December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

New key
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Some readers have suggested that my El Gamal key values were not chosen correctly. My previous key used a random large prime, but Schneier suggests choosing one with a guaranteed large prime factor ("Applied Cryptography", section 11.6). To correct that I offer a new El Gamal key which I will use for signing: p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g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y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his prime value has been chosen so that (p-1)/2 will also be prime. I will continue to use Cantsin Protocol No. 2 as before. It's good to see that others are beginning to develop tools to use this protocol. Suggestions for improvements continue to be welcomed. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm Subject: New key To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com 25BA1A9F5B9010DD8C752EDE887E9AF3 [Cantsin Protocol No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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Since crypto-anarchy & free-market economic anarchy both do away with > centralized authorities isn't this sort of behaviour what is *expected* of > members of the community under these systems? Doesn't the fact that there is > a clear and present danger to both person and community justify these sorts > of actions? > The concept of "Free-Market-Crypto-Anarchy" doesn't jibe with the "Lynch-Mob Democracy" mentality exhibited by Gates. One of the fundamental principles of anarchy is a willingness to let others hash out their own problems, i.e. I will ignore him unless his actions impact or affect me personally/financially. It is not as if the Gates were going to be affected by the "suspects"...they had to go out of their way to interfere with someone else's pursuit of happiness. That is clearly unacceptable. The last thing we need is a deputized citizenry...talk about a police state. (I guess that would be the ultimate form of the "Policeman Inside")

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Re: Singapore
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Mr. Frissell asserts that Germany lacks rights >such as freedom of speech and >association. >This is not true. >The German Basic Law provides for everyone the right to freedom of speech, >religion and association. >However, Germany prohibits hate speech i.e. National Socialism and >incitement to racial, religious and national hatred. >The reason for this exception is the German history. And thus there is no true freedom of speech and such in Germany. I can either say "Fuck the Jews" or I can't. I can either say "Bill Gates can blow me" or I can't. I can either post naked pictures of myself or I can't. (And yes, this means that there is no true freedom of speech and such in the United States either.) Nice try.

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No Subject
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think Vulis needs each of us to send ten copies of this back to him. >Tim Mayo's abysmal grammar, atrocious spelling and >feeble responses clearly identify him as a product of >the American education system. > _ > / ' > | > /><oo><\ Tim Mayo > //[ `' ]\\

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Re: It's Sunday...
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----Begin Forward Message----- From: Linda Reed <lreed(a)igate.iscg.pima.gov> Organization: pima county Hi, CJ -- Thanx for cheering me up on a MONday mornin' -- and for your bits of worldly wisdom. Every once in a while, in between the gross sexual/political bashings and overstatement of the not-so-obvious, I can glean some truthful observation on the world at large--something to at least spark my brain (which it badly needs today). Thanx for the warning. People DO ask about you from time-to-time, especially Bob & Kid Squidd--who both seem to be doing OK--and others, who breathe a sigh of relief when I tell them you're still out of the country ;) I have one more month of probation at my new job with the county--the thing is they want me to come in every day--and at the right time! Still struggling with that part--in the mean time getting all their programs and screens to hold onto a 4-digit year in preparation for the Year-2000. I've talked to several people who are making lots of money convincing everyone to pay them to revamp for the inevitability of the century change--who also plan to retire some time before it hits (and remain out-of-touch in case the revamping fails for any reason). I'm having T-shirts made for LL & the Driffters for Xmas--special green & red colors--shall I mail you one? to what address? We're still driffting around--looks like I'll have to actually pay for studio time and an engineer early in the year to get a recording done--want to come sing in background on "It's A Long Way to My Heart"? Here's wishing you a Merry one from a girl who's been both naughty and nice -- Linda Lou ;) -----End Forward Message-----

