to his office to carry out illegal wiretaps on the telephone lines of lawyers, journalists, politicians and at least one movie actress. The justice sources said magistrate Jean-Paul Vallat suspected Charroy of having aided the presidential wiretappers who acted without the permission of magistrates, making their actions illegal. Prime Minister Lionel Jospin pledged in last year's general election campaign to end an era of "monarchical secrecy" if he came to power and to lift the lid on cases like possible illegal wiretapping under Mitterrand, with whom Jospin was on poor terms. Jospin has since been accused of dragging his feet on the promise since he became prime minister and judge Vallat has written to ask for his help in his probes. Some 15 former Mitterrand aides are under investigation and could face possible trial in the case. Mitterrand died in 1996, seven months after leaving office. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The following pages which contain TSCM equipment reviews have been updated and are now available: http://www.tscm.com/tmdespect.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdeantenna.html http://www.tscm.com/fluke785.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdenljd.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdedemod.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdeacous.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdeanc.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdeaux.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdecraft.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdephot.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdephys.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdescope.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdesets.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdetdr.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdevehcl.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdevideo.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdevom.html http://www.tscm.com/tmdevsa.html http://www.tscm.com/intercept1.html http://www.tscm.com/reioscor.html http://www.tscm.com/spectan.html http://www.tscm.com/tmde.html http://www.tscm.com/training.html http://www.tscm.com/trainingciv.html http://www.tscm.com/traininggov.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Granite Island Group Mission and Purpose Statement Granite Island Group provides expert technical, analytical and research capability for the detection, nullification, and isolation of eavesdropping devices, technical surveillance penetrations, technical surveillance hazards, and physical security weaknesses. Detection: Measures taken to detect technical surveillance devices, technical security hazards, and physical security weaknesses that would permit the technical or physical penetration of a facility. Nullification: The process of neutralizing or negating technical devices employed by making the placement of such devices more difficult. This includes ensuring that a room is protected with adequate physical construction and security measures thus making the placement or use of illegal listening devices ineffective. Isolation: A method to deter, or make extremely difficult, the introduction of eavesdropping devices by establishing special security areas, for the conduct of classified or sensitive activities. Granite Island Group also provides: Vulnerability Analysis to provide senior management with guidelines for the enhancement of security and reduction of the vulnerability of sensitive areas to the technical surveillance threat. Design, Manufacture, and Sale of TSCM, signals intelligence, cryptographic, and related secure communications systems and devices. Research and Development of technical systems, devices, and tradecraft utilized by the intelligence community. Development of Specialized Computer Software and Firmware. Design and Installation of high performance computer networks and communications systems. Disaster Preparedness Planning Intelligence Analysis and activities to determine the existence and capability of surveillance equipment being used against the United States Government, United States corporations, establishments, or persons. Special emphasis is given to detecting and countering espionage and other threats and activities directed by foreign intelligence services. Specialized Training for those in sensitive positions concerning the threat of technical surveillance and the part they can play in the TSCM program. This includes advanced training and seminars for TSCM teams and technical security personnel. Closed Enrollment Training regarding technical security and protective related issues. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Copyright ©1998 Granite Island Group. All Rights Reserved. ======================================================================= Everybody's into computers... Who's into yours? ======================================================================= James M. Atkinson Phone: (978) 546-3803 Granite Island Group - TSCM.COM 127 Eastern Avenue #291 http://www.tscm.com/ Gloucester, MA 01931 jmatk(a)tscm.com ======================================================================= Do not try the patience of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. =======================================================================

