December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Democracy...
by Richard.Bragg＠ssa.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

mmotyka(a)lsil.com on 16/09/98 20:02:22 Please respond to mmotyka(a)lsil.com To: Richard Bragg/UK/SSA_EUROPE cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: Democracy... >> However, if you believe in something to be life changing and >> beneficial to both the >individual and society you'll want or be >> compelled to "pass it on". > >Altruistic on the surface. Regarding religion though, why do I always >get the feeling that when implemented and empowered it is judgemental >and intolerant of those who do not fall properly in line? > Because religion is dead. It is a set of man made rules interpreting what God has said. I do not want to live in a "religious" society any more than you do. Theocracy (rule by the church, small "c") is never a good idea. Deocracy??? (rule by God) is. God has already given us His instructions for healthy life and society. Most of our laws are based on them but we keep weakening them to account for our own failings and desires. >> What I wanted to illustrate is that there are absolutes, to say there >> are no obsolutes is in itself an absolute and so is self defeating. > >All right Mr. Logic, you're so sharp, give me ONE example of a *moral* >absolute. > It is wrong to abuse children. I reckon this is built in to just about all of us. It is in our nature to protect and defend our children. No matter where your are in the world this applies. Our differing cultures make some things acceptable to one and not to others but the underlying nature is still there. Also we may differ how we accomplish this. >> We must have absolutes. >> >We do: speed of light, mass of the electron, probably, but behavior? We >have behaviors that facilitate our persistance and propagation as a >species at ever increasing densities. Operating outside the boundaries >is neither right nor wrong, simply different. Not necessarily without >consequences, but simply different. Your yardstick is an hallucination >to which you cling to forlornly like a kitten clinging to a stick in a >raging river. > >Mike > >ps - is 'forlornly' really a word? I think so, but it looks odd today. Actually the speed of light varies depending on the medium and the mass of an electron with its velocity. You may deride my absolutes but if applied by all we would have no crime, no divorce etc. Boring?? Not really. Many diseases and social problems would cease or be reduced.

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PGP
by Bernardo B. Terrado 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could you send me the source code of the most recent PGP. (for Unix) My server is very slow like a turtle. I don't mind if it's large. Could you please. Thank you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some people they might say that I'm hard to get to know. I go my own sweet way, well that maybe so. Something about the crowd that makes me walk alone. I never had a need in me to be the party's life and soul. It's me Bernie. metaphone(a)altavista.net ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

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Re: Child-Molesting Forger's Chilling Confession!!!1!
by Wolfgang Diemert 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

application/www-form-urlencoded

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No Subject
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

looking around on various crypto sites I can't find any hashes ported to dos/win that are already compiled is anyone out there aware of a place with a copy o MD5 or SHA1 and my second question, I was also curious about PGP. In the latest version (cyberknights build) You can use 8kbits DH key or a 16Kbits RSA key, In my reasoning I would think that since DH was out before RSA and RSA was chosen for the first releases of PGP why switch to DH now, if it was better why not start out using that?

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IRS Spam on CJ
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is a follow-up to the IRS Jim Bell spam last year, the IRS troll on CNN recently and other provocations. Anybody get IRS or other spam/troll about CJ? If so, we'd like to see the message with full headers (ID omitted if you like). Post here or send privately. Anon okay, probably best. We'll share what we get. If PGP preferred use the latest PK on the servers for <jya(a)pipeline.com>, or any of the older ones. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBNgDz7YNEX855Nu9gEQIVcgCfRebUik5OdC0JDOZC0U7/C815I3cAniER uOjU/6mmkkO/edw80+qMKnN8 =xEON -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Beste Megan
by sixdegrees 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Catchy.
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:51:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: qnx.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Subject: Catchy. Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:34:49 -0400 From: glen mccready <glen(a)qnx.com> Resent-From: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org X-Mailing-List: <0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org> archive/latest/194 X-Loop: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: 0xdeadbeef-request(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Forwarded-by: nev(a)bostic.com Forwarded-by: Kirk McKusick <mckusick(a)McKusick.COM> From: Rick Kawala <condor(a)QueerNet.ORG> I was with a friend in Cafe Flore the other night and I had to ask the counterperson what was playing on the stereo. Sort of techno but with vocals on some tracks, minorish key, really great. Anyway, the CD arrived and track 10 is called "PGP". And yes, they're talking about *that* PGP. My God, an ode to data privacy. This computer thing is getting out of hand. :) Rick --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Industry.net Announces Premium Membership
by Industry.net News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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British Police Attempt To Sidestep E-mail Protection
by Marty Levy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

British Police Attempt To Sidestep E-mail Protection http://www.newsbytes.com/pubNews/118135.html (09/16/98); 12:22 PM CST By Steve Gold, Newsbytes LONDON, ENGLAND, Steve Gold, Newsbytes. Newsbytes' sources have revealed that the Metropolitan Police have been holding a series of low-key discussions with major Internet service providers (ISPs) in the UK, aiming to streamline police access to e-mail and ISP user logs. According to one reliable source, the aim of the discussions is to develop a ground-breaking agreement between the police and ISPs so that, where the police have reasonable suspicion that an individual is sending or receiving e-mail, or downloading images that involve paedophilia, then they can formally request full details of the Internet user's mailbox and system logs, for example, from the ISP in question. While the aim of the project is to avoid the need for police to obtain a formal court order to access the ISP's computer systems, Newsbytes expects there to be a massive outcry from civil libertarian groups, since the police order could well be implemented against anyone with an account with a British ISP. Newsbytes understands that an expose on the police plans will be broadcast on Channel 4 news at 19:00 hours on British television this evening. Newsbytes' sources suggest that British ISPs are under immense pressure to comply with the police system since, if they do not comply and request a court order, the police could theoretically impound their computer systems, effectively putting an ISP out of action, and perhaps business, for an unknown period of time. "While I can understand the police wanting to gain access to Internet users' files who are accessing the Net for paedophile images, this does seem something of a steamroller approach," said one industry source who spoke to Newsbytes after agreeing anonymity. Newsbytes notes that a major flaw exists in the British police's modus operandi for the proposed system, since the e-mail file servers for America Online (AOL) and CompuServe (AOL is the UK's largest ISP) are held in the US. Only the company's sales and support operations are located in the UK. "It will be interesting to see how the management of AOL and CompuServe in the US react to the news that they have to willingly hand over user logs and e-mail files to the British police," said the anonymous source. As has been proven by various cases in the US, the normal legal protection afforded postal and telephone communications by anti- wiretap legislation is not automatically extended to include e-mail. In the UK, it had been thought that the Interception of Communications Act might apply to e-mail, but the law relating to e-mail remains unproven, Newsbytes notes. Reported by Newsbytes News Network, http://www.newsbytes.com . 12:22 CST (19980916/WIRES LEGAL, ONLINE/) Copyright (c) Post-Newsweek Business Information, Inc. All rights reserved. -----------------------------------------------------------

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CDA II up for subcommittee vote today in House
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: CDA II up for subcommittee vote today in House http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/0,2326,201980917-14617,00.html Time Digital Daily September 17, 1998 Congress to Debate CDA II This Morning By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)well.com) It was one thing to vote for the Communications Decency Act, as Congress did before the Supreme Court ruled that it was violently unconstitutional. It's quite another to knowingly circumvent that ruling by voting for its successor, as a Congressional panel may do this morning. At 10 AM this morning a House Commerce subcommittee is scheduled to debate Rep. Mike Oxley (R-Ohio)'s CDA II, and free speech advocates are in a tizzy. [...snip...]

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