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Red-necks w/ a purpose...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 03:54:05 -0500 > From: Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> Why does your remailer strip the subject header? > > Since crypto-anarchy & free-market economic anarchy both do away with > > centralized authorities isn't this sort of behaviour what is *expected* of > > members of the community under these systems? Doesn't the fact that there is > > a clear and present danger to both person and community justify these sorts > > of actions? > > > > The concept of "Free-Market-Crypto-Anarchy" doesn't jibe with the > "Lynch-Mob Democracy" mentality exhibited by Gates. What has this to do with a couple of rednecks stopping an alleged criminal out of the goodness of their hearts? Further, what exactly are you talking about in reference to Gates? Yes, he is rich but what specificaly are you referning to in regards to his mentality and lynch-mob democracies? All government or social systems resort to lynch-mod mentatility without some sort of bill of rights or other explicit restrainer on the system. Even free-market-crypto-anarchy will devolve to this. Why do supports of free-market-crypto-anarchy ignore issues regarding excesses of their beloved systems and what kinds of checks-and-balances need to be implimented to resolve those issues? Are you really going to claim that under free-market-crypto-anarchy we have finaly found angels in the forms of men? Is your claim that had there been a free-market-cryto-anarchy these people would not have committed the crime in the first place and hence the police and the rednecks could have stayed home? Is free-market-crypto-anarchy the final solution in human conflict resolution? > One of the > fundamental principles of anarchy is a willingness to let others hash > out their own problems, i.e. I will ignore him unless his actions > impact or affect me personally/financially. This is a tenet of democracy as well. However, am I to interpret your statement to mean that no, these rednecks were out of line? If so, my question still stands. With no centralized authority of any sort and by extension no centralized police force whose job is it to stop criminals? Under a free-market-crypto-anarchy exactly how does the peace-keeping process work? > It is not as if the Gates were going to be affected by the > "suspects"...they had to go out of their way to interfere with someone > else's pursuit of happiness. That is clearly unacceptable. The last > thing we need is a deputized citizenry...talk about a police state. > (I guess that would be the ultimate form of the "Policeman Inside") If there were no police force I am sure Gates with all his money would be on the top of a lot of hit lists - just too juicy a target to pass up. The police we have now are deputized citizens. *That* happens to be one of the safety checks. What is your point? ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | | We built your fort. We will not have it used against us. | | | | John Wayne - Allegheny Uprising | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Cato forum tomorrow: should money laundering be a crime?
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Steve Schear wrote: >This topic, of course, is near the top of many libertarian e-commerce >agendas. Almost every mainstream news article and regulatory report repeats >the littany that Money Laundering, that is the movement of money to disguise >it origin (even if there are no predicate offenses) must remain illegal >because it damages or is a threat to the world banking and financial system >(not just the tax take of governments), but I have yet to see any >explanation of how and why. Anyone care to comment? Might be a bit of a stretch, but I think this is because money today is inherently a liability, that is a debt that someone, somewhere has promised to pay back. Such is the nature of fractional reserve