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Amway and Brave Combo Evidence Update
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On that page I point to with the X-tian fish discussion, I linked the "moderator nazi" with the right-wing because of his use of this symbol "&" to replace the "And" in "Andy". I have come to learn, it's got 2 meanings. It looks like the symbol for the "Know-nothing" movement is - "K & N". Of course, to know the significance of that, you have to know something about the "Know-nothing" movement. I think anyone that's ever observed many of the lists around, will see some remarkable similarities. Check this out - ==== Know-nothing (1827) 1 a : IGNORAMUS b: AGNOSTIC 2 cap K & N : a member of a 19th century secret American political organization hostile to the political influence of recent immigrants and Roman Catholics Know-nothingism (1854) 1 cap K & N : the principles and policies of the Know- Nothings 2 : the condition of knowing nothing or desiring to know nothing or the conviction that nothing can be known with certainty esp. in religion or morality 3 often cap K & N : a mid-twentieth century political attitude characterized by anti=intellectualism, exaggerated patriotism, and fear of foreign subversive influences Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 10th edition ==== 'Know-Nothing' Movement U.S. political movement in the mid-19th cent. The increased immigration of the 1840s had resulted in concentrations of Roman Catholic immigrants in the Eastern cities. The Democrats welcomed them, but local nativist societies were formed to combat "foreign" influences and uphold the "American" view. The American Republican party, formed (1843) in New York, spread to neighboring states as the Native American party and became a national party in 1845. Many secret orders sprang up, and when outsiders made inquiries of supposed members, they were met with a statement that the person knew nothing; hence members were called Know-Nothings. The Know-Nothings sought to elect only native Americans to office and to require 25 years of residence for citizenship. Allied with a faction of the WHIG PARTY, they almost captured New York in the 1854 election and swept the polls in Massachusetts and Delaware. In 1855 they adopted the name American party and dropped much of their secrecy. The issue of slavery, however, split the party, and many antislavery members joined the new REPUBLICAN PARTY. Millard FILLMORE, the American party's presidential candidate in 1856, won only Maryland, and the party's national strength was broken. The Concise Columbia Encyclopedia is licensed from Columbia University Press. Copyright © 1995 by Columbia University Press. All rights reserved. ==== Cypherpunks, these are the bastards that have control of congress. If you are serious about freedom, you must go out and register to vote, and you must vote the real punks (Christian Coalition types (the CC is simply a front for the Know-nothing movement, and I'll bet you now believe me. ;-) )) out of power. They are the bastards that are controlling speech (and thought, IMHO) on that Camelogue list (the Humpheads). AND they were doing the same thing on that Brave Combo list (The Bucketheads gang that I seem to have incapacitated. Hey, can I say that I saved the Brave Combo? ;-) ) And the evidence is on Brave Combo cds. Not only the one that I'm on, but now that I've gone in looking at it from this angle, I see they've been documenting the invasion of the Bucketheads for 10 years. It starts with Humansville with the cover showing a "the" 'beast', IMHO raising it's ugly head out of the water. Also on that one, is a song called "Move" which starts with a message that was left on Jeffrey Barnes answering machine one night, that threatened him to turn down his music. There was no music being played in his house that night. They were trying to tell him to censor the Brave Combo. I haven't had a chance to search that album for other stuff yet. Those were the obvious things. The theme continues for the next 4 Brave Combo (only (they were doing collabarations also during this period)) studio releases. Since yous guys are Cypherpunks, I'm not gonna give you that many more clues (for right now, there are some songs patterned after certain specific Bucketheads that you probably won't get the connection, but if you think of various folk you've met on the net, I'll bet you find some remarkable