December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Project: a standard cell random number generator
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Software-generated random numbers are likely to be of poor quality. There just isn't that much true randomness visible to computers. Several ways to build good hardware random number generators are known. But before hardware random number generators can be incorporated into common desktop computers, someone will have to put them into a small fraction of a chip. Currently, random number generators are chips or larger circuits. Nobody will pay to put these on a motherboard. But if a random number generating circuit occupied 1/1000th of a CPU chip or "multi-function I/O" chip, cost would not be a reason to leave it out. You probably can't build a hardware random number generator out of existing "gate array" gates or "standard cell" cells, because all the existing gates and cells are designed to behave completely predictably! It will take designing a new circuit structure. Do we know any solid state physics / circuit design experts who think this might be a fun thing to do? I bet you could get a paper out of it. And probably improve the world a few years later, when companies used your paper to close another hole in their computer security. John PS: It's possible that NSA collusion with chip-makers could produce bad pseudo-random-number generators in popular chips, giving NSA a back-door into any algorithm that used them. This would be harder to detect than poor software random number generators, since it requires prying the lid off the chip, getting out your microscope, and reverse-engineering the circuit, instead of just disassembling the software. In this sense, NSA ought to be *encouraging* Intel and IBM and Motorola to put "generate random bits" instructions into their instruction sets...

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Cypherpunks September Bay Area Meeting _Update_
by Hugh Daniel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Update, more detail in the Agenda and a request for folks to where their "Key Escrow Agent" jackets for a photo op (from behind I would guess, but bring your mirror shades in any case...). Please also note that this is the 5th anniversary of Cypherpunks Meetings! Can thing get much stranger then this? What: Cypherpunks September 1997 Bay Area Meeting When: Saturday September 13, 12 noon till 5pm Where: PGP World Headquarters, 2nd floor meeting room Bayview Bank Building, just south of Hwy. 92 2121 S. El Camino Real, San Mateo California http://www.pgp.com/pgpcorp/contactpgp.cgi#head Agenda: Cypherpunks at HIP'97, Lucky Green, David Del Torto Ecash announcement, Jeremey Barrett, BlueMoney Software Corp. Linux Onion Router, Jeremey Barrett Diffie-Helman Free of Patent, Three Cheers 13:00 Washingtoon Crypo Legislation update, Kelly ??? of PGP New FBI Anti-Crypto Bill, how to react, Eric Hughes Break Forbes Article background, everyone Domain name conference report, John Gilmore Attacks on US remailers etc., Bill Stewart ??? After: Eat dinner somewhere nearby yet to be decided... PGP Building Access: This is an Open Meeting on US Soil and it is free for anyone to attend. There is a minor building security formality due to the facilities being in a bank building: anytime after 12 noon, approach the Bayview Building's Information window (in the plaza, see below for directions), and ask the Guard on Duty to let you up to the 2nd Floor for the Cypherpunks meeting (use the passphrase "cypherpunks release code"). If you have any difficulty (eg. if the guard is on a break), simply call DDT at +1 415 730 3583 he I'll let you in. You can arrive at any time during the scheduled meeting hours, though earlier is better if you want to hear the interesting stuff.

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Re: Another Netscape Bug (and possible security hole)
by cman＠communities.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> >> >> Spent too much time last night playing with the Netscape bug; >> among other things wrote some code to throw various random binary >> URLs at Netscape. Netscape seems prepared to swallow the bait >> as long as the URL does _not_ contain characters screened as >> follows: >> >> if ((c != '"') && (c!='>') && (c!=0) && (c!='/') ) { >> >> This means you can't plant 0x00, 0x22, 0x3e or 0x2f. > > Did you check 0x20 and 0xa0? (space and shift-space) I'm sure >that a space will terminate the href in <a>. > This seems not to be the case. See: http://www.communities.com/foo/bad.html (which contains these bytes fairly early in the sequence, and still does a lovely job of crashing.) Showed the bug to EC's president, he immediately wanted to try it. It completely blew his PPC Mac (I've got a Powerbook 540C) out of the water. (Error of type 11, dialog with only the restart button.) My powerbook hangs on for a bit and then locks up. Onward to the exploit!

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Re: Another Netscape Bug (and possible security hole)
by herbs＠interlog.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:33 1995.09.22 GMT, Jeff Weinstein wrote: >In article <199509220612.CAA11441(a)clark.net>, rjc(a)clark.net (Ray Cromwell) writes: >> I've found a Netscape bug which I suspect is a buffer overflow and >> may have the potential for serious damage. If it is an overflow bug, >> then it may be possible to infect every computer which accesses a web >> page with Netscape. To see the bug, create an html file containing >> the following: > > Thanks for the report. I will make sure that this is fixed. > > --Jeff Don't just look at this bug, though... check ALL your static buffers and include code to check for overflow writes. For example, if Netscape is written in C or C++ and the above code uses strcpy(), you could change strcpy() to strncpy() everywhere (and then set the last char to null in case strncpy() didn't). Your programmers will know what I mean. Herb ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Herb Sutter 2228 Urwin, Suite 102 voice (416) 618-0184 Connected Object Solutions Oakville ON Canada L6L 2T2 fax (905) 847-6019

