December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Robert A. Hayden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I noticed taht the 'Reply-To:' header now replies to cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com. Is it supposed to be this way? ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> In the United States, they \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> first came for us in Colorado... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*)

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Re: natural rights and the survaillence state
by VACCINIA＠UNCVX1.OIT.UNC.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In reality there is only one "natural right", one every human is born with. The right to die, granted they are attempting to take this right from people but haven't wholly succeeded yet. The rest of one's rights are granted by the state or self maintained (by any means neccesary). It seems we will soon be at this juncture. Scott G. Morham !The First, VACCINIA(a)uncvx1.oit.unc.edu! Second PGP Public Keys by Request ! and Third Levels ! of Information Storage and Retrieval !DNA, ! Biological Neural Nets, ! Cyberspace -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLXIBrD2paOMjHHAhAQE0EQP8CCKIFqfXAiM0TtBorlBpZRjNXRdofty7 sWXQnu3a1zcrKUVJDWs2C4ZwkOORFBuwwLpW6IZx1+MDcRZsRCSuahfw2Q099nUu YT49hhahd+F1vLXJgwxVfOOZO5UtbeLBwDksACOz9VovN0ZTZdtx7t73U7UUP9NY hgKw5QPZUVo= =pffM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: lists of U.S. cypherpunks and tentacles (fwd)
by rarachel＠prism.poly.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Dorothy Denning
by freeman＠MasPar.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Phil Karn says: > her technical credentials, whatever they may be, gives her no special > insight over the rest of us into the purely political issues here. Fascinating to think that Denning's technical and political credentials are approximately on a par with many of our own. I suppose we sound just as silly as she does, just as often... ;-) -- Jay Freeman

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CM:
by sdw＠meaddata.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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standard for stegonography?
by plaz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<Sorry this post was supposed to go to the whole list yesterday. I forgot to redirect to cypherpunks, oh well.> Derek Lynn Upham replies to Jef Poskanzer: >> Is there a standard for stego yet? I just added stego and de-stego >> filters to my pbmplus image toolkit, using a simple protocol I made >> up on the spot. Now I'm wondering if I should make them compatible >> with existing stego tools. > >There appear to be two existing steganography packages for images. >One is "jsteg", a Unix-based system which stores data in JFIF- >compliant JPEG images; it is based on version 4 of the cjpeg/djpeg >package. The other is "Stego", a Mac-based system which stores data >in Mac PICT files (I think---I don't have a Mac to examine it). > >"jsteg" is available in the Cypherpunks FTP archive in the >applications subdirectory as the original jpegsrc package, plus the >patches, plus a README file. However, you might be better off >tracking down the "Stego" sources since "jsteg" stores its data in a >rather odd way (see the docs for more information). > >Derek jsteg's stores it's data based on the compression algorithm and is tied tothe format (jpeg, which is a lossy compression format). Stego (which I contributed to and consulted on) actually has a relatively format independant way of storing the data in the picture. Stego was written by Romana Machado (romana(a)apple.com) Check out the article in the latest WIRED (p. 26?) and the soon to be released (any day now) bOING bOING. Quoted from the stego readme: >Stego rasterizes the image, then stegs data into the least >significant bit (or LSB) of each of the RGB color values. (In the >case of indexed color, Stego stegs data into the LSB of the index >values.) The file length of the data file to be stegged is hidden >in the LSB's of the first 32 steggable bytes. To disguise this >value somewhat, I take the second to least significant bits of the >second 32 steggable bytes and XOR these with the 32 bit file >length, and then steg the XOR'd file length into the LSB's of the >first 32 steggable bytes. Source isn't really necc., but if you feel you MUST have it: contact romana(a)apple.com.

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Re: ditz in office
by joshua geller 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

mike writes: >someone else writes: >>someone yet else writes: >> >now i wish i had not voted for the ditz in office. >> I wish everyone who voted either Republican or Democrat instead of >> Libertarian because they didn't want their vote to be wasted would take a >> moment to consider how their vote would have meant any less if they had >> voted for Andre Marrou and Nancy Lord in '92. >I'm still reasonably satisfied to have voted for Clinton. I don't think >any of this stuff would have been any different if any other candidate had >been elected. I second that, but I didn't vote for clinton, I voted against bush. I never (or very rarely) vote for anyone; I decide which candidate that is likely to win I dislike most and vote for whoever is likeliest to beat them. a vote for anyone else is usually a vote for the one I don't want to win. if clinton had been the one I disliked more than bush I would have voted for bush, not perot. if the republicans can manage to field someone I dislike less than clinton in 96, I will vote for them. with his attacks on privacy and the second amendment, my dislike for clinton goes up every day. josh

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Clipper and Entrapment!
by Jonathan Scott Mallin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perhaps mandatory encryption will be struck down by a court. It seems to me that if the government portrays this as a "safe" method of encryption criminals can make the claim that they would not have committed crimes if they didn't feel that their encryption was secure. Since the government promotes this false sense of security the government may in fact "create" additional crime. I am not saying that I believe this argument.. it is, however, one that can be made. _ __ __ _ _ _ _ | |___ _ _ | \/ |__ _| | (_)_ _ <*> Jonathan Scott Mallin | |_| / _ \ ' \ | |\/| / _` | | | | ' \ <*> <jmallin(a)umich.edu> \___/\___/_||_| |_| |_\__,_|_|_|_|_||_| <*> Email for PGP key -> This entire message is (C) 1994 by Jonathan Mallin. Reproduction is <- -> prohibited without express written consent. <-

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Re: ditz in office
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Why do you think that there would have been no difference? Do you not belive that Andre/Nancy (or any other Libertarian types) would *not* have taken a different stance towards: take your pick, but relevant to cypherpunks, about Clipper & the other surveillance plans? Blanc ---------- From: Mike Godwin <netmail!mnemonic(a)eff.org> To: <cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com> Cc: <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> Subject: Re: ditz in office Date: Monday, February 28, 1994 5:19PM > >now i wish i had not voted for the ditz in office. > > I wish everyone who voted either Republican or Democrat instead of > Libertarian because they didn't want their vote to be wasted would take a > moment to consider how their vote would have meant any less if they had > voted for Andre Marrou and Nancy Lord in '92. I'm still reasonably satisfied to have voted for Clinton. I don't think any of this stuff would have been any different if any other candidate had been elected. --Mike

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Anonymous Remailing Revisited
by Arthur Chandler 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is from RISKS Digest: ******************* Quoting from the Feb. 24 News-Gazette of Champaign-Urbana, Illinois: "UI student arrested for e-mail threat to Clinton" URBANA -- A University of Illinois student has been arrested for threatening the life of President Clinton, U.S. Attorney Frances Hulin announced today. Christopher James Reincke, 18, of Townsend Hall, Urbana, allegedly sent an electronic mail message to the White House on Dec. 4 threatening Clinton, Hulin stated in a press release. The message read: "I am curious, Bill, how would you feel about being the first president to be killed on the same day as his wife ... It would be best, I think, to not continue with your immediate plans. Perhaps a vacation. You will die soon. You can run, but you cannot hide." The message was signed "Overlord" and purported to be from "Allmighty(a)Never.Gonna.Catch.Me." Reincke appeared before U.S. District Judge Harold A. Baker in Danville today and was released on his own recognizance. Hulin said the charge resulted from an investigation by the Secret Service and the UI police. Investigators determined the message originated at the UI, and a computer trace identified Reincke as the apparent author, Hulin said. While being questioned by agents, Reincke admitted he had sent the message, according to the press release. ]

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