similarities in the lyrics/titling/liner notes) So, it continues on to the next ones (and in this order) - Night On Earth No No No-Cha Cha Cha Polkas For A Gloomy World (BTW: Grammy nominated, lost (probably due to the Know-nothings. Study this one's liner notes VERY carefully (and Mystery Spot Polka lyrics for sure)) And up to the one I'm on - 'Group Dance Epidemic - Fun ...... and Functional!' Those are all excellent cds, but if you don't want to spend the money, all of the lyrics are on the Discography page (http://www.brave.com/bo/discography/) at the official website (which the Bucketheads still seem to have some control of. How do I know? Guess which lyrics they DON'T have there. The Jeffrey. (and other reasons) I forced them to put the Mystery Spot Polka's lyrics up there when I attempted to discuss it on the list (and I was censored.) They had to try to show that it wasn't being censored.) So, I'll post my interpretation of The Jeffrey because of that - ===== The Jeffrey (Barnes, Cripps, Finch, Hernandez - Wise Monkey Music) (Jeffrey (spoken)) I am the master of my own universe And I dance just as good as I want to ====== I am a genius because I want to be ==== I have created a dance in my own image Look at me! ====== I have written a song and dance just like me, I expect all BRAVE Combo fans to look for it's meaning! I'm not happy! (see insert photo of the Part 1 (The) Jeffrey) ==== (backup) One, two, three, four ====== I want you to analyze my song and dance line-by-line. ==== Nothing ((backup) Nada) ====== I'm waiting. I've been waiting. ==== Amazing! ====== Wow! Someone came along and analyzed my song, and (pretty much) nailed it! ==== How can you tell the dancer from the dance. ====== That is what is revealed by careful analysis of my song - how YOU can know about certain-type of people that "lurk (dictionary definition)" the Brave Combo list ==== (girl) moans - Oh, Oh, Oh Oh Jeff, your dance is devine ==== I like your song, Jeff (SERIOUSLY! :-) (I really mean this, Combo fans! ;-) )) ====== Teach me to dance Jeffrey ==== I want to learn how to tell the difference between reality and perception of reality ====== Move my body with your hands ==== Dazzle me with how simple it all is ====== How should I move my hips? ==== How can I learn how to do that? ====== (Jeffrey) Your hips will take care of themselves. ==== Jeffrey's answer - Join FreeGroup (http://members.aol.com/whtsametau/FreeGroup.html) and/or Visit What's A Meta U (http://members.aol.com/WhtsAMetaU/) ====== (backup (sung)) Your hips will take care of themselves ==== Hippies will take care of themselves ====== (Jeffrey) 'Hip'ssssssss ==== Hippies ====== Creator ==== Yes, he's the creator of his song and dance. The song describes a dance created by man, the "Know-nothing" movement (otherwise known around here as the "Chicken" Coalition). The dance is, well, I've already given you a hint as to where that is, Cypherpunks! ====== Nowwwww. Resume the active things! ==== Get off of your butts and stop being politically apathetic. NOW! Take these guys out of power (they're preventing you from expressing yourself, and they're trying with all their might to prevent Jeffrey (Carl, etc.) from expressing himself) ====== (backup (sung)) Hips will take care of themselves Hips ==== Hippies ====== I am the master of my own universe And I dance just as good as I want to ==== I am a (UNDISPUTED) genius, because I used my own free will to decide to play the 'United Snakes ... ' ;-) in the BRAVE Combo (he plays 2 saxaphones at the same time. In harmony) ====== I have created a dance in my own image ==== My song and dance is just like me. ====== LOOK AT ME! ==== He's Mad! Only one Combo fan knowing the true meaning of his song and dance is NOT good enough for a genius! Analyze his song and dance. He's waiting. A review of recent history reveals that Brave Combo fans that truly 'get' their music are HIGHLY rewarded. (liner notes) The band once discovered Jeffrey Barnes doing this dance all by himself in a corner. He denies all responsibility, as his conscious mind was elsewhere at the time. Part I All dancers get on dance floor (with great enthusiasm) 1. Do nothing. 2. Stand with your arms folded across your chest. 3. Shift your weight from one leg to another 4. Exhibit all symptoms of extreme boredom. When this becomes unbearable, move on to Part II. ====== Part I represents 'closed-mindedness'/censorship/Bucketheads ==== Part II 1. Put fist out with thumbs up. 2. Attach your thumbs to turntables in your mind. 3. Rotate your thumbs clockwise. ====== Check out the right ==== 4. Rotate your thumbs counter-clockwise. ====== Check out the left ==== 5. Your hips will want to wiggle, let them. ====== But Hippies will want to investigate things other than just left and right, you better let them. :-) ==== When this becomes unbearable, return to Part I. ====== Part II represents "open-mindedness"/freedom/Stan ==== Repeat Part I and Part II until you wish to stop. ====== So you Bucketheads can do your 'dance' for as long as you want, but while you're doing that, us Hippies will take care of ourselves. Stan ============ Various lines in there refer to various posts that I posted during that so- called "flame" war. If anyone wants to see a few of those, let me know. "I want you to know", that compared to breaking the Buckethead gang, getting on that cd meant very little to me, except, that it was designed as a tool for me to use against the Know-nothings. I think I'll go post that over on the Brave Combo list. 