December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Elliptic curves
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May's father, an idiot, stumbled across Tim May's mother, an imbecile, when she had no clothes on. Nine months later she had a little moron.

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anonymous oddsman
by amnesia＠chardos.connix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Apologies for repeats, & please repost where appropriate. Well, now Ladbroke House is not even selling Clinton, and he has gone up from 1:8 to 1:10 at William Hill, while Dole fell a bit more, and just *look* at the William Hill Perot odds, doubling from last time! Whee! Wide disparity there, as Ladbroke's is still holding steady at 50:1 on the little guy, now that they're offering him again. Still no odds yet from Coral, and the nym's giving troubles, and still no offer -- or official explanation for the lack of odds -- on Harry Browne. I suppose folks can keep speculating, still seems like easy money for the house to the oddsman. Prices @ 09:20 BST Sat. 11th Oct 96 +---------+----------------+----------------+ | | Ladbroke's | William Hill | +---------+----------------+----------------+ | Clinton | No bets | 1:10 | | Dole | 7:1 | 11:2 | | Perot | 50:1 | 500:1 | | Browne | Still not currently offered. | +---------+----------------+----------------+ | | | | | Phone | +44-800-524524 | +44-800-444040 | | Numbers:| | | +---------+----------------+----------------+ Our roving reporter had the following to say: "Looks like you're getting trouser-brain back ! :-)" I suppose so, we get the government we deserve. The oddsman wishes to thank all involved, and he is still looking for a Moscow correspondent for possible UK arbitrage opportunities. :> Thanks also to all who are "in the know" for not revealing my identity. 'Till next time. anonymous oddsman "Demeaning the integrity of the U.S. Presidential election process for you on a regular basis, at no charge."

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Re: LET'S MEET DIMITRI
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On or About 12 Oct 96 at 11:28, Steven L Baur wrote: > >From the cypherpunks memory division. > > Tim's message: > Well, to one who inserts "(spit)" after nearly every name he cites, > and critiques Hayek as "fucking unreadable. Shit.," I suppose Hayek > must indeed seem unreadable. Shit. > > After all, Hayek rarely writes things like: "The senile Von Mises > (spit) and his Sovok Cabal plotters...." > > As to "forcing" your students to read Hayek, just who is in charge? > If you're the instructor, they can choose to read what you tell them > to read, or be unprepared on the exams you give and possibly flunk > the class. What part of "Required Reading" do you or your students > not understand? > > --Tim (spit) May I had almost forgotten what started this war of flame. That's not so bad. Ross =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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Re: SPA sues C2, other ISPs and users
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:48 AM 10/12/96 -0400, Duncan Frissell wrote: >At 02:12 PM 10/11/96 -0700, Greg Broiles wrote: >> >>It's inappropriate to expect Sameer or any other C2 >>employee/agent/representative to discuss the suit before they've had a >>chance to find and meet with an attorney; in some circumstances it might >>never be prudent for them to make a public statement about the suit. > >Is this good advice? When attacked, isn't it good to offer as strong a >defense as possible including (but not limited to) verbal abuse, physical >confrontations, countersuits, standing outside people's houses, picketing, >letters, public appearances, urging other people to express their views, >etc. After considering everything carefully, yeah, it's probably good to make a strong statement disputing the essentials of the suit. But given the counterintuitive nature of contributory infringement, it's also probably good to think carefully about what to say, when. I wasn't trying to tell Sameer what to do - just trying to make it clear that it's normal for him to take a few days or longer to say anything. I'm sure the SPA's press release was cleared by their legal people - it was probably prepared before the suits were even filed. -- Greg Broiles | "We pretend to be their friends, gbroiles(a)netbox.com | but they fuck with our heads." http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | |

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Re: RSA
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy Mayhem is just a poor excuse for an unschooled, retarded thug.

