December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Diana on a stick
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Rumor has it that Princess Diana will be put on a barbeque-style spit in her coffin, so that when the Buckingham Palace spin doctors are done with her, she will be able to roll over in her grave at a high rate of speed. Dr. Roberts ~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Death Pictures of Diana on InterNet!!!
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:43 PM 9/2/97 EDT, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: >Mike Duvos <enoch(a)zipcon.net> writes: > >> Now that pictures of Princess Diana trapped in the wreckage have been >> printed in European tabloids, it is only a matter of time before someone >> scans them and posts them to alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless. >> >> Clicking on such pictures, of course, is not the moral equivalent of >> having personally run Princess Diana off the road, regardless of what your >> neighborhood CPAC member would like you to believe. > >This is off-topic, but... Why do people refer to the bastards who ran >Di's card off the road by some weird italian name? In a case of Worst Timing Ever by an advertiser, Weight Watchers flyers hit the mailboxes in our area on Friday. They feature a cheesecake shot of Lady Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, saying that losing weight is: "HARDER than outrunning the papparazzi" I guess fat people are doomed.

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Re: Adding Memory to the Net
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is an interesting proposal. It would be easier for people who are new to this business if there were more specifics about how this would be implemented. I'm sure you have particular techniques in mind for splitting the data across servers, etc., but everybody else doesn't necessarily know what they are. Examples are nice because you can go over them one bit at a time. Here are some ignorant comments and questions. Mike Duvos wrote: > Bob makes a secure connection to a Trusted Agent doing business... Why is the Trusted Agent necessary? What does the agent do that Bob couldn't do himself? It seems like Bob could split up the data and pay the servers to hold it just as well as the agent. And he wouldn't have to trust anybody. > For the next 100 days, Bob and all of his friends may use the 256 > bit TAG/CONTEXT pair in place of Bob's data and may serve that data > for free any number of times off any network file system server. Or the people getting the data could also pay small fee for good service. Like a tip, if storing the data itself is the dominant cost. This makes it harder to attack the servers by saturating them with requests for data. Usenet has traditionally been free for posters. This model could continue if there were users who were willing to pay to see other people's posts. Servers would keep the data around so long as there seemed to be people asking for it. You could imagine the price going up over time as fewer people want to see it. At some point not enough people may want to pay as much money so it goes away. In this model the server operators would just be information speculators. And, if The Bad Guys started knocking out servers, there would be a powerful financial incentive to start serving the information that was eliminated since its market price should go up. > After 100 days, bob may fork over another 10 cents for another 100 > days, or his data will disappear. The TAG assigned to an Octet > String is unique, and no two strings have the same TAG, and no > string is ever assigned multiple tags, no matter how often it may be > entered and purged from the system. It would be nice if the ten cents sells a promise by the server to make the data available for some period of time in a way which is independently auditable. If the server stops carrying the data, Bob can publish his proof that he was defrauded. Because the facts would not be in doubt, it would be unlikely to happen frequently. > Users could boot their machines off the Network, and instantly see > gigabytes of software available to them. After syncing their cache > file system with the network, they could drop their PC off the roof, > buy another one, and by typing in just one TAG/CONTEXT pair, see all > their files again. This is very cool. You can hide 256 bits pretty easily, which makes The Great Satan's job harder. > Aside from replication done for reliability, there should be only > one copy of a file in the system at any time. If multiple users > submit the same file, there should be no more copies than if one > user submitted it. Would this really be worth the effort? If Bob wants to pay to put the file up twice, why not let just let him? Just Another Cypherpunk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNAuAZv+1rw4IkyBFAQG3WQf9EBR/peMkdc+0WT5W6O+L9KMf69artRy9 Fg8kCObbHlYEn/rCd0DRJ+Hd9YLfBz8aeo7YqaU3Lawe9+WW5hH0HbSYZe6vXeBN M5VKW4HJpcY4zapc1DCdCPW72KnWZjlrOsP3X+r1yi1KrLlsORNkl3M85dhS5vLz YRoZIIZE51vmrnV3mCA0dClljP2+e4c7FmxtO36spi7n/PPVwkP7xtHqsy762Ex/ iyxyRXCWnPMFHy0tJRWi25HeGqC2IRg22zQ5zk36c6z/JPS92Yabix/rnVWcazP4 3OnmT+nF3xy3mtdx9eMbPTBvxY28uOq+q2k/0/KjNmDjVRPRl2mlvw== =quQD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Europe puts pressure on FCC over accounting rate moves
by Bill Frantz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

