December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Peter Huber on the Orwellian Falacy
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: oldbear(a)pop.tiac.net Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:09:58 -0500 To: Digital Commerce Society of Boston <dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu> From: The Old Bear <oldbear(a)arctos.com> Subject: Peter Huber on the Orwellian Falacy Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: The Old Bear <oldbear(a)arctos.com> HIGH-TECH'S LIBERATING EFFECT As the Internet makes inroads into information-restrictive nations, such as China, efforts to limit access to only "desirable" ideas are doomed to failure, say experts. "The complaint one hears against the Internet isn't that there is too little speech," says Manhattan Institute analyst Peter Huber. "Instead, the argument is that there is too much hateful or pornographic speech. Stalin manipulated the past, altering photos and just wiping people and events out of the historical record. But today, documents and photos get downloaded and stored in files all over the world. You can make corrupt copies, false copies, but you can't erase real copies now." Huber, author of the book "Orwell's Revenge," applauds the move by industry to make encryption products widely available: "It means that we can now create a zone of privacy that the government can't penetrate. That's the exact opposite of what Orwell through would happen." source: Investor's Business Daily December 30, 1997 as summarized by Edupage For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns]
by Ryan Lackey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May <tcmay@got net> continues the sniping discussion: >I haven't seen Jim's reaction to my point about bolt-action rifles still >being far and away the favored weapon for sniping. Neither an AR-15 variant >nor an HK variant are advised for long-range shots (though either will of >course be capable of such shots...it's just that one wants the absolute >best precsion, and cycling rate is largely immaterial). In a rich target environment where you're firing from concealment, I think it is better to have a semiauto 7.62mmN rifle such as an accurized HK91 or a national match M1A, assuming the enemy has snipers or long-range antisniper weaponry. Why? 1) It is likely to be a target rich environment. USMC sniper doctrine is mainly single target single kill attacks from outside 600 yards. Former Soviet and US Army snipers mainly engaged multiple targets inside that range for tactical support. Defending against a raid is primarily tactical support sniping, killing the vice president of a country other than the US is primarily USMC style scout/sniping. Thus, in defending against a raid, Soviet-style weapons are probably better. 7.62x54R Dra----v rifles are probably a good model -- iirc (I've never fired one), they're semi auto bullpups. [eeek, www.guns.ru is selling them with bayonets! tactical close range sniping, aye!]. Or the SEAL sniper weapon -- an accurized M14, which is basically an M1A. With a good scope and better trigger, an M14/M1A can be 1 MOA, and it's a real battle rifle, with the ability to engage multiple targets quickly due to the semi-auto action. Also, when you're operating without a spotter/security man, it's nice to have the ability to quickly kill anyone in close. With an M1A, you just move from your concealment, kill, and return, wasting a minimum of time. I guess in a home you could just keep an AR-15 next to you for such close-in dealings, though. 2) In my (somewhat limited) experience, many field-improvised concealment locations are great during firing, but when you move to cycle the action on a bolt action rifle, you make the concealment shake or otherwise reveal yourself. Against a force with sniper/antisniper weaponry, that will likely bring down a hail of fire, which is suboptimal at best. USMC snipers generally solve this by firing once and leaving, since it's confusing and hard to localize on a single gunshot, but in a target rich environment, you might not be able to move. And they may have you surrounded, so it's hard to move without being seen. 3) A semi-auto is generally more useful for non-sniping tasks. I can barely carry an M1A, spare ammo, supplies, etc. for a couple days without being annoyed at the weight -- I sure wouldn't want to add a SMG or assault carbine to that. I would not have a problem with using a battle rifle/sniper rifle against a force armed with assault carbines and SMGs, though. True, this may be less of an issue inside a house, since you could just leave all your supplies cached throughout. I still thing you need to remain concealed and hopefully in cover, and if they bring heavy weapons to bear, you are going to have to move around the house, at least. A PSG-1 ends up being cheaper than 10 match-grade Remington 700s -- besides, the scope is much more expensive than the gun anyway (perhaps I just like overly expensive scopes) All that being said, for field use and home defense, if I'm alone, I'd take a barrett .50 browning for long-range USMC-style scout-sniping, or antimateriel sniping, and either a PSG-1 if money is no object (it's not *that* expensive, if you actually use it), or the German Army sniping system (or my^H^Ha national match M1A or M14) if money is only somewhat an object, or a Dragunov if money is a limiting factor, for anti-sniping or support sniping. And I strongly feel anti-raid sniping is of the latter category. (True, your gun is the best 7.62 USMC-style rifle other than the PSG-1..) Even better than that would be the addition of a spotter/security person with an M16 :) And some nice *cover* for where you fire from, in the form of earth, concrete, sandbags, or Spectra. And if the sky is the limit, something to engage light armor, like a 20mm rifle or tactical air support :) *ObCrypto!*: The choice of cryptographic tools is somewhat like the choice of sniper weaponry. A OTP is remarkably like a bolt-action rifle of infinite accuracy. Say, a USAF prototype 20mm laser guided sniper rifle. Use it twice in the same place, and get slagged in automatic cannon fire. However, it is ideal for "one shot one kill" perfect secrecy. A steganographically-protected data stream is much like a silenced subsonic carbine. A remailer network is much like a remote electrically-fired weapon (someone at a pistol match tried this with a free pistol, won, and the technique was banned the next year :) PGP is the PSS -- pretty [good] sniping system, pretty good precision. Useful for a lot of things, and since it's one of the better tools, it gets used for a lot of things where another solution might be better. :) Of course, I'd be kind of biased to call a working Eternity implementation and/or working and distributed digital cash system the PSG-1. -- Ryan Lackey rdl(a)mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/

