December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Welcome to HotWired!
by newaccounts＠wired.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Welcome to HotWired! ++++++++++++++++++++ The verification number for "cypherpunks" is: 96472 You may also use the following URL to verify yourself, using cut and paste if you can: http://hard.wired.com/cgi-bin/users/ver?number=96472 Note: This is your *verification* number, *not* your HotWired password. Your HotWired password is the password you gave us when you created your account, and has not changed (and won't change unless you change it). Please type (or copy and paste) this number into the verification form. To reach the verification form, connect to HotWired, click Yes to signify that you are a member, and click on the region of the image map that reads, "You should verify NOW." (You really should.) You can also reach this directly as http://www.hotwired.com/Login/verify.html You will then be able to take advantage of the full range of HotWired services. Thanks! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HotWired FAQ What Is HotWired? HotWired is new thinking for a new medium. We call it a cyberstation, a suite of vertical content streams about the Digital Revolution and the Second Renaissance with an integrated community space. While HotWired is currently bound by technological limitations that restrict bandwidth, it represents the genetic blueprint that will evolve into the overarching media environment of the next century. At the core of HotWired's editorial is point of view. We are not in the content business, we are in the context business. People today don't have the time or inclination to make sense of the data flood. HotWired is Wired's answer to the need for professionalism in a new medium that has been filled until now with something that resembles public access television programming. HotWired is live, twitching, the real-time nervous system of the planet. What Does HotWired Look Like? HotWired is a stunning reinterpretation of the World Wide Web. Developed by Creative Director Barbara Kuhr of the award-winning design firm Plunkett + Kuhr, HotWired's look is clean and bright, filled with playful logos by Dutch designer Max Kisman and bursting with world-beat colors. HotWired can be accessed on the Internet via the World Wide Web and a client application such as Mosaic or NetScape (though be warned, NCSA Mosaic for Windows has a bug which makes it unusable). How Is HotWired Different? HotWired doesn't look like any online service out there - it zigs where all the others zag. (HotWired's unofficial design watchword was "war on bevelled edges.") Its content and perspective are as innovative as those of its mothership, Wired magazine, while at the same time being utterly different. Its community space is technologically unrivalled - the first graphical conferencing system for the World Wide Web. Isn't Advertising Anathema on the Net? The Net community does indeed react negatively to invasive advertising - the kind of spamming conducted recently by the Arizona lawyers Canter and Siegel, which elicited a massive rejection by the Net's immune system. The advertising on HotWired is the opposite of invasive. Each advertiser is accessible only through a single discreet banner at the head of a content section. Most advertising is 90 percent persuasion and 10 percent information; advertising on HotWired reverses this ratio. And the privacy of members is guaranteed by HotWired's unqualified commitment to never divulge a member's personal information to advertisers. Why HotWired, Why Now? Because while Big Media and the telecom behemoths have been busy forming "strategic alliances" to build the "information superhighway" and sending out press releases about the tests they're launching any day now, thousands of companies and millions of people have quietly built a new interactive medium called the Internet. This medium is not magazines with buttons, any more than television was radio with pictures. It's a new medium with a new aesthetic, a new commercial dynamic. Many media companies shovel their leftovers into the online world and call it content. HotWired is not one of them. Where Wired is a clear signpost to the next level, HotWired is operating from that next level. HotWired is a constantly evolving experiment in virtual community. It's Way New Journalism. It's Rational Geographic. Today is like 1948; a new medium has reached critical mass. We're trying to help define the future of that medium before it ends up like television. So if you're looking for the soul of our new medium in wild metamorphosis, our advice is simple. Get HotWired. What Does HotWired Cost? HotWired is free to members. HotWired's revenue model is similar to broadcast media - content supported by sponsors. HotWired's sponsors are some of the bluest chip advertisers in America, including IBM, AT&T, Volvo, Sprint, MCI, Zima (Coors), Internet Shopping Network (Home Shopping Network), Club Med, etc. What Hotwired Is Not HotWired is not Wired magazine with another name (Wired works perfectly well in print, thank you). It's not a so-called online magazine (print content reduced to ASCII and shoveled into another medium, narrowband interactive). It's not video-on-demand (a pie-in-the-sky marketing concept created by out-of-touch old-media executives to justify their headlong rush into a new medium they don't understand, broadband interactive). It's not an online service like Prodigy or AOL (now rendered obsolete by the explosion of interest in the Internet and the development of the Web and graphical browsers). And like Wired before it, HotWired is not a cold, marketing concept, but the heartfelt expression of the passion of its creators. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLu6SbCoZzwIn1bdtAQHuEwGA3eIONz/osE9684/lB2U8qXM+e2NxJhYw nQCC0yOux4zkXVvIfGMnlmP4SaTIQvNy =n77t -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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re: BofA + Netscape
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> It seems that Perry and other are flaming Netscape for doing things > their own way. > Yes, Netscape have made a lot fuckups. But they are out there > bringing really cool crypto to the masses. > First guy on the block always does a lot of dumb fuckups. This is by far the most intelligent commentary I've read so far in this "NetScape" debate. Does anybody remember PGP 1.0? Released in the summer of 1991, using the Bass-O-Matic cipher... which was worthless. This list didn't come into existence until around the same time PGP 2.0 came out. Thus, nobody railed against the weaknesses of PGP like they are railing against NetScape. So maybe the first version of NetScape could use some enhancements. Just like PGP 1.0 did. Nobody would argue that based on the direction of PGP 1.0, the whole PGP project should be scrapped. Or would they? I think NetScape is doing overall good. Sure, improvements can be made. But SOMETHING is being accomplished.

