December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

MSNBC on Crypto End Run
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.msnbc.com/news/46551.asp "Scaling the encryption-policy wall: Companies make end run around U.S. restrictions on cryptography" A good report on why US companies are going overseas for strong crypto. With numerous crypto links. "It's a huge gaping hole in the efforts to control strong cryptography, and it's going to get bigger," says Douglas Barnes, vice president of Oakland, Calif.-based C2Net Software, a privately held company at the forefront of those circumventing the U.S. policy. ----- We've mirrored it at: http://jya.com/endrun.htm

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Computer Programs as Text
by Peter D. Junger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I wrote a little article on Understanding Computers and the Law for my class in Computers and the Law. The major theme of this article is the importance of distinguishing between computer programs as text and computer programs as functional processes. That theme is also a central issue in the suit that I am bringing to enjoin the enforcement of the cryptographic portions of the ITAR as they apply to software. I intend to expand the article and ultmately submit it for publication in a law journal but in the meantime I have posted an html version on my web server. The URL is <http://samsara.law.cwru.edu/comp_law/why1.html>. This draft need considerably more work on the last two sections (and I have to include the illustrations, which are a couple of pictures from Alice in Wonderland). But I am making it availabele in this pre-publication form because it may have some insights that some of you might find interesting and because I am interested in your reactions and insights. I especially would like to hear from real programmers who view their programs as ``works of authorship'' (and from those who don't). That is not only important as an academic matter; if we can get the courts to recognize that programs as written and communicated are texts much like other texts, it will be difficult to deny them the full protection of the first amendment. Ciao, Peter -- Peter D. Junger--Case Western Reserve University Law School--Cleveland, OH Internet: junger(a)pdj2-ra.f-remote.cwru.edu junger(a)samsara.law.cwru.edu URL: http://samsara.law.cwru.edu

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[books for children's hospitals
by Wes Brown 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

excellent idea ! Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:27:19 -0800 (PST) >From: Dave Kinchlea <security(a)kinch.ark.com> >To: all(a)ami.lhsc.on.ca, everyone(a)heartlab.rri.uwo.ca, family(a)kinch.ark.com, > friends(a)kinch.ark.com >Subject: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: (Fwd) Books for Children's Hospitals (fwd) > >I have verified myself that this is true, seems worth taking the time. >While I fully expect to get some junk mail because of sending off a >message, seems a small price to pay to provide a book to a child. > >cheers, kinch > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:56:49 -0800 >From: "James A. Tunnicliffe" <Tunny(a)inference.com> >To: "'cypherpunks(a)toad.com'" <cypherpunks(a)toad.com>, > "'pjb(a)ny.ubs.com'" <pjb(a)ny.ubs.com> >Subject: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: (Fwd) Books for Children's Hospitals > >>Paul writes: >>i know that this is WAY off topic, and that we never post off-topic mail >>here, >>but, this seems worthwhile, so please excuse, (maybe flames for off-topic >>posts >>will count ) >> >>cheers, >> -paul >>>"The Houghton-Mifflin publishing co. is giving books to children's >>>hospitals; how many books they give depends on how many emails they >>>receive from people around the world. for every 25 emails they receive, >>>they give one book--it seems like a great way to help a good cause. >>> >>>All that you have to do is email share(a)hmco.com. >>> >>>I hope that you can spare the seconds...and let your friends know. So far >>>they only have 3,401 messages...last year they reached 23,000. >>> >>>This seems like an easy and simple thing to do -- please take the time!" > >My "urban legend detector" pegged when I saw this, but it turns out >to be on the level. See http://www.hmco.com/hmco/trade/hmi/polar/ >for more info. > >Tunny >====================================================================== > James A. Tunnicliffe | WWWeb: http://www.inference.com/~tunny > Inference Corporation | PGP Fingerprint: CA 23 E2 F3 AC 2D 0C 77 > tunny(a)Inference.com | 36 07 D9 33 3D 32 53 9C >====================================================================== > >

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virus from fuck@yourself.up
by n.adao＠student.iag.ucl.ac.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I send an e-mail to fuck(a)yourself.up but i receive the message:host unknown. Could someone explain that to me please. P.S.: maybe I'm a beginner but I did't used the virus. You really must ve very stupid to unattach a .com file from a mail sent by "fuck(a)youself.up" --------------------------------------------------------- ADAO-CRUZ Nuno 11, rue du Paradis 1348 Louvain La Neuve ----BELGIUM--------- (010) 45 39 98 Business Student at the UCL University ---------------------------------------------------------

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Re: The virus I got...
by reece＠taz.nceye.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From jwest(a)eskimo.com Wed Dec 18 11:10:10 1996 Delivered-To: reece(a)taz.nceye.net Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 03:10:43 -0800 From: John H West <jwest(a)eskimo.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, Bryan Reece <reece(a)taz.nceye.net>, Vincent Padua <vincent(a)psnw.com> Subject: Re: The virus I got... References: <19961218025949.23374.qmail(a)taz.nceye.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Reece wrote: > > There was an e-mail sent to the list that had attached to it a virus. Well > lucky me I got. It was a .com file that apparently turns your files into > directories. I can't boot into Win95 since it turned my HIMEM.SYS into a > directory. So, I seem to have fixed that, but now it says "access denied" > and then prompts me with C:\>. Did anyone else get it? Has anyone heard > or fixed this virus? > > Yes. It's a deadly mutation of the GOOD TIMES virus. > > (People actually go to the trouble of stripping off the leading crap > from the uuencoded part and then *run a program* from someone called > Fuck(a)yourself.up? Furrfu.) from CIAC, http://www-gsb.uchicago.edu/comp_svcs/hoax.html Seen it. Guess I should have either ended the GOOD TIMES sentence with `!!@!@##$!#$' or appended a `:)' or something. b `Jokes taken seriously' r