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Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Guns: H&K, G3, 7.62 v 5.56 [Guns] > From: Ryan Lackey <rdl(a)mit.edu> > Date: 01 Jan 1998 13:47:02 -0500 > 2) In my (somewhat limited) experience, many field-improvised concealment > locations are great during firing, but when you move to cycle the action > on a bolt action rifle, you make the concealment shake or otherwise reveal > yourself. Against a force with sniper/antisniper weaponry, that will likely > All that being said, for field use and home defense, if I'm alone, I'd > take a barrett .50 browning for long-range USMC-style scout-sniping, or You obviously haven't seen the flash or the dust cloud from one of these beasties fired from ground level. Hiding at anything less than a mile is not something you're going to do very well. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Mobile phones used as trackers
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Mobile phones used as trackers > BY MICHAEL EVANS AND NIGEL HAWKES > > MOBILE PHONES can be used as tracking devices to > pinpoint users within a few hundred yards, according to a > report yesterday. > > Sonntags Zeitung, published in Zurich, said Swiss police > had been secretly tracking mobile phone users through a > telephone company computer. > > "Swisscom [the state-owned telephone company] has > stored data on the movements of more than a million > mobile phone users and can call up the location of all its > mobile subscribers down to a few hundred metres and > going back at least half a year," the paper reports, adding: > "When it has to, it can exactly reconstruct, down to the > minute, who met whom, where and for how long for a > confidential tte--tte." Anyone who desires not to be constantly tracked should carry a one-way pager and keep your cell phone turned off. This way you can return calls when it suits you and from a location of your choosing. In some U.S. localities I understand, it it possible to rent cellphone w/o offering any form of ID, only a deposit to cover the instrument and a prepayment for the airtime This may be illegal in some EU countries. To keep someone from correlating your pager info and cellular you'd want your callers to send 'coded' info, rather than phone numbers. --Steve PGP mail preferred, see http://www.pgp.com and http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html RSA fingerprint: FE90 1A95 9DEA 8D61 812E CCA9 A44A FBA9 RSA key: http://keys.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x55C78B0D --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear | tel: (702) 658-2654 CEO | fax: (702) 658-2673 Lammar Laboratories | 7075 West Gowan Road | Suite 2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | Internet: schear(a)lvdi.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Okay, I'd like to set up a remailer - but I don't know where to start! Unfortunatly it's going to have to run on an NT 4.0 box, so the winsock remailer is out of the question, right? And I'm not in the US, so I can't use the juno stuff -- so what (if anything) *can* I use? Thanks for any help...

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Re: HIP97 photos
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Alex de Joode : > Hmm, I think she only got 3 photos .. End of one film. The rest are in the post now. -- ############################################################## # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ##############################################################

