December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

BOOST YOUR WEB SITE'S TRAFFIC--GET LISTED ON YAHOO!
by trgz941＠netscape.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: A question about the new ISP ruling and email...
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:29 PM 11/7/98 GMT, phelix(a)vallnet.com wrote: >Is an anymous remailer needs to register, what will the implications be? Armbands next, bubby.

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Re: Advertising Creepiness
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Sat Nov 7 16:04:32 1998 > To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com, cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > Subject: IP: Re: A question about the new ISP ruling and email... > Cc: believer(a)telepath.com > > Now *this* should be fun. Someone who claims to be a cypherpunk is now > going to call the copyright police on a non-profit, volunteer news list. Would you like to know whether it is "fair use" to repost entire articles? I would. > When the going gets tough, the "tough" rat out the innocent, it appears... "Innocent" is hardly an accurate description of Michele Moore. Would you like Information Security to cough up more color on his netcopping move? Hey, you ratted me out to the IP list! ;-) ---- > From: Steve Mynott <stevem(a)tightrope.demon.co.uk> > Subject: Re: Advertising Creepiness > > On Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 11:50:05PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > > > Myself, I try to mostly just snip out a few paragraphs of a story and > > comment on them, fair use and all. > > > > My guess is that nearly all of us skip this junk > > completely, and I think marketing studies will someday confirm this. > > Click through rates are something like 2%, so most are screening them out. > I rarely noticed what the ads actually said. > > > (Yes, I tried the utilities which purport to flush banner ads, but they > > didn't work well (long delays, cruftiness).) > > I don't know which ones you have tried but junkbuster > > http://www.junkbuster.org/ (a proxy on port 8000) > > works _very_ well on my linux system, particularly with the "blank gif" > patch. > > It blanks out 99% of banner gifs, which makes pages like metacrawler and > wired look more visually attractive and load faster. But, when sites get smarter about using server-side includes, the I/O delays will still be there. I think ISPs should offer a proxy service for WWW access. They have bigger pipes. This could include an opt-in (configure through an ISP-local WWW page) adbuster. At the same time, it would to a certain extent anonymize access. And let's say cable-modem access becomes wide-spread, and legislation forces the cable companies to allow ISP choice. I think ISPs that offer some privacy in user access over this shared medium will have a leg-up on their competition. That would involve software residing local to the user's box that would encrypt access between them and the ISP for WWW, email, ftp, etc. More than just ssh. Hey, then you would finally have ads that make clear what encryption is for the average user: picture two neighbors going to work in the morning meeting in the elevator, and one starts hinting he knows what the other was receiving for email, which sites he was surfing... Maybe the Anonymizer.com people will release/sell such software for ISPs, and, of course, sans GAK. ---guy

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RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone > (fwd) > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:39:33 -0800 > > You missed my point. What I'm trying to point out is that no > > government (or any other body, for that matter) can prevent > > someone from doing something. All the state can do (and does, > > if you look closely) is offer to punish anyone who disobeys it. > > Again that is simply incorrect, or do you wish to tell me that our military > has not prevented the invasion of the continental US in this century, or > that it did not prevent the Soviet Union from expanding across Europe? You > cannot completely discount *deterrent force*, although it is greatly > overrated. Woah. This extension into foreign powers and such is an entirely different venue. The entire discussion is based around the question of a government and those citizens within it. When we start talking about multiple government and multiple citizen sets the whole issue is orders of magnitude more complex. > Nor can a government use *retribution force* if it does not know the > perpetrator. Tell that to the hostages that were killed during the occupation of France. > Your statement boils down to the government is not omnipotent. Well duh! Agreed. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: dbts: Privacy Fetishes, Perfect Competition, and the Foregone (fwd)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> You missed my point. What I'm trying to point out is that no > government (or any other body, for that matter) can prevent > someone from doing something. All the state can do (and does, > if you look closely) is offer to punish anyone who disobeys it. Again that is simply incorrect, or do you wish to tell me that our military has not prevented the invasion of the continental US in this century, or that it did not prevent the Soviet Union from expanding across Europe? You cannot completely discount *deterrent force*, although it is greatly overrated. Nor can a government use *retribution force* if it does not know the perpetrator. Your statement boils down to the government is not omnipotent. Well duh! Matt