'Tis a shame that my only audience, is the Bucketheads (and the Camelogue moderator nazi is lurking (dictionary definition) the list.). The Bucketheads ran everyone who wouldn't "drink" with them off. Guess what, Cypherpunks. I'm betting that 95% of the music (probably other forums as well (Republicans For All Americans is one I know about for sure)) lists (and websites) are in control of the "Know-nothings." We have got to get those kooks out of power, or it will be too late. It's VERY possible that your favorite musicians are trying to send secret messages out to thier fans through their music/lyrics and cover art, personal notes, etc., on this very same subject matter. Look for these clues to find out if your favorite bands lists/websites have the same "pesky" problem. They can't tell you outright because they got Know-nothing goons watching 'em. "That's all we know." Serious shit, Sherlock(s)! Stan

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Spiking keyboards, digital cash, appeals, shift registers
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monday 6/8/98 7:53 AM John Young I am reading http://jya.com/sitesec.htm a bit more carefully. You have NEVER WRITTEN SO MUCH. Fishing was great. I used a $10 THE INSTANT CALLING CARD [TM] VOCALL COMMUNICATIONS CORP The World's Most advanced prepaid Calling Card which allows access with a pin of 718-2455-7091-xxx [my SECRET] in ENGLISH, SPANISH, ARABIC, URDU, KOREAN, JAPANESE, GERMAN, FRENCH, ITALIAN to call you TWICE on Saturday. At only $.14/min. I left one message about Xandi and spiking computer keyboards. Xandi MADE low-power transmitters, http://www.gernsback.com/HyperNews/get/forums/resource/226.html like the kind I MIGHT use IF I were going to spike a keyboard [most which use an 8051 http://www.apcatalog.com/cgi-bin/AP?ISBN=0125475705&LOCATION=US&FORM=FORM2] so that the keystrokes would be broadcast. This, of course, defeats crypto attempts to cipher keystrokes. But I DO NOT DO, or have to do, ILLEGAL THINGS for the FBI or any other government agency. I, as a DOE contractor employee, was protected under 10 CFR 708. http://av.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=10+cfr+708&hc=0&hs=0 But 10 CFR 708 does not appear to be working well in my case. Therefore, we had to try other remedies. VOCALL is getting real close to digital cash, one of Orlin Grabbe's interests. http://www.aci.net/kalliste/dcguide.htm I have to do mostly technical work on the digital FX this week but will try to get two notices of appeal to the Tenth circuit written. http://jya.com/whp043098.htm Morales and I, with all the publicity you and Orlin have given us, can go all the way to the Supreme Court with our genocide and crypto deficiency lawsuits. http://jya.com/whpfiles.htm Pro se, of course. Too bad NSA did not take my criticisms of its shift register work more constructively. http://jya.com/da/whpda.htm, click on Appendix S Perhaps NSA should have worked with some of us at Sandia to come-up with fixes to overcome deficiencies. This unpleasantness could have been avoided. Ive had ideas to improve shift register algorithm operation before. http://www-hto.usc.edu/software/seqaln/doc/html/gfsr.3.html Lets all hope for settlement of this UNFORTUNATE matter before it gets worse. Later bill

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Campaign Against Global War on Drugs
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The New York Times today has a two-page ad: "We believe the global war on drugs is now causing more harm than drug abuse itself," with a letter to UN Secretary General Annan signed by hundreds from around the world, across the political spectrum. Web site for list and invitation to sign: http://www.lindesmith.org/news/un.html Public Letter to Kofi Annan June 1, 1998 Mr. Kofi Annan Secretary General United Nations New York, New York United States Dear Secretary General, On the occasion of the United Nations General Assembly Special Session on Drugs in New York on June 8-10, 1998, we seek your leadership in stimulating a frank and honest evaluation of global drug control efforts. We are all deeply concerned about the threat that drugs pose to our children, our fellow citizens and our societies. There is no choice but to work together, both