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W.F. Friedman - A reputation revisited?...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Thought I would pass an interesting quote along regarding Friedman. I think it may have some interest considering the holding of Friedman by some cpunks... Combined Fleet Decoded: The secret history of American intelligence and the Japanese navy in WWII John Prados ISBN 0-679-43701-0 pp. 164 "This is not to say the solution occurred in a vacuum, however. It was OP-20-G that had solved Red, predecessor to the new diplomatic system, and Commander Safford recognized that his organization needed outside help on Purple. He went to his Army counterpart, The Signal Intelligence Service (SIS), which formed part of the Signal Corps: there, senior cryptanalyst William F. Friedman, was an expert on machine based encipherment systems. Under Friedman, chief of the team attacking the B Machine would be Frank B. Rowlett. Other SIS cryptanalysts, an electronics engineer, accounting machine experts, and Japanese linguist formed the rest of the group. Friedman, too often given credit as the man who "broke" Purple, made only sporadic contributions amid other duties. His main role came in selecting members of Rowlett's team, with an assist on diagnosis and analysis of the sytsem. Robert O. Ferner was Rowlett's second, with cryptanalysts Genevieve Grotjan, Albert W. Small, and Samuel S. Snyder plus crytographic specialists Glenn S. Landig, Kenneth D. Miller, and Cyrus C. Sturgis Jr. The top Japanese linguist was John B. Hurt, a Virginian like Rowlett himself." ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Banned video "Democratic Alternative" now online
by SPG 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The "Democratic Alternative for the Basque Country" video (banned in Spain) is now available in RealVideo format thanks to Contrast.Org. You can watch or download the video from the Euskal Herria Journal "mirror" sites: http://www.osis.ucsd.edu/~ehj http://www.contrast.org/mirrors/ehj Leaders of Herri Batasuna in Bizkaia and Gipuzkoa were jailed on Friday to begin serving their seven year prison sentences for having disseminated ETA's peace proposal, the Democratic Alternative. On December 1, 1997, Spain's Supreme Court convicted the entire leadership of Herri Batasuna of "collaborating with an armed group" and sentenced them to seven years each in prison for attempting to show a video (The Democratic Alternative), a proposal for cease-fire and peace from the Basque armed organization ETA during an election campaign broadcast last year. The court failed to prove the participation of each of the 23 politicians in the decision to broadcast the video and thus, it violates the principle of the presumption of innocence. The judges considered that a crime was committed when in fact the video had never been broadcasted. Moreover, the judges applied Franco's Penal Code, which declared the crime of "collaborating with an armed band" as any type of collaboration with the activities and goals of an armed group. It thus criminalizes the role of intermediary in disseminatiing negotiating positions or peace proposals in a bitter and long standing conflict. When Herri Batasuna first showed the video in public meetings in early 1996, Spain's National Court (Franco's Tribunal of Public Order renamed) banned the video. The then Socialist government--more than 14 of whose police and senior government officials and a Civil Guard general have been formally charged for their involvement in the creation, funding, and activities of the death squads that killed at least 28 suspected Basque activists in the mid 1980s--instructed the attorney general to investigate whether Herri Batasuna should be outlawed. Herri Batasuna then attempted to use segments of the ETA video to disseminate the peace proposal in their election campaign but its broadcast was banned. In May 1996, the Socialist lost the general elections to the Partido Popular (Popular Party, founded by Franco's Minister of Interior). In January 1997, Spain's Supreme Court decided to prosecute the 23 leaders of Herri Batasuna. Over 30,000 people rallied in February in the Basque city of Bilbo to protest the prosecution of the Herri Batasuna leadership. The demonstration, which was initially peaceful, turned into a violent confrontation when the police opened fire with live ammunition, wounding several people. In June, an International Commission for Freedom of Expression presented the Manifesto to the Public Opinion and the International Community in support of free speech and opposition to the trial against Herri Batasuna. The president of Sinn Fein, Gerry Adams, and other distinguished individuals are among the 700 signatories who endorsed the Manifesto. International observers from human rights organizations in eleven countries watching the proceedings issued a joint statement saying that the accused were given the burden of proof which "violates the fundamental principle of the presumption of innocence." Basque political parties have strongly criticized the sentences, saying that the trial was politically motivated and dashed hopes for a peace dialogue. Herri Batasuna attorneys said that nothing had been proven and that the trial was intended to outlaw a political party which represents much of the vote of the Basque people. They will appeal the sentence.

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Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment
by Mikhael Frieden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:18 PM 1/1/98 +0000, Paul Bradley wrote: >> It is about basic human decency, and giving a person a fighting chance. >No, acts of law which require employers not to discriminate against >niggers, wops, kikes or greezers, or any other ratial group infringe >basic rights of association, I personally have no racist prejudices, but >recognise the freedom of others to be as bigotted as they care to be. Does that include the krauts, micks, limeys, frogs as well as the canucks and pea soup eaters? The polacks, chinks and dagos? The Wogs too? Can't we all be ethnic slurs together? Which reminds me. We never did get a good one for the Russians. Any nominations? -=-=- Censorship is OK if it is of them. -- the F-C motto

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