December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Privacy and presidential philandering, from the Netly News
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

******** http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1714,00.html The Netly News (http://netlynews.com/) January 27, 1998 Private Parts by Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) Already you can hear the plaintive sound of President Clinton's partisans whining about privacy. The allegations about Will's wandering willy are too intimate, too sensitive and (if the truth be told) too embarrassing to be discussed publicly, they claim. Yesterday the wire services were busy recycling Hillary Clinton's plea for a "zone of privacy"; a Clinton defender wrote in USA Today that nobody should be "inflicting the details of his sex life on the public"; a piece in the New York Times complained about a "fishing expedition into the President's sexual history." On NBC's Today show, Hillary groused about living in "a time where people are malicious and evil-minded." On many electronic mailing lists, the talk nowadays seems to be of little else. "The current pursuit of Clinton -- whatever the facts turn out to be -- strikes me, itself, as an obscenity," griped Edward Kent on a First Amendment list. "We need more protections of privacy in this country." Michael Troy replied, "I don't think there is a constitutional right to privacy for an employer (who is also a public figure) having sex with an employee in the workplace." He's right. The call for greater "privacy protections" is a call for censorship in disguise. [...]

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Re: Latest Clinton dodge?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > Next thing you know, he'll say "She gave me a blow job, but didn't > swallow, so it's not sex." :) Is that like "if you don't get pregnant," it's not intercourse??? Gotta be a lot of virgins out there then.

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Re: Executing Kaczynski
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vladimir Ze Cornflake inquired of TCM: >> Recall that a leading Cypherpunk was suspected >>for a while as being the Unabomber. > >whoa, are you being facetious here or what? would you care to elaborate >on that little tidbit? ................................................. It was TCM himself. (myself, I speculated it was Detweiler.) .. Blanc

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New Plan for America!!!!!
by bubbabill＠whitehouse.gov 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tonight at the State of the Union I will announce my new plan for America - "Swallow the Leader"

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[Fwd: Check this out!] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From stugreen(a)bga.com Tue Jan 27 16:01:14 1998 Sender: root(a)coney.lsd-labs.com Message-ID: <34CE5A63.9D29DD2(a)bga.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:06:27 -0600 From: Stu Green <stugreen(a)bga.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01GoldC-Caldera (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ravage(a)ssz.com Subject: [Fwd: Check this out!] Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA14988 for <stugreen(a)bga.com>; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:39:17 -0600 Received: (qmail 13392 invoked from network); 27 Jan 1998 18:39:14 -0000 Received: from isdn5-69.ip.realtime.net (HELO bga.com) (205.238.160.69) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 27 Jan 1998 18:39:14 -0000 Message-ID: <34CE2AD0.F3822BFE(a)bga.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:43:28 -0600 From: David Neeley <dneeley(a)bga.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stugreen(a)bga.com Subject: Check this out! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In case you don't get an e-mail newsletter called "Tasty Bits from the Technology Front" I offer for your enjoyment: ..A warning on Microsoft (in)security Basic crypto weakness undermines all claims to security, expert says Longtime readers know that TBTF has been reporting on security weak- nesses in Microsoft's products, particularly Internet Explorer, for more than a year [25]. Now a security expert from New Zealand, Peter Gutmann, has posted a paper [26] claiming that the flaws are so ser- ious that Windows 95 users should entirely refrain from using the Web. Among the problems Gutmann points out is a critical weakness in the way Microsoft software protects (or does not protect) users' master encryption key; this weakness undermines all other encryp- tion components in Web servers and browsers. Gutmann outlines how a cracker could quietly retrieve the private key from a victim's ma- chine and break the encryption that "protects" it in a matter of seconds. The attacker has, Gutmann says, then "effectively stolen [the user's] digital identity, and can use it to digitally sign contracts and agreements, to recover every encryption session key it has ever protected in the past and will ever protect in the future, to access private and confidential email, and so on." TechWeb coverage is here [27]. [25] http://www.tbtf.com/resource/ms-sec-exploits.html [26] http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/breakms.txt [27] http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980123S0007

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Ultra computer.
by Trei, Peter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I also find the merriment at Nobuki Nakatuji poor English skills offensive - I wish I spoke Japanese as well as he can write English. That's not to say I think we should all go off and work on MISTY right away. However, on his 'NEC supercomputer', there's a somewhat low-content press release at http://www.nec.co.jp/english/today/newsrel/9801/2101.html They've been asked to design as 32 TFlop machine, with an aim of building it by 2002. It's a highly parallelized vector machine, ostensibly aimed at weather forcasting. It'll have 4 TB of RAM, and 'thousands' of processors. I wish I knew just what processor it's supposed to use, but it's probably only on paper at the moment. Here's a really rough calculation Assume integer instructions are no slower than the FP instructions. Best DES code for Alpha gets 94 clock cycles/key - guess 200 instructions/key. 2^56 *200 = 1.4e19 instructions = 450360 seconds = 125 hours to exhaust key space, or about 2.5/days on average. even if I'm off by a factor of two, this is pretty quick for a general purpose machine.