banking and debt-based currencies under which the international financial system functions. Thus if the origin of the money (the indebted party) is obscured, it becomes increasingly difficult to manage the quality of the world's money supply. After all, how can the issuer of the money collect on the debt that ultimately backs it when the issuer has no idea who to collect the debt from? Take away the ability to manage debt effectively and the issuer's money quickly becomes worthless (be it a commercial bank issuing deposit currency as a loan to its customers or a government's central bank issuing cash currency to its citizens based on a debt placed upon future generations of citizens). A money's value is measured by the quality of debt backing it. If the debt is defaulted on (whether through obscurity, Chapter 11, etcetera), the money loses value, which in turn can have negative systemic repercussions throughout the world's financial markets. The recent Asian currency devaluations (South Korea in particular) and the accompanying financial woes are a good example of what happens when the debt quality of money devalues. Nerthus - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 mQGiBDR6Du8RBAD/Atm9StFSTuaNTOtM0wH+BsKQcU8sB6kykqiRsCdfeoPdI2cW TifPTIFFJuSRb9JCda6OQcafloXeAN9nbE+GweDQGk9qQ3egsukPXZ1QLaZhx8Y0 bbbs1EKyNMIpPK0JyFycC+ehKbOVNnB+LlcofROS6C2BqxV6jV2bTh4/OwCg/3RA +J+IBZKJ+t8SrkePekrr8VkD+gMrK6wghoYjPJjve4GFNtIclbltnaxPvNblt3Gn TS+AKXRXvRvtqlbh6nkOzJZCGgDl5S4Sl9ugQZm4Dnhv1wJJptw1VaNIvx4vJh5k 0Ehv0QqLyyJLM1qkb+qSm726fj7x2VMUDz1B2J8BZnRSeyX7Owv96l2hbfhsWOSL kTzsA/47BVqGxA5aQhvXSuD6OuvzAsSNZUUL2pnyYmCkX/DrGzG1BDgb9AdUPbql s138nr/yLjBXwbbZnrqVLLBn9mVfqQZL1HB9MgKFaCT8Pi2Q/EpyM5kN/sMkA/c/ nmk6JVHvPyCdLwJLA0r5iKHyPbZyPbc6C1FfXD9V92O3dhvCw7QjTmVydGh1cyA8 Y3lwaGVycHVua3NAY3liZXJwYXNzLm5ldD6JAEsEEBECAAsFAjR6Du8ECwMBAgAK CRAWtXd85uJ6jrcdAJ0bB92r7CriqXzXAmPC5ldE0VftWACgoiV33M0m6V3L0OsV CFPIMuVS3oaJARUDBRA0eg8e4VbBl7TmNwkBAQXECACjSwCnkSP9Dv06s0HMLvT9 DwjXryxvx+oMgO6CjHe5eHmLpyNDMTuhnZYByr/DU9iWAEvAYJncAl7/o7e8OcU/ vrzU2hAcjS9yaKN/Q1ltZAhg01hLhadlxvclaxuHVZ/TaO+ci5Ew1d7wzMPBWUyE jBDHVN4902pTBaPpGqBV3yGYg5I403L9+bB8qD1Od8ALr83ha/mF6MRYV4m0Qar+ GHs6wwH3Zi+gAQMUVkC1rvJKoGicHBL7Ky+NmdydCTi4IBpiIalsdOVAF6aNkRI6 q41hmNYevzmjsk4KWQdCi+FWKj1f+soxyGPK4/lkQk17EWpdYR63+GpU88ecmrBy uQENBDR6Dv0QBADYL1ossXAnUFX3NgVrEg4BvRr8wyhrRrddBKI9XE8vLNdHoci1 7Xtor82Fr3kyBTx/6jW2HIkuFe1PPaJqjoXfxMQc/e5xbG3Sc65VgxUqY369rc0X yPWXnkDgGaeLJfMP6YEFWqOwyGGSkySKaiQrZXJdPnudjAhB4Aq4W/ZC4QACAgP/ UmOxIbdm014V8jSZHDpMCvHX69xMcKxk6pofza4fM+NN6wZLrUA9+us6JKMxq3j/ tSBX4M/VwhmtXdn27lbrR4blwQM/u0jGgqk3qAwEXiv2TweYCpWtfuEjbmv9LKpC um/6Sh/KhlNGoyxm6eEOTG3hSH6rKiCTACbtuotDQhKJAD8DBRg0eg79FrV3fObi eo4RAqt/AJ9qf0ixg3olUg2kYJEbmHMVzx+6EwCcC91whsrTD2nsNdCUkzhc333R Aoo= =aekz - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNIiUkxa1d3zm4nqOEQLaYQCcDRU9qkloaPTshE3coevIIdDxlXQAnjVx fcCqzFIilN8K6KLj346uJkCP =0xDo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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17 Dec '03

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Complete package for Cantsin Protocol No. 2
by Steffen Zahn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello, I have put together a package for Cantsin 2 Signatures, to generate the keys, sign documents and check signatures. Prerequisites are: perl Version 5 libgmp Version 2.* a C compiler currently /dev/random for generation of keys and signatures precompiled binaries are provided for Linux-ELF (libc-5.*), if you have that you don't need libgmp. Pick it up from http://www.snafu.de/~zahn/cantsin.tar.gz (70 KByte) Regards Steffen (p,g,y,name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teffen Zahn (Key1) -- home email: user@domain where domain=berlin.snafu.de, user=zahn Use of my address for unsolicited commercial advertising is forbidden. "Where do you want to crash today?" 25BA1A9F5B9010DD8C752EDE887E9AF3 [Cantsin Protocol No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