December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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17 Dec '03

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Re: rant on the morality of confidentiality (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ok, my absolutely last post on this issue. Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: rant on the morality of confidentiality (fwd) > From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) > Date: Fri, 09 Jan 98 19:50:35 EST > > Anyone who would tell their dying wife, via their son, to wait a moment > > until he had finished his calculations is not a nice person. > > Do you have proof that Gauss did that? This sounds like another one of > those urban legends the envious sheeple like to invent about celebrities, > like the claim that Leonrado da Vinci was a cocksucker. It is a commen citation in several of his biographies. The first place I saw it was in a science history book that Isaac Asimov wrote (you know who he is I assume, known for writing world-class sci-fi and one of the best bio-chemistry textbooks around in the 70's and early 80's) back in the late 70's. It's the same book where he talks about Torricelli (he invented the mercurey barometer) and how he sent his brother-in-law into the bandit infested hills to actualy test the device. There seems to have been some indication that Torricelli had an alterior motive in this action. Unfortunately I think I have attempted to read a large fraction of the 300+ books that Asimov wrote at one time or another since about 1965 when I really started to read sci-fi and as a result they all seem to run together. I looked in the couple of Asimov books that I actualy own but unfortunately it isn't in either of them. I will look at the library I keep at the shop next time I go out there but it is equaly likely it was destroyed in my house fire 3+ years ago. If somebody out there knows which book this is I would appreciate the citation. I will add this to my 'hunt-list' that I keep as I tour the many bookstores here in Austin. If I find it I'll holler. > > > argument you can make is to cite Bolyai's claims that Lobachevsky was not > > > a real person but a "tentacle" of Gauss, created to persecute Bolyai > > > (gee, that sounds vaguely familiar...), and you can't find any more dirt > > > on Gauss, then it proves to me that he was indeed a remarkably nice person. > > > > What the hell are you talking about here? I made no such claims at all. > > You're citing janos Bolyai, who claimed exactly that. Unfortunately, the > poor chap went insane. No, I am citing the translator of Bolyai's book; Dr. George Bruce Halsted. If you want to discuss this further and intelligently it might do you well to have actualy read the book, which by your own admission you never have. Don't be a miser, spend the $6.00 US. I *might* take your comments a hell of a lot more seriously if just once you would cite a single reference to *any* of your comments or claims. It is interesting that when it comes down to proof you don't have the time to do the research nor do you *ever* fill any request for references. > You're confused, Jim. Farkas Bolyai (the father) never claimed to have > invented non-euclidean geometry. Your twisting words and dangerously approaching straight out lying. Both Farkas Bolyai and Gauss worked together on non-euclidian geometry. Let me quote the translators notes for the book: " But to prove Euclid's system, we must show that a triangle's angle-sum is exactly a straight angle, which nothing human can ever do. However, this is anticipating, for in 1799 it seems that the mind of the elder Bolyai, Bolyai Farkas, was in precisely the same state as that of his friend Gauss. Both were intensely trying to prove what now we know is indemonstable. ..." As to my making mistakes, big fucking deal. Everyone does. The difference between you and me is that I am not trying to do anything other than figure out what happened and why. If I'm wrong I'll admit it (and I am at least once a day). I am also willing to do the research (as best I can with what resources I have) and also willing to cite it. All I ask from those who wish to debate issues with me is equal treatment, in short the opportunity to review their sources and an honest opportunity to refute those sources. You seem to have a personal motive in everything you submit and further *never* cite any sort of source that can be reviewed and repudiated or supported. To put it bluntly, you lack honesty in your dealings with others. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Will the First Puppy go under the ax?
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Q: Mike, before getting to more important issues, how come you guys aren't neutering Buddy? (Laughter.) MCCURRY: There are a lot of people around here who have been neutered, but I haven't heard a discussion of Buddy being neutered. I do not know the answer to that. I will talk to the First Dog owner and get the answer to that question. Q: You would know if there was going to be an announcement today, wouldn't you? MCCURRY: I would not go beyond what I just said -- the Treasury Department is the place to go. Q: On the neutering? (Laughter.) MCCURRY: Not on neutering. Can you spay or neuter a puppy? Q: Six months. MCCURRY: Any dog owners out there that can help us? Q: Mike, neutering is usually six months -- MCCURRY: That's what I thought. It's got to be a little bit older. Q: I heard that you were planning not to neuter him. MCCURRY: I wasn't planning to do anything with him. (Laughter.) Other than sucking up to the president by scratching little Buddy's belly from time to time. (Laughter.) Q: It will, however, be at risk. (Laughter.) MCCURRY: I'll find out on that. And I know your insatiable appetite for dog trivia -- I will see if I can find out about that.