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opinion of Crypt::DES & Crypt::IDEA
by John Blair 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello, Does anybody on this list have an opinion of the quality of the Crypt::DES and Crypt::IDEA perl modules? I'm concerned with whether or not the modules use electronic code book instead of cipher block chaining encryption mode. The documentation does not make this clear. If nobody knows the answer to this I'll figure it out from the source code. However, I suspected I could save some time by asking here. Besides this question, does anybody have an opinion of the quality of these routines? I'm not asking for opinions regarding the quality or lack of quality of DES or IDEA, but of these particular implementations. thanks much, -john. ...................................................................... . . .....John.D.Blair... mailto:jdblair@uab.edu phoneto:205.975.7123 . . http://frodo.tucc.uab.edu faxto:205.975.7129 . ..sys|net.admin.... . . the university computer center ..... ..... g.e.e.k.n.i.k...the.university.of.alabama.at.birmingham.... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNM5d0QJjTpK3AXhBAQGN6QQAr14AZWWRPrRx4vRMTtecboL66rz2kmby +d5E1troSBDDvxkdpbsg4PhS05KEDrRJjjoCHUWDQlGeZ5RTsJUCgLOi1plXKsml K5oDqyEToa7AKazwcPC9DZj8JNf0/oNuZfWKw1cPW4r/QCmZI6DmdDb1xz3OFC+m 7+Okl/YERiU= =KxmH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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future proofing algorithms
by John Kelsey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [ To: Cypherpunks, Adam Back ## Date: 01/26/98 ## Subject: future proofing algorithms ] >Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:18:31 GMT >From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> >Subject: future proofing algorihtms (Re: (eternity) Eternity > as a secure filesystem/backup medium) >It is interesting to note that Tim May's recent suggestion >of LAM (Local Area Mixes) would help here because if 5 of >those mixmaster nodes where part of a LAM, it is unlikely >that the NSA would be able to archive inter remailer >traffic, thus increasing effective pool size to 100^5. So >one advantage of the LAM approach is that it provides links >which are protected by physical security. This is a good point. The crypto looks like the strongest link in the chain right now, but if it turns out not to be, reliance on local physical security isn't a bad idea. (This works only if the huge numbers of the local machines must be subverted for an attack to work; if the attacker has to take over only a couple machines, he can probably manage this.) Discovering a better way to bypass my physical security today doesn't let you know who sent what last year, and security guards don't become retroactively twice as cheap to bribe every eighteen months. >> Note that, in practice, this isn't likely to be useful >> unless you've done the same kind of thing for symmetric key >> distribution, random number generation, etc. Otherwise, >> your attacker in 2050 will bypass the symmetric encryption >> entirely and factor your RSA modulus, or guess all the >> entropy sources used for your PRNG, or whatever else you can >> think of. >Yes. We need to build constructs for all areas. A mega >hash would be nice, with a large output size even in the >face of birthday attack, preferably as secure as a >collection of hash functions. Right. I've seen some work done on this, mostly informally. The basic result I'm aware of with hash functions is like this: Let f() and g() be two different hash functions, such as SHA1 and RIPE-MD160. Let X,Y be the concatenation of X and Y. Then: Hash1(X) = f(X),g(X) Hash2(X) = f(g(X)),g(f(X)) You can quickly convince yourself that Hash1(X) is at least as resistant to collision as the stronger of f() and g(), but it's only as resistant as the weaker of the two to leaking information about X. (That is, if f(X) just gives you the low 160 bits of X, then Hash1(X) gives you the same thing.) Hash2() won't leak information unless both f() and g() leak information about their inputs, but you can't guarantee that it will be very good against collisions. (That is, if f(X) = 0 for all X, then all possible X values cause a collision in Hash2(X).) If f() and g() are independent, and one of them looks like a random function of X, then Hash3(X) = f(X) XOR g(X) looks pretty good. But it's possible for either f() or g() to be non-reversible without Hash3() being nonreversible. (The obvious case occurs when you think of something like f(X) = X g(X) = encrypt_{knownKey}(X) XOR X. Note that g() looks rather like some existing hash functions, where encrypt() is a known