December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

96R_azz
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

1-1-96: NYP: Denise Caruso offers '96 resolutions on Nscp/Aol bugs, Web rubes, daft pols, Gates' dogs, crypto zip, Apple rot, W$ dupes. 96R_azz

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:07 PM 1/1/96 -0500, David Mandl wrote: >I agree. It's not a good idea to assume that there's going to be some kind >of widespread opposition movement when the big Net Crackdown comes. Most >people will either obey the law, be unaffected by it, or violate it in very >insignificant ways ("net jaywalking"). There's strength in numbers, but I >just don't think the numbers will be there. > > --Dave. During Prohibition, consumption of illegal booze increased steadily during the whole period. Hard liquor consumption was actually higher at the end of Prohibition than it had been before Prohibition. DCF

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Who sent me this message?
by Steve14571＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Someone from this list sent me a message encrypted with the international version of PGP 2.6.2. Unfortunately, my system crashed and lost the email address... Plaintext of the message follows: Hi Stephen, >Me too 8^) This is a 2047 bit key (I think big) :-) As I can see. How did you generate this key? Are you using a special version of PGP? Maybe something about myself to start with: I'm from Belgium (that small spot between France, Germany and the Netherlands). I work in a bank (no, this does not mean that I'm swimming in money!) as a system engineer. We work mainly with A-Series mainframes from UNISYS. At home I spent some time on the internet, my PC, reading a good book and last but not least having a beer with my friends. That's it for now, looking forward to hear from you again. Happy New Year! Luc Whoever sent me this message please write back, and send a public key so that I can respond.

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Re: Can We Cut the Crap?
by Gordon Campbell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:18 PM 12/31/95 -0800, tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) wrote: > >Really, the S/N ratio is approaching all-time lows, even for the Silly >Season of Xmas. A week or so ago there was a massive flame war involving >insults and counter-insults--I returned from my Xmas vacation to find the >list melting down. Now, a week later, a new flamewar has erupted. As a lurker on the list, I'd like to second this opinion. The cypherpunks list is held up to be this almighty oracle of cryptographic information. Yet, every time I subscribe to it (this is the fourth time in a year) I have to wade through irrelevant personal attacks and various other rubbish. I mean, really. This is worse than Fidonet. However, I suppose that with any gathering of (mostly) intelligent, liberty and privacy minded people, there are likely to be clashes of one sort or another. If the anonymous twits will grow up and stop stirring things up, maybe the rest of us can learn something. Just my $0.02 ----- Gordon R. Campbell, Owner - Mowat Woods Graphics P.O. Box 1902, Kingston, Ontario, Canada K7L 5J7 Ph: (613) 542-4087 Fax: (613) 542-1139 2048-bit PGP key available on request.

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Canadian Cypherpunks
by Tim Philp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there some interest in a meeting of Canadian Cypherpunks? If you are a Canadian (or an American who is fortunate enough to live near our sainted shores ;-)) send me a private E-mail message. Because Canada is such a big country, I propose that we start with a meeting in Toronto or area. If there is enough interest, I will arrange for a meeting place. Regards, Tim Philp =================================== For PGP Public Key, Send E-mail to: pgp-public-keys(a)swissnet.ai.mit.edu In Subject line type: GET PHILP ===================================

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TSCM.COM Counter Surveillance, Privacy, & Security Page
by jmatk＠tscm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Happy New Year!!!!! TSCM Technical Surveillance Counter Measure - new materials finished... Check it out... http://www.tscm.com/ New section on TSCM test equipment New section on TSCM training and career paths Coming Soon, TSCM Hand tools TSCM and Technical Surveillance books - James M. Atkinson "...shaken, not stirred"