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by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=000602131144806&rtmo=0sKsx2bq&atmo 0sKsx2bq&pg=/et/97/12/16/ecspy16..html A European Commission report warns that the United States has developed an extensive network spying on European citizens and we should all be worried. Simon Davies reports [INLINE] Cooking up a charter for snooping Spies everywhere A GLOBAL electronic spy network that can eavesdrop on every telephone, email and telex communication around the world will be officially acknowledged for the first time in a European Commission report to be delivered this week. The report - Assessing the Technologies of Political Control - was commissioned last year by the Civil Liberties Committee of the European Parliament. It contains details of a network of American-controlled intelligence stations on British soil and around the world, that "routinely and indiscriminately" monitor countless phone, fax and email messages. It states: "Within Europe all email telephone and fax communications are routinely intercepted by the United States National Security Agency transfering all target information from the European mainland via the strategic hub of London then by satellite to Fort Meade in Maryland via the crucial hub at Menwith Hill in the North York moors in the UK." The report confirms for the first time the existence of the secretive ECHELON system. Until now, evidence of such astounding technology has been patchy and anecdotal. But the report - to be discussed on Thursday by the committee of the office of Science and Technology Assessment in Luxembourg - confirms that the citizens of Britain and other European states are subject to an intensity of surveillance far in excess of that imagined by most parliaments. Its findings are certain to excite the concern of MEPs. "The ECHELON system forms part of the UKUSA system (see 'Cooking up a charter for snooping') but unlike many of the electronic spy systems developed during the Cold War, ECHELON is designed primarily for non-military targets: governments, organizations and businesses in virtually every country. "The ECHELON system works by indiscriminately intercepting very large quantities of communications and then siphoning out what is valuable using artificial intelligence aids like MEMEX to find key words". According to the report, ECHELON uses a number of national dictionaries containing key words of interest to each country. For more than a decade, former agents of US, British, Canadian and New Zealand national security agencies have claimed that the monitoring of electronic communications has become endemic throughout the world. Rumours have circulated that new technologies have been developed which have the capability to search most of the world's telex, fax and email networks for "key words". Phone calls, they claim, can be automatically analysed for key words. Former signals intelligence operatives have claimed that spy bases controlled by America have the ability to search nearly all data communications for key words. They claim that ECHELON automatically analyses most email messaging for "precursor" data which assists intelligence agencies to determine targets. According to former Canadian Security Establishment agent Mike Frost, a voice recognition system called Oratory has been used for some years to intercept diplomatic calls. The driving force behind the report is Glyn Ford, Labour MEP for Greater Manchester East. He believes that the report is crucial to the future of civil liberties in Europe. "In the civil liberties committee we spend a great deal of time debating issues such as free movement, immigration and drugs. Technology always sits at the centre of these discussions. There are times in history when technology helps democratise, and times when it helps centralise. This is a time of centralisation. The justice and home affairs pillar of Europe has become more powerful without a corresponding strengthening of civil liberties." The report recommends a variety of measures for dealing with the increasing power of the technologies of surveillance being used at Menwith Hill and other centres. It bluntly advises: "The European Parliament should reject proposals from the United States for making private messages via the global communications network (Internet) accessible to US intelligence agencies." The report also urges a fundamental review of the involvement of the American NSA (National Security Agency) in Europe, suggesting that their activities be either scaled down, or become more open and accountable. Such concerns have been privately expressed by governments and MEPs since the Cold War, but surveillance has continued to expand. US intelligence activity in Britain has enjoyed a steady growth throughout the past two decades. The principal motivation for this rush of development is the US interest in commercial espionage. In the Fifties, during the development of the "special relationship" between America and Britain, one US institution was singled out for special attention. The NSA, the world's biggest and most powerful signals intelligence organisation, received approval to set up a network of spy stations throughout Britain. Their role was to provide military, diplomatic and economic intelligence by intercepting communications from throughout the Northern Hemisphere. The NSA is one of the shadowiest of the US intelligence agencies. Until a few years ago, it existence was a secret and its charter and any mention of its duties are still classified. However, it does have a Web site (www.nsa.gov:8080) in which it describes itself as being responsible for the signals intelligence and communications security activities of the US government. One of its bases, Menwith Hill, was to become the biggest spy station in the world. Its ears - known as radomes - are capable of listening in to vast chunks of the communications spectrum throughout Europe and the old Soviet Union. In its first