December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

[ASSASSINATION NOISE] Re: V-chips, CC, and Motorcycle Helmets
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:36 AM 2/13/96 -0800, you wrote: >The Rushdie incident is simply so far removed from "Assassination Politics" >that it can't possibly be used to refute it; I still believe it actually >demonstrates how much effort somebody has to go to, to protect a targeted >person. One targeted person is easy to protect. 10,000 would be FAR >harder. And the moment a few of those guys got "whacked," the rest would >want to resign their jobs and hope they would be allowed to retire in peace. Rushdie is just low on your target list. I agree that it's much harder to protect 10,000 people (say the Iranians put out a contract on Baha'is and other heretics, at $X/head...) but it's still abusable. Maybe the Anonymous Captains of Industry put out a contract on strike leaders. >From a cypherpunks perspective, yes you could run an assassination lottery, though it might be hard for the assassin to collect - how do you prove that _you_ were the hit man, and not merely the nearest person to a phone after it happened? How do you prevent an anonymous escrow agency from refusing to deliver the cash? Some of the protocols may be difficult to work out. Meanwhile WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE JIM BELL REWARD 13 demo-cyberbucks An assassination-sponsoring society is _not_ a polite society. #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com / billstewart(a)attmail.com +1-415-442-2215 # http://www.idiom.com/~wcs Pager +1-408-787-1281

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Hey Derek: who are you? (toad.com is glitching...)
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Would the author of this message please reply to me by e-mail? I received it under the name <owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com>, with no subject whatsoever. The remailer is freakin' out... >The other question I have is: who do you think the "customers" of PGP >are? If you think the majority of PGP's customers are the >crypto-privacy activitst types, you are highly mistaken. PGP has hit >the main stream, and is being used by many non-crypto-aware people. >Probably more of them than there are of us. > >If you want to discuss this more, let's take it to private email, >please. > >-derek > > **** NEW PGP 2.6.2 KEY ********* 2048 bits Key ID:24201BA1 1996/02/13 Jean-Francois Avon <jf_avon(a)citenet.net> Key fingerprint = 23 B6 24 31 86 67 FB 35 C7 A7 AF 12 A1 61 E9 3D **** OLD KEY: DO NOT USE ANYMORE UNLESS FOR VERIFYING SIGNATURES **** 1024 bits Key ID:57214AED 1995/10/04 Jean-Francois Avon <jf_avon(a)citenet.net> Key fingerprint = 84 96 76 AE EB 7C AB 15 88 47 87 B0 18 31 74 9F

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[NOISE] Re: The Internet Party
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:01 PM 2/14/96 -0800, Brian D Williams <talon57(a)well.com> wrote: >If I see one more ad for some dumb ass >politician running for president I'm going to puke. ><bright idea!> >Say, why not pick our own candidate? >Why not form our own Party? >The Internet party........ Because there's way too little for us to agree on outside of Internet issues; it's like forming the Pro- or Anti- Abortion Party, or the Womens' Party or whatever. >It would be the ultimate write in campaign. >Now all we need is a candidate who stands for free speech, personal >privacy and the right to encrypt....... >"I nominate John Perry Barlow. Who will second the nomination?" For a write-in candidate, you don't _need_ a second. Just put it in your .signature file and see what happens. On the other hand, John's a Republican, and they desparately need _somebody_ as a candidate :-) #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com / billstewart(a)attmail.com +1-415-442-2215 # http://www.idiom.com/~wcs Pager +1-408-787-1281 ! Frank Zappa for President !

