December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: RC4
by HALVORK＠sofus.hiof.no 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>It occurs to me that if the code has not been posted to sci.crypt, then >some cypherpunks reader outside the US/Canada should do so. > >Bruce Ops... I never saw this original posting. Could somebody please re-post it? Please include RC4 in the Subject. - Halvor Kise jr. (from Norway (

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RC4 Source Code
by Tom Rollins 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello, Strange, I didn't see the RC4 code at my site. Would someone that saved it please E-mail me a copy. Thanks, Tom Rollins <trollins(a)debbie.telos.com>

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PGP on Multiuser machines
by snyderra＠dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 4:25 PM 9/12/94, SAMUEL KAPLIN wrote: >It's highly doubtful that they could physically get to my computer without >my knowledge. I service alarms for a living. I work for the company who >monitors my alarm. I am the only person who knows the specs on my alarm. It >would be pretty tough to conceal a court order to suspend the monitoring >from me. Someone would tip me off. Plus the system will communicate with >me via 2 other methods that no one knows about. Pretty doubtful. But they *could*. It would involve a lot of work, but theoretically, they could, right? That still puts it in the catagory of "trade off." Besides, I suspect your situation isn't a common one. ;-) >I guess it depends on your level of paranoia or guilt. :) If I was just >putzing around with the software, then I wouldn't be too concerned. If I >was actually doing something illegal or confidential with the software >then I would be greatly concerned. But under no circumstances would I >consider that arrangement secure. If the cops nail this guy, he has no one >to blame but himself. He hanged his own ass. I don't consider myself "putzing" around with the software. Besides the fact that the more encrypted messages are out there, the less "suspicious" one becomes, I send things like credit card numbers and the like via email. Nothing that would embarass me, but not something I like to have floating around. >Then you have the possibility of people sending you secure messages on a >compromised key. (The one on the Unix Box) In most cases, its not the >technology that nails you, it's human error. Take for example the recent Good point. Although I would hope that if I were doing something nefarious, I would have smarter partners than that. :-) Bob -- Bob Snyder N2KGO MIME, PGP, RIPEM mail accepted snyderra(a)post.drexel.edu PGP & RIPEM keys on key servers When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.

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Re: RC4
by Derek L Davis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Text item: Text_1 I didn't see the RC4 post either (subject didn't catch my eye) and now its gone. Anyone care to repost??

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PGP2.6.1
by rparratt＠london.micrognosis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: RC4
by doug＠OpenMind.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Ah. So the odd subject line resulted in many people not seeing. I don't >know if any US residents would be willing to repost. I'm not. > >Bruce Would you be willing to post simply the subject line and the date of the posting? Many of us may be able to find the post with that information. Doug

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Alleged RC4 source code (message header only)
by sommerfeld＠orchard.medford.ma.us 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In case any of you had filtered this one out based purely on sender and subject, I've enclosed the *headers* of the message and its first paragraph. The message also contained two source files, "rc4.h" and "rc4.c", implementing a stream cypher which is based on incremental shuffling of a permutation of the numbers 0..255, and seems to be fairly well-suited for efficient implementation in software. For obvious reasons, I'm not including the source files here. ------ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 22:11:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199409100311.WAA12423(a)jpunix.com> To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com From: nobody(a)jpunix.com Subject: Thank you Bob Anderson Remailed-By: remailer(a)jpunix.com Complaints-To: postmaster(a)jpunix.com Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk SUBJECT: RC4 Source Code I've tested this. It is compatible with the RC4 object module that comes in the various RSA toolkits. ------

