December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Spamming (Good or Bad?)
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Or About 22 Aug 96, 18:27, Paul S. Penrod wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Jim Gillogly wrote: > "Paul S. Penrod" <furballs(a)netcom.com> writes: > > find them using one of the search engines. Market droids (get > > over it, dude) are >> > Nothing to get over. That's Ross who has the problem with the term. I'm over it. Hell, I can't even remember which side of this issue I'm on. ;-) Oh, yeah... I'm a sales-droid, looking for customers like a shark... Never stop moving..... Feed on the weak.... Yeah, that's where I'm at, yeah... Anyway, the consensus is that what I'm doing (that I thought WAS spam) is about as harmless as a cold call, so I'm personally vindicated. I like this next part: > The issue is convenience, not technology. The majority of US > consumers couldn't give a rat's ass about the Internet or the Web. > They want their product or service and they want it now. When the > Web becomes more convenient to use than the telephone, then you will > see nirvana for Cybershopping. Right now that isn't happening. I'm doing O.K., but I've go a product everyone still needs... And the consumers I want have been on the Internet for a long, long time. So all you geeky programmers (I mean that in the nicest way) buy your stuff from ME!!!! Hey!!! Was that SPAM!!!! HEY!!!!! Ross (Sales Droid) Wright =========== Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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Re: Husband/Wife jailed for saying Clinton Sucks
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:26 PM 8/22/96 -0400, pjb(a)ny.ubs.com wrote: >perhaps we should all add a line to our sigs to the effect that we hope >he dies, and soon, natural causes, of course. Hmmm, what exactly does >'natural death' include? > -paul A friend of mine who's an occasional hunter, and I were watching one of those nature-shows, and as I recall they showed a deer escaping from some sort of predator. The show's voice-over said that with the coming winter, the deer escaped "and would die a natural death." My friend indignantly pointed out that in NATURE, getting eaten by a predator IS A NATURAL DEATH! In a sense, for example, being in an airplane crash is "a natural death," because gravity is entirely natural! Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Antiautomobile devices
by Marc Barnett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This was recently posted to ba.motorcycle (WHY, I dunno), and since there has already been the topic regarding EMP disabling of cars.... From: keethie(a)iguanabbs.com (Keith P. Keber) Subject: Wussy EMP Devices... Date: 21 Aug 1996 14:27:14 GMT So, LEOs in the US of A will disable fleeing autos with electricity, eh? They ought to get a clue from those icons of enforcement in Finland. Finnish police agencies have been beta-testing a new device that fits on the front of their police cars. It's a harpoon. That's right, a harpoon. During a high-speed chase, the cops ram the sharpened, front-mounted device through the body, into the trunk of the car they are chasing. Barbs spring out, preventing dislodgement. The police car then uses its own brakes to bring both cars to a halt. The kicker is that the harpoon is really a giant hypodermic needle; tear gas can be injected through it into the vehicle ahead. (I can just hear some lawn order types now: "Whoa! Cool, man!") This story comes from the 8/20/96 broadcast of Public Radio International's program, "The World", which claimed the device was being demonstrated at some airport in Finland. They didn't say what would happen if the suspects decided to lock up their brakes just as the pursuing vehicle rammed them, but they *did* advise listeners to obey all speed limits while visiting the country....:-) ---------------- This is why I like my new bike... -- Marc I'M A FREAK, TOUCH ME marc(a)mtjeff.com A mind is a wonderful thing to taste

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128 bit MS Internet Explorer
by bart＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

MS got their site, www.microsoft.com, straightened out. I was able to download with about the same form filling as required for Netscape 3.0. b

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Re: Cypherpunks the movie
by nobody＠replay.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

why stop at a video why not a musical.... "Cypherpunk The Musical" Broadway here we come... Featuring Songs: "PGP why is it so hard to break" "We write code" "Why were we called shitopunks?"

