December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

BUG Bounty...
by Peter Wayner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My publisher is reprinting _Digital Copyright Protection_, a book that describes how to use encryption and steganography to control digital data. I get to fix any problems that are out there. To encourage people who may have spotted errors, I'm offering a bounty of $20 to the first person who reports an error subject to the following limitations: * The errors must be technical. I appreciate anyone who wants to correct my grammar, but I think that these types of errors are too hard to pin down. We could spend more time arguing than solving them. * I reserve the right to aggregate errors and determine the right way to split them up. This isn't a loophole, it's just a way to prevent someone from noting a pattern and asking to be paid for each separate occurance. For instance, imagine that someone notes that I forgot to put a page number on a blank page at the front of the book. Is every page number after that wrong? I promise I won't use this as a loophole. * I reserve the right to make arbitrary judgements about the "first" person to submit a claim. This is to prevent a club of people from finding an error and reporting it in synchrony. I may choose to pay each person the $20 reward, choose one I feel is most deserving, or even split the reward n ways. It's up to me. I'll probably choose the first one unless there are extenuating circumstances. Thanks to everyone who takes part in this project. Let me know if you have any questions. In the past, I've found that few people reported the errors and I'm hoping that $20 will be enough of an inducement. Perhaps there are no errors there? This is the best way to prove a negative. Thanks again, Peter Wayner

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(eternity) Mailing List Archives
by Ryan Lackey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I've put the archives of the Eternity Mailing List (eternity(a)internexus.net) up on http://sof.mit.edu/eternity/mail-archive/ The mailing list is host to discussion of the theoretical issues behind Eternity service, Blacknet, Adam Back's Eternity USENET implementation, and my forthcoming Eternity DDS implementation. (7 articles got lost from the archive while I was setting it up. I sent them to itself as "missing articles 86-92". I'll restore their original headers at some point.) - -- Ryan Lackey rdl(a)mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNL5mBqwefxtEUY69AQFZrAgAhJA1xWUTf4nPKvT17U9tBnrPt2EwP9Hv dx3QruMmZqodAES7ot6h0YQN6Wi/Chw8RosjCqRXZq+zkayUBVX376gTF4i0+Vpf MocwfB8plXTmjfBahcfjb+WxeEuGEefw3BGCGKpYM/y5uZ925GJsq/+R6MeA2FjQ t+RWcqeMbSRAz4T3s8ThPQtr9dIi3dJgh4gEq9aAD+0cH4lOZFAsc3NA8YMWHptR M++ZvHYCLvwm5mb01bNJ9w8BGzU7dVFzxmJfxhZqb+0DJvK++8uQeflSUmILP9uf yXc+O+pYjuW2ho9ozzSlcbbSEPWdyAO03Qaty8bLdxy0DeaFmTWyoQ== =US5o -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Crypto Kong penetration.
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-- On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, James A. Donald wrote: >> If you try and shove that identity stuff onto people they >> will not do it. Too much like hard work. They will >> happily let the government licensed authorities do it for >> them. The PGP model clearly has not flown yet, and it is >> not going to fly. At 02:16 PM 1/15/98 -0500, Ray Arachelian wrote: > IMHO, this is pure grade A bullshit. If you included PGP > in MsMail, and Eudora and pine and elm from the get go, > everyone would use it. Proven false by experiment: Observe what happened with Verisign and MIME. The cost is not signing your stuff. The cost is setting up a key and publishing it, and getting other peoples keys and verifying them. Integration with Eudora makes it trivial to sign and to decrypt, *after* you have created and uploaded a key, and downloaded and verified other peoples keys, which is not trivial. People would rather the kindly benevolent government did that hard stuff for them. Verisign/MIME is *already* integrated into everyone's mailers, and they are not using it because Verisign key management is too hard, and Verisign key management is arguably more user friendly than PGP key management, though clearly less user friendly than Crypto Kong's (lack of) key management. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG s/7IS+OXDf+elZBg6ff+1Sq4aO4aoy9DRhH58rhP 4HFsRTnHTjnMnwGwjenI4jPJsM/0cy02LwoJAtbQ8 --------------------------------------------------------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the state. http://www.jim.com/jamesd/