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Re[2]: RC4
by Davis, Derek L 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The RC4 post was subjected: "Thanks to Bill ..." (I think) My copy is gone, but someone must still have it. Please repost at least to cypherpunks. Thanks. The following mail header is for administrative use and may be ignored unless there are problems. ***IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS SAVE THESE HEADERS***. Precedence: bulk Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: RC4 From: doug(a)OpenMind.com (Doug Cutrell) To: schneier(a)chinet.chinet.com (Bruce Schneier) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 08:35:40 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <aa9b76e41c02100329f9(a)[198.211.130.8]> X-Sender: doug(a)bluesky.openmind.com Received: from [198.211.130.8] by BlueSky.OpenMind.com (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 13 Sep 94 8:32:16 -700 Received: from MAILQ by OPENMIND (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 13 Sep 94 8:32:22 -700 Received: from OPENMIND/MAILQ by BlueSky.OpenMind.com (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 13 Sep 94 8:32:47 -700 Received: from BlueSky.OpenMind.Com by beeblebrox.tbyte.com (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA10087; Tue, 13 Sep 94 08:32:47 -0700 Received: from beeblebrox.tbyte.com by toad.com id AA27882; Tue, 13 Sep 94 08:40 Received: by toad.com id AA27888; Tue, 13 Sep 94 08:40:13 PDT Received: from toad.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQxhet29743; Tue, 13 Sep 1994 11:45:12 -0400 Received: from relay2.UU.NET by hermes.intel.com (5.65/10.0i); Tue, 13 Sep 94 08 Received: from hermes.intel.com by ormail.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0qka63-000MNxa; Tue, 13 Sep 94 08:48 PDT Received: from ormail.intel.com by relay.jf.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0qka64-000twca; Tue, 13 Sep 94 08:48 PDT

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e$: WSJ, CyberCash, and the Falling Barometer
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On the front page of today's (9/13/94) Wall Street Journal Marketing section (Page B-1, lower right hand column) is an article about internet commerce. It talks about a group of companies who formed a consortium called CyberCash. The companies and players include the guy who started Interop, and RSA. They are claiming the ability to do credit cards and bank drafts and they say they are in negotiations with Chaum about licencing digital cash. Anonymity was specifically mentioned as a distinguishing marketable feature of digital cash. They still don't get it, but they will soon enough, I suppose. BTW, there was a veiled reference to Bibliobytes(?). At least the WSJ got their story straighter than the Times did. Like I said before, Secure Mosaic meant that "Wallets" and "Cash Registers" for digital cash were imminent. They're not imminent anymore, they're here, and they were just announced at Interop this week. I should have realized something was up, the barometer was falling at a pretty good clip. It started when I was chatting offline with someone from buyinfo and they said that they were under non-disclosure about something very big, but that I would know about it when Interop opened. Then, last Tuesday, I got an interesting cold call from a stringer for a largeish venture capital outfit in Menlo Park. He was doing due dillegence and wanted to ask me some questions about Internet Commerce, and in particular, about digital cash. I told him what I knew, and referred him to some of the senior members of these lists for much better information. I bent his ear a bit about off-line cash underwriting, and I hope it's healing now. I also sent him all of the traffic I had archived since I subscribed to cypherpunks having to do with the internet and the economics thereof. He had the buyinfo and imp-interest archives already. He seemed to think a "schmooze" conference on e$, including invitations to all the usual crypto suspects, plus people in financial operations, regulatory, political, and the institutional investor community might be a good idea. When I came back from a hike(!) in the White Mountains this weekend, I found at long last a reply to my query to DigiCash, Inc. for information. I answered the beta test questionnaire they sent me and sent it back. The barometric pressure was going down very fast all last week, and I didn't even realize it until this morning. My wife got a membership at the Harvard club. A couple of months ago we decided it was time for me to exercise (I push 350), so I work out in the morning there and walk back to the office in my house here in Roslindale (about 7 miles) about 3 or 4 times a week. (ever see the senior senator from Massachusetts' bare butt? You will... at the Harvard Club) This morning, when I looked at the Journal in the locker room, I let out a whoop. (not from seeing Teddy. From seeing the WSJ e$ article.) I was born in El Paso. I whoop a lot. Everyone in the locker room looked at me like I was from Yale, or something. Jeez. I hope we don't get blackballed. A very happy Tuesday to you all, Bob Hettinga Oh. If anyone's crazy enough to want to work on the technology part (development and integration and eventual operations) for very small startup offline digital cash underwriter, let me know. I've already started talking to a finance guy and a (very) part-time treasury management person. It also looks like the legal stuff has been figured out, or CyberCash wouldn't have done a triple-gainer into the pool like that. Any job offer would be contingent upon funding, of course. ;-). ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) "There is no difference between someone Shipwright Development Corporation who eats too little and sees Heaven and 44 Farquhar Street someone who drinks too much and sees Boston, MA 02331 USA snakes." -- Bertrand Russell (617) 323-7923