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Encrypted Credit Card Numbers For Transmission....
by werewolf＠io.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I thought about this recently when I bought a subscription to Wired for X-Mas for a friend. Why don't organizations like Wired (who are ostensibly closely connected to the 'net) not have public keys (ie through Viacrypt, as they are a commercial enterprise) that subscription purchasers could encrypt a credit card number to them, and then e-mail that cyphertext file to them for processing. The company could then snail mail to the purchaser confirmation of the cc purchase just like what happens for a credit card phone purchase. It seems straightforward or am I missing something? I mean, PGP is extremely widespread, and other organizations encrypt data for transmission between points with DES, so use of encryption is hardly a novel concept for business to swallow (particularly a magazine like Wired, who likely have a reasonably encryption knowledgeable readership or potential readership). Routine use of encryption at this simple level would likely get the ball rolling in the direction of other endeavors, like e-cash, or at worst become another convenience for the customer and allow encryption and the 'net to gain wider acceptance. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBLu6Cl3BFBj7pSNyhAQGzRQf/WjlkdJaLfTpc8cdDF6EV6IoGN0P0i6l1 dXPMoqRwNn3Aol04pBRQn3+KrK5GaII9ZopRWtEysCzIdv4nbA2t6qLZBZ8oXUgg 3o5Bdp+RIcgXNPtoRmZH5yDGw8kOQqgBH3glWsL25v2BOd87ic10HbhjSZn9FfWD s0qNKFblbqOb6Ur/XZklfjEpPJbE8rvVawt6RQqDO1ky5rKxrgDeGeQVfnu8m7ti fFo9lqTGpBKW9vk8JnTpF5gJvgTcj/iPxNzzeRw6UBD/nIDV2Ttg/lJni5yhGOxe 5LLINeaGVDvtioGbcehz0veXFZ5t7pNJgRxbIIG0AgA+plP0RQdp8A== =iUO3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Using HotWIRED without provoking junk mail
by L. McCarthy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > I get enough junk mail already, and I don't want vendors to be able to > capture market research at the browsing level (I haven't > looked at WIRED's server for precisely this reason). A while back someone established a HotWIRED account in the name "cypherpunks" with password "cypherpunks" to get around this. I make a point of mentioning that whenever I point someone to HotWIRED. I'm assuming here that they're not collecting identification data in some other way (if you're not using Netscape ;). - - -L. Futplex McCarthy; PGP key by finger or server "We've got computers, we're tapping phone lines; I know that that ain't allowed" --Talking Heads - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBLu55rGf7YYibNzjpAQExGwP/S0ahTCimJlYKQCK1DGjHbdSxcaovbHHI Ybtcw8iaGwYZxmEWcK5fM8tRqORV99oGUISdynMrFCw0VV+cvozot4q+GSMCpcND uIsSgkw/D3F3XWfWLtJDocme3Joot1cARfmo6lj7YmqBjHS2e27OOke8BQ2JeOBh 3wceidNaEKk= =fWzB - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLu564ioZzwIn1bdtAQExZwF9EEHP+++Y3ODxhxSZPY3IeVSC0JtOc7vc xu2avrEaeNetk0yPogy1+tmjwb6JC2e8 =qVmS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Legal implications of a PGP DLL
by bshantz＠spry.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know this has been hashed over recently, but I never found out (or don't remember) what was decided in regards to the legal implications of a PGP functional DLL for Windows. If a company (i.e. SPRY, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.) were to write a PGP DLL and make it publicly available, would that be legal? Viacrypt just straight out charges too damn much to make it worth licensing. So, if a company wants to make it's mail client PGP friendly, but not actually supply the encryption algoritm, etc. Would a DLL be legal if it were in the public domain? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>INTERNETWORKING THE DESKTOP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Brad Shantz bshantz(a)spry.com Senior Software Engineer SPRY Inc. Direct #: (206)-442-8251 316 Occidental Ave. S. Main #: (206)-447-0300 Suite 316 Fax #: (206)-447-9008 Seattle, WA 98104 WWW URL: http://WWW.SPRY.COM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Public Key at: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html Or email: pgp-public-keys(a)pgp.ai.mit.edu Subj: GET bshantz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Re: An Attempt to Hobble SAFE Crypto Bill (fwd)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:22:48 -0400 From: Alan Davidson <abd(a)cdt.org> To: "--Todd Lappin-->" <telstar(a)wired.com>, fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Re: An Attempt to Hobble SAFE Crypto Bill At 11:03 