function. >That gives us something to wash our pseudo random number >input entropy with, and then we can go on to combine public >key systems. Right. Choosing the PRNG well is important, but I suspect that the real issue is going to be getting enough input entropy. If you can get 80 bits of real entropy today, you have a reasonably secure system now, but NSA may not find your system that secure in twenty years. For resistance to cryptanalysis, we can use the same set of stream ciphers as before. If we run Blowfish, 3DES, and SAFER-SK128 in OFB-mode, and XOR the streams together, we get an output stream that's no easier to predict than the weakest of the three ciphers used. Entropy collection on a wide range of different machines, without specialized hardware, is just a hard thing to do well. It's especially hard if you're postulating a massively powerful attacker years in the future. >A problem with public key systems however is that there >isn't a lot of choice -- basically all based on discrete log >or factoring. So perhaps RSA and DH combined in a construct >with an optimistically proportioned key size would be near >all that could be done. That sounds about right. Note that LAMs and such can use shared symmetric keys along with the public keys, so that an attacker has to get both to defeat the system. When the number of mixes is small, maybe some informal password-sharing at conferences might help this. For LAMs, some level of hand-carried key exchange can be used. Then, actual keys can be encrypted as RSA(R_0), ElGamal(R_1) are sent Previously shared secret key K_2 is known. Session Key = SK = E_{K_2}(R_0) XOR E_{K_2}(R_2). Also note that DH should probably be used with many different prime moduli, to resist any massive precomputation on one modulus. Maybe each mix could have several expensively-prepared Sophie Germaine primes, and senders could randomly select one for DH or El Gamal encryption. This would spread out a future attacker's resources, though of course, the attacker's effort scales only linearly in the number of (expensive to find) primes. >I suspect archiving world Network traffic would pose >something of a operational and financial strain :-) On the other hand, perhaps this is how NSA will pay their employees' salaries once crypto becomes sufficiently widespread: They will start a search engine service on all those archives of usenet/internet traffic for all these years: ``Check up on your political opponents' newsreading habits. Read the love letters of libertarian activists in the 90s. Find out whether Chief Justice Clarence Thomas ever visits adult web sites these days. *Only* at http://www.archives.nsa.org '' It would actually be very funny if historians in a couple centuries got access to the NSA's archives of recorded phone calls, telegrams, and e-mails. Imagine the odd assumptions that would result, with history students having this image of twentieth century america based on recorded phone calls of anarchists, antiwar activists, civil rights activists, communists, important politicians, mobsters, suspected spies, and wealthy businessmen. >Adam Note: I read CP-LITE instead of the whole list. Please CC me on replies. - --John Kelsey, kelsey(a)counterpane.com / kelsey(a)plnet.net NEW PGP print = 5D91 6F57 2646 83F9 6D7F 9C87 886D 88AF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNM5efSZv+/Ry/LrBAQGN8wP/aHKJbm024oDMNZIozcBGW+Vt4bKKLDoZ xhV6DQ3e4v9UadYJeKpCfRjrMDC06H6eP3D4E8vizEHVk2JCvHDTN3Fshf5pOtB2 tgrooYOP1pC5FuQAPPyhkJ840V7ve0mlpy3VWz5/hSvkkP1BW7KHoFv47sniVHZe RFsiz/hW7jc= =2Oml -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Easy Money
by tgustavo.sanjuan＠interredes.com.ar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is it! THE MOST PHENOMENAL WEALTH-BUILDING BONANZA IN HISTORY. A once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for you to upgrade the quality of your life forever. Your chance to automatically capitalize on the historic outpouring of humanity on to the Internet. (It will only happen once ... and it's happening RIGHT NOW!) Take just four minutes to discover the secret that WILL IMMEDIATELY CHANGE YOUR LIFE. (Do you *really* have something else to do more important than THAT?) You are about to embark upon a wonderful journey to amass a small fortune in a short time. (Even a LARGE fortune, if you choose to devote some effort.) It's easy and fail proof. All you have to do is take the first step. You've paid your dues; you deserve it. Now it's your turn. WITHIN 90 DAYS, YOU'LL HAVE MORE THAN $50,000 ... and that's just the beginning! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? Simple: To begin with, realize that there were only about two-million Internet "host sites" in 1994 -- yet that number had soared to around 20 million by the end of 1997. In other words, the rate of Internet growth is geometric -- like 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, etc. And, for the moment, even THAT rate is accelerating. Now, the most famous example of a host site is aol.com, America Online(tm). It, by itself, has over ten-million people as members. (Not all host sites have members, though.) HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART: Following the present trend, the number of host sites will skyrocket to nearly ONE HUNDRED MILLION during 1998. And that's just the host sites! Now, imagine how many individual PEOPLE are rushing on line for the first time ... right now ... this very instant. This creates tremendous opportunity for you. But there's no time to waste! (How long can THAT growth rate continue? Oh, sure, it will keep growing -- just not at the historic 1998 rate.) IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR YOUR SHIP TO COME IN, THIS IS IT. (Don't let it sail away without you.) So here it is, the easiest money-generating system you'll ever hear about. One that's showing extraordinary appeal to an ever-expanding mass of people who feel the need for additional income. And YOU can help them fulfill that need. HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. HOW? In short, by developing a mailing list of people who need extra money. (I know: it doesn't seem very exciting yet, but keep reading.) And people will pay you to be on your list. A LOT of people. (See: it's already starting to sound better.) Let's go through it step by step so you'll know exactly what to do ... and why (Step #4!) so many people feel hope again. If you've seen a lot of posts like this, you already have PROOF that THIS SYSTEM WORKS. ____________________STEP 1._________________ You will need these instructions later; so save them on your hard drive. (FILE then SAVE. If you have a choice, choose a "text" or "ASCII" file type.) Now print these instructions so you can read them more easily. (Go ahead, I'll wait for you ...) ____________________STEP 2._________________ This is the step where you invest money. Less than $10. (Try not to cry.) About the same as the price of a movie ticket, or a 12-pack of beer, or a few lottery tickets. In this "lottery," however, YOU control the results. YOU CANNOT AFFORD *NOT* TO DO THIS. On a sheet of paper, write "Processing fee to add me to your mailing list". (You, too, are one of those people wanting extra income, aren't you? Besides, the inherent value of being on that mailing list is what makes this a legal program. [The relevant American laws are in the United States Code, Title 18, §1302, §1341, and §1342.]) Fold the sheet around a US $1 bill. Mail this to the List Manager in Position A, located at the end of these instructions. Double- check the postage for any mail going outside your country. Repeat that for the other List Managers. ___________________STEP 3.__________________ Use Notepad (preferably) or some other word processor to open the file you saved in Step 1. Scroll to the List Managers section. Delete the name and address under Position F. Move the name and address from Position E down to Position F. Then, in order, move each of the others down one until Position A is left vacant. That's where your name and address go! Double check your address: whatever is there is where all your money will go. Save the file. (If you don't have Notepad, be sure to save it as an "ASCII" or "text" file.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ NOW, HERE'S THE MAGIC PART . . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ____________________STEP 4._________________ THIS STEP MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD. It's also where you invest a little time. As much as four hours, if you use America Online. (Try not to cry.) If it'll be easier on you, take an hour per day. Skip those X Files episodes you've already seen twice. In THIS show, YOU control the ending. All those people coming on line for the first time. Nearly TWO-THOUSAND NEW PEOPLE PER DAY ... and growing! Where do they go? Sooner or later --but usually immediately-- they go to the newsgroups. Isn't that where YOU discovered this opportunity? Over 40,000 newsgroups, now, and that's growing, too. (There's a list of 49,000 at ftp://ftp.alt.net/pub/news/active.) So, simply take the file you saved in Step 3 and post it to some newsgroups. Three hundred, to be precise. (How? See below.) How many people will be exposed to your offer during the two weeks your post will remain in the newsgroup? Depending on how you choose the newsgroups, anywhere from 10,000 to OVER A MILLION PEOPLE WILL SEE YOUR OFFER. ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ The implications of that are down right staggering. Even more so than it might seem! (See the Example section, below -- especially the first and last paragraphs.) ___________________STEP 5.__________________ Now begins the greatest money-making exprience of your life! In about a week, you start receiving requests and processing fees from opportunity seekers around the world. And they all want to be added to your mailing list. WHY do they want to do this? Well, for the most of the same reasons YOU want to do this! What will you do with all those requests? It's up to you. For example, you can sell them to professional list brokers, found in the Yellow Pages, who will see that offers are sent out. You can take up exotic-stamp collecting. To some of the addresses, you might even send these instructions: Most people want to jump right back in again as soon as their name moves out of Position F; after all, they already KNOW how well this works! And, what will you do with all that money? That, also, is up to you. (You can think of something, can't you?) ____________________________________________ Example ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ This example assumes that you post, one time, to just 300 newsgroups, with an average readership of merely 100 people during the dozen days your message stays on file. It assumes that VIRTUALLY EVERYONE --9,998 out of every 10,000 potential readers-- does NOT even see your opportunity, does NOT read it, or is already involved or, in any case, does NOT take any action. In marketing terms, this assumes a response rate of merely one fiftieth of one percent (0.0002). That's considered almost no response at all! (NOW can you see why this works so well?) You in Position A: Only 6 respond to your efforts. 6 x $1 = $6 You in Position B: Only 6 respond to each of the 6 in A. 36 x $1 = $36 You in Position C: Only 6 respond to each of the 36 in B. 216 x $1 = $216 You in Position D: Only 6 respond to each of the 216 in C. 1,296 x $1 = $1,296 You in Position E: Only 6 respond to each of the 1296 in D. 7,776 x $1 = $7,776 You in Position F: Only 6 respond to each of the 7776 in E. 46,656 x $1 = $46,656 _______ Your income $55,986 If, however, these people each get a mere 8 responses (out of 30,000 people!), your income increases to well over a quarter of a million dollars! PEOPLE ARE TRULY ACCOMPLISHING THIS. RIGHT NOW! *WHY NOT YOU?* How? The details are in your hands this very instant. THAT'S IT. All you have to do is actually begin. You may even wish to try for 20 people. You literally won't believe how much THAT produces. So, do the numbers for yourself. (I'll give you two hints: a. For ten, it's 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 = $1,000,000. b. Have you heard of a "sixty-four million dollar question"?) You just might end up wanting to spend a few DAYS posting, and to take it to a few of your friends. But start -- start today -- and start with just 300 newsgroups. THIS IS THE MOMENT YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR. __________How To Post To Newsgroups_________ To post, just "cut and paste": Highlight the entire text of these instructions. Choose EDIT then COPY. You only need to do that once. Here's the part you repeat: Go to the newsgroup. Click on Send New Message, Post Article, To News, or whatever applies. Type your headline in the Subject box. (Some subject heading samples are listed below.) Go to the Message box. Paste these instructions by holding down your Ctrl key while you depress the letter V. Click on Send, OK, or whatever is there. STEP-BY-STEP DIRECTIONS FOR AMERICA ONLINE: Go on line. Click on the Internet globe at the bottom of your Welcome page. Edit the Web Address window to read --without the quotes-- "http://members.aol.com/TouchMidas/private/aol-gold.txt". Click on Go To The Web. When you see the directions, print them out by clicking on the printer icon at the top of your screen. (If you receive a "URL Not Found" error, carefully re-type the address. If the it seems to have been discontinued, try this address: "http://home1.gte.net/docthomp/AOL.htm".) ___________Sample Subject Headings__________ .A Once-In-A-Lifetime Opportunity .How You Can Make $25,000 Per Month .How To Re-Invent Your Life .The Greatest Wealth-Building Bonanza In History! .Upgrade The Quality Of Your Life .FA$T, EA$Y MONEY! <-- Why you see so many of these: .Work At Home With Your Computer .Financial Independence .! > FA$T, EA$Y MONEY! < .Income Opportunity .Be a millionaire in 1998 .Make money with your computer .!!