December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

EYE_suk
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

4-22-96. WaPo: "Counter-Terrorism to Be Olympic Event for-U.S." Federal authorities are taking precautions against the use of unconventional weaponry such as poison gas, germ weapons or even a nuclear device. Those attending the Games will see only a small portion of the immense security operation. At its heart will be an estmated 3,000 Army troops, 6,300 National Guardsmen, and at least 10,000 other police and private security guards at peak strength, with an additional force of agents from the FBI, ATF, DIA, CIA, NSA and FEMA. The Pentagon's office of special operations and low-intensity conflict plans to place its elite counter- terrorism teams in readiness. "We keep telling everybody we wil be armed with a radio and a smile," said Maj. Gen. Robert R. Hicks Jr. EYE_suk (A scary skinhead rumble for I-MAX gouge)

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golf stuff
by ballman＠t-1net.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: [NOISE] Re: Nazis on the Net
by Rich Burroughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:26 PM 4/22/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: >E. Allen Smith actually might have written: > >>I've seen various quotes from Randy Weaver in various publications, >>including Time and other non-right-wing ones. None of them indicated him >>as an actual neo-Nazi or racist > >BWAHAHAHA!!! This is from the DOJ report on the Ruby Ridge shooting: "Weaver first came to the attention of the BATF in July 1986 during its investigation of a series of bombings in Coer d'Alene, Idaho in which the Aryan Nations was believed to be involved. BATF asked Kenneth Fadeley, a confidential informant, to assist its investigation by obtaining information about people attending an upcoming World Aryan Congress who might be engaged in illegal activities.[FN23] Thereafter, Fadeley portrayed himself as a weapons dealer who catered to motorcycle gangs and, in this role, managed to be introduced to high level members of the Aryan Nations in Northern Idaho.[FN24] In July, 1986, Fadeley attended the World Aryan Congress at Hayden Lake, Idaho. During this assembly, Fadeley was introduced to Weaver, who was at that time of no particular investigative significance to BATF.[FN25]" Weaver may have just been attending the World Aryan Nations Congress for the beer and chicks... Portions of the report are online at http://isdn33.eng.uc.edu/~rabagley/ruby/ruby.toc.html Rich ______________________________________________________________________ Rich Burroughs richieb(a)teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~richieb See my Blue Ribbon Page at http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/blueribbon New EF zine "cause for alarm" - http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/cause