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Attract men and/or women
by swedegirl＠tracor-es.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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test5
by Igor Chudov 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Advertising Creepiness
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> > Subject: Re: Advertising Creepiness > > Something that came across our Reuters feed over the weekend is a lawsuit > by the whitehouse.com folks -- they're pissed that a new version of > Netscape has some "intelligent" guessing features that, when someone types > in "whitehouse," automatically take 'em to whitehouse.gov. > > Which interferes with the rights of the whitehouse.com porn site, or so the > argument goes. At least it doesn't cost $40 million to get porn from whitehouse.com. Sounds like a pro-consumer move to me. ;-) > At 12:59 PM 11-8-98 -0500, Information Security wrote: > > > From owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Sat Nov 7 16:04:32 1998 > > > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > > > > > > Now *this* should be fun. Someone who claims to be a cypherpunk is now > > > going to call the copyright police on a non-profit, volunteer news list. > > > >Would you like to know whether it is "fair use" to repost entire articles? > > > >I would. > > > > > When the going gets tough, the "tough" rat out the innocent... > > > >"Innocent" is hardly an accurate description of Michele Moore. > > > >Would you like Information Security to cough up more > >color on his netcopping move? > From declan(a)well.com Sun Nov 8 20:15:48 1998 > > Whether you love or hate current copyright laws, it's a stretch to argue > that it's legal to republish (by forwarding) articles in full. > > Willfully redistributing copyrighted material in violation of fair use > principles is, depending on the value, also a federal crime. Redistributing > a $1 article to thousands of people would be a felony. (Note I don't > endorse this law, but it's useful to know what the law is.) I guess that qualifies as a request for more color. In the local Panix Usenet groups, I've reposted quite a few whole articles, often from the IP list. Finally, a couple people made a stink, and officially complained to Panix. Carl Fink <carlf(a)panix.com> wrote: : On 11 Sep 1998 23:54:58 GMT, Information Security <The(a)NSA.sucks> wrote: : Okay, I've been tolerating this for a long time, but: this is a : violation of both Federal and international law. Post URLs, not articles. My inelegant response: Eat me. The local posters kept applying pressure: : But beyond whatever legal consequences this may entail for you : personally, I wonder what consequences it could conceivably entail for : panix. Posting copyrighted material to general Usenet newsgroups is : one thing -- panix's staff could reasonably claim that they cannot : monitor or filter every Usenet newsgroup. But they could not : reasonably make that argument about the local panix newsgroups. The thread grew full of legal claims, and Panix consulted with lawyers. In the following post by the owner of Panix, the references to "sections 1,3,4" are from the IP list's fair use declaration URL http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml # Path: news.panix.com!not-for-mail # From: alexis(a)panix.com (Alexis Rosen) # Newsgroups: panix.announce,panix.policy,panix.chat,panix.questions # Subject: Determination on copyright issue # Date: 17 Sep 1998 11:28:27 GMT # Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC # # # This message is in response to the discussion/flamewar in several groups # over the posting of copyrighted material by guy(a)panix.com. Please read it, # think about it, read it again, and think again before posting in response. # This is a pretty nasty subject. # # In the wake of the postings and complaints to staff about guy's postings, # I consulted with two lawyers about this issue. One was a BLM, and the other # is a BLM and RIPE too. (Those are extremely technical acronyms for Brilliant # Legal Mind and Recognized Intellectual Property Expert. :-) # # [snip] # # I'm not going to go into the details much, because IANAL. But in short, # here's the answer: Fair use is a VERY fuzzily-defined concept, not in # principle where it's stated clearly in the law (as quoted here several # times recently), but in practice, where the courts try to interpret it. # Guy's claim for fair use could easily be correct, according to the BLMs, # because it may well qualify under sections 1, 3, and 4. I didn't think # so, but then again, I'm not a BLM, much less a RIPE. It would be a truly # terrible idea for us to take action, given the reasonable possibility that # there is no violation. # # It was also pointed out to me that Panix can not act against Guy's posts # without threatening its own position in any future case that might hinge # on whether Panix were an Editor of panix group contents. This might or # might not be the case were someone to start posting large quantities of # commercial software, but the two cases aren't similar, since guy's # postings aren't obvious and uncontestable violations. # # In any event, the BLMs' opinion was that I should very definitely leave # guy alone. This ruling extends to the one or two others that occasionally # post copyrighted material of similar nature, including one of Panix's staff. # # Of course, were the volume of such posts to rise substantially, things might # be different. So this should not be seen as an invitation for all Panixians # to start posting their favorite copyrighted material here on a regular # basis. # # Lastly: In an ideal world, everyone would learn from this and leave the # topic, wiser if sadder. In this less-than-ideal world, if you really want # to post a followup, I suggest that you consult a lawyer. If I hadn't, I'd # surely have stuck my foot in my mouth all the way up to my knee the first # time I posted about this topic. # # /a So, I was allowed to continue posting whole articles. That's what the lawyers advised. Then, the Digital Copyright Massive Federal Interference Act... > Fair Use vs. Intellectual Property: The U.S. Congress > passed the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, a bill designed to > distinguish between fair use and protected intellectual property > in cyberspace. > > <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d105:s.01146:> I chose the IP list as the next-level test case... ---guy snipped source: http://www.wcco.com/news/stories/news-981106-144532.html Suspicious Object Found On Capitol Mall Was Not A Bomb ST. PAUL, Updated 8:35 p.m. November 6, 1998 -- Police hauled away a package with the words "Impeach Clinton Now" and signed by "the Mad Bomber" from the state Capitol on Friday, but temporarily lost when it flew out of a bomb squad trailer. A KSTP-TV helicopter was following the bomb squad van as it drove off towing a trailer containing the suspicious package. The station was taping as the package flew out of the open trailer in the wind and at least three cars ran over it. It took police about an hour to find the remains in the highway median. Some 200 employees, including Gov.-elect Jesse Ventura, were forced to leave the Capitol...

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by owner-cypherpunks＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From ichudov Mon Nov 9 10:27:22 1998 Received: (from ichudov@localhost) by mail.video-collage.com (8.9.1a/8.8.5) id KAA16394 for cypherpunks; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:27:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:27:22 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Chudov <ichudov> Message-Id: <199811091527.KAA16394(a)mail.video-collage.com> To: cypherpunks Subject: test5 Reply-To: ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov) Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)Algebra.COM Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com X-List-Admin: ichudov(a)algebra.com X-Loop: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com test5

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Wang touts spy-proof portable
by Petro 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,28483,00.html?st.ne.ni.lh Wang Global has introduced a new portable computer, but it's not going to be winning any svelteness contests. Wang's Tempest Mobile Workstation, 3 inches thick and weighting 14.5 pounds, is designed for government officials who need spy-proof computers that don't leak any telltale signals to electronic eavesdroppers. ... I want...

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