$$ Hard Fast Cash $$!! .Immediate Internet Income At Home (complete instructions) .Safe Income Now .$$ Need Cash? $$ .! Earn THOU$AND$ posting to newsgroups! .Income From The Internet .Yes, you can make money working from home .MAKE MONEY FA$T & EA$Y .Home-Based Business Opportunity .Internet Income <-Why you're gonna see more of this You're really here; you made it! Congratulations on your breakthrough to financial independence and an enhanced quality of living. Or... ******************************************** * WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? ******************************************** Maybe things like this never work for you? (You are surely correct ... unless you're already grabbing an envelope.) You tried something like this before? (Have you *REALLY* ever reached 30,000 people before?) Maybe you'll only get $10,000? (Life is cruel.) Maybe you're already making $2,000 per hour? Maybe nobody else will do this? (Look around the newsgroups: they already ARE doing this. How much proof do you need?) Then, maybe everyone else is already doing this? (Definitely NOT! But you'll END UP being right if you keep putting this off.) "I'll do it later, really!" (Yeah, right.) Maybe the Easter Bunny will change your life, so you won't have to bother? Is the price of a movie ticket truly more important than your future? GO FOR THE GOLD: What have you got to lose? !-------REMEMBER, follow these steps and be honest, and the money will pour in! ________________List Managers_______________ #1 B. Spiegeleer 31 rue de la Montagne de lEsperou 75015 Paris Francia #2 C. Leyton Bulnes 737 San Bernardo, Santiago Chile #3 A. Curth Azcuenaga 1360 PB2 Buenos Aires, CF 1115 ARGENTINA #4 L Mastrogiacomo Maipú 596 1er piso Merlo (1722) Buenos Aires ARGENTINA #5 P. Oregioni Salta 662 Merlo (1722) Buenos Aires Argentina #6 A. Alvarez Chopin 149 norte Santa Lucia (5411) San Juan Argentina Note: If you don't read spanish send me an e-mail and I will send you a translated copy. Believe me, IT's WORTH IT! acurth(a)usa.net ----- Las puertas del año se abren, ----- como las del lenguaje, ----- hacia lo desconocido. ----- Anoche me dijiste: ----- mañana habrá que trazar unos signos, ----- dibujar un paisaje, tejer una trama ----- sobre la doble página ----- del papel y del día. ----- Mañana habrá que inventar de nuevo, ----- la realidad de este mundo. Octavio Paz ________________________________________________ This is a true story! Esta historia es Real! Días atrás, cuando "navegaba" por estas páginas de Newsgroups, así mismo como Ud. lo esta haciendo ahora, se me apareció un artículo similar a este que decía que uno puede ganar miles de dólares en pocas semanas con una inversión de $6.00!. Enseguida pensé, "Oh no! otra estafa más?", pero como la mayoría de nosotros, la curiosidad pudo más, y seguí leyendo. Y seguía diciendo que Ud. enviará $1.00 a cada uno de los 6 nombres y direcciones mencionados en este artículo. Entonces Ud. anota su nombre y dirección al final de la lista reemplazando al #6, y envíe o ponga este artículo a por lo menos 200 "Newsgroups"(Hay miles de estos en todo el mundo). Ningún truco, eso fue todo. La gran diferencia entre este sistema y otros es que Ud. tiene una lista de 6 en vez de 5... Esto significa que su promedio de ganancia será aproximadamente 15 veces mayor!!! Después de pensarlo una y otra vez, y consultar con unos amigos primero, decidí probarlo. Pensé que lo único que podría perder eran 6 estampillas y $6.00, verdad?. Como probablemente muchos de nosotros, estaba un poco preocupado por la legalidad de todo esto. Entonces consulté en las oficinas del Correo Central y me confirmaron que en realidad era legal!! . Entonces invertí mis $6.00......IMAGÍNENSE QUÉ!!!...a los 7 días, empecé a recibir dinero por correo!!!. Estaba sorprendido! todavía pensaba esto terminará enseguida, y no pensé más en otra cosa. Pero el dinero seguía llegando. En mi primera semana hice unos $20.00 a $30.00 dólares. Para el final de la segunda semana tenia hecho un total de más de $1,000.00!!!!! En la tercera semana recibí más de $10,000.00 y todavía seguía llegando más. Esta es mi cuarta semana ya hice un total de más de $41,000.00 y esto sigue llegando más rápidamente(mi esposa e hijos se pasan abriendo los sobres y yo consiguiendo "Newsgroups"). Esto se puso serio!!!! Todo esto realmente valió la inversión de $6.00 y 6 estampillas. Me gastaba más que esto en sorteos y loterías!! Permítanme explicarles como funciona esto y lo más importante el por qué funciona....también, Ud. asegúrese de imprimir una copia de este artículo AHORA, para poder sacar toda la información a