December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: [NOISE] Airport legal question
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:50 PM 8/21/96 -0800, jim bell wrote: >>7/23: "I don't have a bomb in the bag." >>7/24: "Well no, I left my pipe bomb at home." >>8/1: "It's not as if we were Swedish and here to blow up the airport." > > >I wonder how they determined that the lines above were "bomb threats." They contain the word "bomb". Bombs are "threatening". Therefore they are "bomb threats". Isn't authoritarian logic fun? --- | "Remember: You can't have BSDM without BSD. - alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com "| |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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www.usdoj.gov mirror2
by jfricker＠vertexgroup.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.netlite.com/ameritek/usdoj is faster than that other site

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RE: Canada Imprisons People For Human Rights Activity
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:02 PM 8/21/96 EST, jbugden(a)smtplink.alis.ca wrote: >Nota: Quebec recently held a referendum on seperation from Canada. >Just talk about secession of a state in the U.S., and you'll quickly see which >country makes political ideas illegal. It did not seem to stop the secessionist movement in Alaska (at least when I was there). But then that was before the Feds started taking a more active role in Alaskan politics... (Especially with their involvement to get pot recriminalized back during the Reagan administration.) You expect the state to allow challenges to its authority? And lose its omnipotent status? "It takes a Village to raise a child." - Number 2 --- | "Remember: You can't have BSDM without BSD. - alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com "| |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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Re: Spamming
by Alex F 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> At 06:09 PM 8/20/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: > >On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Vipul Ved Prakash wrote: > > > >> I don't know if there has been much discussion on the ethics of spamming > >> here? Is spamming free speech? > > > >Yes. > > No. [snip] Freedom of Speech includes freedom FROM speech. IOW, if it starts infringing on your rights, then it stops. Spam is unsolicited, commercial email, and it could possibly be argued that just as the spammer has the right to say whatever it is that he wants, we also have the right not to get his email. This can also get very convoluted. Besides that, it's just impolite. Alex F =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Alex F alexf(a)iss.net Marketing Specialist Internet Security Systems =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Re: [NOISE] Airport legal question
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:37 PM 8/20/96 -0700, William Knowles wrote: >Lucky, > >>I know that it is a violation of federal law to joke about explosives at >>the X-ray machine. Would an "I love Explosives" sticker on carry-on >>luggage violate any laws? > >Dunno, But you might get a kick out this from The Chicago Reader that >published a list of the "bomb threats" made at O'Hare International >airport a few weeks back. >7/23: "I don't have a bomb in the bag." >7/24: "Well no, I left my pipe bomb at home." >8/1: "It's not as if we were Swedish and here to blow up the airport." I wonder how they determined that the lines above were "bomb threats." Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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[Noise] RE: Husband/Wife jailed for saying Clinton Sucks
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jim bell <jimbell(a)pacifier.com> wrote: >The Net public is getting less and less tolerant of obvious bias on the part >of those who report the news. The Times has some potential >(undisplayed) bias that we need to be on the lookout for, but the Post is >actively engaging in bias in its news stories, NOW. My God! Could Chomsky be right after all? James A favorite story on Bosnia was an interview I saw with Noam Chomsky and Canadian Major General Lewis Mackenzie who had led the Canadian forces in Bosnia. The interviewer asked Chomsky some question about the real goals of the West in this crisis and he gave some biting response about them having no motivation to resolve the conflict but simply appear to be acting while continuing to follow various policies that were cynical, amoral and contradictory to their stated public goals. Lewis Mackenzie is then asked to rebut this view but instead he agrees with Chomsky's analysis and goes on to give specific examples that he faced first hand. More Canadiana: The man who recently snuck into the Canadian Prime Minister's residence and tried to assassinate him was released from jail last week after serving three months. Fortunately, he did not call him names.

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RC4 RC2 & MD5???
by Jeff Davis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I assume then that the Netscape encryption is Symetric Key, so how do RC4 RC2 and MD5 compare and contast? TIA -- According to John Perry Barlow: *What is EFF?* "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker." *email <info(a)eff.org>* *** O U T L A W S On The E L E C T R O N I C F R O N T I E R **** US Out Of Cyberspace!!! Join EFF Today! *email <membership(a)eff.org>*

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Remailer chain design docs?
by Michael Wilson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Would somebody be so kind as to point me at the design documentation for remailers and chain remailers? I feel a need to code, and want to see the design on the current systems before I jump in. Danke, MW

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Republican and Democratic party platforms on technology
by declan＠well.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

============ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:35:49 -0500 To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu From: declan(a)well.com (Declan McCullagh) Subject: Republican and Democratic party platforms on technology Sender: owner-fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Attached is an excerpt from the GOP's 1996 platform, provided by a Republican Senate staffer. All keystroking errors mine -- this plank doesn't seem to have been nailed into the rnc.org web site yet. While the Republicans certainly are no fast friends of online liberties -- recall Dole cosponsored an "anti-cyberporn" bill worse than the CDA -- they've been moving in the right direction on crypto. This plank shows that as a party, they're starting to take online privacy seriously. Let's see what the Democrats do at their convention. I've attached relevant excerpts from the platform committee's report, but the only coherent theme I found is increased government spending. (Contrast both parties with the Libertarians, which have a sterling commitment to online civil liberties, reflected in the platform approved at their convention last month.) -Declan --- [The rest of the platform is at http://www.rnc.org/hq/platform96/] The 1996 Republican Party Platform Excerpt: Science, Technology, and Innovation in the 21st Century Our goal is to empower the American people by using the benefits of advanced science to improve their quality of life without undue restraint from government. Our bottom line is more jobs, better jobs, and a higher standard of living for the families of America. We believe the marketplace, not bureaucrats, can determine which technologies best meet the needs of the public. [...] The communications revolution empowers individuals, enhances health care, opens up opportunity for rural areas, and strengthens families and institutions. A Dole-led Congress passed the Telecommunications Act of 1996 to promote the full and open competition and freedom of choice in the telecommunications marketplace. In contrast, the Clinton-Gore Administration repeatedly defended big-government regulation. This micromanagement of the Information Age is contrary to America's Information Super Highway. We support the broadest access to telecommunications networks and services, based upon marketplace capabilties. ***The Internet today is the most staggering example of how the Information Age can and will enhance the lives of Americans everywhere. To further this explosion of new-found freedoms and opportunities, privacy, through secured communications, has never been more important. Bob Dole and the Republican Party will promote policies that ensure that the U.S. remains the world leader in science, technology, and innovation.*** [Emphasis mine. --Declan] --- http://www.democrats.org/party/convention/pltdft96-2.html The Report of the Platform Committee to the 1996 Democratic National Convention Today's Democratic Party: Meeting America's Challenges, Protecting America's Values THE 1996 DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL PLATFORM [...] Technology. We know investments in technology drive economic growth, generate new knowledge, create new high-wage jobs, build new industries, and improve our quality of life. In the face of Republican efforts to undermine America's dedication to innovation, President Clinton and the Democratic Party have fought to maintain vital investments in science and technology. We remember that government investment in technology is responsible for the computer, for jet aircraft, and for the Internet -- no investments have ever paid off better, in jobs, in opportunity, or in growth. [...] Technology in the classroom. We must bring the 21st century into every classroom in America. There is a vast realm of knowledge waiting for our children to tap into. Computers are powerful tools to teach students to read better, write better, and understand math. President Clinton and Vice President Gore understand that technological literacy is essential to success in the new economy. The only way to achieve that for every student is to give them all access to a computer, good software, trained teachers, and the Internet -- and President Clinton and Vice President Gore have launched a partnership with high-tech companies, schools, state, and local governments to wire every classroom and library to the Information Superhighway by the year 2000. [...] The Clinton Administration is working to put wanted lists of parents who owe child support in the post office and on the Internet. President Clinton and Democrats in Congress insisted that the toughest possible child support enforcement be part of the new welfare reform plan -- including the President's plan to deny drivers licenses and professional licenses to people who do not pay their child support. ###

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HP supporting GAK, export controls
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Sorry, the last one went out without a subject] HP is in the process of ramroding a pro-GAK, pro-export control resolution through CommerceNet's public policy working group. Here are the details. HP is marketing several DES products that currently can not be sold abroad. In order to be allowed to sell these products, HP is willing to give the USG the following in return: 1. Support by CommerceNet to have GAK built into the (inevitable) domestic PKI. [Their presentation included the word "voluntary". When I asked what was meant by that, I got the reply "There are many interpretations of the word "voluntary"." Suffice to say there are fundamental differences in what I mean by "voluntary" and what their proposal would require the definition of "voluntary" to be.] 2. Support by CommerceNet for export restrictions on stronger forms of crypto than DES as well as restrictions on export of crypto for products not directly related (in HP's opinion) to ecommerce, such as email. This ill conceived attempt to use CommerceNet's clout as industry organization to liberalize export rules on HP's products, and those of a few other companies supporting HP in this effort, at a heavy cost to everybody else, must be stopped. Please let HP know how you feel about their initiative and encourage CommerceNet to adopt an anti-GAK, anti-export control position. --Lucky

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