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Re: "Deterrence"
by Robert A. Rosenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 19:17 12/29/95, jim bell wrote: >In my essay, "Assassination Politics," I pointed out that it would be >relatively easy to deter such official-type actions if enough of us simply >said, "NO!" and denominated it in terms of dollars and cents. After all, >with four million Compuserve users, if they each were willing to donate a >penny to see this latter-day Fuhrer dead, that would be $40,000. (Pardon me >if I don't translate this into marks and other currencies.) [snip] >WHEN, exactly, would it be appropriate to act? This reminds me of a Science Fiction story by H. Beam Piper called "A Planet for Texans" where as part of the laws of the planet (and the oath of office) was a statement that the politician was representing the interests of ALL of their constituents. Every constituent had the legal right (and duty) to register any protests of the politician's actions _in-person_ with said politician. Such protest could take any form up-to-and-including killing the SOB on the spot. In the story, this right was illustrated by a small farmer being charged will killing a Senator by hacking him to death with a machete (all legal protests are required to be registered in person and use of long range techniques such as car-bombs or snipping with rifles is not regarded as a valid protest) and we are shown his trial. The charge is not killing the Senator (which is by law the farmer's right since he felt that the Senator was violating his oath of office by misrepresenting him) but whether, in exercising this right, he used excessive force out of proportion to the actions that was being protested.

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Re: (NOISE) Re: PLA_gue Germ Terrorism
by Robert A. Rosenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 21:54 12/30/95, jonnyx wrote: > >Think that's fun? How 'bout this: given that the initial "mapping" >phase of the human genome project is nearly complete, and the huge >amount of genetic information available on the net, PLUS ever- >more-powerful-yet-less-costly computers anyone can purchase, just >how long do y'all think it'll be before some nut whips up a bug >that targets, say, people with negroid genetic characteristics? >Or epicanthic folds? Or blonde hair? This reminds me of a 1940's Novel by Science Fiction Author Robert A. Heinlein called "Sixth Column." In it the US has been conquered by an invasion from Asia and the resistance (such as it is) is a small Top Secret hidden US Army research center with some equipment that can act on people based on their genetic makeup. Thus when it is time to go after the invaders, it is done with guns that kill only Asians but have no effect on anyone-else.

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Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 14:17 1/1/96, Mike McNally wrote: >Seems to me at as soon as things like a general-purpose browser (and >associated TCP/IP stack & PPP or SLIP) becomes as easy to load up as >an AOL demo disk, and local ISP's are listed in the yellow pages, the >advantage of being able to pay a provider for nothing more than the >routing of IP packets so that the net as a whole can be explored (and, >perhaps, more services purchased) will FAR outweigh any of the goodies >the current big providers offer. But how many of them will be willing to forward certain newsgroups if doing so carries a mandatory 10 year prison term? Hint: count the number of narcotics dealers that advertize in your local yellow pages. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: SEY_use [NOISE]
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, David Lesher wrote: > > > > > > the concept is interesting... diplomatic immunity is not automatic in > > that it implies diplomatic recognition. does a rogue state enjoy the > > privilege of obviously bogus diplomatic passports? the diplomatic > > passport is a "gentleman's agreement" to facilitate trading intelligence > > officers --sarcastic maybe, truthful? been there, done that. > > A Dip Passport does nothing of the kind. > come on, David. stated and "real" use are often quite different. I meant what I said, literally: "...been there, done that." it's nice to believe that governments are above board --they never have been, and never will be --and Bubba is a prime example. I would buy a used car from Tricky Dick long before I would from Bubba! power is not only corruption, it is _deceit_! BTW, I do not disagree with your "protocol" in the slightest. PNG, and the trading of PNGs has been around ever since the French seemed to their language dominate foreign affairs --however, persona non gratis is rather explicit. and, I still wonder how the host country will treat "bogus" DPs from rogue states if they have more DPs than real citizens. uncle has been getting less suble these days.... > You are awarded stutus by your placement by the host country, on their > Diplomatic List. If you are there, fine; otherwise... Now, you'll never > get on that list without a Dip. Passport & recipricol agreement but it's > not enough... > > Your name can be removed by the host at any time (PNG'ed) but some kind > of warning is necessary so you can leave the host country prior to > expiration of the status. (Not much, however! I recall one case where it > was _literally_ "Be on the 4pm plane, or else.") If you are out of the > country already, you won't be back. (One person was, and his cat became > the ""PNG Pussy"" as she was shipped home the next day.) > > The Dip List being out-of-date caused considerable embarrassment to the > US during our invasion of Panama. Marines raided the Nicaraguan > Ambassador's Residence because the out-of-date copy at the US Mission > showed the _old_ address. > > -- > A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com > & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX > Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 > is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 >

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