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REMOVE
by Juliet Travis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: The virus I got...
by jlucas4＠capital.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone keep a copy of that file? I deleted mine before I had a chance to save save it. Please send. jlucas4(a)capital.edu

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[Contact Information]
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'll be off the list for a time. I am going to be traveling where there are no net connections to be had so I am unsubscribing to keep the mail box to a sane level. E-mail will be held, but not read for some time. -- Forward complaints to : European Association of Envelope Manufactures Finger for Public Key Gutenbergstrasse 21;Postfach;CH-3001;Bern Vote Monarchist Switzerland

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Cypherpunks as Philosopher Kings [was permanent invasion of privacy]
by attila＠primenet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Currently, I am not sure what the charter of cypherpunks really stands for, if anything. As it stands, the list has a far more erudite group than the list it probably should be. certainly more privacy and social engineering issues resulting from the deprivation of privacy than code. I don't believe Cypherpunks was ever intended to be a technical forum; I was not on for the first few months so I missed the formative discussions of the elitist few, most of whom, other than founder tcmay, have left for greener pastures. In the beginning years, there was a substantial amount of crypto code, etc. passed around and argued. However, the few of us who do code, do not generate enough messages relating to code to warrant a list; therefore the passionate interests which travel as coders' baggage seem to explode and others, some technically competent and some not, join the list and the circus goes on. Frankly, I have hired and "mind-fucked" (pardon my french, for lack of a more descriptive expression) scores of hacker grade philosophers. That is exactly where it runs: they are philosophers first and creative coders second. As to their knowledge of philo- sophy, and the direction of their creative talents to a logical and usable conclusion, they score a fat zero as by and large they are geeks and idealistic social nerds. --hence the need for subtle background manipulation to make these philosopher-coders think your design is actually their great philosophic-coder design. Yes, and _never_ assign two of them to the same compartment: the code never works --absolutely will not share tasks. Common interface boundaries? No problem for their minds, but too creatively selfish to code associative modules. For that reason alone, I hold C++ in contempt: a black box that is _supposed_to_ to look for 'this' and give you 'that.' C++ is an ignorant managers ultimate wet dream: "reusable code containers for disposable programmers." For some reason, Bjorn elucidated a strenuous objection to my statement. <g> For what it's worth, the above is my perception of cypherpunks: an interesting collection of philosopher kings, some of whom are putting their convictions to the means of thwarting the common enemy. It is no accident most subscribers, and certainly all the doers, are anti-government with a preference for social anarchy, the anarchy tempered by some level of realization that the mass of humanity can not govern itself in a society which is inherently evil. However, if the Libertarian Party can not field a better candidate than Harry Brown, anarchy, or a premature dictatorship, it will be. The US is in the last laugh of the oligarchy at this point in time. In <1.5.4.32.19961218084853.005de95c(a)popd.ix.netcom.com>, on 12/18/96 at 12:48 AM, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com said: ::Attila wrote, :: symposium were Dr. Jack C. Westman of the University of :: Wisconsin-Madison, author of "Licensing Parents: Can We :: Prevent Child Abuse and Neglect?" and Professor David T. :: Lykken of the University of Minnesota, author of "The :: Antisocial Personalities." Westman and Lykken are the :: most prominent advocates of a system of parental :: licensure in which parents would have to be certified :: "competent" by the government before being permitted to :: raise a child. :: ::and blanc wrote :: Someone needs to remind this Senator Lykken what happened in Romania, :: when the beleaguered citizen-units finally took their 'noble', social :: engineering leader Ceausescu, put him up against a wall and :: shot him. :: I do not believe they gave him the benefit (?) of the wall. Ceausescu, like all "communist" dictators of this century, was just that: a dictator falsely claiming to be the 'Great Father' who will right all the wrongs, put too many chickens in each pot, and generally hold your hand while his local version of the Gestapo permanently eliminates dissent. It appears to works until the state has drained the natural and human resources of value, further accelerated by corruption and the increasing apathy of the people who no longer produce more than a subsistence living at best. ::Fortunately, Lykken appears to just be a professor, not a legislator, ::so he can spend your money but can't tell you what to do. ::He's obviously also a subject of his book...... out of curiosity I was poking around a bit; he apparently has legislative backers. I would be surprised if the bill made it out a subcommittee hearing. however, his theory melds nicely with the intentions of superbitch; there is no doubt in my perception of her '...Village' --superbitch is heading for the nursery of "Logan's Run" and the surrogate nanny super-machines. --35+ years ago the book? I did not see the movie which may or may not have been able to deal with the concept of enforced euthanasia at age 21. Super- bitch must have seen the movie too many times, or slept with the book in her early pubescent dreams. ::Before we go licensing parents, we ought to license people who ::want to be Big Brothers...... License them? Why license them before we hang them? ::[This didn't seem to be cypherpunks material any more...] Actually, it is: invasion of privacy; no secure communica- tions, and all the other falderol. - -- I'll get a life when it is proven and substantiated to be better than what I am currently experiencing. --attila -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: Encrypted with 2.6.3i. Requires 2.6 or later. iQCVAwUBMrgsD704kQrCC2kFAQH53gQAomp4242ItlDhZpLijYtsyrq/ZQNFRljs GRxBjNJeKX2FgId9B5LOg+nhSQ2WUI8m26km8Qlo2pnqjJVDa+aSCJg70ljHqBrT vDKBx/IHX9LeJGgFsjUBz//qJvclwt2Amk678/vm72c8yXF1nECc8d2JaFPDbrXB BC2r6AkTN9s= =sbYD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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17 Dec '03

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