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E (the java extension, not MDMA)
by Ryan Lackey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- After someone mentioned "E", Electric Communities (http://www.communities.com/) enhancement to the Java security model/language/etc., I checked it out It looks useful for a distributed agents based system (which is what I'm shooting for...the long-awaited goals mailing will either get sent today or tomorrow, depending on if I fall asleep immediately after sending this). I don't think anyone will argue that it's inherently bad. However, I'm interested in knowing what people think about using a vaguely proprietary product (albeit from a company with lots of cool people) in a piece of software like a reference Eternity implementation. I personally would prefer to stick to something as standard as possible, but E has a lot of features I'd want to use, and would end up re-implementing on my own. (I think if you had a JVM interface to eternity such that an object, its currency, where it should send its results, etc. in a standard form (the standard eternity agent encapsulation) were encapsulated, you could build a lot of Eternity out of interacting agents inside another Eternity implemention, inside ... up to inside a traditional network. (more on this idea later)) So, this is very rambling -- I mostly wonder how people feel about using a fairly non-standard language extension in something like Eternity. Ryan [ObDentistry: Wisdom teeth *really* suck. I want drugs.] - -- Ryan Lackey rdl(a)mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNL6JcKwefxtEUY69AQGs0Qf/TubvdreDInDvT89R8UGHd1TohudBCwYE KWq66zhULQh0YAdn2ZoL4rT9lhxWJ/QE0el8sLxmp9CgjwnMi8l7uA8eKB3RSi0s l6zgx96PJYLvAtI+S7gYcLAKf9RvHH5TzyWpT/WoiePb4Wd8YI0Z3DthdEdd4xMs gKqmyOO6JpX+SPXF89shN33j1LXfFmvq10XWlCW15XLyyA72WwoWbKQHu40uliAd rsM+CRacNN7K3Gc9OV4IWORnmIciZbJ1EZbO8kyZU3YlYvOB+QyZpnaYvFuzyLtS Iyud5WaVVRM7mGn9FS9WwSaxqxMrRRv25FutM9muHmAIufaxnMVeQA== =GQr/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Presidential advisor on the "problem of encryption"
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Presidential advisor Jim Steinberg spoke across the street from my office this afternoon at the Mayflower Hotel, addressing the European Institute. He said: ...we will pay a price if the United States and the EU cannot work together effectively to address the problem of encryption in a way that allows our cutting-edge industries to thrive, our citizens to have security in their communications, while at the same time protecting common public security interests. Translation: the government gets a backdoor to your encrypted files. Read on for more. (BTW, Steinberg is deputy assistant to the president for national security affairs. Also Deputy National Security Council Advisor and formerly the director of the State Department Policy Planning Staff.) Background: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/afternoon/0,1012,1626,00.html http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1385,00.html -Declan "We also need to find better ways to harness our efforts to counter the kinds of new crimes looming ahead in the next century. We have made considerable progress through the Summit of the Eight, taking new steps to increase airline security, to protect our infrastructures, to fight cyber-crime and, most important, to promote nuclear safety. We are encouraged that Prime Minister Blair has identified cooperative law enforcement as a major topic for the Birmingham Summit this May. We have been somewhat disappointed that Europe has not strengthened its cooperation with us on the vital third pillar. I am particularly concerned about the lack of enthusiastic support for the U.S.-sponsored international Law Academy in Budapest. Full integration in the Euro-Atlantic community means that all of our police forces must have the confidence to work together against transnational threats. It is vital that the emerging democracies enjoy the rule of law during their transition period, and we will pay a price if the United States and the EU cannot work together effectively to address the problem of encryption in a way that allows our cutting-edge industries to thrive, our citizens to have security in their communications, while at the same time protecting common public security interests. "But the gravest and most immediate challenge before us is to find more common ground between the United States and Europe in dealing with states that threaten our common interests. We have started to fall into a troubling pattern of good cop/bad cop. This pattern, whereby Europe provides the carrot, and the United States is left holding the stick, is unhealthy for both sides, and only benefits our common adversaries. While we all believe that dialogue and engagement are the preferred course, dialogue should not be an excuse for inaction when countries like Iraq fail to live up to Security Council resolutions, and other nations import weapons of mass destruction and export terror. This divergence compromises the effectiveness of our shared efforts." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to majordomo(a)vorlon.mit.edu with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Add me to the mailing list
by mws＠conch.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Chris Lewis's death?
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For the majority of you who have killfiled Dr. Dim V., add these killfile keywords: Chris Lewis cauce vznuri(a)netcom.com "Vladimir Z. Nuri" (nym for Dr. Dim) freedom-knights(a)jetcafe.org @pgh.org > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 03:05:56 -0500 > From: "Dr. Zeus" <zeus(a)alt.net> > Reply-To: zeus(a)alt.net > To: freedom-knights(a)jetcafe.org > CC: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, usenet(a)pgh.org > Subject: Chris Lewis's death? > > > >CAUCE, the enforcement branch of the Internet administration, is dedicated to > > >exterminating all SPAMMERS by any means necessary. CAUCE wants Chris Lewis and > > >all other SPAMMERS dead, and will gladly pay the $50,000 (canadian) reward to > > >whomever KILLS Chris Lewis and his family, who reside in a suburb of Ottawa: > > I think we should leave the family out of this, and instead killing > Chris Lewis, just get him fired from Nortel > > > >After you kill Chris Lewis and his family, please see http://www.cauce.org > > >for information on how to collect your CAUCE reward. > > > > This is fucking censorship! I'm putting the notice of the CAUCE reward on my > > web home page at http://www.panix.com/~guy, right next to the pictures of the > > pre-teen kids screwing. Fuck you, Zorch, you're next after C, P, and G Lewis. > > > > ---guy [ <- forgery ] > > Just6 who is this "guy?" MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Dr. Dim can't even spell. > From: Admin Pgh Plan <pghmain(a)pgh.org> > X-Sender: pghmain(a)www3.localweb.com > To: freedom-knights(a)jetcafe.org > cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: Chris Lewis's death? > > Let us concentrate on getting Lewis fired > rather than killing him. Killing Nortel > would be a much better idea. Dr. Goober is toothless. ---guy Which is handy, considering his favorite position is kneeling before Dr. Dim.

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Re: Microsoft Metaphors
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

declan(a)well.com wrote: > What are the best metaphors to use when talking about a browser > and an operating system? Is the combination like a car and an > engine, or a car and a roofrack? A pair of gloves? In this specific case it's more like garbage in a trash can.

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