decade the base sucked data from cables and microwave links running through a nearby Post Office tower, but the communications revolutions of the Seventies and Eighties gave the base a capability that even its architects could scarcely have been able to imagine. With the creation of Intelsat and digital telecommunications, Menwith and other stations developed the capability to eavesdrop on an extensive scale on fax, telex and voice messages. Then, with the development of the Internet, electronic mail and electronic commerce, the listening posts were able to increase their monitoring capability to eavesdrop on an unprecedented spectrum of personal and business communications. This activity has been all but ignored by the UK Parliament. When Labour MPs raised questions about the activities of the NSA, the Government invoked secrecy rules. It has been the same for 40 years. Glyn Ford hopes that his report may be the first step in a long road to more openness. "Some democratically elected body should surely have a right to know at some level. At the moment that's nowhere". See also in this week's issue: Pretty good Phil bounces back (a report on the consolidation of the reputation of Phil Zimmermann, creator of PGP). 14 October 1997: Europe's private parts to expand

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17 Dec '03

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Surprise - Anonymous Journalist Opposes Laundering [1/4]
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following series of posts is extracted from E-Communist. In this article the writer (but a mere cog in the Anonymous Entity known as GovernMedia NLC), exhibits the guVermin cheerleading so pervasive among those in his/her profession. In keeping with the spirit of anonymous advocacy favoring global fiscal tyranny, "our" collectivistic comments are in brackets as indicated: [S'n'S] Originally assigned the staid title 'Money Laundering', "we" have taken the indecent liberty of naming each post separately: Part 1 "Know Your Journalist" [1/4] [1/4] ... countries set up the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) [not to be confused with the BATF] in 1989. Based at the OECD [worthle$$ bureaucracy #2] in Paris, this now has 26 member countries, which are supposed to abide by its 40 recommendations. Among other things, these encourage mutual assistance in laundering cases. International co-operation is also being fostered by financial-intelligence units [FiUs], some of which recently set up a special computer network to swap information about laundering cases. A statistical black hole What effect has all this had? It is hard to tell for sure, but such evidence as looks reliable is hardly encouraging [discouraging]. A report published in 1995 by AUSTRAC, [worthle$$ bureaucracy #3] Australia's financial-intelligence unit, concluded that between A$1 billion and A$4.5 billion ($740m-3.3 billion) was washed through Australia each year. The report noted that if this figure is accurate, then Australian poLice were recouping [recouping?, proceeds of voluntary exchanges are considered stolen when in fact those doing the "recouping" are the criminals] barely 1% of all the ["]dirty["] money that they [_]guess[_] is flowing into [but not flowing out of? It must be all those "dirty" foreigners corrupting the innocent Aussie drug addicts and tax evaders] the country--a surprisingly low figure given that Australia is widely acknowledged to have one of the most comprehensive anti-laundering regimes in the world. [so AUSTRAC thugs are basing their conclusions on guesstimates, which, if as accurate as they kinda sorta think they might be indicates: Minions of the Australian FIU stole, that is, recouped, some 10-45mil AUD in cash and an unspecified amount of other property, but this is "barely 1%" of the _potential_ bounty to be had in the lucrative worldwide industry of asset forfeiture. Allow me to "guesstimate" a couple of other conclusions they may have made: 1) AUSTRAC lacks sufficient funding (AUSTRAC clerks still lack vacation slush funds). 2) AUSTRAC lacks sufficient personnel (AUSTRAC entry teams are still without APCs and close air support).] When it comes to prosecutions of money launderers, few countries keep reliable statistics, often because laundering was only recently deemed a separate ["]crime["]. One that does is the Netherlands. According to its justice ministry, in 1995 some 16,125 [subjectively] ["]suspect["] transactions were reported to the country's financial-intelligence [looting] unit. Only 14% of these were sufficiently dubious [read: juicy confiscatable assets of sufficient size coming to their attention due to amateurish operations that lacked political protection which made these "suspect" assets worth the time and effort to grab] to pass to the poLice, and only 0.5% of the original total led to prosecutions. [no mention of the % of cases that led to confiscations] Anecdotal evidence suggests a similar lack-of-["]success["] elsewhere. Why aren't more laundrymen being caught? [what about laundrywomen, the sexist pigs!] The answer, say those leading the fight against dirty [free] money, is that most anti-laundering regimes are still in their infancy. [yet to grow into the horrid monsters of their wet dreams] But, they say, at least the situation is improving. [deteriorating] Stanley Morris, FINCEN's [worthle$$ named bureaucracy #4] director [thug], says undercover operations in America show that launderers' fees have risen from around 6% of the money washed in the early 1980s, to 25-28% today. The explanation is that laundering is getting harder and riskier--and hence more expensive. Some experts also claim that a recent increase in the ["]smuggling["] of cash across borders is a sign that [gasp] more ["]criminal["] ["]loot["] is shunning banks. [meaning people are fed up with American banks, American regulators and America in general: "sell off, cash in and drop out".] There has also been some progress internationally. A