AM -0800 7/25/97, --Todd Lappin--> wrote: > >An Attempt to Hobble House Crypto Bill > > by Rebecca Vesely ... > The amendment, by Representative Benjamin Gilman > (R-New York), who chairs the International Relations > Committee, would make it unlawful to "manufacture, > distribute, sell, or import any product within the United > States that can be used to encrypt communications or > information if the product does not permit the real-time > decryption of such encrypted communications or > information." The full text of this very frightening amendment is now available on CDT's Web site at: http://www.cdt.org/crypto/legis_105/SAFE/index.shtml#970725 It's a chilling glimpse at the Administration's view of a mandatory-domestic-key-recovery world. This is the first time I've seen anyone put such a provision through the House Legislative Counsel process. -- Alan Alan Davidson, Staff Counsel 202.637.9800 (v) Center for Democracy and Technology 202.637.0968 (f) 1634 Eye St. NW, Suite 1100 <abd(a)cdt.org> Washington, DC 20006 PGP key via finger

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(fwd) Newt says Clipper Chip is Dead
by jamesd＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Xref: netcom.com alt.culture.usenet:6563 alt.rave:37968 Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet,alt.rave Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!crl.dec.com!crl.dec.com!pa.dec.com!mtshasta.snowcrest.net!ken From: ken(a)snowcrest.net ("Ken Stuart") Message-ID: <82739.ken(a)mtshasta.snowcrest.net> Reply-To: ken(a)snowcrest.net Subject: Newt says Clipper Chip is Dead Date: Tue, 13 Dec 94 20:09:25 PDT X-Received: by usenet.pa.dec.com; id AA29312; Tue, 13 Dec 94 20:15:43 -0800 X-Received: by pobox1.pa.dec.com; id AA20213; Tue, 13 Dec 94 20:15:37 -0800 X-Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com (5.65/10Aug94) id AA16575; Tue, 13 Dec 94 20:14:24 -0800 X-Received: from [204.94.225.49] (sl1.mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.49]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA15046; Tue, 13 Dec 1994 20:13:23 -0800 X-Minuet-Version: Minuet1.0_Beta_16 X-Popmail-Charset: English X-To: alt.rave.usenet(a)decwrl.dec.com, alt.culture.usenet.usenet(a)decwrl.dec.com Lines: 16 Hello, On his weekly call-in TV show on National Empowerment Television tonight, Newt received a call asking about his opinion on the Clipper Chip, and he replied that it was a moot point, in that the Clipper chip concept was designed for a condition that no longer exists. So, paranoiacs, lighten up! :-) - respect to all, Ken ken(a)snowcrest.net (primary address) (if no answer, try ken.stuart(a)tigerteam.org ) -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we James A. Donald are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. jamesd(a)netcom.com

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the idiot spamming people who post to alt.2600 through my remailer
by Erich von Hollander 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Doomsaying, development, and deployment
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Why use the PGP libs? Would it be easier to use swIPe as an engine for encryption? If you do use swIPe, name the package link IP encryption. Adam Steve wrote: | > | How about starting a todo list so we can reach a consensus on a | > | prioritized list of goals. This may help us come up with projects | > | we can work together on. I'm itching to do some coding... | > | > Some projects worth doing: | > | > a link encryptor | | If someone would recommend the best version of the pgp libs, | I'll think about adding it to plug-gw (from TIS). That would | provide a ready made transparent shell for connecting | systems. -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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Re: McCoy is Right! New Mail Format to Start Now.
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oh, get real, Lucky! My mail reader here is neither inadequate nor (particularly) buggy - it's good old "Mail", and when somebody posts MIME mail, it quite accurately shows me the real ASCII the mail is made of - I wish my other mail reader would do that. (It's Microsoft Mail, a closed, buggy, really appalling system that chokes on messages with more than 64K of non-attachment message body, and chokes badly on >132K.) If there were a convenient MIME viewer to pop in as my PAGER, I might have mail use it rather than less -sc, my current preference. But meanwhile, a MIME is a terrible thing to waste.....

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