medida que lo necesite. El proceso es muy fácil y consiste en 3 pasos sencillos: PASO No. 1: Obtenga 6 hojas de papel y escriba en cada una de ellas: "FAVOR DE INCLUIRME EN SU LISTA DE CORRESPONDENCIA O E-MAIL". Ahora consiga 6 billetes de US$1.00 dólar e introduzca cada dólar en un sobre con la hoja de manera que el billete no se vea a través del sobre!! Mejor ponerlo encerrado en un papel de color oscuro para prevenir robos de correspondencia. **OPCIONAL: Mande una tarjeta postal de su ciudad o país. Ahora Ud. debería tener 6 sobres sellados y en ellos un papel con la frase mencionada, su nombre y dirección, y un billete de $1.00 dólar. Lo que Ud. esta haciendo con esto es crear un "servicio" y eso hace que esto sea ABSOLUTAMENTE LEGAL!! Enviar los 6 sobres a las siguientes direcciones: #1 B. Spiegeleer 31 rue de la Montagne de lEsperou 75015 Paris Francia #2 C. Leyton Bulnes 737 San Bernardo, Santiago Chile #3 A. Curth Azcuenaga 1360 PB2 Buenos Aires, CF 1115 ARGENTINA #4 L Mastrogiacomo Maipú 596 1er piso Merlo (1722) Buenos Aires ARGENTINA #5 P. Oregioni Salta 662 Merlo (1722) Buenos Aires Argentina #6 A. Alvarez Chopin 149 norte Santa Lucia (5411) San Juan Argentina PASO NO. 2: Ahora elimine el #1 de la lista de arriba y mueva los otros nombres un número para arriba (el #6 se convierte en #5, el #5 se convierte en #4, Etc.) y agregue SU NOMBRE y dirección como el #6 en la lista. PASO No. 3: Cambie todo lo que crea conveniente de este artículo, pero trate de mantenerlo lo más posible cercano al original. Ahora ponga su artículo en por lo menos 200 "Newsgroups"(existen más de 24,000 grupos). Solo necesita 200, pero cuando más cantidad lo ponga, más dinero le llegará!!!. Aquí van algunas indicaciones de como introducirse en los "Newsgroups": -------------------------------------------------------------- COMO MANEJAR LOS "NEWSGROUPS" -------------------------------------------------------------- No.1> Ud. no necesita redactar de nuevo toda esta carta para hacer la suya propia. Solamente ponga su cursor al comienzo de esta carta, haga click y lo deja presionando y bájelo hasta el final de la carta y lárguelo. Toda la carta deberá estar "sombreada". Entonces, apunte y haga click en "edit" arriba de su pantalla, aquí seleccione "copy. Esto hará que toda la carta quede en la memoria de su computadora. No.2> Abra un archivo "notepad" y lleve al cursor arriba de la página en blanco. Presione "edit" y del menu seleccione "paste". Ahora tendrá esta carta en el "notepad" y podrá agregar su nombre y dirección en el lugar #6 siguiendo las instrucciones de más arriba. No.3> Grave esta carta en su nuevo archivo del notepad como un .txt file. Y cada vez que quiera cambiar algo ya lo puede hacer. ---------------------------------------------------------------- PARA LOS QUE MANEJAN COMMUNICATOR ---------------------------------------------------------------- Seleccione "message center". 1- Haga doble click sobre "News". 2- Aparecerá la ventana "Subscribe to Discussion Groups". 3-Seleccione los grupos a suscribirse. 4-Presione "suscribe". 5- Presione "OK". 6-Ahora seleccione desde "news" un servidor y mande este documento. ---------------------------------------------------------------- PARA LOS QUE MANEJAN NETSCAPE ---------------------------------------------------------------- No.4> Dentro del programa Netscape, vaya a la "ventana" titulada :Window" y seleccione "netscapeNews". Entonces elija del menu "Options", seleccione "Show all Newsgroups". En segundos una lista de todos los "Newsgroups" de su "server" aparecerá. Haga click en cualquier newsgroup. De este newsgroup haga click debajo de "TO NEWS", el cual deberia estar arriba, en el extremo izquierdo de la página de Newsgroups. Esto le llevará a la caja de mensajes. No.5> Llene este espacio. Este será el título que verán todos cuando recorran por la lista de un grupo en particular. No.6> Marque el contenido completo del .txt file y copie usando la misma técnica anterior. Regrese al Newsgroup "TO NEWS" y Ud. esta creando y empastando esta carta dentro de su programa o "posting". No.7> Presione "send" que está en la parte superior izquierda. Y UD. HA FINALIZADO CON SU PRIMERO!...CONGRATULACIONES!!! . ---------------------------------------------------------------- LOS QUE USAN INTERNET EXPLORER ---------------------------------------------------------------- PASO No. 4: Vaya al Newsgroups y seleccione "Post an Article. PASO No. 5: Carge el artículo. PASO No. 6: Repita el No.6> más arriba. PASO No. 7: Presione el botón "Post". -------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________ ES TODO!. Todo lo que tiene que hacer es meterse en diferentes "Newsgroups" y