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house NSC member list
by landon_dyer＠wayfarer.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

from http://www.house.gov/nsc/members.htm according to the list, smith of washington was the only "no" vote in committee --------- The following is the official House National Security Committee Membership list for the 105th Congress. Republican Members Democrat Members -------------------------------- --------------------------------------------- Floyd D. Spence, South Carolina, Chairman Ronald V. Dellums, California, Ranking Member Bob Stump, Arizona, Vice-Chairman Ike Skelton, Missouri Duncan Hunter, California Norman Sisisky, Virginia John R. Kasich, Ohio John M. Spratt, Jr., South Carolina Herbert H. Bateman, Virginia Solomon P. Ortiz, Texas James V. Hansen, Utah Owen Pickett, Virginia Curt Weldon, Pennsylvania Lane Evans, Illinois Joel Hefley, Colorado Gene Taylor, Mississippi Jim Saxton, New Jersey Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii Steve Buyer, Indiana Martin T. Meehan, Massachusetts Tillie K. Fowler, Florida Robert A. Underwood, Guam John M. McHugh, New York Jane Harman, California James Talent, Missouri Paul McHale, Pennsylvania Terry Everett, Alabama Patrick J. Kennedy, Rhode Island Roscoe G. Bartlett, Maryland Rod R. Blagojevich, Illinois Howard "Buck" McKeon, California Silvestre Reyes, Texas Ron Lewis, Kentucky Tom Allen, Maine J.C. Watts, Jr., Oklahoma Victor F. Snyder, Arkansas Mac Thornberry, Texas Jim Turner, Texas John N. Hostettler, Indiana Allen Boyd, Florida Saxby Chambliss, Georgia Adam Smith, Washington Van Hilleary, Tennessee Loretta Sanchez, California Joe Scarborough, Florida James H. Maloney, Connecticut Walter B. Jones, Jr., North Carolina Mike McIntyre, North Carolina Lindsey O. Graham, South Carolina Ciro Rodriguez, Texas Sonny Bono, California Cynthia McKinney, Georgia Jim Ryun, Kansas Michael Pappas, New Jersey Bob Riley, Alabama Jim Gibbons, Nevada Bill Redmond, New Mexico "Democracy is government by the people and for the people, on the theory that the people should get the kind of government they deserve, good and hard." -- Robert Frezza, _The VMR Theory_

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Re: Fwd: Re: Project: a standard cell random number generator
by Dave_Neuenschwander＠va.arca.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jeff, Yes Fortezza cards can be instructed to produce a random number through one of its library calls (someday they'll have a real API). One of the diagnostic tools I had tested this function. What algorithm do they use? Haven't a clue. Sources say that the RNG implementation may vary from vendor to vendor (i.e., GTC, Spyrus, Mykotronix, etc.). Daven ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Arca Systems, Inc. Leaders in Security Integration ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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ip: Freeh: Kiddie Porn was Encrypted (fwd)
by Rev. Ben 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: sobel(a)epic.org (David L. Sobel) In an address at the International Cryptography Institute conference in Washington today, FBI Director Louis Freeh revealed that the Bureau encountered encrypted material during the course of its "Innocent Images" investigation. That operation recently led to dozens of nationwide arrests for alleged trafficking in child pornography via America Online. Freeh also disclosed that encrypted files were found during the course of a terrorism investigation in the Philippines involving an alleged plot to bomb a U.S. airliner and assassinate Pope John Paul II. The FBI Director characterized encryption as a "public safety" issue and stated that the FBI and law enforcement agencies around the world "will not tolerate" a situation in which the wide availability of encryption may impede those agencies' "public safety functions." While noting that the current U.S. government policy is to encourage the "voluntary" adoption of key-escrowed encryption techniques, Freeh raised the specter of a mandated "solution." Freeh stressed that the FBI "prefers" a "voluntary approach," but likened the encryption issue to last year's Digital Telephony debate, where the FBI first attempted to achieve voluntary compliance but eventually sought and obtained a legislative mandate to assure law enforcement access to digital communications. Freeh indicated that "if consensus is impossible" on the encryption issue, the FBI "may consider other approaches." Following his prepared address, Freeh was asked why the FBI needs key-escrow when it has apparently been successful in decrypting information encountered in the cited investigations. His response to this question was somewhat vague, leaving unanswered the question of whether or not the Bureau was, in fact, able to decrypt the encrypted files seized in the "Innocent Images" investigation. More information on this point is likely to emerge as these cases come to trial. Davis Sobel Legal Counsel Electronic Privacy Information Center http://www.epic.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Auto-signed with Bryce's Auto-PGP v1.0beta3 iQB1AwUBMGMxs75ALmeTVXAJAQE+8gL/SYfKkwRCROh5jPW/WmhHfpjze4u1W32H iA7jwFUilD1kawEzngqtmQoTwjYnpD8ShwDIIgmYnCNMwf4wYdm8FNZGvzenj/jx 8a20Xhw/aqLRL/qum/gMHTnhlEMTMlha =4U03 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Any talk of limiting _existing_ crypto?
by Syniker＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> Make it work simply for everyone with the push of a single button. It doesn't have to be secure, it has to be convenient. The only thing the masses need is the illusion of security. Then they will cry loudly when someone tries to take it away. Make it so that those who want strong security can jump through the necessary hoops to get it from the same program so that they can't take away yours and leave them with theirs.<< My feelings exactly... both levels 'need to be'.... but the simple level is what's needed most right now... I think a great number of people will be really angry at any potential seeming loss of 'privacy' in personal matters... or -- commercial for that matter... but most will have difficulty ... if it isn't an easy 'fix' for 'em... Larry.

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Re: Netscape to end Linux support?
by bret＠bjohns.win.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What? Who can i call at Netscape? I have not gotten a recent version to work with 1.2.8.. >> >> And the sad part is that now that they have announced that they are >> dropping their unofficial Linux support, I really want to hurt >> Netscape badly. >> >> Sigh. >> >Anyone got a pointer to this announcement? > >Damn! Just when I was starting to like them ... > >-- >Jeff Simmons jsimmons(a)goblin.punk.net >

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2 new MixMasters
by John Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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