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Re: CyberAngels
by medea＠alpha.c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan sez: >I fear the so-called "CyberAngels" more than I do the Feds. At >least with their brand of jackboots, there can be >accountability. > >The CyberAngels are more like CyberCads, CyberFrauds, or >CyberCriminals. While Declan makes a good point, I wouldn't worry too much about the CyberAngels a/k/a the CyberAsses. As we all know, the group received a lot of press years ago when they started as the Guardian Angels. They began to go downhill when it was discovered that they employed the services of those they were supposedly protecting the public against. Now, they're trying their hand at *protecting* the Net since, by jumping on the "decency band-wagon", they've seen an opportunity to avoid becoming defunct. I bet if you use the word "cryptology" in a sentence, the CyberAsses would have no idea what you were taking about. The bottom line is that even the orange juice industry got tired of Anita Bryant. Medea ============================================================ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + |---------------------------------------------| + + | The mind is its own place, and of itself | + + | Can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven | + + |---------------------------------------------| + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Mouse pad???
by wlkngowl＠unix.asb.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > I got a mouse pad in the mail today, mailed in > Maryland, but otherwise in a plain brown envelope. > It has nice, understated gold seal announcing it > is from the National Security Agency's Information > Systems Security Organization. Ah. But don't you see... it's got a hidden transmitter there. It monitors your mouse movements and can sense keyboard timings, disk access and uses a mini-TEMPEST device to moniter your screen... <G> (I love it when there's a slew of untitled "owner-cypherpunks" messages... does a job on filtering software...) - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMSH5FCoZzwIn1bdtAQGlKAF/RzgodmykMrgha9IFUYsFuxN0F+UggGeV dtGjjovfZ7FXz5UC8T4DNq9ZOvbFfsP5 =P5gF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: COO_kie
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:07 AM 2/13/96 -0800, Jeff Weinstein <jsw(a)netscape.com> wrote: > There is a lot of confusion about cookies. They do not allow >a web site to access private information such as the user's >e-mail address or other preferences as was recently reported >in Web Review. They only store information that the web site >already has. If you never give a web site private information >about you or your identity, they will not be able to match your >access patterns to your identity. What the cookie mainly does is allow a normally stateless server to maintain state while using a normally stateless protocol, letting the client machine store the state data at the cost of some extra transmission and parsing. If the cookie data is kept separate for separate web pages, this gives you more privacy than having the server keep the same information, since you can see it and maybe change it. (The documentation indicates that you _can_ do that, but it looks like the amount of separation you get depends on the cookie-generating-user's choices of options.) As a separate note, it looks like cookies will be bitten by the Year 2000 glitch; anybody who bakes cookies between now and late 1999 that wants them to expire early in 2000 should probably just give up and go for 12/31/99 expiration.... #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com / billstewart(a)attmail.com +1-415-442-2215 # http://www.idiom.com/~wcs Pager +1-408-787-1281

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No Subject
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Meanwhile > WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE > JIM BELL > REWARD 13 demo-cyberbucks Send your contributions to: James D. Bell 7214 Corregidor Road Vancouver, WA (503) 696-3911 (503) 737-0284 (503) 737-0357 >An assassination-sponsoring society is _not_ a polite society. The first rule of not being seen is "Don't stand up".