####################################################### Telecoms Newsline A News Service for Telecoms Professionals Sponsored by Hewlett-Packard Issue 48: 2 September 1997 http://www.telecomsnewsline.com ######################################################## Europe puts pressure on FCC over accounting rate moves ------------------------------------------------------ The European Commission (EC) has warned the US regulator, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), that its unilateral action (see TN 46) could jeopardise the World Trade Organisation agreement on telecoms. The FCC has rejected the WTO agreements sanctioned by the ITU, and intends to impose its own cost-based accounting tariff for international call terminations. The US suffers an enormous trade deficit in telecoms services because its international calls are much cheaper than those in many other countries. This means that far more traffic originates in the US for termination overseas than comes in from abroad, resulting in American international operators paying out more than US$5 billion per year to foreign carriers for the termination of calls. The FCC has come up with its own benchmarking scheme which will be introduced over the next five years. This has enraged many nations who view it as dictatorial; it is also against the multilateral approach of the WTO agreement. Furthermore, in the absence of accurate data, the FCC has used countriesŒ GDP (rather than how much it costs overseas operators to handle calls) to set the settlement rates that US operators will be obliged to pay overseas carriers in future. At the moment the FCC feels that many countriesŒ accounting rates are inflated and bear no relation to the actual cost of providing the service. Poorer countries claim that it costs them much more to handle calls because they struggle with antiquated infrastructure and that they need the revenue from high accounting rates to cover the cost of modernising their networks. In addition, for less developed economies, the monies they receive in settlement rates are a precious source of hard currency. The debate looks set to run and run with the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) stuck between a rock and hard place, trying to find a compromise that is acceptable to all parties. ######################################################## Telecoms Newsline {c} 1997 Hewlett-Packard Co. Editor: Peter Judge Contributor: Annie Turner To subscribe to Telecoms Newsline send mail to <timalist(a)list.telecomsnewsline.com> with 'subscribe hp and your e-mail address' in message body. To unsubscribe, send mail to <timalist(a)list.telecomsnewsline.com> with 'unsubscribe and your e-mail address' in or message body. Or visit our website at http://www.telecomsnewsline.com If you like us, pass it on. This publication is free and may be re-posted. Entire issues may be posted without alteration or editing. Individual stories may also be re-posted, with this message attached. If you want to re-post all issues to a Web site or list, please appreciate our work by telling us. As Telecoms Newsline is available globally on the Internet, we cannot guarantee price or availability of products in your area. Editorial comments or questions please mailto:publisher@telecomsnewsline.com ######################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The Internet was designed | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | to protect the free world | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | from hostile governments. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Information
by Integration 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Anonymous wrote: > > > > > > |> >>Dave K-P <k.p(a)snet.net> writes: > > > > |> >> > > > > |> >>>> > > > Information, please! > > > > |> >>>> > > Dont go swimming on a full stomach. > > > > |> >>>> > Don't "escrow" your keys. > > > > |> >>>> Don't take advice from strangers. > > > > |> >>>Don't ask, don't tell. > > > > |> >>Don't eat yellow snow. > > > > |> >DonŽt spit, just swallow. > > > > | >Don't touch anything. > > > > Don't touch _there_. > > > Never piss into the wind. > > Don't pull on a psycho's cape. > Don't jump to confusions.. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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Re: Fate of Jews in America (fwd)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cypherpunks are in no position to make remarks about Jewish racism. Jews were far more welcoming to such as Sammy Davis, Jr. than many cypherpunks would be. "Off my porch, nigger!" would be the undoubted greeting from some of our ostensible leaders, as they take shotgun in hand.

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by naoqize＠worldnet.att.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Information (yeah, two in one night..so sue..)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Abstruse wrote: > > > > > > |> >>Dave K-P <k.p(a)snet.net> writes: > > > > > > |> >> > > > > > > |> >>>> > > > Information, please! > > > > > > |> >>>> > > Dont go swimming on a full stomach. > > > > > > |> >>>> > Don't "escrow" your keys. > > > > > > |> >>>> Don't take advice from strangers. > > > > > > |> >>>Don't ask, don't tell. > > > > > > |> >>Don't eat yellow snow. > > > > > > |> >DonŽt spit, just swallow. > > > > > > | >Don't touch anything. > > > > > > Don't touch _there_. > > > > > Never piss into the wind. > > > > Don't pull on a psycho's cape. > > > Don't jump to confusions.. > > Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. > > Don't *hate* the media.. > *become* the media" - Jello Biafra Don't talk to yourself (even by email).

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