empastarlos, cuando ya tenga práctica, solo le tomará unos 30 segundos por cada newsgroup! **RECUERDE, CUANTOS MÁS NEWSGROUPS CONSIGA, MÁS RESPUESTAS (Y DINERO) RECIBIRÁ!! PERO DEBE DE ENTRAR EN POR LO MENOS 200** YA ESTA!!!.... Ud. estará recibiendo dinero de todo el mundo, de lugares que ni conoce y en unos pocos días!. Eventualmente querrá rentar un P.O.Box por la cantidad de sobres que irá recibiendo. **ASEGÚRESE DE QUE TODAS LAS DIRECCIONES ESTEN CORRECTAS Ahora el POR QUÉ de todo esto: #6 - De 200 enviados, digamos que recibo solo 5 respuestas (bajísimo ejemplo). Entonces hice $5.00 con mi nombre en la posición #6 de esta carta. #5 - Ahora, cada uno de las 5 personas que ya me enviaron los $1.00 también hacen un mínimo 200 Newsgroups, cada uno con mi nombre en el #5 de la lista y solo responden 5 personas a cada uno de los 5 originales, esto hace $25.00 más que yo recibo #4 - Ahora estas 25 personas pone un mínimo de 200 Newsgroups con mi nombre en el #4 y solo se recibe 5 respuestas de cada uno. Estaría haciendo otros $125.00 adicionales. #3 - Ahora esta 125 personas ponen sus mínimo de 200 grupos con mi nombre en el #3 y solo recibe 5 respuestas cada una, yo recibo un adicional de $625.00!. #2 - OK, aquí esta la parte más divertida, cada una de estas 625 personas ponen sus cartas en otros 200 grupos con mi nombre en el #2 y cada una recibe solo 5 respuestas, esto hace que yo reciba $3,125.00!!!. #1 - Estas 3,125 personas enviarán este mensaje a un mínimo de 200 Newsgroups con mi nombre en el #1 y si solo 5 personas responden de los 200 grupos, estaré recibiendo $15,625.00!!. De una inversión original de $6.00!! más estampillas. FABULOSO! Y como dije antes, que solo 5 personas respondan muy poca, el promedio real seria 20 o 30 personas!. Asique pongamos estos números a calcular. Si solo 15 personas responden, esto hace: en la #6 $15.00 en la #5 $225.00 en la #4 $3,375.00 en la #3 $50,625.00 en la #2 $759,375.00 en la #1 $11,390,625.00 Una vez que su nombre ya no esta en la lista, saque el ultimo anuncio del Newsgroup y envíe otros $6.00 a los nombres en esa lista, poniendo su nombre en el #6 y repetir todo el proceso. Y empezar a ponerlos en los Newsgroups otra vez. Lo que debe recordar es que miles de personas más, en todo el mundo, se conectan al Internet cada día y leerán estos artículos todos los días como USTED Y YO LO HACEMOS!!!. Así que creo nadie tendría problemas en invertir $6.00 y ver si realmente esto funciona. Algunas personas llegan a pensar..."y si nadie decide contestarme?" Que!! Cuál es la chance de que esto pasé cuando hay miles y miles de personas honestas (que como nosotros) buscan una manera de tener independencia financiera y pagar cuentas!!!., y estan dispuestas a tratar, pues "No hay peor lucha de la que no se hace". Se estima que existen de 20,000 a 50.000 nuevos usuarios TODOS LOS DIAS! (en todo el mundo) ******************************************* OTRO SISTEMA PARA COMUNICARSE ES CONSIGUIENDO E-MAIL DE PERSONAS PARTICULARES, DEBE SER POR LO MENOS 200 DIRECCIONES, Y ESTO TIENE UNA EFECTIVIDAD DE MINIMO 5% AL 15%. SI SOLO BUSCAN PERSONAS QUE HABLAN ESPAÑOL, VAYAN A UN PROVEEDOR DE E-MAILS E IMPRIMAN UN APELLIDO LATINO Y YA. Recuerde de hacerlo esto en forma CORRECTA, LIMPIA Y HONESTAMENTE y funcionará con toda seguridad. Solamente tiene que ser honesto. Asegúrese de imprimir este artículo AHORA, Trate de mantener la lista de todos los que les envían dinero y siempre fíjese en los Newsgroups y vea si todos están participando limpiamente. Recuerde, HONESTIDAD ES EL MEJOR MÉTODO. No se necesita hacer trucos con la idea básica de hacer dinero en esto! BENDICIONES PARA TODOS, y suerte, juguemos limpio y aprovechar esta hermosa oportunidad de hacer toneladas de dinero con el Internet. **Dicho sea de paso, si Ud. defrauda a las personas poniendo mensajescon su nombre y no envía ningún dinero a los demás en esa lista, Ud. recibirá casi NADA!. He conversado con personas que conocieron personas que hicieron eso y solo llegaron a colectar unos $150.00, y eso después de unas 7 semanas!. Algunos decidieron probar otra vez, haciendo correctamente, y en 4 a 5 semanas recibieron más de $10.000. Esto es la más limpia y honesta manera de compartir fortuna que yo jamás haya visto, sin costarnos mucho excepto un poco de tiempo. El TIEMPO ES IMPORTANTE!, no dejar pasar más de 7 días del momento que vea este artículo!. También puede conseguir lista de E-MAIL para obtener dinero extra. Sigamos todos las reglas del negocio! Recuerde mencionar estas ganancias extras en sus declaraciones de impuestos. Gracias otra vez y BENDICIONES A TODOS!!

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