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Re: 5th protect password?
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:19 AM 4/23/96 -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > didn't Unicorn offer Mr. Bell a > wager on this issue? Isn't the ball in Mr. Bell's court to put > his money where his mouth is? Yeah: fifty thousand dollars. Not that it makes the slightest difference. On the extropians list a number of very large bets were made and accepted, but nobody ever paid up. (Or very few -- I know of no cases.) When somebody proposes a bet that is substantially larger than the likely cost to his reputation if he weasels out, one can expect that, if he erred, he will not pay. Now if Unicorn had proposed a bet for one hundred dollars, then I would sit up and take notice. A hundred dollars is real money. Fifty thousand dollars is hot air, like one kid says, "I bet you I am right", and the other kid says "I bet you a zillion dollars you are wrong". If somebody proposes a bet that is larger than the likely reputation cost of weaseling, we should ignore the bet and subtract from the guys reputation as if he had already weaseled, since the events of the extropian list show that that is the most likely outcome. All of us have been wrong from time to time on matters where we were sure we were right. Anybody who was serious about paying would not make such ridiculous bets. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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arbiter/escrow agent for hire
by bryce＠digicash.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I hereby offer to be arbiter and escrow agent for cypherpunks bet settlements. My conditions: 1. I won't deal in old-fashioned currencies. Mark Twain U.S. Dollar ecash or Merita Bank of Finland Finnish Mark ecash or First Digital Bank cyberbuck ecash only, please. 2. I don't handle bets larger than USD300.00, or FIM1500.00, or cyb300,000.00. These are just my arbitrary comfort limits. (It's also large enough to cover the kinds of things that go on here, IMESHO.) 3. My fee per bet is USD5.00 or FIM50.00, or cyb7000.00. This is for "simple", winner-take-all bets. For other arrangements, make me an offer. 4. I have to have an explicit description of how the bet will be settled which is acceptable to me. This will be known as the "bet description". a. It has a dearth of loopholes and ambiguities, both with regard to the subject of contention and with regard to the settling procedure, including settling agents and settling schedule. b. It doesn't require me to be the "settling agent" who does the research or performs the experiment or whatever. Before I am committed to the job I will require 3 items to be submitted to me: 1. Acceptable digital signature upon the "bet statement" from each bettor. (Note that PGP signatures from PGP key pairs which are not connected to me via the Web of Trust, or which are not verifiable by me via an out-of-band connection, are not acceptable digital signatures. This is because of the MITM attack problem, not because I need True Names to be connected to the signatures.) 2. My fee. (I don't care who pays it-- One or both bettors or spectators.) 3. Amount of the bet from each bettor. This chunk of money will be known as the "ante". Note that depending upon the details of the "bet statement", each bettor may submit a different ante. (Yes, up front. Yes, I get antes from both bettors. Yes, I keep them while the bet is being settled. Why do you think my fee is so low?) Final Notes: 1. I reserve the right to reject any bet for any reason. Although my fee is non-refundable, the antes are refundable in this case. If I exercise this right after the antes have been delivered, I will return them to their respective owners. 2. The bettors may _not_ unilaterally or unconditionally reserve the right to cancel the bet after having signed the bet statement and submitted their antes. Provisions for cancelling the bet after that point, if desired, should be written into the bet statement. 3. I don't do currency exchange. If your betting partner submits his ante in Finnish Marks and you win then you are getting Finnish Marks. If you submit an ante in cyberbucks and then I cancel the bet, you are getting cyberbucks refunded to you. Please contact me via e-mail (PGP preferred) if you wish to engage my services. Cordially, Bryce, Escrow and Arbitration Agent Serving the cypherpunks Mailing List Since 1996. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMX4VUkjbHy8sKZitAQGOQwMAzsITvGj54RvUnwr0DWXbtbiQeMRIOZMv igN2qUVArkP8TsC8/KkMaSlxD1jEVdGcDj+UGegLIO8Jfq62NCkz41LSUSNi1nWY 0/pNUikhSAFZ2DAh6u42K45HmhPAypeC =eS7Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: DES as a stream cipher
by Rick Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

karl(a)geoplex.com ("Karl A. Siil") asks: >As this sounds like a previously solved problem, I wanted to find out about >using DES (or any block cipher) as a stream cipher, i.e., in a manner that >keeps input and output data length equal. I don't want to use a true stream >cipher, as I want to use the same key for multiple messages and stream >ciphers tend to place the bulk of their overhead in the re-key. Since stream >ciphers have "memory," I would have to "re-key" to the same key for each of >my messages. I would rather key something like DES once and run it in CBC >mode or use some other form of IV. The right answer depends on the types of attacks you're interested in countering. The classic reference is probably Voydock and Kent's "Security Mechanisms in High Level Network Protocols," from Computing Surveys in 1983. I think Stallings recently put together collection of paper reprints for IEEE Press that included this one. This paper is particularly nice since they present various streaming modes and then talk about the vulnerabilities associated with them. So it's not crypto algorithms so much as how to use them. Rick. smith(a)sctc.com secure computing corporation

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GIV_way
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FiTi reports on a Lisbon money laundering conference: 4-23-96: "Long arm of US law threatens business." The extra-territorial reach of US law poses a growing threat to non-US companies doing business, even indirectly, with that country, an expert on money laundering said yesterday. Mr Rowan Bosworth-Davies told a conference in Lisbon that US courts had been "consistent in concluding that US law enforcement interests outweigh a foreign nation's interests in preserving the confidentiality of its banking or its business records". 4-24-96: "US prosecutor attacks bank secrecy laws." A US federal prosecutor yesterday told banks that they are no better than prostitutes if they transmit money without knowing their customers or the purpose of the transaction. Mr John Moscow said: "The ancient concept that bank secrecy must be preserved to keep a gentleman's financial affairs confidential -- dating back to the days when only gentlemen had cheque accounts, and their servants did not -- must give way to the current reality. GIV_way