within our countries and across borders, to reduce the harms associated with drugs. The United Nations has a legitimate and important role to play in this regard -- but only if it is willing to ask and address tough questions about the success or failure of its efforts. We believe that the global war on drugs is now causing more harm than drug abuse itself. Every decade the United Nations adopts new international conventions, focused largely on criminalization and punishment, that restrict the ability of individual nations to devise effective solutions to local drug problems. Every year governments enact more punitive and costly drug control measures. Every day politicians endorse harsher new drug war strategies. What is the result? U.N. agencies estimate the annual revenue generated by the illegal drug industry at $400 billion, or the equivalent of roughly eight per cent of total international trade. This industry has empowered organized criminals, corrupted governments at all levels, eroded internal security, stimulated violence, and distorted both economic markets and moral values. These are the consequences not of drug use per se, but of decades of failed and futile drug war policies. In many parts of the world, drug war politics impede public health efforts to stem the spread of HIV, hepatitis and other infectious diseases. Human rights are violated, environmental assaults perpetrated and prisons inundated with hundreds of thousands of drug law violators. Scarce resources better expended on health, education and economic development are squandered on ever more expensive interdiction efforts. Realistic proposals to reduce drug-related crime, disease and death are abandoned in favor of rhetorical proposals to create drug-free societies. Persisting in our current policies will only result in more drug abuse, more empowerment of drug markets and criminals, and more disease and suffering. Too often those who call for open debate, rigorous analysis of current policies, and serious consideration of alternatives are accused of "surrendering." But the true surrender is when fear and inertia combine to shut off debate, suppress critical analysis, and dismiss all alternatives to current policies. Mr. Secretary General, we appeal to you to initiate a truly open and honest dialogue regarding the future of global drug control policies - one in which fear, prejudice and punitive prohibitions yield to common sense, science, public health and human rights. ---------- There are a gang of heads of state gathering at the UN, with cavalcades of limosines and guards racing around Manhattan to indifference, except for me, the only one jumping hurray at the sirens, whirling lights and bristling vans. All the SS guys facing backwards finger shot my middle digit aimed at them, then a sniper behind me put a red dot on it, scaring me shitless, I ran home.

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Update of Risks of Key Recovery Report
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.cdt.org/crypto/risks98 The Risks of Key Recovery, Key Escrow, and Trusted Third-Party Encryption 1998 Hal Abelson Ross Anderson Steven M. Bellovin Josh Benaloh Matt Blaze Whitfield Diffie John Gilmore Peter G. Neumann Ronald L. Rivest Jeffrey I. Schiller Bruce Schneier Final Report -- 27 May 1997 Updated -- June 8, 1998 ---------- Introduction and CDT's press release: http://jya.com/risks98.htm

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Re: Campaign Against Global War on Drugs
by StanSqncrs＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 6/8/98 5:34:38 PM Central Daylight Time, hedges(a)infonex.com writes: << And Marijuana remains California's number one cash crop as long as it is illegal... documented way back when by Dukmejian's (sp) agriculture secretary, whom he fired after the report. The cops cite you, confiscate it and smoke it, and everyone's happy because they're all making $480 per ounce from the end consumer on this crazy gene-engineered greenbud designed, catalogued, and bred by the University of California biology departments (esp. Santa Cruz). If it were legal, tobacco shops would stock joints for a tenth the price... they need new markets with the stricter tobacco legislation; maybe there's a lobby. I watched Dennis Peron battle it out with some meat-fisted guy from the Sherrifs' orgs in Congress. The cop went on about how "if we decriminalize marijuana, marijuana would no longer be illegal" >> It's illegal because of 1 reason. The "Know-nothings" have control of the illegal market. It's how they invade the bands. They create a dry spell, and then they come around offering free/cheap smoke, gain the trust of the band, and then they say - 'Say, could I create a little official webpage for you? You need to be on the net anyway (the big lie). I'll take care of it all for you.' Stan

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