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Int'l Workshop on Electronic Commerce
by LAURENN%smtpgate＠earth.wri.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

With all the discussion relating to financial transactions on this list, I thought I'd forward the following call for papers that appeared in INFOSYS this weekend. -- LaurenN(a)wri.org * CALENDAR OF UPCOMING EVENTS * *The INFOSYS Calendar of Upcoming Events is updated * *fortnightly and can be obtained in the following ways: * * * *--E-mail: send the following one-line message to * * listserv(a)american.edu: get infosys calendar * *--FTP: anonymous FTP to ftp.american.edu; file is \infosys\ * * infosys.calendar * *--Gopher: gopher to auvm.american.edu; choose INFOSYS * *--WWW: http://gopher://auvm.american.edu/INFOSYS * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** 0298* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** CALL FOR PAPERS - International Workshop on Electronic Commerce Richard Holowczak, Rutgers Univ <holowcza(a)andromeda.rutgers.edu> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ACM International Workshop on Electronic Commerce In conjunction with The Third International Conference on Information and Knowledge Management (CIKM'94) December 2, 1994 National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Gaithersburg, Maryland OBJECTIVE The workshop will provide an international forum to discuss evolving research issues and applications in the area of Electronic Commerce. Invited speakers from industry, universities and government will present their experiences and vision for the future. The Workshop will begin with a kick-off dinner on Thursday, December 1 evening and a full program on Friday, December 2. The final version of the papers will be included in an edited book that will be published by Springer Verlag as part of its Lecture Notes Series on Computer Science. INFORMATION TO AUTHORS Authors interested in participating in the workshop are invited to submit 2-3 page abstract by October 10 to: Prof. Nabil R. Adam Rutgers University 180 University Avenue Newark, NJ 07102 Fax: (201) 648-1459 E-mail: ecomm(a)adam.rutgers.edu Notification of acceptance will be sent by October 25. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ABOUT INFOSYS INFOSYS is an electronic newsletter for faculty, students, and practitioners in the field of Information Systems. INFOSYS publishes news items, requests for assistance, announcements of professional meetings and conferences, position notices, a calendar of upcoming events, comments on recent publications, abstracts of papers that authors are willing to share, and other items of interest to the Information Systems community. INFOSYS is published biweekly, more frequently if volume requires it. INFOSYS operates as an electronic mailing list on listserv software at American University in Washington, DC. The editor is Dennis W. Viehland <d.viehland(a)massey.ac.nz>. To subscribe to INFOSYS send the following one-line electronic mail message to listserv(a)american.edu (Internet) or listserv@auvm (Bitnet): subscribe infosys yourfirstname yourlastname (e.g., subscribe infosys John Smith). You will receive a welcome letter that will tell you more about INFOSYS and listserv. Guidelines for submitting articles to INFOSYS are published in the Welcome message each new subscriber receives (or e-mail "GET infosys welcome" to listserv(a)american.edu) Send articles to infosys(a)american.edu or d.viehland(a)massey.ac.nz. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ End of NEWSLTR Digest - 12 Sep 1994 to 13 Sep 1994 - Special issue ******************************************************************

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