December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: something I've always wondered
by danisch＠ira.uka.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Does DES (or name your favorite encryption algorithm) produce as output > all possible cyphertexts of length L, given all possible conbinations of > keys and plaintexts of length L? Choose any cyphertext and a random key and decrypt the cyphertext with that key. Now you have a key and a plaintext which produce this cyphertext. Hadmut

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sorry...
by Mikolaj Habryn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

apologies for last message...

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Re: Unofficial Release
by trollins＠debbie.telos.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry says; >Yup, you have it on me. I guess it is important to lower the >possibility of someone cracking your key by brute force from lower >than the odds that all the oxygen atoms in the room you are in will >spontaneously end up on the wrong side of the room to lower than the >odds that all the oxygen atoms in the world will end up on the wrong >side of the planet. After all, we are fooling with lives. Perry, I don't know the probability of oxygen atoms moving to Japan or anywhere else. (who said Japan was the wrong side of the planet) And, I don't think that anyone will attack my keys by brute force. I do think that someone will be trying to crack messages on a random basis. That is by trying IDEA keys with otherwise idle cpu time on a large base of message trafic. (not my one little pathetic message). Given estimates that the IDEA algorithem is equivlent to a 3000-bit rsa key. I am bringing the rsa part of PGP up to par with the IDEA part of PGP. (just hitting on the weakest link first) So, call me paranoid or joe, I will strive to reach MY crypto comfort level. And that seems to be a higher level of crypto than you have. Who cares ! Use whatever crypto you want. tom

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Re: HOW TO MUTATE AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:57:11 -0700 > From: Judith Milhon <stjude(a)well.sf.ca.us> > > I, Judith Milhon, am not a fink. I was at the first meating of this > weird coalescence. I even thought up the name "cypherpunk." I write I wasn't at the first meeting. I wasn't the one who coined the term "cypherpunk". I heard that Andy Hawks did. Cat Shoe

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PGP Comments and Questions.
by trollins＠debbie.telos.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey, Got some comments about the future of PGP. I would like to compair PGP with DOS. It has gotten a large following and that is good. It has it's limitations and that is bad. Like DOS, expanding it's functions seems to be trouble. Trouble from the tech side and from government. I believe that we should lay a framework so that people around the world can modify and enhance various parts of PGP and not get in each others way. After all, how much can 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 people do vs thousands on the net. Also if the code is modular, people in the US can work on sections that do not contain the crypto engines. Bulk crypto engines could be replaced and not get in the way of the Public key stuff. So, now for some questions.... As I understand the Gnu CopyLeft. People can make changes and pass them on with the source code and NOT step on anyone's toes. Why then should there be an official release by a small group of people that still have bugs in the code after N years. An official framework which will allow for expansion and change is in order. Is Mathew in the UK a named remailer for Phil Z? (just kidding) How fine do you have to divide the crypto code before it is not considered crypto code anylonger. (for US ITAR regs) How do the French get around the anti crypto laws? I want to know before those laws get enacted here in the US.

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Re: Archives?
by ghio＠cmu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Roger Bryner <bryner(a)atlas.chem.utah.edu> wrote: > Hello, > Are there archives for this mailing list? ftp cs.cmu.edu /afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr12/mg5n/public/cypherpunks It's a symlink to CMU's internal news directory. You will need to get the file cypherpunks.index to figure out the filenames. The file also contains some binary data for the local news software here, you will have to just ignore that. Not exactly the easiest way to look things up, but it works. Messages are kept one month.

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Re: Need advice on starting to make PGP library
by gtoal＠an-teallach.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Too late! It's been done, by Pr0duct Cypher... G (Some of us are even using it...)

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INFORMATION WARFARE
by Brian D Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- For those who asked: INFORMATION WARFARE Chaos on the electronic Superhighway Winn Schwartau Thunder's Mouth Press ISBN 1-56025-080-1 I should add that at least one member of this list wrote and doesn't share my opinion of it. Let the buyer beware! I am still enjoying it immensely! Brian Williams Extropian Cypherpatriot "Cryptocosmology: Sufficently advanced communication is indistinguishable from noise." --Steve Witham "Have you ever had your phones tapped by the government? YOU WILL and the company that'll bring it to you.... AT&T" --James Speth -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLghCANCcBnAsu2t1AQHkpQP+KQ7lnUMJJNQsdW9pYZYTLVNLXHQDq9L5 ruX+zearfvplpwtke/0YE+8X6dwuPCtHalzmBfo921euX9mN/eaSOGhfmagQ80wY U6G/AT2ox1s5XbvtRHoqA9/glAiMZrRH+hXNNmEMXMu0GJSdDIMWDKXTglyiXlEt Uc20JPC+Cng= =BbYI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Unofficial Release
by trollins＠debbie.telos.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry @ insi.com says: >Way overkill. Remember that 2000 is not just twice as hard as 1000 -- >even breakthroughs that improved factoring speed by factors of >thousands couldn't break 2000 bit keys any century soon, if ever. I'd >worry more about my key management -- before putting in even the >effort to crack a 1500 bit key they are likely to just listen in on >the emmissions from your keyboard and monitor. Ahhhh, It is nice to know that people won't even TRY to crack big keys. Cracking, you know, is a lot like the lotto. You MIGHT guess the correct key on the first TRY. But, if you don't TRY, then you won't crack the key. "Gotta play to win" -tom

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Groups Hail New Bill For
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com C >This is a press release put out by People for the American Way and C >the Media Access Project last week. C > C >Senate Communications Subcommittee Chairman Inouye's bill guarantees C >access on the "superhighway" for non-commercial and governmental C >uses. "Without this protection, we may not get anything besides home C >shopping and movies on demand," said Leslie Harris, Director of Public C >Policy for the People For the American Way Action Fund (PFAWAF). C >"We hope -- and expect -- that some day the new technologies C >will provide so much capacity at such low prices that there will be C >no >need to reserve space for public use. The bill directs the Federal C >Communications Commission to phase out the `public right of way' if C >and when that happens." But, he added, "It is critical that local C >government and non-profit groups have access to the new technologies C >right away. What complete and utter garbage. With monthly access costs in the $20 range and an incredibly diverse marketplace under construction without "public interest" power-mad fascists involved in it, such whining shows nothing more than their view of the gullibility of the public. All networking proposals involve two-way networks and private voice and data systems that anyone who cares to can use to communicate with anyone who cares to. Any "public interest group" that cares to (and many have) can put aside its tin cup and get online. If 12-year-olds can do it... DCF "Whether or not the residents of that fetid swamp between Virginia and Maryland try to help us or hinder us, we'll build Market Earth on the nets. And there's not a damned thing on God's good green earth that they can do about it." --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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