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Re: SPA sues C2, other ISPs and users
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:15 PM 10/12/96 -0700, sameer(a)c2.net wrote: > We'll be doing a press release > for monday. I look forward to supporting the ISPs in whatever manner seems most likely to be effective. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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[NOISE] Funny quote in Word-A-Day
by Tom Lojewski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How do I get off the cypherpunks list? >Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:18:24 -0400 (EDT) >From: "P. J. Ponder" <ponder(a)freenet.tlh.fl.us> >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: [NOISE] Funny quote in Word-A-Day >Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > >the Word-A-Day mailing list came up with a humorous quote, >almost germane to some of the ramblings on this list.... > > > >>Reputation: what others are not thinking about you. >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe, please send a message to >>wsmith(a)wordsmith.org >>with "Subject:" line as "subscribe <Your Real Name>" or "unsubscribe". >>Email anu(a)wordsmith.org if you have any questions, comments or >>suggestions. >>Archives, FAQ, words and more at the WWW site: >>http://www.wordsmith.org/awad/ > >So long, Perry.... >Let us know when you get a new list set up & best wishes. > > >-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >Version: 2.6.2 >mQCNAzBz1GQAAAEEANGl0daeboCV8dBSLxycjYd5tIJNOmKN2Y8hCXhF5cLt0nVu >NUDMgmUWF4zoZtBDNbtVF0wTTxEcBEHOLjIuZKPeiT7Bw266HhTahXxOIaOXZyDj >5VMISVvt9/Ua31JfxfCwK0iPtojFtKcNU13z/hrYA7Q5LfqsVF4ZsVsZPDGdAAUT >tClQLkouIFBvbmRlciA8cG9uZGVyQG1haWwuaXJtLnN0YXRlLmZsLnVzPg== >=lVU7 >-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- Tom Lojewski - ProNet Consulting - lojewski(a)earthlink.net

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Quadratic residues
by amnesia＠chardos.connix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim C[unt] May's obsessive masturbation has lead to advanced degree of blindness and hairy palms.

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Re: Fuck Cyberpromo
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:38 PM 10/12/96 -0400, Robert Hettinga wrote: >and sent it on to this wallace(a)cyberpromo.com address, those, er, >caprophageous cretins, (thanks, DCF; don't sue me for copyright violations >;-)) would get the hint in a hurry. Unfortunately, I need a new spell checker. The correct spelling is coprophagous cretin. Remember coprolite (fossilized dung). DCF

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Not That Smart Cards
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

New Scientist, 12 October 1996, p. 21. Smart, but not that smart By Mark Ward Credit card companies are turning to smartcards to help them fight fraud. But manufacturing problems may mean that they are no more secure than existing cards. Conventional credit cards hold information in a magnetic strip that typically holds about 200 bytes of information -- enough for the card and version number, expiry date and owner's name. Smartcards have a built-in microprocessor that can handle several kilobytes of data, equivalent to pages of information. Having the tiny computer on board means that each card can have a unique identity, and this ought to help to protect the information held on it. But to give a card an individual electronic signature, its built-in processor has to do a long calculation. This is a time-consuming process, so some card manufacturers intend to issue cards with one of several thousand preprogrammed identities. Each card will therefore have thousands of duplicates, all of which will be vulnerable if a criminal cracks the code for any one of them. In 1994 the credit card companies Europay, Mastercard and Visa got together to draw up a common specification for smartcards, known as EMV The cards will rely for security on the RSA encryption algorithm. This uses two very large numbers, called keys. One is passed around in public and the other remains hidden in the card's memory. The keys are 155-digit prime numbers which are multiplied together to make an even larger number which is then used to code and decode the data on the card. The problem for card manufacturers is working out the large prime numbers in the first place. "Companies making smartcards turn one out every 15 seconds," says Dmitri Markikis, a security analyst at Mondex, a London-based company that is experimenting with smartcards as electronic purses. "But it takes longer -- estimates range from 6 to 30 seconds -- for the card to generate its RSA keys." To speed things up some manufacturers are considering generating 10,000 preset keys and inserting one as each card is made. Louis Guillou, a researcher at France Telecom's Commercial Centre for the Study of Television and Telecommunications highlighted the problem this summer at the Crypto 96 conference in California. The three EMV partners circulate over 800 million credit cards between them, yet are likely to use a limited population of keys. "Trying to reuse the keys several times is very dangerous," says Guillou. Card manufacturers say the problem will be solved as smartcards become more powerful. "Soon the processing power of a smartcard will be such that it will be able to overcome that kind of issue," says Cyril Annarella, a technical consultant for the French company Gemplus, which makes cards for the EMV members. [End]

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