few well-known haunts of launderers, such as Switzerland and the Cayman Islands, have made it easier for bankers to report ["]suspect["] transactions [reclaiming lost virginity] without breaking bank-secrecy laws, and for their financial gumshoes to co-operate with foreign ones. [meaning they already have so much money on deposit that it won't effect profits significantly, besides which, the typical lazy African dictators' first choice remains CH and those who are concerned about such matters have long since moved to greener pastures anyway...] In February, Antigua, another Caribbean haven, closed five out of six Russian offshore banks because of concerns that they had been laundering money for Russia's mafia. [no security through obscurity there] The FATF has also cracked down. [pun intended?] Last year, for the first time, it publicly upbraided one of its members, Turkey, for not introducing an anti-laundering law. [Turkey, a typical 3rd world pit, is too busy stealing from its citizens via hyperinflation to bother with passing pro-looting legislation.] And it gave banks a warning abot dealing with Seychelles after the government offered anyone placing $10m or more in certain investments immunity from prosecution [no STO there either]. The law containing this open invitation [more like comic relief] to crooked cash has since been shelved. > E-Communist > 25 St James's Street > London SW1A 1HG > www.economist.com Fly low S'n'S Pro:__Money Laundering__Self Medication__Militia Grade Arms__Realism________ __Indirect Taxation___________Adults___________Individual Irrevocable Right$ } Smurf N Sniff Non-Member, Gunfiscators of Canberra | } P.O. 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Re: your mail
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>On Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:54:41 -0700 (MST) Graham-John Bullers ><real(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> writes: >>On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Mix wrote: >> >>I think Vulis needs each of us to send ten copies of this back to him. > >I think so too what's his email address????? > > > >Anonymous304 Uh, you subscribe to the list but you can't find Vulis' address? Just how stupid are you?

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Anger Crimes Up 442% In Bay Area
by Bezerkeley Nutly News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Bezerkeley Nutly News: Special Report by Defcon McCullagh Chainsaw] AT AN EMERGENCY CYPHERPUNKS PHYSICAL MEETING AT THE W&S TAVERN AT 5 a.m. in south Berkeley this morning, a lone gunman held police at bay for several hours before escaping with a carton of cigarettes and several bottles of cheap scotch. While W&S Tavern owners explained to reportwhores that they had no plans to seek charges against the unknown gunman, since he used to be a regular customer and a good tipper, a police spokesperson told the same reportwhores, under promise of UnAnonymity, that they would be seeking the death penalty for the gunman, if caught, under the recent Criminal Emotions legislation passed last week by the Politically Correct Peephole's Party at a recent Bezerkeley City Council meeting. "Although the PCP leaders have only had time to train and deploy a few hundred volunteers trained to recognize the signs of the new Criminal Emotions," said Anonymous Badge #356, "it has already become apparent that Anger and Negative Attitude crimes are skyrocketing out of control in the Bay Area." "The physical gunshot wounds suffered by several officers tonight will heal, with time," the gender-neutral individual continued, in a monotone voice, "but the anger expressed toward them by the gunman will remain with them forever, or until the gunman apologizes, if caught." Several hundred Postal Workers have already been detained and sent for pschological testing in the Berkeley area under the strict new laws governing restriction of expressions of disgruntlement within 500 feet of a mailbox by federal postal employees. A US Postal Service spokesperson told reportwhores, "I'm certainly not happy about this..." and was immediately arrested and whisked away by a group of homeless people helping to enforce the new legislation in return for Bezerkeley City Council's promise to add shopping cart lanes next to the current bike lanes on city streets. A member of "The Disgruntled Postal Workers", a Tucson-based muscial group exempted from the new legislation under the "artistic license" provisions, said, as he went through the pockets of the dead fans who failed to escape during the climax of the performance, "I think the gunman at the W&S Tavern was a member of 'The Angry Young Men' who opened for us, so it is unlikely any charges can be laid in the incident, unless he actually smoked some of the cigarettes in the bar during the shooting spree." The owner of the W&S Tavern, when asked by reportwhores if he was unhappy with the damage done to the bar during the shootout, consulted briefly with his attorneys regarding the new Criminal Emotion laws in the Berkeley area, and replied, "No. I'm perfectly happy with the situation." A nearby Berkeley policeman immediately shot down the bar owner, saying, "He looked a little *too* happy, if you ask me." The attorneys merely shrugged as the man lay dying on the sidewalk, telling reportwhores, "The laws are clearly written not to allow deviation of emotionally legal expression too far in *any* direction, and we find that to be... uuhhh...acceptable." Every bar owner contacted by this reportwhore in regard to the new law prohbiting drinking, as well as smoking, in Bay Area bars, said that they were "cautiously optomistic" that their business would not suffer as a result of the legislation. "What we lose in volume, we can make up with lower overhead costs by not needing to stock any of the products we sell." said one bar owner as she placed a 'For Sale' sign in the front window.

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