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Racists Speak Up For Crypto
by qut＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:28:48 -0700 From: ezundel(a)cts.com (E. Zndel) Good Morning from the Zundelsite: I have a sweet friend in Santa Barbara, California who grew up with me in the rain forests of South America. Elvira and I share many things, including an "encryption language" of sorts. We used it with relish as teenagers when the Mennonite Elders were spying on us, trying to ferret out secrets. The key was really very simple, but our "government" just never managed to catch on. It used to drive them wild. Yet it was so ridiculously simple - ". . . repeat a vowel with a 'b'". Prebesibidebent Clibintobon? Kapish? Just practice it a bit - no one will understands it! It is hilarious. It gave us a tremendous edge on wickedness - mostly romantic wickedness but now and then legitimate revolt against authority peddling a dogma we didn't always like. This story often comes to mind as I peruse the arguments regarding censorship, particularly as I was reading a recent Phyllis Schlafly's essay on "Clinton Is Trying to be Big Brother": ". . . We hope the appropriate government agencies will soon solve the recent terrorist crimes and punish the criminals. But all Americans who care about civil liberties should vigorously resist President Clinton's attempt to use the terrorist attacks as an excuse to carry on his all-out war against the personal privacy of law-abiding Americans. Now the Clinton Administration is trying to make it illegal for individual Americans to have private conversations with one another. That's the real meaning of its effort to control encryption technology, and it's a direct assault on the First Amendment. It would be downright ridiculous to assert that the First Amendment guarantees our right to speak in public but not in private. It would be just as ridiculous to say that we have freedom to speak in words that the government can understand, but not in words the government can't decipher. Americans have the right to speak to one another in private, behind closed doors, and we should likewise have the right to speak to one another in code and to put our coded messages on computer in a process called encryption. Americans would not tolerate the government opening and reading the letters we send through the mails, and we should not tolerate the government opening and reading our encrypted, or coded, messages sent via computer. Yet, Attorney General Janet Reno, FBI Director Louis Freeh, and Vice President Al Gore are all demanding the authority to read our encrypted messages. In a speech to the Commonwealth Club of California, Reno bluntly stated her demand for "ensuring law enforcement access to encrypted data.'' Reno boasted that there is "a consensus'' that the government should create a system known as "Key Escrow'' (i.e., a supposedly "neutral third party''), to which all Americans should be forced to "entrust'' the keys to their encrypted messages, and to which the government would have access. On the contrary, there is no such consensus. Do you trust Janet Reno with access to your private messages? Do you trust the FBI to keep your files confidential? On July 12, Al Gore announced that the Administration will continue to push for the adoption of a massive public key infrastructure to give the government access to all encrypted communications. In a blatant bid for a police-state surveillance society, Gore warned about "the dangers of unregulated encryption technology." A neutral panel of the National Research Council was set up to make policy recommendations about encryption. The panel called on the government to abandon its efforts to restrict encryption. The NSC panel concluded that increased use of encryption would enhance our national security, not diminish it. Thirteen out of its 16 members had security clearances with access to secret information, and they saw no national security reason to justify the Clinton policy. The Clinton Administration bases its campaign to control private encryption on the alleged need to fight crime through wiretapping. However, the NSC panel concluded that the ability of the private sector to transfer confidential financial and other data over the information highway without interception is far more important. Encryption is a First Amendment issue, not a crime issue. If the Clinton Administration is allowed to control encryption, it would be the biggest expansion of federal power since the passage of the Income Tax Amendment in 1913 . . ." And come to think of it, still after all these years: the Elders had no business whatsoever spying on some teenagers. They made the laws, and they enforced the laws, and it was pretty much authoritarian business, but even as young teenagers we knew that what they did was Trespass! They had their reasons - but we had ours! It was called privacy. Nebeveber lebet aba foobool kibiss youbou obor aba kibiss foobool youbou! Advice to the wise in these perilous times. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "All the fun's in how you say a thing." (Robert Frost)

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Re: Husband/Wife jailed for saying Clinton Sucks
by pjb＠ny.ubs.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

true, then there are those who are brain dead, and continue to participate, notice that i did not say serve, in public office for years. -paul > From zachb(a)netcom.com Thu Aug 22 19:18:40 1996 > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:18:23 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Z.B." <zachb(a)netcom.com> > Subject: Re: Husband/Wife jailed for saying Clinton Sucks > To: pjb(a)ny.ubs.com > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > TEXT/PLAIN> ; > charset=US-ASCII> > Content-Length: 487 > > On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 pjb(a)ny.ubs.com wrote: > > > perhaps we should all add a line to our sigs to the effect that we hope > > he dies, and soon, natural causes, of course. Hmmm, what exactly does > > 'natural death' include? > > > > -paul > > When I read this, a quote from a certain famous sci-fi writer came to mind: > "All forms of death are ultimately due to heart failure." > > > --- > > Zach Babayco > > zachb(a)netcom.com <----- finger for PGP public key > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/4127 > > >

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Middleman has a new name!
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It has been brought to my attention that the name "middleman" is too long for the DOS-based remailer programs. In lieu of this I'm changing the listed name middleman(a)jpunix.com to middle(a)jpunix.com. The change will be effective for both the type-I and type-II remailers. I will also make this change to the type2.list/pubring.mix files shortly. The remailers will continue to also answer to middleman(a)jpunix.com. John Perry - perry(a)alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)jpunix.com is on the keyservers.

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IE Security Flaw
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Markoff reports today on the MS IE security flaw discovered by the Princeton team and posted here recently. See: http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/web-browser-flaw.html

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Re: Lesson 2 in cracking (cryptoanalysis 001)
by Scottauge＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 96-08-21 20:43:50 EDT, you write: >The point is that if you took two novels by the same author and >completely sorted them alphabetically they'd be almost the same. The examples cited did this by word, not by message as your stating. >So a block of PGP encrypted ascii-armored (i.e. 8=>7-bit encoding) >wouldn't affect the frequency counts? Tell me, how long have you been on >your current medications? I was talking about the algorithm as given, not PGP. > That's the point!! IT'S A JOKE!!! You know, "hahaha - very funny"? Not a > serious proposal? I know! But at least it is relevent to the group! How many points of attack have you seen on here? How many techniques have shown up here? P.S. My apologies to the fella I called a troll. It was uncalled for - lacking in social skills.

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