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Ben T. Moore "Mr. Anonymous"
by hochiminh＠alpha.c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<<<<Quoting Ben T. "Mr. Anonymous" Moore to Karl>>>> BTM> Well Karl, It seems I missed your idea/solution in this post, however, some of BTM> us figured this out some years ago... I begin a campaign almost 10 years ago BTM> of feeding the computers false information about myself. I never use the Social BTM> Insecurity Number assigned to me... I don't even give it to the Bank. This makes BTM> for some rather dicey situations. I rarely use my real name or give out my real BTM> phone number. At this point in my life... I have *NO* credit history. I currently BTM> have *NO* bank account. My goal is to be completely invisible to the system. BTM> Yes I have had a few glitches in this plan from time to time... but I continue to BTM> work on it. Well, Mr. Anonymous, let's see how well YOU have used your own advice. With just a little effort using WEB search engines available to everyone on the net I have found the following: Yes you have no credit history, at least not a positive history and you have no bank account. However, these "accomplishments" were not the result of your "goal" to be "invisible to the system". You have a credit history, a VERY poor one. This and the fact that you have no bank account stems from the fact that you are a deadbeat not some cyber-hero looking to "drop-out" of the system. You are approximately $13,000.00 behind in child support. In fact a search of the records available to the general public reveals you were recently arrested for failure to pay child support. A fund rasing campaign was instituted in several USENET and FIDONET newsgroups to raise your bail when your attorney-employer abandoned you in jail. In fact you have been arrested several times in the last 12 months for some rather abberant behavior. Let me list the things I have been able to find out about you: 1) You are an African-American Male, age 36. 2) You live in Indianapolis, Indiana. 3) You are the on-again off-again bodyguard for Militia-Patriot attorney Ms. Linda Thompson and was with her when she was arrested (again)12-23-95. 4) You were arrested for attempting to smuggle weapons (bullets?) into the Indianapolis County Jail 07-22-95. 5) You are about 6'4" tall and weigh 260#. 6) You also use the IRC name "Shaka". 7) You are a deabeat dad being $13,000.00 in arrears in child support. 8) You recovered some property for Ms. Thompson and filed a Police Report # 9531780A. 9) You wrote a letter to the editor in the Indianapolis Post Spotlight lamenting you "child support" woes. Pathetic, very pathetic. So while you are off being a cool anonymous dude the rest of us are paying for the AFDC you ex-wife has to use to feed the kids. How do you justify an internet account while being $13,000.00 in arrears on child support? You are a disgrace to your race, the Militia-Patriot movement and men in general. BTM> I just have never felt warm and fuzzy knowing that any government agency, BTM> business, or whoever can get my personal information off a computer could come BTM> knock on my door some dark night. If you're interested in fortifying your privacy, BTM> I can give you a few pointers. BTM> 1.) Go to your local DMV and inform them you've had a change of address. I BTM> selected a high rise apartment building with 15 floors and selected an address BTM> on a non-existant 23rd floor. Getting your Driver's License address changed BTM> should cost less than $10.00. This is a violation of Indiana Code but breaking the law is of no concern to you, huh? BTM> 2.) Go find a company like "Mail Boxes Etc." and rent a mailbox. The cost is BTM> nominal compared to the added privacy and security. The distinction between BTM> a mailbox and a Post Office Box is with a mailbox you have an actual street BTM> address. You can receive deliveries from UPS and Federal Express at a BTM> mailbox. You can't at a P.O. Box. BTM> 3.) This part requires some skill... befriending a graphic artist is a good idea for BTM> this one. But what you need is a phony work identification. Pick a name! A BTM> couple of "Pass Port Photos" and some lamination and you're good to go. This is a violation of Indiana and Federal Laws depending on how they are used. BTM> 4.) Take your new persona down to your local utility companies and get the serv- BTM> ice switched to the name of your new persona. Even get your phone switched BTM> and have the number non-published. You'll be pleasantly surprised from now BTM> on, everytime your phone rings, it will be someone you really want to talk to. Another violation of Indiana Code

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Re: Subject lines?
by Leslie Todd Masco 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Rich Graves wrote: > The messages on news://nntp.hks.net/hks.lists.cypherpunks do have subject > lines, so at least some messages are leaving toad.com OK. I think it's > our problem. Nope, not necessarily. Hypermail goes off of different headers than most MUAs do (it's a slut: it'll use anything it can find). Too bad it dumps core on Message-ids that don't have greater-thans or less-thans (or did: that's the latest round of patches that I sent off to be ignored by its author). -- Todd - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMSLSkSoZzwIn1bdtAQH7YQF9FU1nbaYk7t/I0njC/c4ts5+hYrxYZwDg lgj4ZVc6RvYNaB7wYFq9odgbvb3ewSGl =W3SY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: FW: Laugh Of The Day - Fri, Feb 02 1996 (fwd)
by cwalton＠jovanet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just have to ask-- what does this have to do with........ >few participants; the purists spend lots of time self-righteously >congratulating each other on keeping off-topic threads off the list). oh, never mind. i see now...... Conrad Walton http://www.industrial-artworks.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- INDUSTRIAL ARTWORKS | POB 2815, El Segundo, CA 90245 | 1-310-640-3365

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