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Re: [NOISE] Re: Nazis on the Net
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Rich Graves <llurch(a)networking.stanford.edu> >E. Allen Smith actually might have written: >>I've seen various quotes from Randy Weaver in various publications, >>including Time and other non-right-wing ones. None of them indicated him >>as an actual neo-Nazi or racist >BWAHAHAHA!!! I assume that you are thinking I'm incorrect? Incidentally, I classify a racist as someone who says "this race is evil and should be killed/enslaved/tortured/whatever." Someone who says that different races shouldn't live together is a separatist; it's only when they start having seperate but equal being anything but equal (e.g., apartheid) that it crosses the line into racism. Thus, I don't regard Charles Murray or Richard Herrnstein as racist, for instance. >Here's a URL for a *highly sympathetic* piece on Weaver that complains >that, "I will be happier when the press stops demonizing Weaver -- in >subtle and not so subtle ways -- in news stories and editorials. He is >referred to so consistently as "White Separatist Randall Weaver" that one >would be forgiven for assuming that his parents gave him the first name >"White," while "Separatist" was some old family name handed down from his >maternal aunt": >http://www.omnet.com/What-I-Think/col.09-01-95B.html Yes, it doesn't give any information to call him a racist... it gives information to call him a separatist. I don't support either, but I call the former more evil than the latter. If you thought I had claimed that Weaver wasn't a separatist, you've misread me. >Here are some *highly sympathetic* URLs that mention that Weaver was a >white separatist/Aryan Nations wacko: >http://www.scimitar.com/revolution/by_topic/firearms/enforce/rubyridge/setu… >http://eagle.tamu.edu/~carlp/Liberty/Weaver.Case.AR.html They both, yes, state that he was a white separatist. They don't state that he was an Aryan Nations member... just that the FBI was trying to use him to infiltrate the Aryan Nations. One doesn't have to be a member of something before recruitment by an undercover (or intelligence) operation to be useful for infiltrating it - you just have to be someone that that organization would accept. As a known white separatist, Weaver becoming an out-and-out racist would be more believable than, say, you or me becoming an out-and-out racist. Often, those who are already members of such an organization will be more resistant to turning - more emotional committment, more watchfullness for attempts to frame/entrap, etcetera. >A slightly more balanced piece from the New York Times: >http://eagle.tamu.edu/~carlp/Liberty/Weaver.Case.NYT.html Which, again, doesn't give any evidence that he was an actual racist, as opposed to a white separatist. >FWIW, the Anti-Defamation League, which I am *well aware* has said sily >things about militias and skinheads in the past, mentions Weaver in this >report: >http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/w/weaver.randy/aryan-nations I'm glad you mentioned their unreliability; otherwise I would have had to. This one I haven't been able to check (connection refused), but I wouldn't believe them in any case if they did claim he was a racist. >I have also heard Weaver cited quite favorably on the Stormfront list, >which has repudiated Timothy McVeigh because his friend Terry Nichols has >a Filipino wife. This makes McVeigh a Race Traitor by association, of >course. Well, yes, a martyr is quite helpful to most movements. Of course he's going to be cited favorably, so long as they can't find any ideological problems such as the one you mention with regards to Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh. Thank you, you've done my research for me. -Allen

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Re: Bernstein ruling meets the virus law
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:43 PM 4/22/96 -0700, Steve Reid wrote: >Things are only black and white in lawmaker's dreams. :-/ Note also that there are programs which replicate and maintain themselves on several machines in a network in order to provide reliable network services (e.g. print spooling). (The people at Xerox PARC, who did almost everything first, experimented with this kind of program.) If lawmakers are to come up with a rational law, a big if, they will have to differentiate between a bug in a "tame" worm which lets it get loose as a virus, and a virus which was meant to be destructive from the get go. And then they will have to decide what to do about the virus that was designed to write, "Hi Mom!" on as many screens as possible with no malicious damage, and bugs in it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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SHA_dow
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Three US papers report on hardly any intelligence reforms endorsed by Don't Worry, Boys, Clinton in response to the ole-boy Brown's CIA-CYA-all-the-way dark shadowisms. SHA_dow

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